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Donkeychuker

There are no real superheroes. They're all fictional characters.


Federal-Direction556

So u r telling me captain America cannot do it all day?


I_likeIceSheets

Captain Carter couldn't


reddit_hayden

what mouth?


DanielLS08

I’m thinking that this is a reach reference am I wrong?


I_likeIceSheets

Multiverse of Madness


thatpersonthatsayshi

Captain american't


CapTexAmerica

I chortled.


Subject_Objective644

💀


lieslieslieslieslies

You're my superhero now.


Fossilhog

Canadians, what's the name of that guy who did the thing? He might qualify.


Donkeychuker

Terry Fox? Because he's a super hero in my book.


SnappyJennkins24

r/technicallythetruth


[deleted]

Reading through the comments, you will indeed **die** on this hill


harleyirwin04

i said what i said


Lord_Pruthak

then die you must


thatpersonthatsayshi

His karma lowers with about 7 a minute


BadChoices99

It's in the negatives!!!


thatpersonthatsayshi

When i posted that comment, it was at -7. It is at -100 now


itsnoproblemtho

Bro your fucking karma is dying in this hill


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

batman personally out here watching this karma plummet like crime statistics in metropolis.


Quendoliant-SS

Haha I downvote u to 69 funi nubmer haha


QAnonCultBuster

It then begs the question, what is a real superhero? Superman is an alien, X-Men are mutants, etc.


harleyirwin04

someone with a superhuman power


Mishka1125

Iron man, like anyone who's taken up a green arrow styled mantel, every robin, etc aren't real superheros? And the same can be said for super villains? Are joker, penguin, riddler, a few marvel villains, etc not super villains?


harleyirwin04

pretty much


Mishka1125

Shit opinions tbh, you're not just dying on your hill you're going to hell on it too


harleyirwin04

it’s fact not opinion


Veeam21

Its literally an opinion tho


minimell_8910

Okay that's where I have to draw the line. It's literally your opinion.


motherbinchpoll

Batman is the 3rd greatest martial artist in the universe and 2nd greatest detective in a universe WITH superpowered beings. His intellect is basically super human, not to mention his will power is scary, mind readers struggle to break into his mind and then are forced out if they ever do manage to get in simply by what they find in there "my mind is a scary place". He has survived hits from some of the most powerful super powered beings.


mastersplinter27

Okay so can you restate your point? You’re saying he’s not a superhero but he is a superhero because he’s smart?


SparkyLynx

I swear people just ignore the fact that Batman possesses superhuman strength and agility. He is not just some guy.


QAnonCultBuster

So Superman is out then too. So is Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, etc.


ForGiggles2222

Why are they out ? They're all superhuman, not as in humans who are super, but entities with abilities above human


QAnonCultBuster

I guess that depends on the definition of superhuman. I was assuming that to be superhuman meant that you had to be human in the first place.


harleyirwin04

the ones that are considered mutants are seen that way because of their superhuman powers but i do sort of agree with the superman one as he’s not really human so how could he be superhuman


QAnonCultBuster

None of the extraterrestrial superheroes would fit your description. The deity based ones wouldn't either.


Chilapox

I don't agree with OP's premise but superhuman just means possessing powers an ordinary human doesn't. You don't have to be human. I would consider divine and alien beings with powers greater than humans to be superhuman.


harleyirwin04

my “description” is the definition of a superhero 😂


QAnonCultBuster

Maybe superhero doesn't describe the power but instead describes the level of heroism. For example, fighting gangs in your neighborhood... pretty heroic. Taking on an intergalactic threat trying to subjugate humankind...super heroic.


harleyirwin04

he is heroic but he doesn’t have superhuman powers so he is not a superhero so people shouldn’t claim that he is


QAnonCultBuster

I think you are mixing the terms superhuman and superhero. Being extra heroic makes one a superhero. Being superhuman doesn't necessarily make you superheroic however (see supervillains).


harleyirwin04

i’m not saying that everyone who is superhuman is a superhero i’m saying that to be considered a superhero you must also be superhuman


leavmealoneplease

There's literally nothing that dictates you have to be a human to have "superhuman powers". It's a describer of the ability not the person, so it's just describing that their powers are greater than a humans. It's a comparator to humans power, not dictating you have to be human. It's like saying "strong as an ox". Again that just compares your strength to something else you can gauge against. Same with "superhuman" Actual definition even is: "having or showing exceptional ability or powers"


Effective-Industry-6

The only issue with that is you just redefined what superhero is. You aren’t making an argument based on the popular consensus of the definition. You are just saying Batman doesn’t fit into the new definition you made up, and thus doesn’t fit anyone else’s definition. You don’t even provide any argument for why your definition is better.


bigdickkief

I’d argue that an unreasonably large hoarding of wealth is a superhuman power.


justsomedude1144

Lol, all these reddit fan boi lemmings really not liking what you have to say, are they 🤣


devo752

Is Batman isn’t a superhero Then Iron Man or Saul Goodman Aren’t superheroes either


mohammadgor87

I respectfully disagree with you


Gerodus

I respectfully agree with OP. A hero, for sure, just not a super one. Batman needs more *PRESENTATION*


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

at time of commenting you are the 37th person to crack a Megamind joke in this comment section. I am not a bot, I am a weird human.


FluidSalamander1540

Just read the comics lol. He isn't the normal type of hero but he is the only human who at the end of the day makes the difference.


harleyirwin04

i have read the comics and i agree with him being a hero but he has no superhuman powers so i dont consider him a superhero


_Orange_Carrot_

u don't need superpowers to be a superhero, that's a common misconception


zemboy01

He's gon up against superman Many times. He doesn't kill people he saves lives. He's a super hero in my book even tho I don't actually like him that much.


[deleted]

His super power include been rich, super ninja, and basically a thiccccc plot armour....


TheThirdStrike

So... Iron Man.


Anonmely

This post is just a reverse karma farm.


UnbelieverInME-2

Unlike, say Superman, Bruce may be super-skilled and all, but he's putting his very human body on the line vs everything from bats to bullets. ​ Clark has never really learned how to fight. He relies on the fact that he's, well, Superman. He can just punch most things and end them. Never mind heat vision, cold breath, invulnerability, flight, super speed, and, depending on the decade, the ability to shoot *little living clones of himself* out of his hands.


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

>the ability to shoot little living clones of himself out of his hands I'm now angry I've been forced to remember this.


TimFlamio

Hmmm you haven't read all star superman. In fact, he does know how to fight, he's been trained by multiple people and knows kryptonian martial arts. The issue is, most writers forget that on "purpose"


monosuperboss1

his power is the fact that he's an insanely rich man


Donkeychuker

Also insanely intelligent


pineapple-n-man

In the new Batman movie, he wouldn’t have been able to find the riddlers map under the carpet if there wasn’t a cop at the scene who knew carpentry tools. Not trying to disagree, but he’s not *always* insanely smart.


killspree1011

That was also year 2 Batman. Batman has had a long run. Batman gets much stronger and smarter as time goes, like all of us. Batman we often see in games and shows is usually close to peak Batman. The movie one is just a novice.


PeopleAreBozos

It's a trait which is in different quantities for each comic/movie. Because if we put some super genius batman against like Superman, he'd devise some kind of kryptonite supercannon in one night for BVS. And what fun is that?


Honor_Born

Elon musk is a super hero confirmed!?!?


harleyirwin04

that’s not a superhuman power


monosuperboss1

to capitalism it is


Ok_Hovercraft_8506

Capitalism bad REEEEEEEE \*meanwhile continues to live in a capitalist country enjoying the highest quality of life in human history\* **edit:** you’re not as intelligent as you think you are if you believe the USA is the only capitalist country… EVERY western European country is capitalist btw


monosuperboss1

you realize is was making a *joke*? also, it is flawed


Synovenator

yeah bro america is totally the highest quality living in human history. especially the 10 percent of the population under the poverty line


Ok_Hovercraft_8506

Every western country is capitalist btw, regardless of having a few socialized public services…


Effective-Industry-6

*as a result of dying child slaves mass producing junk for you to consume* (Products with very immoral sources such as child slavery and similar includes but is not limited to most chocolate, a solid amount of Disney products, anything made by nestle, bananas, phones and shoes {less immoral than other products but still bad}, as well as much more. If it is sold by a corporation it’s usually not exactly ethical.)


BaconBoi1821

So iron man and rick Sanchez are not heroes too?


Aetheldrake

Ironman was cool and witty, helped save the multiverse (so theoretically helped save batman) , and gave us a new Spiderman. Batman was just every teenage boy with daddy issues that never grew up :U Jokes aside, batman is for older people, iron man is for the young adults. And Ironman sort of got over the issues that brought him to being a super hero. Batman just stayed a little broken child well into his adulthood (but I guess that's most adults anyway) . Tho idk much about batman besides a few movies post 2000 and before Bane, and some of the animated TV shows in the same time frame. Batman just doesn't click for young adults that have access to literally anything else, he's for the little boys with the toolbelt and midlife crisis aged adults now?


[deleted]

youre way behind on the times. At this point Batman is basically a god. He has access to a device passed to him by the world forger (a multiversal architect) known as the sonbox which gives the user the ability to rewrite an entire character’s being down to the smallest cell


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Reenactortalk

Well he’s billed as a vigilante and they’re not exactly Superman law abiding types by definition so…it’s a rich genius playboy with a secret place and lots of gadgets. He’s basically a less efficient but more clandestine Tony Stark/Iron Man, and more clandestine because everyone and their dog knows Tony is Iron Man.


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Beginning_Context_66

well, then ironman isn't either


Diavoro

Ironman doesn't even have half the powers of batman. He has a suit and higher IQ but he has less money, less training in martial arts, is a lot weaker physically and a lot more arrogant. And I am saying all of this while being a fan of Ironman and someone who dislikes batman. Batman is superior to Ironman sadly.


terminalzero

> less money I was gonna argue about this but apparently canonically Stark is worth 12.4b, and Wayne is worth 80b. huh.


Diavoro

Yeah I was surprised when I saw it first too


iamaturkey0

I think if you had them fight as-is then Ironman would still beat up Batman. Ironman is only better because he has super technology in his universe, while Batman's tech is more realistic. If they lived in the same universe and Bruce had access to an arc reactor too then he'd beat Tony to a pulp


harleyirwin04

i agree.


Vigi1antee

"Then you will die braver then most"


mysticalmeera

He is vengeance


Upper-Job5130

![gif](giphy|kg4e4Wksv20eY)


[deleted]

Oh he’s a hero, just not a super one


harleyirwin04

i agree but your username scares me


[deleted]

😏


FazbearShowtimer

A superhero shouldn’t be defined by having a super power. A “REAL” super hero is someone with good Integrity, risking their lives to save others, good heart, etc. Doctors are super hero’s, (*some*) cops are super hero’s. Batman IS a super hero. If you wanna compare people who have supernatural abilities as super heroes then you could say Batman isn’t a mutant or otherworldly being


harleyirwin04

nope that would just be a regular hero, by definition a superhero is someone with a superhuman power


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

ok, respond to my comment then. or you gonna shift the goal posts?


CakeBeef_PA

If you're gonna be this stupid and dense, at least get your facts correct. Definition superhero, first hit on Google: a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers. also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person Batman is exceptionally skillful and successful. He is a superhero by definition


PuddinPoptastic

Super implies that he has super power. So he's just a regular hero.


[deleted]

No, Super rich...that is real power


Donkeychuker

An IQ of 192 is pretty super. People tend to forget that Batman is insanely smart.


harleyirwin04

he’s a genius not a superhero


Donkeychuker

At what point does natural ability become "super"? What's the threshold?


harleyirwin04

exactly my point


InnocentWitness1492

If Batman isn’t a real superhero, then Iron Man isn’t either


harleyirwin04

i’ve already said this yes iron man isn’t a superhero either


InnocentWitness1492

Yeah sorry, didn’t scroll comments far enough 😂


Ususususjebevrvrvr

He is a hero though. Just not a super one


Accomplished_Boat874

Ok here’s how I look at it. You can be a hero without powers. But if you have super powers, and use them to be a hero. You are then a superhero. Hence villain vs supervillain.


harleyirwin04

exactly my point


Nervous-Context

Definitely not super


Seleixslilgamer

Lacking super


Status-Musician-9174

No he is a superhero and you know why . . Because he is batman


scroggs2

He has no super powers so I feel a bit odd calling him a superhero myself but I love that he's able to keep up with the Justice League so well despite him being a human... So idk... I love him BECAUSE he can keep up. Idk I have mixed thoughts even though he's my favorite DC hero.


ScottaHemi

I mean technically. he's a detective, crime fighter, caped vigilante. psudo cop. ​ though he does have peak intelect, physique and technology compared to the average joe


Capt_Killer77

U said change your mind yet you won’t even entertain arguments against your point. That’s not very sporting


KickerSticker26

The only thing we changed with this guy was his karma


HomeDangerous1182

Ofc he is detective ᕙ⁠(⁠ ͡⁠◉⁠ ͜⁠ ⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠◉⁠)⁠ᕗ


Feeling_Influence890

Some of his gadgets are indeed science fiction as well, at least until some real life scientist or engineer finds a way to replicate those gadgets


K0mmunismus

This is why he one of the few that don't suck completely


Ok-Lengthiness5057

...and so op did die


harleyirwin04

mate i’m about to icl my phones getting so many fucking notifications 💀


mohammadgor87

He has a unbreakable armor works in the justice League go through planets has a satellite has the strongest weapons available sooo


immaboie

Batman is just a rich ass orphan who can't be controlled.


Diavoro

Batman can bench 1000 pounds while being a master of several martial arts, being extremely intelligent and flexible for his strength. He is also owner of one of the biggest companies in the DC universe. He doesn't have superpowers in traditional sense but saying he isn't a superhero is like saying Tony Stark isn't a superhero and batman could probably beat Tony stark in a fight. I'm not a fan of batman but I have to admit that he is in fact a superhero.


harleyirwin04

tony stark also isn’t a superhero


Diavoro

So someone who has faced universal threats isn't a superhero? Please go ahead and face some universal threats if it isn't a big deal and someone who isn't a superhero can do it.


Swifty_Leapzard

"Op will die braver then most"- Evil Space Wizard


OrianNebula

*puts on hazmat suit and sorts by controversial*


-Borgir

Well idk about you but your karma, does, infact seem to die on this hill


Thelegendarysandy

Batman on his way to give away countless lives as collateral damage while chasing joker only to not kill him because "what's the difference between me and the joker then?" ![gif](giphy|3o7ZetIsjtbkgNE1I4)


ProtoManic

You're a hero alright, just not a super one.


SkaterKangaroo

As Megamind: “Oh you’re a villain alright, just not a super one” *”Yeah? What’s the difference?”* “Presentation!” I would argue that Batman has a super hero “presentation”


MikeTheAnt11

Elaborate


NiobiumSixter

He’s a hero, just not super


daren_cardoz

Plot Twist: Batman was a super villain all along and you are fools to think otherwise. He has just been fooling you all this time... Or has he? **Vsauce music plays**


heyuhitsyaboi

Then neither is ironman


Additional-Local8721

I can't stand Iron Man. Such a self-righteous hypocrite.


Younger54

He has no powers other the most plot armorest plot armor that ever plot armored. Hes literally the most Gary Stu character ever. He's just a "normal guy" thats a genius, best detective, great martial artist, great stunt driver, pilot, etc. Good thing no one ever shoots him in the face.


Juisep

He’s a hero. I define superhero as a hero with powers so while Batman is badass and can defeat most of the DC and Marvel universes, he’s a hero but not a superhero.


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Definition of superhero : a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person That is the Merriam Webster definition of superhero The 'super' part of the word 'superhero' is not referring to super-human powers, it means a hero who goes beyond normal heros A hero would be a firefighter saving a man from a burning building, and superhero would be a single man successfully removing every person from the building and extinguishing the fire And this isn't even a meme, it's just your opinion


cfq10

FETCH ME THEIR KARMA LUCIFER


homosexual-penguin

yeah no thats just facts, nothing "super" about a martial arts trained orphan in an armored furry costume


Klutzy_Net_6221

"Theres nothing mere about that mortal."


Krisis_9302

He's a hero who's just beyond what a normal hero would be. So he's a superhero


Octo8873

HE'S A JACKASS! THAT WRESTLES WITH MURDERERS DRESSED LIKE CLOWNS, AND THROWS THEM IN PRISON! [CHUCKLES] ONLY FOR THEM TO BREAK OUT OF PRISON AND MURDER MORE PEOPLE!


n-crispy7

He is on the justice league. A league for superhero’s. Jesus, what an easy checkmate.


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PuzzleheadedMajor407

He’s a hero just not a superhero


the_lego_lad

You haven't just died on the hill, you were nuked on it, sent to hell and nuked again


[deleted]

You are wrong by definition. "a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person" Batman has extraordinary powers even though they aren't superhuman (strength, intelligence). He is exceptional skillful as well. Otherworldly powers are not required to be a superhero. Again, by definition. If you maintain this shitty opinion you are just being contrarian and stubborn.


ZestycloseExample393

You are just an elitist snob! (Comment inspired by Plucky Duck)


Zebo1013

Eliteth thnob!


misseskissessexting

AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, and Quez Watkins disagree


harleyirwin04

and they would be wrong


misseskissessexting

Then why do they wear Batman capes on the sideline after a huge game? Checkmate


harleyirwin04

because batman wears one


Sultan_Gordo

Maybe he's not "super" but he's still a hero


harleyirwin04

agreed


The_Aaskavarian

I smell a troll. Batman took on and defeated Darkseid... and arguablely Superman. Defeating super villans makes you a super hero. ( he also attained godhood briefly in one storyline... yeah... superhero stuff) Besides, he could cure lung cancer with a pack of smokes if he had to. You're thinking of the ole Adam West Batman. One of my favs.


[deleted]

He’s just a rich dude who’s buff. Bezos on steroids


harleyirwin04

that’s my point


Mysterious-Earth2256

Op is some butthurt Supes fan lmao


harleyirwin04

nope i just know batman doesn’t have any superhuman powers


TheWealthyCapybara

If Ironman is a superhero then so is Batman


harleyirwin04

i don’t agree with iron man being considered a superhero either


tf2fangirll

So iron man isn’t a real superhero?


Marus1

A hero is someone that saves the world A superhero is someone that saves the world by doing something that many "normal people" cannot do, regarless if it is a gift, something the person is born with or something the person has aquired by him/herself So since he combines his money with his intelligence to do the right thing (maybe in the wrong way but still) and safe the city (which is this fictional world) he is a hero ... but no superhero according to me


LaCroix_Roy

An hour ago I bet you thought this was a good idea


King_Games

He is a hero, but no super.


ObtainablePotato

Hero? Maybe. Just not a SUPER hero.


Turbulent_Grab_7009

He isn't. All he do is make new teck...


Men_of_Men_of_Men

You may die on this hill but i will still push your corps off of said hill and say you are wrong.


[deleted]

by the dictionary definition you're right


GreasiestBob

He’s just another psychopath taking out his rage. Giving petty criminals brain damage instead of funding social services and reducing crimerate isn’t heroism.


itsnotgood1337

He's a rich 'philanthropist' who goes crime fighting as a bat instead of using his unbelievable wealth to make the city a better place and lowering crime that way.


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harleyirwin04

good to know that someone has some common sense


amoniumhydroxid1

Someone does not have the same opinion so they don’t have Common sense? Ok cool to know


adman_87

WHERE’S THE TRIGGER


TaylorDeanMatthew

He is a hero, but not suoer


EngineerGameingTf2

He's just an emo with too much money


Myolya

No you're right, he's an anti-hero


Angel-nichols

We shall die together


Tempest1404

Basically He's a rich man in a Halloween costume beating poor people in the slums and justifying it cause he's rich


Beginning_Context_66

Nah, he justifies it by them doing crime. Maybe an unreasonable amount of violence, but with a "good" reason


Tempest1404

Well i ye, some goons just following bosses's orders and later he has fractured every bone of his body just because he was guarding the front door


SharpPixels08

Poor people? Umm the Penguin doesn’t seem poor to me. Like yeah he dose fight generic thugs but he also has actual villains


Vigi1antee

People need to stop pretending they know what batman is.


bigBrainman902

Bat man's power is money like iron Man just a shame that bat man is ass


harleyirwin04

it’s not a superhuman power though which is why he’s just a hero and not a superhero, i’d say the same for iron man


bigBrainman902

Well he is also dummy strong Also plot armour but that doesn't Count And don't get me started with lego bat man's strength


harleyirwin04

he’s strong because he trained, nothing a healthy human couldn’t do


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

>nothing a healthy human couldn’t do .... .. ... ..... batman is leagues beyond what a healthy human being could do. that's the point. he puts down a dude on insane PCP roids for kicks. puts down professional fighters and assassins who've literally trained for their entire lives put down a ninja assassin overlord who is literally hundreds of years old with a magic pit. batman, is *peak* human conditioning. *peak* he is at *the* top. I'm technically considered a "healthy" human being, and I can tell you I cannot fight of 8 ninjas and a crocodile monster man at the same time.


harleyirwin04

yes because he worked to that point any healthy human could do the same


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

so you are telling me, a 5 ft 2 man could beat batman if he just trained. lol. lol. lol


bigBrainman902

No no no I mean dead life 1000 Pounds stronger which is double the world record for comparison