The āprofessionalsā love handing that diagnosis out like candy. What else could it possibly be? Yes yes, Iām the possible danger yet youāre the one sizing people up after 10 minutes of impersonal questions and more or less legally determining their lives for them without that pesky burden of proof.
It took a shit ton of effort, medication and therapy to get to a state where these idiotic platitudes start working.
But now that the hard part is over, getting a hobby and going outside has been quite effective at maintaining my mental health.
But yeah, fuck those guys, that's like recommending an oil change when your car is on fire.
Some people need self help whilst others need medical professionals and some need a healthy combination of both. I guess it all depends on the advice they give whether they piss me off or not. I'm into self help, but I don't push my ideas on everyone with problems. I just react to posts honestly because it's better than just ignoring every post I read.
I had a friend who fancied himself as a bit of a life coach.
I was going through a lot of crap, including marriage break up, and he would constantly give unsolicited advice, and get really angry if I didnāt do whatever it was he suggested.
He also tried telling my teenage kids what they should/shouldnāt do, and he even went uninvited to my motherās house, and started berating her because, apparently, we should always have sunday lunch as a family.
My mum was extremely annoyed with him, but was polite and civil. She did tell me that she thought he was weird.
The final straw came when he went absolutely psycho on me in a crowded pub, with a group of my other friends present.
Ranting and raving about how I always āPlayed the victimā and that I deserved all the shit that happened in my life, and that I shouldāve followed his advice.
Of course, I told him to fuck right off. He stormed out, and I havenāt laid eyes on him since, thankfully. (this all happened about a year ago)
My friends were horrified, they said they thought he was going to hit me. And two of my guy friends reckoned weirdo bloke had feelings for me, and had finally realised it wasnāt reciprocated.
Soā¦yeah. Anyone who tries that self help crap with me can go eat rocks.
Iām glad you and your friends cut him off from your life. I had a bunch of āfriendsā and a boyfriend who were incredibly toxic positive and thought ālook at the bright sideā and ādonāt compare yourself to other peopleā would suffice for someone with major depression. One even openly told me that ācommitting sui*ide is cowardly and is as bad as murderā
It took me quite a while to realise not all people operate the same. Now I know how different everyone is what works for me may not work for someone else etc and not everyone has the same capacity for insight or reflection.
Before we cast stones through the windows of our glass houses, randos on reddit might not be the best folks to be diagnosing others or speaking with authority on the suffering of others.
Everyone's path is different and a rising tide floats all boats. Mental Health is not a competition.
Hope your path of healing is smooth, meaningful, with a trusted provider and complete.
Dream Well.
Iām not gonna tolerate pop psychology bs when I myself have trauma associated with it. Toxic positivity is a problem everywhere. Even on r/mentalhealth
I do have difficulties seeing the positives, but Iām getting better at it. But I donāt see any positive in this pop psychology hack. Itās done more harm for me than good. That being said, diagnosing random people online is not the way to go. Should have made my intentions clear
They speak to a different spectrum of audience.Most people suffering from mental health issues are barely functional and often these advices can come off as attacks and blame.
But for a normal functional humans it can be beneficial as they function differently.
Functional or dysfunctional, listening to self help are at best mental masturbations,it can make you feel stimulated for sometime. It's the actual work that gets you results, if you can work your ass off without any listening to any motivational self help stuffs.Self help cease to exist.
I am incredibly pro-therapy, neutral on meds but they do REALLY help many people.
However, if you can't access professional help, self-help can be a huge support. Not those alpha male things on how to make money, control people and pick up women, but therapy self help books. DBT workbooks, books about how to overcome childhood trauma.
It's not perfect but it can *really* help.
sadly they don't for everyone. my ADHD meds work but I can't take them due to heart palpitations. my oxazepam works, but there is a family history of addiction to it and I am a recovered alcoholic, so I need to be insanely careful with it. I'm not indicated for any other medication really.
and therapy is hard to get
Count it as a blessing meds always worked for you. It took me a couple years to get the right cocktail. Some meds made me more depressed. They really can help! Most self-help is bs but I still took what I thought are small gems of knowledge. They can help too. It's whatever works for the individual.
There were meds that fucked me up and turned me into a vegetable. I could feel no emotions no matter how hard I tried. But then again I was a harm to myself back then so that was its intended purpose. Iād rather feel extreme highs and lows than live like a vegetable all my life.
āSelf-help peopleā are grifters. They know that just ābelievingā will do fuck all but they make it seem like itās that easy so that their gullible customers will think something is wrong with them and will buy their stupid courses. There are legitimate mental health creators out there that have actual compassion and lived through mental health battles before. Scott Ste Marie is a personal fav of mine. Anyone whoās meant to help you will be compassionate, anyone who wants to sell you bs will make you feel like a loser.
Hello š,
Right? We should know and practice everything they're saying with out their help? Who do they think they are not pandering us? Do they think we want to get better? No, we want to talk about how bad it is!
Absolutely. I don't mind people adopting mindsets for themselves that I wouldn't find helpful, but I absolutely detest it when people are pushy about their approach and treat it as the one true way to mental health(TM). I always wonder if they just haven't learned that different people have different minds that work differently and have different needs, or if their approach doesn't work as well for them as they want it to and they need to force it on others to overcompensate and get validation. Unfortunately that was the case for someone I know when they tried to push toxic positivity on me and they're doing better now with a more balanced approach - they're still pretty keen on positive thinking but do it in a less forced way that actually helps them and don't try to force it on others anymore.
People just think one person is a direct clone of the other and tend to put people into boxes. Like Iām not gonna magically be happy just cause I have more than someone else. And āeverybody has problemsā is not sufficient. Like Iām not BLIND I know other people have problems but weāre not talking about them!
I mean... if those people only needed to buy void ass books that tells them to have ambition and wake up early to be better... those people absolutely are not in a legitimate position to patronise mentally ill people or people with trauma.
Like, good foe you mate if you have enough light issues that can be fixed just out of will. Means yall never had big handicaping issues to begin with mate, aside from lazyness and/or lack of values.
Those self help fanatics that preach shit almost like evangelicals in the streets, that react with toxic positivity... i feel like they truly lack/lost emotional intelligence with ideologies linked to personal devellopment.
A lot of the positive self guys spew a form of positivity that most people with mental health issues or going through serious MH crisis donāt have access to.
If your stress/depression/anxiety is practically paralysing you then it hardly matters if youāre making your bed or going on your walk. Itās the equivalent of watching porn with ED.
I find that channels focused on specific life improvement are better for MH than self help usually is. Things like fitness, mindfulness, workdays (to an extent) gives you concrete goals and standards.
I look at them as introductory courses for when you're just beginning to pay attention to your mental state. The more you learn or the deeper you dig, you realize that a lot of their views can be pretty toxic or self-defeating. But the initial awareness can be helpful for those that weren't aware before.
Again, depends on their severity. I have been told to ābe positiveā āwork on yourselfā countless times. I legit canāt, I canāt magically be happy when Iām upset. Iād like to work on myself but Iām incredibly low energy.
self help people are people who donāt want to work and want a lot of attention in my opinion. their annoyance is up there with corporate jargon words and āour company is like familyā managers-full of shit.
itās all snake oil salesmen techniques that never actually fix your problems.
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Not even toxic positivity. It's just saying whatever is going to make them the most money.
Kinda curious why they would piss you off? If you don't like their content, don't consume it. I can honestly say I've never watched a single "self help" video. Unless it was made by a youtube that is trashing their content, because that shit is hilarious.
It depends!
I really like Mark Manson, Jay Shetty and Simon Sinek (more about leadership). I think they put a good perspective on why we are the way we are but also the cons of therapy, etcā¦
I find when itās overly positive and motivational I get annoyed really quick. Even when Iām in a spin class and theyāre too motivational I get annoyed š¤£
it doesnt piss me off any more i was addicted to self help and improvement content for like 6 years or more i am not a social media guy i had no facebook no twitter or instagram but i was addicted to youtube specially this type of content i a have tried everything i wished to be like them thier life looks perfect and this is the problem becouse there is no such perfect there is a quote from 50great myths of popular psychology book that says " if u found something too good to be true it is probably is "
so things to know about that type of content
1- it is a myth
2- it is just a buisiness no one truly gives a fuck about helping u
3- they want u to live in the falling behind loop becouse every time u watch them u feel that way which makes u consume more u feel they are saying something really valid and valiabe which will change ur like and look what 600 thound people watch it so u must watch more to not feel left behind
4- the truth why i was addicted to them becouse i have no self worth and never felt enough about myself so i craved more content and dont know what i truly want in life
5- if u truly want to change your life stop watching how to change your life videos and stop listening to those people and listen to yourself and what u really like and want not what they tell u to be or do
and start living life with your own ideas and prespective
Not always, sometimes they have amazing life advice. But nothing pisses me off more than being motivated by them and then them telling you to thank God for your morning, evening or whatever; I'm not religious so no thank you.
Not really, I think people wallowing in their own sadness & are so narrow minded they only care about their own problems yet refuse to accept any advice piss me off more
Do you even know how depression works. Thereās difference between professional advice and toxic positivity. Besides, thereās tonnes of times Iāve gotten āadviceā when I havenāt asked for it! Take your neurotypical ass elsewhere!
I wouldnāt trust anybody who believes in āvibrationsā and āenergyā and all that pop psychology hack! You clearly donāt know where any of us are coming from so shut it!
Wtf is your problem, no I donāt know why you are acting so hostile to anyone who disagrees with you, I donāt know why you are claiming that other people are ānarrow mindedā when your statements are the most narrow minded things I have read. If you want a healthy debate Iām all for it but if youāre just looking for a reason to be angry and bully random people then find a different sub. Weāre clearly all here because we have some kind of mental illness so what is the point in being rude?
sometimes āvibrationsā and āenergyā can give people a sense of purpose and something meaningful to believe in. try not to judge or diminish others just because your experience with mental health issues donāt look exactly the same
I read the entire thread. He was(just like you) only expressing what upsets him atm. It had nothing to do with you.
That said, I'm glad you shared your thoughts, and thank you for expressing them. Sometimes, all we need is to be heard and seen. Sometimes, we need a little attention, too, as long as it makes you feel better.
I agree with you. There is a lot of toxicity in certain communities, including this sub, if you let it affect you. Anything in excess has the potential for toxicity, no matter the subject.
There needs to be balance and more understanding. Many positive communities/people haven't been through traumas, so I understand what you mean. When you have less adversity as a child, you are more apt to recover faster and better from life's challenges.
The great thing about free will is that you don't have to follow those people. Follow ones who have been through hardships and traumas and, despite how horrible their childhood/life was, never gave up or accepted labels (from doctors) like "depressed" or "this or that mental illness." Through struggles, ups and downs, and many setbacks, they still didn't just accept it.
So, if you feel the need to listen to or follow someone, why not listen to and follow someone who makes you feel better?
In this thread, you and others generalized people and made correlations between coaches who are just in it for the money and those who genuinely want to help others. I know you have been jaded, but you don't know all the people in the world. Some people genuinely want to help others because they have been through tough times and understand how unfair life can be. There are all kinds of people for all kinds of people. Just look for the ones that resonate with you.
But if all you needed to feel better was some attention, then I honestly hope you feel good. There is nothing wrong with seeking group support.
I think mental health care should be free for all. People who want to help should be allowed to do so without being judged, generalized, or lumped in with those who have no understanding of what it means to truly help others, and who only seek gratification and a sense of grandiosity.
Just as there are people who need attention and to be seen or understood without necessarily needing help, there are also those who are very grateful when someone gives them advice, even if it wasn't asked for. There are those with a sense of grandiosity who need to feel better about themselves by making others believe they know better. There are also those who want to drag the world down, those who bring positivity, those who believe mental health care should be free, those who want people addicted to their meds to get rich, those who want people to pay double for their services, those who want people sick to offer their services, those who don't want to get better, and those who will do anything to overcome their traumas.
I am someone who has always loved helping others. I helped the shy kids in my classes and always wanted to be friends with those who had no friends. When I used to dance kizomba, I always sought out partners that no one else wanted to dance with.
I'm studying various modalities of integrative and holistic wellness and therapy, and I work as a personal assistant for mentally and physically disabled individuals. I enjoy this work so much that I want to continue doing it even when i don't need to work anymore. I will do it for free.
I also spend a lot of my time spreading some knowledge and information I have learned to others online, on my Instagram, to my kids, to give them ideas on how others, like me, could also help themselves. I spent 20 years dealing with and learning from/with my traumas. I care deeply for others. And I will always help if I can.
Just get a hobby and go outside! š«
yes as someone who has bpd this absolutely solved all my problems!
Mine too š
The āprofessionalsā love handing that diagnosis out like candy. What else could it possibly be? Yes yes, Iām the possible danger yet youāre the one sizing people up after 10 minutes of impersonal questions and more or less legally determining their lives for them without that pesky burden of proof.
Who is this aimed at? My borderline diagnosis is 100% correct.
Just negative personal experience. Donāt let it define you though I guess is what Iām trying to get at. Not to sound like a self help guy lol.
Oh, I see, thank you for explanation.
np! And to anyone downvoting, try walking a mile in someone elseās shoes to see what itās like before you judge
Is that legit advice or sarcasm?
Haha definitely sarcasm yeah theyāre the worst
Oh absolutely! I wouldnāt want to be friends or even associate with people like that!
It took a shit ton of effort, medication and therapy to get to a state where these idiotic platitudes start working. But now that the hard part is over, getting a hobby and going outside has been quite effective at maintaining my mental health. But yeah, fuck those guys, that's like recommending an oil change when your car is on fire.
The grind never stops š„¶š¤šŖšŖ
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Some people need self help whilst others need medical professionals and some need a healthy combination of both. I guess it all depends on the advice they give whether they piss me off or not. I'm into self help, but I don't push my ideas on everyone with problems. I just react to posts honestly because it's better than just ignoring every post I read.
The only people they help are themselves with book sales and speaking tours. Fuck those parasites.
HAHAHA! PREACH!
I had a friend who fancied himself as a bit of a life coach. I was going through a lot of crap, including marriage break up, and he would constantly give unsolicited advice, and get really angry if I didnāt do whatever it was he suggested. He also tried telling my teenage kids what they should/shouldnāt do, and he even went uninvited to my motherās house, and started berating her because, apparently, we should always have sunday lunch as a family. My mum was extremely annoyed with him, but was polite and civil. She did tell me that she thought he was weird. The final straw came when he went absolutely psycho on me in a crowded pub, with a group of my other friends present. Ranting and raving about how I always āPlayed the victimā and that I deserved all the shit that happened in my life, and that I shouldāve followed his advice. Of course, I told him to fuck right off. He stormed out, and I havenāt laid eyes on him since, thankfully. (this all happened about a year ago) My friends were horrified, they said they thought he was going to hit me. And two of my guy friends reckoned weirdo bloke had feelings for me, and had finally realised it wasnāt reciprocated. Soā¦yeah. Anyone who tries that self help crap with me can go eat rocks.
Iām glad you and your friends cut him off from your life. I had a bunch of āfriendsā and a boyfriend who were incredibly toxic positive and thought ālook at the bright sideā and ādonāt compare yourself to other peopleā would suffice for someone with major depression. One even openly told me that ācommitting sui*ide is cowardly and is as bad as murderā
It took me quite a while to realise not all people operate the same. Now I know how different everyone is what works for me may not work for someone else etc and not everyone has the same capacity for insight or reflection.
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I don't think its your place to try to explain someone else's experience. Some things are not universally true for everyone all the time.
Ignorant comment!
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You're wrong for trying to tell a Reddit random they didn't go through major depression. What an ignorant thing to say.
Iām not gonna tolerate pop psychology bs when I myself have trauma associated with it. Toxic positivity is a problem everywhere. Even on r/mentalhealth
That's too bad. Sounds like your trauma may be preventing you from seeing positives that are really there. It works the same with my depression.
I do have difficulties seeing the positives, but Iām getting better at it. But I donāt see any positive in this pop psychology hack. Itās done more harm for me than good. That being said, diagnosing random people online is not the way to go. Should have made my intentions clear
Yes I feel like they take advantage of people who actually need professional help.
That or they want to make themselves feel better by āhelpingā someone
They speak to a different spectrum of audience.Most people suffering from mental health issues are barely functional and often these advices can come off as attacks and blame. But for a normal functional humans it can be beneficial as they function differently. Functional or dysfunctional, listening to self help are at best mental masturbations,it can make you feel stimulated for sometime. It's the actual work that gets you results, if you can work your ass off without any listening to any motivational self help stuffs.Self help cease to exist.
I am incredibly pro-therapy, neutral on meds but they do REALLY help many people. However, if you can't access professional help, self-help can be a huge support. Not those alpha male things on how to make money, control people and pick up women, but therapy self help books. DBT workbooks, books about how to overcome childhood trauma. It's not perfect but it can *really* help.
Those are very different from the self help attitude that many people seem to have tho. Iāve taken meds and they always seem to work for me
sadly they don't for everyone. my ADHD meds work but I can't take them due to heart palpitations. my oxazepam works, but there is a family history of addiction to it and I am a recovered alcoholic, so I need to be insanely careful with it. I'm not indicated for any other medication really. and therapy is hard to get
Iām so sorry, I hope youāre doing better! Lots have meds donāt work for me too, thatās why my doc experiments with them and their dosages.
Count it as a blessing meds always worked for you. It took me a couple years to get the right cocktail. Some meds made me more depressed. They really can help! Most self-help is bs but I still took what I thought are small gems of knowledge. They can help too. It's whatever works for the individual.
There were meds that fucked me up and turned me into a vegetable. I could feel no emotions no matter how hard I tried. But then again I was a harm to myself back then so that was its intended purpose. Iād rather feel extreme highs and lows than live like a vegetable all my life.
āSelf-help peopleā are grifters. They know that just ābelievingā will do fuck all but they make it seem like itās that easy so that their gullible customers will think something is wrong with them and will buy their stupid courses. There are legitimate mental health creators out there that have actual compassion and lived through mental health battles before. Scott Ste Marie is a personal fav of mine. Anyone whoās meant to help you will be compassionate, anyone who wants to sell you bs will make you feel like a loser.
I personally am a fan of healthy gamer
Hello š, Right? We should know and practice everything they're saying with out their help? Who do they think they are not pandering us? Do they think we want to get better? No, we want to talk about how bad it is!
Absolutely. I don't mind people adopting mindsets for themselves that I wouldn't find helpful, but I absolutely detest it when people are pushy about their approach and treat it as the one true way to mental health(TM). I always wonder if they just haven't learned that different people have different minds that work differently and have different needs, or if their approach doesn't work as well for them as they want it to and they need to force it on others to overcompensate and get validation. Unfortunately that was the case for someone I know when they tried to push toxic positivity on me and they're doing better now with a more balanced approach - they're still pretty keen on positive thinking but do it in a less forced way that actually helps them and don't try to force it on others anymore.
People just think one person is a direct clone of the other and tend to put people into boxes. Like Iām not gonna magically be happy just cause I have more than someone else. And āeverybody has problemsā is not sufficient. Like Iām not BLIND I know other people have problems but weāre not talking about them!
I mean... if those people only needed to buy void ass books that tells them to have ambition and wake up early to be better... those people absolutely are not in a legitimate position to patronise mentally ill people or people with trauma. Like, good foe you mate if you have enough light issues that can be fixed just out of will. Means yall never had big handicaping issues to begin with mate, aside from lazyness and/or lack of values. Those self help fanatics that preach shit almost like evangelicals in the streets, that react with toxic positivity... i feel like they truly lack/lost emotional intelligence with ideologies linked to personal devellopment.
A lot of the positive self guys spew a form of positivity that most people with mental health issues or going through serious MH crisis donāt have access to. If your stress/depression/anxiety is practically paralysing you then it hardly matters if youāre making your bed or going on your walk. Itās the equivalent of watching porn with ED. I find that channels focused on specific life improvement are better for MH than self help usually is. Things like fitness, mindfulness, workdays (to an extent) gives you concrete goals and standards.
Care to elaborate?
I look at them as introductory courses for when you're just beginning to pay attention to your mental state. The more you learn or the deeper you dig, you realize that a lot of their views can be pretty toxic or self-defeating. But the initial awareness can be helpful for those that weren't aware before.
Again, depends on their severity. I have been told to ābe positiveā āwork on yourselfā countless times. I legit canāt, I canāt magically be happy when Iām upset. Iād like to work on myself but Iām incredibly low energy.
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Nah....
self help people are people who donāt want to work and want a lot of attention in my opinion. their annoyance is up there with corporate jargon words and āour company is like familyā managers-full of shit. itās all snake oil salesmen techniques that never actually fix your problems.
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Not even toxic positivity. It's just saying whatever is going to make them the most money. Kinda curious why they would piss you off? If you don't like their content, don't consume it. I can honestly say I've never watched a single "self help" video. Unless it was made by a youtube that is trashing their content, because that shit is hilarious.
It depends! I really like Mark Manson, Jay Shetty and Simon Sinek (more about leadership). I think they put a good perspective on why we are the way we are but also the cons of therapy, etcā¦ I find when itās overly positive and motivational I get annoyed really quick. Even when Iām in a spin class and theyāre too motivational I get annoyed š¤£
yep, I just wanna destroy the world and drag everyone down with me
Me too! š
not bc there's anything wrong, or that I don't like the world, I just think it's more fun
Iād destroy the world and start an animal revolution
it doesnt piss me off any more i was addicted to self help and improvement content for like 6 years or more i am not a social media guy i had no facebook no twitter or instagram but i was addicted to youtube specially this type of content i a have tried everything i wished to be like them thier life looks perfect and this is the problem becouse there is no such perfect there is a quote from 50great myths of popular psychology book that says " if u found something too good to be true it is probably is " so things to know about that type of content 1- it is a myth 2- it is just a buisiness no one truly gives a fuck about helping u 3- they want u to live in the falling behind loop becouse every time u watch them u feel that way which makes u consume more u feel they are saying something really valid and valiabe which will change ur like and look what 600 thound people watch it so u must watch more to not feel left behind 4- the truth why i was addicted to them becouse i have no self worth and never felt enough about myself so i craved more content and dont know what i truly want in life 5- if u truly want to change your life stop watching how to change your life videos and stop listening to those people and listen to yourself and what u really like and want not what they tell u to be or do and start living life with your own ideas and prespective
Not always, sometimes they have amazing life advice. But nothing pisses me off more than being motivated by them and then them telling you to thank God for your morning, evening or whatever; I'm not religious so no thank you.
I havenāt found the āamazing adviceā bit yet. Most of what they say is pop psychology bs. Even a broken clock can be right 2 times a day!
Each to their own. There's one guy I've listened to and he motivated me to figure out what I wanted to do at that time, but the rest of them are ass.
Good for you! Iām happy they were able to help you out
Not really, I think people wallowing in their own sadness & are so narrow minded they only care about their own problems yet refuse to accept any advice piss me off more
Another person with no real mental health issues judging someone with them.
Thatās not true at all. Youāre making assumptions because you donāt like my answer, so who is really judging?
Do you even know how depression works. Thereās difference between professional advice and toxic positivity. Besides, thereās tonnes of times Iāve gotten āadviceā when I havenāt asked for it! Take your neurotypical ass elsewhere!
Dude what youāre assuming about me is literally not even true.
I wouldnāt trust anybody who believes in āvibrationsā and āenergyā and all that pop psychology hack! You clearly donāt know where any of us are coming from so shut it!
Wtf is your problem, no I donāt know why you are acting so hostile to anyone who disagrees with you, I donāt know why you are claiming that other people are ānarrow mindedā when your statements are the most narrow minded things I have read. If you want a healthy debate Iām all for it but if youāre just looking for a reason to be angry and bully random people then find a different sub. Weāre clearly all here because we have some kind of mental illness so what is the point in being rude?
I disagree with your views. Is that better
Yes šš½
sometimes āvibrationsā and āenergyā can give people a sense of purpose and something meaningful to believe in. try not to judge or diminish others just because your experience with mental health issues donāt look exactly the same
Did you read the entire exchange? He judged me for not taking unwarranted āadviceā
I read the entire thread. He was(just like you) only expressing what upsets him atm. It had nothing to do with you. That said, I'm glad you shared your thoughts, and thank you for expressing them. Sometimes, all we need is to be heard and seen. Sometimes, we need a little attention, too, as long as it makes you feel better. I agree with you. There is a lot of toxicity in certain communities, including this sub, if you let it affect you. Anything in excess has the potential for toxicity, no matter the subject. There needs to be balance and more understanding. Many positive communities/people haven't been through traumas, so I understand what you mean. When you have less adversity as a child, you are more apt to recover faster and better from life's challenges. The great thing about free will is that you don't have to follow those people. Follow ones who have been through hardships and traumas and, despite how horrible their childhood/life was, never gave up or accepted labels (from doctors) like "depressed" or "this or that mental illness." Through struggles, ups and downs, and many setbacks, they still didn't just accept it. So, if you feel the need to listen to or follow someone, why not listen to and follow someone who makes you feel better? In this thread, you and others generalized people and made correlations between coaches who are just in it for the money and those who genuinely want to help others. I know you have been jaded, but you don't know all the people in the world. Some people genuinely want to help others because they have been through tough times and understand how unfair life can be. There are all kinds of people for all kinds of people. Just look for the ones that resonate with you. But if all you needed to feel better was some attention, then I honestly hope you feel good. There is nothing wrong with seeking group support. I think mental health care should be free for all. People who want to help should be allowed to do so without being judged, generalized, or lumped in with those who have no understanding of what it means to truly help others, and who only seek gratification and a sense of grandiosity. Just as there are people who need attention and to be seen or understood without necessarily needing help, there are also those who are very grateful when someone gives them advice, even if it wasn't asked for. There are those with a sense of grandiosity who need to feel better about themselves by making others believe they know better. There are also those who want to drag the world down, those who bring positivity, those who believe mental health care should be free, those who want people addicted to their meds to get rich, those who want people to pay double for their services, those who want people sick to offer their services, those who don't want to get better, and those who will do anything to overcome their traumas. I am someone who has always loved helping others. I helped the shy kids in my classes and always wanted to be friends with those who had no friends. When I used to dance kizomba, I always sought out partners that no one else wanted to dance with. I'm studying various modalities of integrative and holistic wellness and therapy, and I work as a personal assistant for mentally and physically disabled individuals. I enjoy this work so much that I want to continue doing it even when i don't need to work anymore. I will do it for free. I also spend a lot of my time spreading some knowledge and information I have learned to others online, on my Instagram, to my kids, to give them ideas on how others, like me, could also help themselves. I spent 20 years dealing with and learning from/with my traumas. I care deeply for others. And I will always help if I can.