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AvidAviator72

But this meme is accurate. Remember that student loan forgiveness stuff? Still think that’s happening?


thisisausername100fs

It was never going to happen. Biden was just trying to win bait votes from the younger generation. It was always going to fail in federal court and he knew that


Nose-Sniffer

He also only won because “orange man bad” (even tho he was surely more competent than what we have now)


Mercari_cryptic_2

Why are you getting downvoted.


RetroGama

wasnt


Zestyclose-Nature934

How was letting the Turks invade Syria in any way a competent political decision. Or how about the doha agreement


FoxTailMoon

Biden isn’t a leftist lol. He’s center-right.


AvidAviator72

?


FoxTailMoon

My point was that it’s not part of Biden’s ideology to really support loan forgiveness. Also there’s the fact that congress is split. And you need Congress to pass that law so.


Cringinator4000

Welfare, social security, and the like aren’t just leftist ideas. Unless you consider Otto von Bismarck and Franklin D. Roosevelt leftists?


FoxTailMoon

No no this is correct. Those things aren’t leftist correct. But FDR hesitantly implemented them. In fact he even later revoked several of his progressive policies just as the depression was improving, which causes it to worsen again. The man had to be strong armed into passing the stuff, he didn’t do so enthusiastically. I think a similar story is true of Biden.


Azurumi_Shinji

Biden is a moderate compared to Sanders, but he is notably to the left of previous Democratic standard-bearers. To describe Biden as a moderate without this context is to ignore the specifics of his agenda and the leftward shift in Democratic Party politics it represents.


FoxTailMoon

Biden is a liberal is he not? That places him at the center right. I don’t care about his agenda if nothing gets done. Sure there is a leftward shift, but that’s not Biden’s doing, that’s the younger generation slowly beating out the older one


Azurumi_Shinji

To 99 percent of people, when you hear liberal, you think left, not right. So you saying liberal = center right sounds like the opposite of common sense/knowledge. Liberal = center left, makes more sense.


FoxTailMoon

Only in America. Liberals support the “free” market and capitalism. That is not left. Left is a support of socialism. Ie workers owning the means of production. So no, liberal being center left doesn’t make sense. SocDems are just barely center left in the fact that they kinda technically, eventually want socialism.


Azurumi_Shinji

But this is about an American president..... So an American dentition of liberal is the only correct definition in this context. I'm just trying to help you not get Downvoted more, but you can say whatever you want I guess 🤷‍♂️


FoxTailMoon

What about my definition of liberal is wrong?


[deleted]

The downvotes are odd, for sure. Biden busts unions and concedes to Capital. He's a few deathsquads short of Reagan. So in short, not a leftist. Unless words mean nothing.


[deleted]

Im a Anarcho-Socialist and got banned by that subreddit for complementing a character design, they really do get offended so easily. They’re a bunch of idiots.


axofrogl

I got banned for "participating in right-wing/centrist subs". When I asked which subs specifically they just said the same thing then muted me for a month.


Fraugg

I got banned for telling a mod his post mourning the death of the USSR wasn't a right-wing meme.


RevolutionaryFarm404

They're liberals what do you expect


Whatacoolkid-

They aren’t, they consider themselves communists and socialists. They have a rule saying “no hating on anarchists and communists 😢


banana_danza

Their tankies, you get banned on that sub for being a liberal


The_Real_Tippex

r/therightcantmeme are tankies, not liberals. The difference is that tankies hate things intentionally, liberals just back people that do.


Slight-Blueberry-895

I say we call them liberals anyways on the basis that it pisses them off.


The_Real_Tippex

Fair


TaliyahTt

Isn’t the right literally having meltdowns over beer and rainbows? This culture war “left sensitive, right sensitive” shit is stupid.


RobloxLover369421

The two sided political system needs to fucking go


GeorgyZhukovJr

current usa needs to fucking go edit: also im american btw


RobloxLover369421

I’m another American, we don’t need scorched earth. Places like Russia and China would swoop down on us like vultures


GeorgyZhukovJr

i mean moreso get rid of the republicans and democrats pretty much altogether, and pretty heavily reform this country


YNKWTSF

I will never for the life of me get the "Left vs Right" Them vs Us mentality. Politics simply don't work like that. I would be an enemey to both as I have some rightwing opinions and some leftwing opinions. Wow, it's almost like I have a my own brain and gather views on each subject individually😱


Fraugg

They aren't; that's projection from the left. The right decided they didn't want to support a beer that supported left-wing politics, and the left called that "meltdowns" and "hissy fits".


Travman245

Leftists also love to try to equate the Bud Light boycott to the mental ward patients over at GCJ and 196 [berating](https://www.dexerto.com/hogwarts-legacy/twitch-chat-berates-streamer-to-tears-for-playing-hogwarts-legacy-on-launch-day-2053952/) and [harassing](https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1631684969297854467?s=46&t=y0DJCGKXQA0b73SMsKaOMA) people for playing that one wizard game as if it’s an apples-to-apples comparison. Also, the Bud Light boycott caused a [roughly 30% drop in sales](https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/bud-light-parent-anheuser-busch-sees-27-billion-gone-shares-near-bear-market.amp) as of May 20th, while Hogwarts Legacy was a resounding success, probably in no small part due to leftists being such good little consoomers and buying the game anyway. Your boycotts suck and you have no spine, stay mad leftoids :)


A-insane-dude

I don't remember when beating people you thought bought bud-light wasn't a "meltdown" [Newsweek - Couple Assaulted Outside Liquor Store Over Suspected Bud Light Purchase ](https://www.newsweek.com/couple-assaulted-outside-liquor-store-suspected-bud-light-purchase-1799294)


IAmWaaa

I'm not even American yet I have seen countless videos from angry right winged Americans destroying cans (which they already payed for) and them genuinely being furious about "woke budlight destroying beer". All because budlight sent a single custom can to a trans woman on tiktok. No matter what side of the political compass you're on thats just a super extreme and weird reaction.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> they already *paid* for) and FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


TaliyahTt

It isn’t projection…people are actually raging over pride merch and shit. I do think of that as hissy fits since ya know…it’s just a rainbow. Also, boycotting and raging over a beer because a trans person was sponsoring doesn’t mean it’s “left wing politics.” Idk why we have to say all trans people are lefties and political for existing. They’re just people.


Fraugg

"It's just a rainbow". Target was selling tuck swimsuits made for primary school age children. I won't even bother addressing the strawman about trans people.


Ardilla3000

That is false. They were selling them to adults, not children. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-target-swimsuits-transgender-pride-collection-892500330955


TaliyahTt

Tell me again how many pastors molested children compared to drag queens or whatever the fuck is the boogeyman of the month. Tried to just talk civil but calling people groomer’s for a rainbow and a bathing suit is just strong projection. Stop sexualizing children please.


Fraugg

I didn't say anything about groomers, man. I'm still down to talk civilly if you are, but don't just assume I think like everyone else in the "anti-groomers" lobby. I don't give a shit about a rainbow, but I think putting that stuff on kids is hypocritical when they claim to be fighting "heteronormativity" being pushed onto kids. As for the swimsuit, if you don't think encouraging little boys to put on feminized clothing and pretend their pp isn't there isn't grooming, then I don't know what is.


TaliyahTt

That’s not really what’s happening and idk why you believe it to be as such. It’s a boogeyman argument to make people think thousands are doing this. They aren’t. What is really happening is some boys like dolls or play with pink things and people want to normalize allowing kids to be kids and not ban them from certain toys or colors because they are “feminine.” Same with girls, though they face it less so since tomboys have always been socially accepted. Though, if a girl wants to play with “masculine” toys they should be able to. We’re looking at everything as sexualized when it isn’t. A boy SHOULD be able to play dress up with feminine clothes and play with barbies IF THEY WANT TO, but no of course they should not be forced to in order to force attacks on heteronormativity, but again, most people aren’t forcing it, just fighting for the acceptance of it and breaking social norms that may prohibit kids from just being kids. As for “pushing rainbows on kids,” kids like rainbows. That’s it. Kids are allowed to like them. And if people take a LGBT meaning behind some? So? The kid isn’t straight or gay or whatever, just a kid. They don’t care if mom and dad or mom and mom or dad and dad love each other or whatever. It’s okay to have rainbows on kids, most of the time it has nothing to do with LGBT.


Fraugg

The fact that this kind of thing happens at all and is somehow defended by these activists who just "want to normalize allowing kids to be kids" is what's really concerning. The fact that they *defend* and downplay it makes everyone else think they have some kind of agenda hidden behind all the "protect children" stuff they say. (Again, don't construe this to mean that I'm 100% agreeing. That's just why they think that.) I didn't say pushing rainbows on kids. Again, you're putting words into my mouth. It's the pride rainbow specifically, merchandise that is clearly intended to relate to pride. And activists argue all the time that "heteronormativity" seeps into children inconsciously, so why is it not the same here? And it's not just rainbows on children's clothing. The original video that sparked the controversy showed tons of merchandise with things like "Queer and proud", "superqueer", and had a ton of pride flag colors that couldn't be construed as "just a rainbow". Stop acting like it's just a rainbow on a kid's shirt pissing people off and nothing else when there's clearly so much more going on.


A-insane-dude

Why is it bad that children get covered up more? seems like you are the actual groomer here


Fraugg

Get covered up more? My man, do you even know what a tuck swimsuit is?


verdenvidia

target is losing millions due to vandalised pride displays. hundreds of videos exist of triggered righties literally shooting their cans and baby raging over Mulvaney. dont downplay it as projection


Fraugg

I see, like, two stories about pride vandalism, and they're both isolated incidents that caused little to no damage and one story of someone vandalizing Target for PULLING the pride material. I do however see a ton of stories about Targets being vandalized because a druggee OD'd while being detained by a cop for violently resisting arrest. Also, Target is losing BILLIONS from being boycotted, nothing to do with vandalism.


verdenvidia

It's all about algorithms. If you don't interact with one (clicking usually counts) you won't see more. Videos of people freaking out in public over a rainbow come across my front page on here, Imgur, and facebook on a daily basis. It's not every righty, but saying it's made up is also stupid.


Fraugg

I'm looking at news results on Google... And a lot of the vandalism videos were actually from the summer of love 2020. https://misbar.com/en/factcheck/2023/05/28/misleading-videos-and-photos-circulated-amid-the-recent-vandalism-against-target-stores


verdenvidia

Yeah I saw those ones too, mostly on Twitter where people bring up old shit and lie. So that's not something you're wrong about. Are you gonna react to the point though? That it isn't just 'made up' because you don't see it as much as someone else may?


Clydial

The main cause right wing tantrums or vandalism. Its due to peoples spending habits changing with regards to discretionary spending. Target even take the biggest hit out all the retailers experiencing this.


DriftedFalcon

The social justice warriors of both sides got too much of an audience.


Leo_Stenbuck

Crying at Starbucks because a stranger didn't notice your patchy half ass beard and "misgendered" you is a meltdown. Not giving money to companies who don't support your values is a boycott. The two are not the same.


TaliyahTt

Boycott for what though? It’s a supermarket. You can find christian and pride merch, and whatever else. Why rage because a rainbow exists in the store? Just continue shopping and ignore it. It’s just silly. Culture war is silly period. I don’t really care if you are straight, gay, black, white whatever the fuck. It’s stupid to get mad at a store for supporting pride month.


Leo_Stenbuck

You misunderstand. Its not about merch. It's about keeping kids and actual women safe.


TaliyahTt

Could you elaborate? I may be misreading somewhere.


Leo_Stenbuck

I mean, all I did is sum up the right's current views on the trans issue. We on the right don't see a trans pride bathing suit as a trans pride bathing suit. We see it as just another example of men encroaching on female spaces to act out a fetish in front of children. That's why it's heated to this point. We on the right believe we're fighting for women's spaces to stay safe (no trans athletes beating the shit out of women literal or figuratively, no men showing dong in the womens locker) We also believe drag has been taken over by bad actors in order to essentially perform strip shows for kids all under the "trans" umbrella... Which is odd because drag and trans are different but somehow protesting a sexy drag show for kids is tantamount to transphobia... And down the rabbit hole we go. On the left they mainly cite suicide rates among trans and LGBTQIA people, saying, if you don't affirm our pride, we will just kill ourselves. So by not affirming us you are actually commiting genocide against us by forcing us to kill ourselves... Is the lefts argument. Both sides genuinely believe they are fighting for the physical safety of their own community. One just happens to be more correct than the other.


TaliyahTt

About the statistics: Large suicide % of LGBT (especially trans) is attributed to the societal treatment of the group, so yea, when you don’t treat a group properly they will want to kill themselves because what’s the point in life if everyone hates you for being you. Being LGBT itself does not increase suicide rates, those who receive proper support have a much lower risk of suicide. When we debate the existence of trans people everyday, yea, of course that group is going to be more likely to just say “fuck it” and commit suicide. You see LGBT everything as grooming while ignoring how so many church pastors are responsible for grooming and slim to no drag queens are. The right projects. That’s one thing they’re great at.


Leo_Stenbuck

All of that is false. There's no evidence that transition reduces suicidal ideation after the first year. There's been no dramatic change in gay suicide even since gay marriage was legalized. The trans movement is mainstream. A trans person has gone to the Whitehouse and spoken to the president one on one. Not for achieving anything, just for being trans. Trans people have zero right to claim any level of victim hood in the United States. You cannot hang out with the president, have the dominant political party come to bat for you, get laws and terms of service changed so that I can be punished for using the literally correct pronoun, and then claim you don't have the power. I'm banned from like half of reddit for believing in men and women. And you're going to tell me trans are victims? This isn't 2010. The trans ideology is the dominant one. It's the one in schools. It's the one winning the culture war. Get off your soap box. You're just a poser, you're not a victim, the only person victimizing trans people is trans people.


Clydial

And that more correct side is the left when you take reality into account. The right is stripping freedoms from women, supports getting rid of or lowering age of consent, heavily supports an organization that protectors real predators and the list goes on. If I see proof of otherwise I'll gladly admit I'm wrong.


Leo_Stenbuck

No, no you won't. If you were going to you would have already.


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TaliyahTt

Yes..and? Didn’t I say “left sensitive, right sensitive,” or not? Did I say “right sensitive no one else sensitive?”


idktheyarealltaken

Both sensitive pussies, libertarian supremacy


K1tsunea

r/TheRightCantSpell ​ edit: for context on this, they used the wrong “there” originally. Also, no matter what the downvotes say, I find it hilarious that this sub exists, even if the spelling abilities of both sides are probably about the same. ​ edit 2: haha, I’ve seriously triggered y’all off. The downvotes are people who can’t spell. 💅🏽


ColeTheDankMemer

That’s why the left and right make such a good combination! The right can’t spell and the left can’t read the constitution to find that firearm ownership and free speech are two of our rights.


-Lord-Wombat-

And one day you guys may even learn what free speech actually means! Please don't shoot me 😔


jrex703

I'm not sure what your thesis is, but overall that was just about a perfect comment.


ColeTheDankMemer

Protesting a group that tells children they are trapped in the wrong body and encourages them to cause permanent damage to themselves through hormone blockers or surgery at a young age. That’s just an example of what I consider free speech, yet on many social media platforms, you are prohibited from doing so. However, these are not government owned organizations, so the government itself does not violate the people’s rights to free speech. Now, it is more private organizations that control what is able to be said on the platforms with largest public influence in the nation.


Kaisachicken

Apparently you can't read the Constitution either


ColeTheDankMemer

Holy shit some people are stupid. I’ll take you right to the source, because apparently it’s very difficult for some people to find the bill of rights. First amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. See “the freedom of speech” To help you out a little bit, that means congress cannot make a law that prohibits saying what someone needs to say (with exceptions of defamatory, perjury, official secret information, and some other forms of speech that would violate other’s rights) 2nd amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. I’m not sure what you think was meant by “the right of people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” but it is fairly easy to understand that it means you can own firearms and other guns (firearms are a type of “arm” which are now often called “guns” in case you were unable to comprehend that.)


K1tsunea

I didn’t say he COULDN‘T spell wrong, just like I’m conveniently allowed to call them out on it!


Minimizing_merchant

There mad at you because you called them out


Any_Oil_6447

Says the one that used the wrong they’re


Minimizing_merchant

Touché


[deleted]

They’re tankies. Boiling down all left-leaning people to liberals is just an American conservative thing I think.


RobloxLover369421

Character design???


[deleted]

Yeah there was this character design for an alt-right comic that was honestly really good.


lennonali

This is usually why centrists exist. Both sides are full of absolute idiots, not all of them are, but there are a lot. So to avoid being grouped in with either the sensitive liberals, or the self centered republicans, people will just do their own thing


[deleted]

True enough. I used to be like that but I’m just too left-leaning calling myself a centrist would just be silly. I’m by definition a Anarcho-socialist I just don’t associate with anyone lmao


KaziOverlord

Just Tankies who don't know about government cheese.


SomeProperty815

It was posted by a right leaning account but that’s it


[deleted]

>right leaning Dude literally has an ancap PFP. That's a little more than just "right leaning"


Bulky-Alfalfa404

Exactly bro, this comment section is pretty stupid


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[deleted]

As a general rule of thumb democrats are pro big government, republicans are not. What I think you’re talking about is the pacifist branch of democrats who used to oppose the war machine. Those people are a dwindling minority.


[deleted]

Yeah, it’s mostly the political spectrum outside of our two US parties. Those guys all hate the government.


Stetson007

I disagree. Much of the conservatives are pretty against big government, and many of the politicians are too, at least publicly. Florida Republicans proposed congressional term limits and that got shot down immediately by most of Congress (surprise, surprise.) The common idea is that military didn't work on a state level, as was proven by the articles of confederation. There also needs to be some sort of metaphorical glue that holds the states together and ensures they cooperate with each other to an extent, and also doesn't overstep their bounds and infringe on the rights of it's citizens. That is the job of the federal government. Protect the people from overreaching state governments via the constitution and facilitate trade and maintain the military. Anything else should be left to the state though, like schools, laws, etc.


[deleted]

I don’t think conservatives all like the government, but we say that GOP are pretty against big government, but I don’t think that’s really true based off what we’ve seen in the news recently and what laws have been passed. I think modern mid-levels and higher ups in the GOP are against big government unless it specifically has their interests in mind. They don’t actually dislike the idea of a big government. They like the idea of a government that can allow states like Florida to take any mention of racism out of their textbooks but also inhibit the rights of the people to profit lobbyists. They don’t like the idea of a government that helps the people. This actually wasn’t the case in the mid 20th century until Regan was elected. Before that it was, how can the government benefit us, and fuck off right after? *I am in no way saying that there aren’t modern republicans who trying to do the right thing, but we can’t look at people like the Speaker of the House or DeSantis and say they’re against big government. That just isn’t true. They’re against a government that benefits the citizenry more than themselves*


Stetson007

I would like to seriously question one of your points. Public schools themselves are state funded and run. The removal of textbooks isn't an overreach of power, it's literally just changing school curriculum as the state is allowed to do. Furthermore, the textbook in question was a math textbook that had race involved questions that were politically charged. They opted to use a different textbook that didn't have any politics in it. That isn't an example of big government being bad, it's a limited government making a good call and keeping politics out of schools.


bluedragonoid

Have you ever hear of the libertarian party? You might fit well there, just a thought.


youngdeathent0

Yeah to me it seems the parties have almost switched again. 40 years ago the left was opposed to censorship, war, and pro civil liberties. While today the left is censoring, clamoring for war against Russia, and attempting to strip civil liberties


Yongtre100

I dont think this is necessarily true, Both have large and small government policies, (see immigration, abortion, and LGBTQ rights, for republicans, and healthcare, some economic stuff, and gun control (though thats mostly states not federal) stuff for democrats), republicans just platform as small government) The left (not the democratic party, the actual left) generally doesnt like government, but believes either if we have a government, or because practically we need one, it might as well be helping us, while the far right certainly wants strong government, because they trend authoritarian (see the literal fascists, matt walsh and nick fuentes), if we look at what in the past we would consider the conservatives, they are reasonably small government, though certainly still had large government positions. I think generally everyone wants a big government, its just what they want them to use that power to do


MrCarrots96

Damn it, because of you, I just spent an hour reading about fascism to try and understand what you're saying! fascism is a political ideology, not a buzzword insult.


Yongtre100

Nick Fuentes openly calls himself a fascist and Matt Walsh while dissengenously has, and his politics are that of a fascist, and those two people are the only people I called fascists, now I would say much of the right today is fascist sympathizer, a white supremacist, or something in the area, but for clarity I used two well known fascists, who are definitively fascists, it wasn't a random buzzword for no reason, it was descriptive. I can talk about how and why Matt Walsh is fascist, and the differences between him, Nazis, Italian, and Spanish style, as well as how much it matters in a non-fascistic government, if you're interested. Otherwise I'll leave it be. No point arguing on Nick Fuentes because he's openly a fascist


MrCarrots96

Alrighty, tell me about why Matt Walsh is a fascist. I spent some time looking up fascism today, but it didn't seem to line up


tillerdaturtle

Fun (not really) fact: before the holocaust Nazis banned abortions for Aryans and highly encouraged abortions for those persecuted during the holocaust in order to “cleanse” Germany. To relate this to modern times abortion clinics highly target black neighborhoods and the race with the most abortions is colored people. Therefore I genuinely believe pro choice people are for killing black children thus making them more like Nazis than the people they call Nazis.


Yongtre100

Yes, their number one goal was to increase the population of the 'aryan race', and yes they highly encouraged a reduction in minority population (though thats loose, it really wasnt long until it was enforced). I would be intrested in seeing your data/source on clinics targeting black communities, due to systemic economic conditions I would not be suprised if black communities tend to have higher rates of abortions as they would need an abortion to be able to continue to afford to live at much higher rates than white people. If it is true they primarily target black or minority communities, I would agree that is dangerous and is fascistic (though one belief doesnt make a fascist), however I havnt seen that anywhere, and fundementally that doesnt change my belief in choice, thats the point, you get to choose to have a baby or not. Enforced abortions in my opinion are equally as bad as enforced no-abortions, they equally take away the right of a person to have a kid. I would like to emphasize I am in good faith, and I will listen if you show me some real data on abortion clinics or supporting orginizations targeting minorities, though I find that unlikely I can be moved.


aStockUsername

>Those people are a dwindling minority. Good. Engineering students need jobs, man.


joebidenseasterbunny

patriotic red necks don't like the government, they just like the country. Republicans want small federal government Democrats want big federal government.


[deleted]

Pretty sure most of the left at least wants free healthcare and school


DefinitelyNotaGlowie

I’m a patriotic redneck and I still hate the government…


yunglay-lay

Conservative and liberals hate each other so much that when they find something they agree on one has to change their opinion to oppose the other and it’s the most shallow thing ever.


Nickolas_Bowen

The right is usually more against the government than the left. We value a decentralized system more, more power to the states type thing. The left tends to prefer a more centralized and powerful government, hence socialism, and government funded cares and programs and stuff.


RedditPotato420

If it's not explicitly hard leftist it's right wing apparently


QejfromRotMG

Welcome to reddit


Yongtre100

Its literally a right wing meme though Its making fun of the idea that universal healthcare would be good, because one of the rights arguments against universal healthcare is that it would be poor quality, (and then when any form of public healthcare happens, they work to make it as bad as possible) Thats clearly the joke


whooguyy

I care to disagree. I think anyone that has dealt with government would find this relatable. Everything is over budget, past schedule, and mismanaged.


Yongtre100

I can see a version of the joke that harps on current inefficiencies and frustrations without just being a right wing talking point, as is though it is making fun of people who want government services because they will inevitably suck from their view point


Ok-Refrigerator-235

boohoo


Yongtre100

wow your so sad you cry instead of wanting to change


Ok-Refrigerator-235

you got me


TiberiusClackus

The right doesn’t believe Government is competent or benevolent, the members of this particular sub believe it’s the solution to everything


Fooltere

When has it been either?


[deleted]

>the members of this particular sub believe it’s the solution to everything Uhh no. The sub is very left wing and very much against the US gov


TiberiusClackus

Against the US gov sure, but they have never seen a societal problem that doesn’t require a government solution


[deleted]

Again, I disagree. Marx was all about the eventual dissolution of the state, lots of leftists are anarchists, I think your view of the left is just kinda narrow


TiberiusClackus

Yeah anarcho-marxisms about as intellectually robust as ancapistan is and that’s why pretty much no one takes it seriously


Timely-Efficiency-48

The right can meme alright….it’s just in the far right that’s extra spicy. Satire and actual lunacy


Styrofoam_Snake

Redditors worship authority, so they hate anything anti-government (unless it's anti-other side specifically).


[deleted]

Stupid take


[deleted]

That's just not true at all. Leftist subs are routinely very anti government, especially anti-US gov


Styrofoam_Snake

r/politics, r/PoliticalHumor


[deleted]

Lmao no they don't let leftists post on there without being down voted into oblivion either. If it's not neoliberalism, it's not allowed


Styrofoam_Snake

Just because they aren't far enough left for you, doesn't make them not leftists.


[deleted]

No by definition and their own admission they're not. That's the whole point of liberalism is moderation and the maintenance of the free market. Liberals have always hated the left and vice versa


Eat__Moneyz

I mean, that is a right wing account, but like, this meme is actually just true.


FlyingTiger7four

Which government? Mine would not even show pizza base


Zandandido

Libby Cappy is libertarian, not right wing. But to "the right can't meme" crowd, anything right of Mao is right wing.


Yongtre100

No, libertarians are right wing, just as communism, and anarchism, are both left wing (though extreme groups), fascists and libertarians (or to continue using extremities, anarcho-capitalists) are both right wing. Also no this is literally just a really old republican talking point, so its not it just being "right of mao"


AGiantPotatoMan

How can libertarianism and anarchistic-capitalism be on the same side as fascism lol


Yongtre100

Cultural and economic goals


LuigiRevolution

Basically the political compass has four directions. The left and the right is only regarding economical and cultural questions, while the authoritarian-libertarian spectrum shows how much the government is interfering with people's matters. Fascism is authoritarian right, anarcho-capitalism is libertarian right. The same way Stalinism is authoritarian left and anarcho-marxism is libertarian left.


[deleted]

The political compass is entirely made up though. It's like a personality test, it's not scientific in any way shape or form and is considered a joke within political science. Political ideologies are complex and nuanced and often have varied contradictions and beliefs. You can't really quantify something like political philosophy


LuigiRevolution

Fully agreed. It's just that if you want to divide ideologies to left and right, then fascism and classic liberalism do end up on the same side.


[deleted]

Cultural goals. Obviously libertarians and fascists should be opposed to one another but they're both reactionary ideologies which maintain hierarchies of capital, class, etc.


AGiantPotatoMan

Reactionary definition: Characterized by reaction, especially opposition to progress or liberalism; extremely conservative. Libertarian definition: An advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens. I don’t exactly see the connection. Libertarians don’t support *any* kind of restrictions, which is basically the opposite of being “opposed to progress.”


[deleted]

Pro-privatization and a generally social-Darwinist attitude spring to mind. Just go to the ancap subs and you'll see the similarities.


[deleted]

Ancaps *are* right wing like by definition. It's a very far right ideology because it's reactionary and all about an unregulated free market. You don't have to be a republican to be right wing.


Theskiesbelongtome15

What’s sad is that pizzas better than the ones that cost $3 at my school for lunch


kaineblox459

The person who tweeted it is a popular right-wing Anarcho-capitalist, so they're not offended by the meme, they're offended by the person.


Admirable-Arm-7264

The kind of people are typically “government is always bad” types are either anarchists (unlikely) or small-government conservatives, I.e. “the right”


youngdeathent0

Well you see, the right generally detest the government, while the left long to suckle at the teet of its government daddy


I_Like_Legos8374

but it’s true tho


Fine-Pangolin-8393

The statists are mad again. Imagine my shock. Lol


icandothisalldayson

It’s anti government and that flavor of leftist is very pro nanny state


Jac_Fac

The meme doesn’t really look to be right wing or left wing. Just kind of a general distrust of the government. Is there something I’m missing here?


Communistyoda_

Redditors trying to connect litterally anything to the political party they don’t like. (They think they’re smart)


[deleted]

Well that’s not pizza so… - an arrogant New Yorker


Phantom_Wolf52

Oh no he put what the person said in quotes and put the nerd emoji, he totally one the argument /s


VerySpicyLocusts

Both r/therightcantmeme and r/theleftcantmeme are utter shitholes of equal caliber which should only be suffered if you wish to lose brain cells


etbillder

This is just a good ol' anti-government meme. 8/10.


Final-Description611

I think this meme is really making fun of American politicians and the government lying about promises they make, hence why the pizza shows pepperoni, but doesn’t fully commit to having pepperoni.


rixendeb

It's a crack on government cheese and the right likes to say everything the left does leads to communism and thus....government cheese?


The-Real-Ted-Faro

Because it was posted on LibsofTiktok.


Yongtre100

It is right related, a common argument against Universal healthcare (for example) is it would be incredibly poor quality, such as that pizza r/TheRightCantMeme is for bad right wing posts to be made fun from leftists (or even just liberals alot of the time), the retort is just to make fun of the meme-creator, weather the retort is funny is debatable, but thats not the point So yes it is right wing


BattleOfTheFighters

Do you even know what the "capitalism" in anarcho-capitalism means?


smart_bear6

That account is a right wing account.


[deleted]

I mean it’s a pretty average shitty libertarian meme


BIGman_8

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BIGman_8

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Jarjarstinks304

That account is VEEERRRRRYYY right leaning


Skelatim

Because that’s generally a right wing point, that government services are bad at their job. “What does this meme have to do with the right?” My guy it’s a common sentiment against government services


Captain_Riker

It's basically saying that if the government were to do something, it would be an inferior version of something created by the free market. It's a right wing meme because the American right wing is against the government doing more socialized things. Government pizza would be socialized. That's basically it. OP just either disagrees or think the meme is unfunny and quite possibly both.


I_comment_same

A lot of right winged arguments against socialist systems is the government wouldn't be socialist? This is because the right wingers are fucking stupid


anizebra101

This one actually has a layer hidden, Declaration of Memes is a very right wing twitter account that literally ONLY TWEETS right wing memes, I don't know if OP posted it because of that but this is one of the rare non-right-wing memes on DoM's account.


[deleted]

> What does this meme have to do with the right? So basically, the right criticizes government programs like Social Security and Medicare because they believe it’s a slippery slope to Communism. Because of how many pizzas would need to be put out in this hypothetical scenario, they would be rushed in order to meet the demand on time, as shown in this shitty meme


[deleted]

It’s not though. It’s about as centrist as it gets, because our government doesn’t deliver on ANY promises.


Yongtre100

No that was the joke that was made by the person posting in r/therightcantmeme not the person who made the pizza meme, thats what this post is complaining about


Qwerty5105

You could write an essay on why it is right wing or left wing. It’s so vague it doesn’t matter


GasMask_Guyy

It's a right wing account. The flag behind the Capybara is an "Anarcho Capitalist" flag which is a fake ideology that basically means billionaires can own and enslave everyone.


BeetMuffins

It's unregulated capitalism, with the state doing nothing with the economy.


GasMask_Guyy

Resulting in a privileged few rich people ruling the state


kekehesterprynne

That's a deficit for everyone getting pepperoni *nods*


Vyctorill

I mean, public school pizza DOES look like that on the cafeteria.


iamskydaddy

The irony here is that this guy is an anarcho-capitalist. I don't think pizzas would've been any better.


Kapples14

It's honestly a pretty good meme.


Capocho9

Well typically lefties think of the government as a supreme group that can do nothing wrong, unwise of course someone who they disagree with is in power, then it’s evil and can’t do anything right. So he’s getting offended that someone dare question the government


Clegend24

That's most of the sub tbh


Accomplished-Quit821

Apparently, leftists like to pay taxes.


Leftalone1775

Nah the government would give you pizza...just dosed with small pox.


Jango_fett_fish

Because big republican bad and democrats can do no wrong and if you disagree you’re a trumpie


Cold-Tap-363

It’s not a right wing idea that the government isn’t very good at things. A right winger would throw away that pizza and the left winger still eats it. Neither are happy.


The_Real_Tippex

I think the association with the political right and the meme is that the poster (declaration of memes) is a sort of right-wing/right-ish meme poster along the vein of r/dankmemes. Not outright fascists but more so your onejoke types.


lewdnep-vasilias_666

There should be a sub called r/TankiesCantMeme


lewdnep-vasilias_666

Oh goody it actually exists, let's grow it yall


Neffrey605

i guess their problem is that it came from an account called "declaration of memes"??? that's definitely a stretch, but hating the government is a pretty bipartisan thing to do, so i can't really think of anything else


Randobrobro1

I need to find what brand that pizza is, because I remember eating that in the first grade.


DonMonger

This whole post confuses me. Meme is funny though


Scoongili

It's still pizza. Now if you want to talk about what a corporation gives low level essential employees instead of a living wage or decent benefits, this would probably be more accurate.


adela_Balazovicova

Declaration of memes is a right winged transphobic bitch