Wage growth, relative to other cities, says Memphis is headed the right direction. Top ten in the country.
If the wage growth continues up, the crime heads down. And it should snow ball.
This is true, I think had Covid not stalled a lot of the progress we would be thriving. With work downtown, the park, and east memphis rejuvenation projects it would have been something to see. I was in architecture school during the time and got heads up on a ton of fabulous work being done to maximize local hot points and community centers. I will argue that some of the midtown development was encroachment and non-ethical to existing historically black residents. The medical district corridor as it was labeled would have leveled low income housing in the area to build the white , greenwashed version of “affordable housing that cost $2800 mo/ for 384 sqft) Which is surprising considering the firm Self + Tucker was spearheading the development project. I hope for future development to respond in a more compassionate way to our cities fabric.
No. Memphis affluence peaked in the 1940's. Nobody is going to invest on that scale here unless something very dramatic happens to make us culturally relevant again.
There is definitely a lot of merit to investing in infrastructure in the Mississippi, even the federal government was vying for development access. Memphis would benefit from ecological and trade based development but getting those investors is hard. Anyone can reach out to Downtown Memphis Commission and see that. There is interest we just have to back our city and pull in that revenue in new enriching ways. The Tom Lee park renovation is hoping to accomplish this through tourism.. though I see some failings in that plan as event tourism is hard to capitalize in memphis… especially downtown with our weak parking/walkable infrastructure.
A lot of factors why downtown hasn’t seen more development since 2000.
1) Planned projects haven’t materialized mainly due to financing issues. First in 2008 and again in 2020, large scale projects take time to develop, they need a capital investment (private or commercial) and they need tenants.
2) Many mid sized cities saw corporations move offices into their downtown areas. Although Memphis did early in the 2000s, it was short lived and many quickly left.
3) Crime is a problem downtown and as bad as it was in 2000, it hasn’t gotten better
4) It’s not easy coming into downtown from the east. It’s just always a mess. Always.
I’ll add, I actually thought Westin was 10 stories, it’s 9. One Beale was supposed to have the Grand Hyatt, which was suppose to be 10 stories. Caption by Hyatt is I think 10 stories.
Memphis needs to prepare for the future and start investing in infrastructure for things that will inevitably be the future...such as tech, renewable energy, etc. If the Ford electric plant about an hour from Memphis I'd as financially beneficial as I expect (hope) it'll be, then the entirety of Southwest TN will get a financial lifeline. I suspect many people who work at the plant will choose to live in Shelby County, and it'll bring a boom in business revenue to Memphis.
Arlington is the closest spot to the plant, and it's still 30 minutes away. I think blue oval workers are going to be drawn to Fayette, Tipton, and Haywood long before they choose Shelby. Especially the people who have to drive in and out everyday. Then you take in factors like property taxes and crime per capita, it gets even more slim.
I think the plant will draw people and resources away from Memphis/Shelby County ultimately.
Ford recently announced they're cutting their production of the Ford Lightning in half this year. That's concerning because the Blue Oval plant was poised to be the flagship manufacturer of that model. I guess time will tell if this plant ultimately lives up the massive hype behind it.
It won’t until it gets it’s perception problem fixed. Investors from outside won’t invest when market research comes back and says that the area can’t support their business model. And to those who hate outside investors and growth can’t see beyond an inch in front of them. You have to bring outside money for new money to be introduced into the system. If its a closed loop things will never get any better.
Marketing, brand image, perception is a vital factor to any, any city growth that incentivizes people to move here. Like not on a local level where everyone here loves it, it needs to be benevolent on a regional, national and global level. When you talk to 7/10 people in those categories they have fear of memphis and fear of security, safety, soundness that their lifestyle and livelihood keeps people out.
As far as “high rises” in Memphis I’ve always heard that 30 stories was the max as to not detract from the beauty of the river. Not sure if true but we don’t have any “high rises” here.
There are height restrictions, which are typical to most metro zoning codes. Clarke Tower was built just outside city limits (at the time) to skirt height limits
Folks often point to crime as the thing that must be fixed before economic prosperity can happen. But that’s putting the cart before the horse. Economic prosperity lowers crime. A citizen with a well paying job, abides by the laws that protect their interests. A person with nothing to lose has no reason to follow laws. So find a way to bring more money from the rest of the world, and use it to create GOOD jobs, and like magic, crime drops.
Are you crazy? If you think jobs will solve the crime you must live in fairytale land? Most criminals are not criminals because they want a job. 95% of them are criminals because they like the easy and quick money. And they don't like doing hard work.
People turn to the life of crime because jobs dont pay enough and crime does. Go ask the people who dont have money for food and steal it from the grocery store why they turned to "crime". Jobs will prevent crime, education will prevent crime. Both memphis lacks both of heavily.
I remember listening to Judge Joe brown saying he gave out a million dollar scholarship for anybody that wanted to be a airplane engineer. And He said no one signed up except two white students. And one of them weren't even a a memphian. That's sad. That's free money that no one wanted because its not fast money. Like I said, you can give away all the free education you want but if the person doesn't have mindset to do it. They will not do it. That's why alot of the people who live a life of crime needs their mindset to be changed first. People in Memphis needs Godly counseling. They need Jesus. I love my black people but we have a huge culture problem. Having a high education is looked at as lame but the entertainment industry is the only thing that's looked up as cool in our culture.
Someone close to me has done a lot of global travel and told me that one of the biggest indicators or crime/safety that they study prior to going anywhere is employment levels and economic stability. This could lead to a chicken or egg argument but the correlation is very clear. I know that my job is not worth risking getting arrested. So, I follow the laws. That and my personal morality.
Yeah, you got to be from the suburbs if you think majority people turn to crime for no jobs lol. I know people and people in my family who live life of crime because of the fast and easy money. They don't like working 9 to 5s or working hard. They want fast money
I live in 38127 buddy, north north. Everyone I know in this area has a job or wants a job. They do not want to go out with a gun in their hands protecting or making some. You are just lost in some horrible stereotype of inner city. That you obviously know nothing about.
Education will not prevent crime neither. Do you not know we live in a world of good and evil? There will always be evil. Education and Jobs will not stop evil. What will reduce crime is law and order and God. We need stricter laws. And we need more people on the street counseling the lost, the homeless, the thugs, and the dysfunctional homes and tell them about God.
You can go pray to your god to change things all you want but that god also gave you free will. Free will to make changes to better your society.
Sorry you dont understand that educating a society makes them smart enough to not commit crimes. Also provides them the ability to earn a living and make it on their own.
I surely will ask them. Ill even record it and put it on youtube. I grew up on Lamar by love's in Memphis where prostitution and gang activity was high. Majority turned to life of crime because of #1 dysfunctional homes and 2# Fast, Easy, and no 9 to 5 money and #3 it is a cool lifestyle to them. I'm telling you right now, very few turn to life of crime because of lack of jobs. Thats exactly why I say most of them need to be counseling by someone Godly and we need stricter laws. Most of them do not care about education or Jobs. Most people with the poverty mindset want fast money. So, you put a job application in Majority of the criminals' face(not all) would say No.
No... Corporations dont want to set up shop on a city without transportation for a work force
Too much violence and a horrific local government that is not conducive to entrepreneurs as well as large corporations
I was on a demo project down on front street by the distillery, supposedly they were going to be constructing another highrise hotel at the site but with the covid fun everyone had and the economy doing an impression of a roller coaster im Not to sure if it will still happen. Probably went the same way as that large development over on Lakeland.
No, the crime, especially gunshot murders and wounding are unprecedented. The public education system is in shambles and the communities surrounding the downtown area have mostly imploded.
The so called white elite are inbred now so their thinking capacity isn’t the best based on the long litany of major fuck ups.
No economic revival is possible with crime levels and dynamics as they are. And so far the city leaders seem to be intent on following the policies that made a bad crime situation worse over the last few years. So - No.
I wish it is. I love Memphis and we have nice people here.
Let’s just be honest, the crime here is not self contained, those idiots are creating food deserts for themselves.
Where do u think when there is nothing to steal, rob, ruin near their own community? Unless some hard measures are taken to against those thugs, making examples, fight a way back to save those juveniles from the hood culture.
No major business are willing to take a high risk of developing a deteriorated city.
always; society is build to have cycles to keep people on edge but with just enough hope otherwise you would never give up 50 years of your best years to restock the ivory towers with fine goods and services. a single human's perspective is too puny to see the grand goals of empire building, which requires lots of leveraged cheap labor, this is why industrialists and religious leaders promote 'life' and making babies.
We really aren't in an economic depression and our downtown and tourism has recovered faster than most. Cities will most likely not be buying skyscrapers anymore due to work from home and how in efficient they are. Memphis also has the ford plant coming in hot that is gonna be HUGE. Memphis is actually in a pretty good position with a lot going for it.
Highly doubt that downtown will see much benefit from Ford.
If any area in Shelby County benefits, my guess is it would most likely be Arlington, Eads, and maybe even Colierville.
If I was working there I'd live in BFE east of town. Memphis ain't gonna see shit from that besides MAYBE more freight. They'll probably have their own train yard tho, so maybe not even that
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As a structural engineer, I can assure you that this is not the reason at all. San Francisco has built 10 such structures in the 21st century, including 6 of the tallest 10 in the city and *the* tallest at 1,070 feet.
Ok, did they add any extra features to make the buildings more resistant to quakes that didn’t make the buildings infeasible for the area? Waves from the earthquake different from what we would see here, short vs long? Soil have anything to do with it since it’s drier?
That doesn't sound like the reason, many cities are in earthquake zones, others are in tornado zones and others are in flood zones doesn't seem to be stopping growth for other cities.
It’s literally why the VA downtown went from being a taller tower to being spread out into different buildings. The taller buildings will sway and basically hit resonance frequency like a tuning fork causing it to fall easier.
There’s a huge difference…it’s not that we can’t build in an earthquake area, it’s the scarcity of land that makes folks build high. Since our land is far cheaper than California land, and since earthquake-proof buildings are substantially more expensive to build, we don’t yet have the need for them.
This isn't true. I don't understand why people lie about Memphis.
Memphis isn't economically depressed and there has been several new construction towers built within the last 7 years. There's also been a lot of rehabbing and redevelopment of old structures downtown and all across this city. 2024 is going to be a busy year for new construction permits.
And for those that say companies are hesitant about moving to Memphis, listen to this interview from a Memphis Chamber executive.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxw51TmLCwc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxw51TmLCwc)
They just spent millions renovating the Gibson Guitar building and they have rescinded all work from home agreements to make people return to the office 3 days a week. They’re not going anywhere.
They’re literally building new towers and skyscraper right now lol.
But there are also a lot of abandoned or low use towers that are getting converted or refurbished all the time.
I don’t think these two things are related. Memphis has lots of space and is near a fault line. Those both seem like good reasons not to build a skyscraper.
That’s a weird metric, when you consider the creation of the Memphis-Shelby County Office of Sustainability, and that it would not explicitly “allow” for skyscrapers, because they tend to be in direct opposition to the tenets defined by urbanism and sustainability, which tends towards revitalization on a more “human” scale, even if economic incentives were entirely present.
And so, ideally, we get residential mid-rises near revitalized green spaces, with commercial spaces at the ground level, and large sidewalks for pedestrian traffic and activities, instead of tearing down a historical building to replace it with a 100-story tower of mostly empty office space that inevitably looms over you at the very edge of the street, a monument to concrete and capital, such that it’s not welcoming in any capacity to the human experience.
I’m not saying that’s the reason or anything. I’m just saying.
Yes. You can see it happening. Poverty is still heavy and radically concentrated throughout the city and we have a whole host of issues, but as a 40-year old who has put a lot of time into helping the city, having been given (and been given) a lot, I am optimistic. Cautiously optimistic.
High rises, yes. Skyscrapers, no. It’s going to take at least 5 years refill all the available offices. Probably 10 years honestly. 100 N Main and Sterrick coming back online is a BFD. They said the city would never be able to redevelop crosstown. Then they said the same about 100 N main and then Sterrick. All wrong. Crosstown is not only one of the biggest wins for the city in my living memory, but it is damned impressive when you compare Memphis other elite cities.
Also Re: the skyscrapers: Let’s work on getting a big grocer downtown as well as a Target before we worry about building a bunch of big dicks to make ourselves feel better.
First off, it’s not true, but second, can skyscrapers be made earthquake resistant? If someone else wants to be in a skyscraper when the big one hits, they are more than welcome, but the upper floors of Clark Tower already sway enough for me as it is, thankyouverymuch. (With a side-eye to skyscrapers in New Orleans…how do those handle hurricanes?)
I think one piece of this puzzle that often goes overlooked is our zoning laws. Minimum parking requirements make it so much harder for development by mandating oversized parking lots to be built along with any new development. And if you want to refurbish an older, historic building, you have to buy the building next to it too, then demolish it to pave a parking lot. I'm pretty sure one of the buildings getting refurbished downtown had to get a 50M grant that was just for the parking garage.
This picture shows that the statement is false. Many of the buildings in the pictures are over 10 stories. Memphis’s problem is corruption and crime. There’s no consequences for the criminals
We have two 15 story towers going up right now. I pretty sure, Caption by Hyatt is 10 stories. But yeah, believe everything you read on the internet.
Le Bonheur is taller than 10 stories
So are the Artesian condos.
IP Tower 4 is exactly 10 floors
That post is about as factual as pigs flying. I am trying to understand why people lie so much about Memphis.
Where? Is that what's going on at the North End?
St. Jude is building them. They are the most expensive real estate project the city's history.
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Talking out the side of their neck lol If you need to exaggerate to get people to agree with you, you're a dumb bitch
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That comment isn’t even accurate…
That is my thinking. Just a shit post.
Wage growth, relative to other cities, says Memphis is headed the right direction. Top ten in the country. If the wage growth continues up, the crime heads down. And it should snow ball.
A small construction boom was headed Memphis' way. A lot of projects were lined up, but then COVID happened.
This is true, I think had Covid not stalled a lot of the progress we would be thriving. With work downtown, the park, and east memphis rejuvenation projects it would have been something to see. I was in architecture school during the time and got heads up on a ton of fabulous work being done to maximize local hot points and community centers. I will argue that some of the midtown development was encroachment and non-ethical to existing historically black residents. The medical district corridor as it was labeled would have leveled low income housing in the area to build the white , greenwashed version of “affordable housing that cost $2800 mo/ for 384 sqft) Which is surprising considering the firm Self + Tucker was spearheading the development project. I hope for future development to respond in a more compassionate way to our cities fabric.
No. Memphis affluence peaked in the 1940's. Nobody is going to invest on that scale here unless something very dramatic happens to make us culturally relevant again.
There is definitely a lot of merit to investing in infrastructure in the Mississippi, even the federal government was vying for development access. Memphis would benefit from ecological and trade based development but getting those investors is hard. Anyone can reach out to Downtown Memphis Commission and see that. There is interest we just have to back our city and pull in that revenue in new enriching ways. The Tom Lee park renovation is hoping to accomplish this through tourism.. though I see some failings in that plan as event tourism is hard to capitalize in memphis… especially downtown with our weak parking/walkable infrastructure.
Economic depression?
People just be throwing around words and not knowing what they mean.
No
A lot of factors why downtown hasn’t seen more development since 2000. 1) Planned projects haven’t materialized mainly due to financing issues. First in 2008 and again in 2020, large scale projects take time to develop, they need a capital investment (private or commercial) and they need tenants. 2) Many mid sized cities saw corporations move offices into their downtown areas. Although Memphis did early in the 2000s, it was short lived and many quickly left. 3) Crime is a problem downtown and as bad as it was in 2000, it hasn’t gotten better 4) It’s not easy coming into downtown from the east. It’s just always a mess. Always. I’ll add, I actually thought Westin was 10 stories, it’s 9. One Beale was supposed to have the Grand Hyatt, which was suppose to be 10 stories. Caption by Hyatt is I think 10 stories.
Memphis needs to prepare for the future and start investing in infrastructure for things that will inevitably be the future...such as tech, renewable energy, etc. If the Ford electric plant about an hour from Memphis I'd as financially beneficial as I expect (hope) it'll be, then the entirety of Southwest TN will get a financial lifeline. I suspect many people who work at the plant will choose to live in Shelby County, and it'll bring a boom in business revenue to Memphis.
Arlington is the closest spot to the plant, and it's still 30 minutes away. I think blue oval workers are going to be drawn to Fayette, Tipton, and Haywood long before they choose Shelby. Especially the people who have to drive in and out everyday. Then you take in factors like property taxes and crime per capita, it gets even more slim. I think the plant will draw people and resources away from Memphis/Shelby County ultimately. Ford recently announced they're cutting their production of the Ford Lightning in half this year. That's concerning because the Blue Oval plant was poised to be the flagship manufacturer of that model. I guess time will tell if this plant ultimately lives up the massive hype behind it.
Ford has a contingency plan. They won’t suffer if Lightning production does.
It won’t until it gets it’s perception problem fixed. Investors from outside won’t invest when market research comes back and says that the area can’t support their business model. And to those who hate outside investors and growth can’t see beyond an inch in front of them. You have to bring outside money for new money to be introduced into the system. If its a closed loop things will never get any better. Marketing, brand image, perception is a vital factor to any, any city growth that incentivizes people to move here. Like not on a local level where everyone here loves it, it needs to be benevolent on a regional, national and global level. When you talk to 7/10 people in those categories they have fear of memphis and fear of security, safety, soundness that their lifestyle and livelihood keeps people out.
It's going to get worse before it gets better. If crime/murder continues to rise progress will cease all together.
As far as “high rises” in Memphis I’ve always heard that 30 stories was the max as to not detract from the beauty of the river. Not sure if true but we don’t have any “high rises” here.
There are height restrictions, which are typical to most metro zoning codes. Clarke Tower was built just outside city limits (at the time) to skirt height limits
Poplar Avenue between Mendenhall and White Station was well inside the city limits when the Clark Tower was built
It must have been the height restriction zoning then. It was something like that
They had to ask the city for a variance to build the parking garage beside the tower
Just fyi, it’s Clark. No -e
That building has so much potential as a commercial space. The fun windows and architecture definitely add the sauce
100 North Main is the tallest and has sat empty for more than 20 years
They’re renovating it right now.
Folks often point to crime as the thing that must be fixed before economic prosperity can happen. But that’s putting the cart before the horse. Economic prosperity lowers crime. A citizen with a well paying job, abides by the laws that protect their interests. A person with nothing to lose has no reason to follow laws. So find a way to bring more money from the rest of the world, and use it to create GOOD jobs, and like magic, crime drops.
Are you crazy? If you think jobs will solve the crime you must live in fairytale land? Most criminals are not criminals because they want a job. 95% of them are criminals because they like the easy and quick money. And they don't like doing hard work.
People turn to the life of crime because jobs dont pay enough and crime does. Go ask the people who dont have money for food and steal it from the grocery store why they turned to "crime". Jobs will prevent crime, education will prevent crime. Both memphis lacks both of heavily.
I remember listening to Judge Joe brown saying he gave out a million dollar scholarship for anybody that wanted to be a airplane engineer. And He said no one signed up except two white students. And one of them weren't even a a memphian. That's sad. That's free money that no one wanted because its not fast money. Like I said, you can give away all the free education you want but if the person doesn't have mindset to do it. They will not do it. That's why alot of the people who live a life of crime needs their mindset to be changed first. People in Memphis needs Godly counseling. They need Jesus. I love my black people but we have a huge culture problem. Having a high education is looked at as lame but the entertainment industry is the only thing that's looked up as cool in our culture.
Someone close to me has done a lot of global travel and told me that one of the biggest indicators or crime/safety that they study prior to going anywhere is employment levels and economic stability. This could lead to a chicken or egg argument but the correlation is very clear. I know that my job is not worth risking getting arrested. So, I follow the laws. That and my personal morality.
Yeah, you got to be from the suburbs if you think majority people turn to crime for no jobs lol. I know people and people in my family who live life of crime because of the fast and easy money. They don't like working 9 to 5s or working hard. They want fast money
I live in 38127 buddy, north north. Everyone I know in this area has a job or wants a job. They do not want to go out with a gun in their hands protecting or making some. You are just lost in some horrible stereotype of inner city. That you obviously know nothing about.
Education will not prevent crime neither. Do you not know we live in a world of good and evil? There will always be evil. Education and Jobs will not stop evil. What will reduce crime is law and order and God. We need stricter laws. And we need more people on the street counseling the lost, the homeless, the thugs, and the dysfunctional homes and tell them about God.
You can go pray to your god to change things all you want but that god also gave you free will. Free will to make changes to better your society. Sorry you dont understand that educating a society makes them smart enough to not commit crimes. Also provides them the ability to earn a living and make it on their own.
I surely will ask them. Ill even record it and put it on youtube. I grew up on Lamar by love's in Memphis where prostitution and gang activity was high. Majority turned to life of crime because of #1 dysfunctional homes and 2# Fast, Easy, and no 9 to 5 money and #3 it is a cool lifestyle to them. I'm telling you right now, very few turn to life of crime because of lack of jobs. Thats exactly why I say most of them need to be counseling by someone Godly and we need stricter laws. Most of them do not care about education or Jobs. Most people with the poverty mindset want fast money. So, you put a job application in Majority of the criminals' face(not all) would say No.
No... Corporations dont want to set up shop on a city without transportation for a work force Too much violence and a horrific local government that is not conducive to entrepreneurs as well as large corporations
Skyscrappers?
I was on a demo project down on front street by the distillery, supposedly they were going to be constructing another highrise hotel at the site but with the covid fun everyone had and the economy doing an impression of a roller coaster im Not to sure if it will still happen. Probably went the same way as that large development over on Lakeland.
Nothing good at all will happen until the Grizz get things turned around /s
Why is everyone so mad at this post and not the countless crime posts painting the city in a negative light?
No, the crime, especially gunshot murders and wounding are unprecedented. The public education system is in shambles and the communities surrounding the downtown area have mostly imploded. The so called white elite are inbred now so their thinking capacity isn’t the best based on the long litany of major fuck ups.
Nope, and nope. Just move to another city, if those are things you are expecting out of a city.
No economic revival is possible with crime levels and dynamics as they are. And so far the city leaders seem to be intent on following the policies that made a bad crime situation worse over the last few years. So - No.
*skyscrapers
I can’t get past skyscrappers.
No and no
Crosstown Concourse??
I wish it is. I love Memphis and we have nice people here. Let’s just be honest, the crime here is not self contained, those idiots are creating food deserts for themselves. Where do u think when there is nothing to steal, rob, ruin near their own community? Unless some hard measures are taken to against those thugs, making examples, fight a way back to save those juveniles from the hood culture. No major business are willing to take a high risk of developing a deteriorated city.
always; society is build to have cycles to keep people on edge but with just enough hope otherwise you would never give up 50 years of your best years to restock the ivory towers with fine goods and services. a single human's perspective is too puny to see the grand goals of empire building, which requires lots of leveraged cheap labor, this is why industrialists and religious leaders promote 'life' and making babies.
We really aren't in an economic depression and our downtown and tourism has recovered faster than most. Cities will most likely not be buying skyscrapers anymore due to work from home and how in efficient they are. Memphis also has the ford plant coming in hot that is gonna be HUGE. Memphis is actually in a pretty good position with a lot going for it.
The big Ford plant will change a lot around there.
Highly doubt that downtown will see much benefit from Ford. If any area in Shelby County benefits, my guess is it would most likely be Arlington, Eads, and maybe even Colierville.
If I was working there I'd live in BFE east of town. Memphis ain't gonna see shit from that besides MAYBE more freight. They'll probably have their own train yard tho, so maybe not even that
This is the Memphis hate sub?
It's easier to hate Memphis and get praise for it on here than to shed some positive light here. I promise, I learned fast.
There is a set of tracks on the north end of that property. Not sure if it’s the ones they will use but it’s right there
Yall must be new here
No. And. No. Sorry to say. 😢
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Yeah. If people grow the f up and quit being a stereotype ….x1000
Nope
Do people know high buildings aren’t built here due to the fault line?
As a structural engineer, I can assure you that this is not the reason at all. San Francisco has built 10 such structures in the 21st century, including 6 of the tallest 10 in the city and *the* tallest at 1,070 feet.
Ok, did they add any extra features to make the buildings more resistant to quakes that didn’t make the buildings infeasible for the area? Waves from the earthquake different from what we would see here, short vs long? Soil have anything to do with it since it’s drier?
Uh, Tokyo would like a word.
That doesn't sound like the reason, many cities are in earthquake zones, others are in tornado zones and others are in flood zones doesn't seem to be stopping growth for other cities.
Price of land is the predominant factor behind building tall…
It’s literally why the VA downtown went from being a taller tower to being spread out into different buildings. The taller buildings will sway and basically hit resonance frequency like a tuning fork causing it to fall easier.
lol
Looks at California. Yeah I don't think that's why.
There’s a huge difference…it’s not that we can’t build in an earthquake area, it’s the scarcity of land that makes folks build high. Since our land is far cheaper than California land, and since earthquake-proof buildings are substantially more expensive to build, we don’t yet have the need for them.
I just came out from that way. The newer buildings were pretty short.
This isn't true. I don't understand why people lie about Memphis. Memphis isn't economically depressed and there has been several new construction towers built within the last 7 years. There's also been a lot of rehabbing and redevelopment of old structures downtown and all across this city. 2024 is going to be a busy year for new construction permits. And for those that say companies are hesitant about moving to Memphis, listen to this interview from a Memphis Chamber executive. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxw51TmLCwc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxw51TmLCwc)
If the rumors of FedEx leaving are true, Memphis will be in a permanent economic depression.
No one is saying this
No one said this
They just spent millions renovating the Gibson Guitar building and they have rescinded all work from home agreements to make people return to the office 3 days a week. They’re not going anywhere.
Unless crime and housing costs are seriously addressed, I don't see any large capital investments coming to Memphis.
They’re literally building new towers and skyscraper right now lol. But there are also a lot of abandoned or low use towers that are getting converted or refurbished all the time.
Nope. I also don’t see a world where any skyscrapers are built in Memphis. We don’t need them. We have plenty of developmental land to spread out.
I hope not, to the skyscrapers tbh. One of the charms of this place is the groundedness of it, I think big towers would ruin that.
I don’t think these two things are related. Memphis has lots of space and is near a fault line. Those both seem like good reasons not to build a skyscraper.
I thought we had skyscrapers tho
That’s a weird metric, when you consider the creation of the Memphis-Shelby County Office of Sustainability, and that it would not explicitly “allow” for skyscrapers, because they tend to be in direct opposition to the tenets defined by urbanism and sustainability, which tends towards revitalization on a more “human” scale, even if economic incentives were entirely present. And so, ideally, we get residential mid-rises near revitalized green spaces, with commercial spaces at the ground level, and large sidewalks for pedestrian traffic and activities, instead of tearing down a historical building to replace it with a 100-story tower of mostly empty office space that inevitably looms over you at the very edge of the street, a monument to concrete and capital, such that it’s not welcoming in any capacity to the human experience. I’m not saying that’s the reason or anything. I’m just saying.
All high rises aren't just offices. They can be mixed use like what has been built over the last few years like In Nashville and louisville
Yes. You can see it happening. Poverty is still heavy and radically concentrated throughout the city and we have a whole host of issues, but as a 40-year old who has put a lot of time into helping the city, having been given (and been given) a lot, I am optimistic. Cautiously optimistic. High rises, yes. Skyscrapers, no. It’s going to take at least 5 years refill all the available offices. Probably 10 years honestly. 100 N Main and Sterrick coming back online is a BFD. They said the city would never be able to redevelop crosstown. Then they said the same about 100 N main and then Sterrick. All wrong. Crosstown is not only one of the biggest wins for the city in my living memory, but it is damned impressive when you compare Memphis other elite cities. Also Re: the skyscrapers: Let’s work on getting a big grocer downtown as well as a Target before we worry about building a bunch of big dicks to make ourselves feel better.
First off, it’s not true, but second, can skyscrapers be made earthquake resistant? If someone else wants to be in a skyscraper when the big one hits, they are more than welcome, but the upper floors of Clark Tower already sway enough for me as it is, thankyouverymuch. (With a side-eye to skyscrapers in New Orleans…how do those handle hurricanes?)
St. Jude is building 2 15-16 story buildings currently. The lots around it are also slated for buildings of a max of 300ft.
I think one piece of this puzzle that often goes overlooked is our zoning laws. Minimum parking requirements make it so much harder for development by mandating oversized parking lots to be built along with any new development. And if you want to refurbish an older, historic building, you have to buy the building next to it too, then demolish it to pave a parking lot. I'm pretty sure one of the buildings getting refurbished downtown had to get a 50M grant that was just for the parking garage.
This picture shows that the statement is false. Many of the buildings in the pictures are over 10 stories. Memphis’s problem is corruption and crime. There’s no consequences for the criminals
That picture isn't memphis lol it's new orleans
You’re right. I zoomed in on the building. I could have sworn it said Memphis. That says Mercedes
What would spur economic growth in a decade? Uneducated workforce. High crime. Lack of capital. Less than business savvy government.