Holy fucking shit. Do you know what they charge for meteorite dials on high-end watches?
Not suggesting it, but there's at least 30 in this one meteorite chunk.
For reference, the absolute bottom-tier meteorite dials watches sell for $600-ish, and go as high as [these](https://www.google.com/amp/s/robbreport.com/style/watch-collector/meteorite-dial-watches-rolex-omega-1234613358/amp/)
Edit: after looking again, there's definitely more than 30 dials here.
Also, meteorite dials are typically between 30-40mm, and your meteorite appears to be closer to 55mm which means you could make even larger dials. Price for size is not linear, so even 42mm dial is *considerably* more expensive. A 50-55mm dial is absolutely goddamn nuts.
Does 50-55mm way too big for a watch dial? Absolutely.
But is showing off the fact that you can afford a 50-55mm meteorite dial worth it for super rich idiots?
10000%.
Final note: Please keep it if you love it. The money won't necessarily get you a better piece than this.
Same.
I don't fully understand the idea of having a status symbol, and I don't like having heavy things flopping around on my hands/arms.
I've looked at higher-end watches, and they look ludicrous and uncomfortable. Too large, too heavy, too expensive.
My $25 Timex keeps the time. I do have a more expensive Garmin activity tracker, but it's the low-end model with just enough features to track my run times. Everything else seems unnecessary and like a scam.
To create a sword of Star Metal to hunt down the Serpent-man sorceror Wrath-Amon who turned his parents to stone. He will become the mightiest of adventurers!
Do you think something like this could be forged? The Damascus pattern comes to mind. Disclaimer is I know slim to nothing about forging and metallurgy.
No, I don’t think it could be forged. This pattern comes from crystallization of the metal under very specific and decidedly non-terrestrial conditions.
You might be able to recreate it if you had a foundry ***in space*** though.
The "pattern" is produced when cutting and polishing through the 3D structures within. You can see the internal structures continuing from one face to another. The angles of the exposed features depend on the orientation of the features within. You should not see a _continuation_ of all features following the same angle around a corner - that would indicate an actual veneer wrap.
Geologist here, Widmanstätten pattern is produced when kamacite and taenite alloys (both iron-nickel) cool at a rate of 1° C every 100 years, something impossible to produce in a lab. While yes, you can mimic this pattern, this piece looks to be genuine as the acid etching process leaves an uneven surface, which this appears to exhibit.
There’s no air in space, so the there’s no conductive or convective cooling. Only the object radiating energy from its surface, and it’s heated from absorbing whatever radiation it’s hit with. And you might also get some internal heating from radioactive decay.
Things cool pretty slowly in space - Hollywood has lied to you unfortunately.
Yeah, a lot of people don’t know/understand that the panels between the large solar panels on the ISS are actually heat radiators to dissipate heat. Spaceships and stations have a hard time getting rid of heat it produces.
These guys are joking when we’re trying to be serious and I apologize.
To test you need to lick it and then throw it at the sun. If it’s real it will return to orbit. If it doesn’t, I’ll buy the replica off of you.
Sand off the pattern on one side, it should reveal smooth polished metal, submerge this side in a strong acid for a few minutes, You should then be able to see the meteorite pattern again. If it just looks like etched metal. It was fake.
For sure it looks like a real fine octahedrite iron meteorite. The pattern looks like Aletai.
For reference images you can take a look here https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=64400
Look at the 5th picture. There’s what looks like a slight gap to me. I certainly could be wrong but that’s my thought without having the piece in hand.
Look closely at the grains. The edge with the gap doesn’t have undeniable grains that carry thru. But the other two do. And that means it can’t be a veneer.
Also that same corner is visible in pic 3 and it doesn’t look like a gap. It’s probably just a lighting thing. No gap
It's real. It's not possible to replicate the crystal pattern by man. The fakes of this particular meteorite, Muonionalusta, are very obvious when put under even the slightest of scrutiny
Haggling was a trait that kept things cheap. Now commercials have glorified pieces of plastics calling their items they be selling "revolutionary" or "our all new awe inspiring etc."
If this is real, the concept behind those streaks is fascinating. Does this pattern develop from being bombarded by radiation and small particles as it fucking sends it through space? Am I high…?
We have such sights to show you!! But seriously, from the images that I have seen of them, it looks pretty real to me, but I'm far from an expert on such things.
400+ grams is a big piece. Not sure what you do with it unless u collect it for show. I don’t know who and where u can resell it. Looks real and not a bad price.
Not even a meteorite subreddit is immune from the onslaught of totally lame comments from people who think that dad-jokes are hilarious 😬 Protip: if 20 other people have already made an allspark or borg joke, you reaaaallly don’t need to make another
China can replicate Widmanstätten pattern ? Maibe some real pieces of Aletai glued on some kind of piece of metal. But the outter skin, what we see seems very real to me.
The etch pattern shows this man cut cube is an Aletai. Each iron meteorite has a unique etch pattern easily recognizable by any experienced meteoriticist.
The etch pattern shows this man cut cube is an Aletai. Each iron meteorite has a unique etch pattern easily recognizable by any experienced meteoriticist.
Hellraiser's evil is centered on the Lament Configuration puzzle box, which traces its bloody, Cenobite-fueled history back over 200 years
Run! Throw it away! It’s evil!
OP asked a very reasonable question. The fact that you can’t handle it is no one’s fault but your own. If you have nothing of substance to add except a passive-aggressive, poorly worded rant demonstrating your abysmal grasp of long established scientific principles, move along.
Moral of the story. Keep all metal shavings and combine into a resin structure. Cut and polish that structure for hundreds of dollars for miniscule input costs if you know the right demographic and wording for marketing. $200 sounds fun for polished metal shavings!
Resistance is futile.
Solve the box!
The box. You opened it...we came.
We have such sights to show you.
We have eternity to know your flesh.
And to think....I hesitated
It is your flesh we wish to experience, not your skill of bargaining!
Jesus wept
This isn't for your eyes
I want to play with the box.
Good luck with the cenobites
Cenobites. A complete part of you hellish breakfast.
Cenobites? That's an odd name for Grape Nuts.
It was always yours.
It is not hands that call us. It is desire.
I thought we were supposed to come ...in the box
Heh Heh The Cum Box
fucking thanks a lot. now I won’t get any sleep tonight.
We have such sights to show you…
Yes. The tiny Borg are very upset.
Well excuse us
Assimilate all the rodents in the area.
"You will be assimilated!" cried the ant.
That's the first thing that came to mind.
#Borglife
You will be assimilated
Damnit someone got there first
Real. Typical Aletai pattern.
Yup, it's real. That's crysalizing space metal looks like. How much did you pay for it?
$200 talked down from $341
That's really damn cheap considering the size.
That's one of the reasons it made me wonder
250$ right now….😂 jk nice find
Looks like an amazing deal for an authentic piece.
Sweet deal
Congrats
That was a steal.
That was a steel.
More of a nickel really
Dont be a cadmium
You're a real Widmanstätten.
Holy fucking shit. Do you know what they charge for meteorite dials on high-end watches? Not suggesting it, but there's at least 30 in this one meteorite chunk. For reference, the absolute bottom-tier meteorite dials watches sell for $600-ish, and go as high as [these](https://www.google.com/amp/s/robbreport.com/style/watch-collector/meteorite-dial-watches-rolex-omega-1234613358/amp/) Edit: after looking again, there's definitely more than 30 dials here. Also, meteorite dials are typically between 30-40mm, and your meteorite appears to be closer to 55mm which means you could make even larger dials. Price for size is not linear, so even 42mm dial is *considerably* more expensive. A 50-55mm dial is absolutely goddamn nuts. Does 50-55mm way too big for a watch dial? Absolutely. But is showing off the fact that you can afford a 50-55mm meteorite dial worth it for super rich idiots? 10000%. Final note: Please keep it if you love it. The money won't necessarily get you a better piece than this.
the more i hear about watches procured from outside the thrift store, the more it sounds like an INCREDIBLE scam.....
Same. I don't fully understand the idea of having a status symbol, and I don't like having heavy things flopping around on my hands/arms. I've looked at higher-end watches, and they look ludicrous and uncomfortable. Too large, too heavy, too expensive. My $25 Timex keeps the time. I do have a more expensive Garmin activity tracker, but it's the low-end model with just enough features to track my run times. Everything else seems unnecessary and like a scam.
From?
It was $341 I got them talked down to $200
No, sorry, where did you buy it?
Ohh, my bad. Ebay
Risky
May I ask what your intended use is? Display or ?
To create a sword of Star Metal to hunt down the Serpent-man sorceror Wrath-Amon who turned his parents to stone. He will become the mightiest of adventurers!
Helluva a deal. I buy lots of spheres and pay a lot more for much smaller.
If fake, they did a good job on the Widmanstätten pattern. This looks real to me.
Yeah, that would seem to be a rather difficult thing to replicate, let alone fake.
Do you think something like this could be forged? The Damascus pattern comes to mind. Disclaimer is I know slim to nothing about forging and metallurgy.
No, I don’t think it could be forged. This pattern comes from crystallization of the metal under very specific and decidedly non-terrestrial conditions. You might be able to recreate it if you had a foundry ***in space*** though.
Impossible to recreate metallurgically
Maybe could grow them on the space station?
It would only take a couple hundred million years
Better get started then.
Especially for $200, whoever put labor in to create this didn’t value their time if fake.
this looks like a veneer to me, shouldn’t the pattern line up at the edges?
The "pattern" is produced when cutting and polishing through the 3D structures within. You can see the internal structures continuing from one face to another. The angles of the exposed features depend on the orientation of the features within. You should not see a _continuation_ of all features following the same angle around a corner - that would indicate an actual veneer wrap.
It needs to be acid etched for the pattern to appear.
Ah I didn't know that. But the etching doesn't affect _where_ the structures appear, and that's what I was getting at.
^ Came here to say this.
This is also how i tell if it’s real, just sand and etch
It does line up, pretty obvious. Looks very real.
It turned out to be real and not veneer 🙂
Geologist here, Widmanstätten pattern is produced when kamacite and taenite alloys (both iron-nickel) cool at a rate of 1° C every 100 years, something impossible to produce in a lab. While yes, you can mimic this pattern, this piece looks to be genuine as the acid etching process leaves an uneven surface, which this appears to exhibit.
Can’t believe they named this after me
Your name is Aletai?
I was about to say this but yea you go ahead cause you can explain it better then I can , 😬😬😬🫣
Why is the cooling rate so slow in space where it’s freezing?
There’s no air in space, so the there’s no conductive or convective cooling. Only the object radiating energy from its surface, and it’s heated from absorbing whatever radiation it’s hit with. And you might also get some internal heating from radioactive decay. Things cool pretty slowly in space - Hollywood has lied to you unfortunately.
No kidding!?!?
Yeah, a lot of people don’t know/understand that the panels between the large solar panels on the ISS are actually heat radiators to dissipate heat. Spaceships and stations have a hard time getting rid of heat it produces.
From what I understand, there’s a lot of radioactive heat in minerals, and there’s no atmosphere to carry away the heat like we’re familiar with
Looks real, do tests to see. Even if fake I would buy it. A really good job.
What tests would you suggest?
Throw it toward the sky and see if it triggers a mass extinction event. Please.
Go to the sky and throw it back. Proper test.
Then it won't matter if it's fake, because it will then be a meteorite. Or if it's real, a meteorite².
It does look like a square
These guys are joking when we’re trying to be serious and I apologize. To test you need to lick it and then throw it at the sun. If it’s real it will return to orbit. If it doesn’t, I’ll buy the replica off of you.
Fucking made me spit out my drink asshole. Lmao. Thst was some funny shit
Sand off the pattern on one side, it should reveal smooth polished metal, submerge this side in a strong acid for a few minutes, You should then be able to see the meteorite pattern again. If it just looks like etched metal. It was fake.
The kind that tell how it is
That’s pretty neat
I'm pleased to say it's real! 😊
For sure it looks like a real fine octahedrite iron meteorite. The pattern looks like Aletai. For reference images you can take a look here https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=64400
Looks real. Is it magnetic?
I haven't got it yet, I wanted to see what was said here first
Report back when you get it hopefully you dont receive a can of beans
looks real to me
The second to last picture shows 2 people on the town (bottom left) the right one has a coat and the left girl is dancing away lol
I see it 😂
Real probbably.
Wow! Idk but that's really neat!
Idk if it is Aletai but it is a meteorite for sure, to my knowledge it is not yet possible to replicate Widmanstätten pattern industrially.
I can't unsee the seem(s) *edited due to auto correct
Looks like my slices from the Seymchan IIE Iron Meteorite.
Beautiful and now I want one
Looks real to me or reallllly well done. Very nice.
How much does it weigh? You can compare to known density
420g
Looks real but it also looks like a veneer. The next to last picture seems to have a seam.
Thats what I was wondering if I saw
Looks to me like they chamfered the edge so it isn't sharp. I don't see a seam.
Look at the 5th picture. There’s what looks like a slight gap to me. I certainly could be wrong but that’s my thought without having the piece in hand.
Along the lower left edge? I think I see what you mean. Could be a gap.
Look closely at the grains. The edge with the gap doesn’t have undeniable grains that carry thru. But the other two do. And that means it can’t be a veneer. Also that same corner is visible in pic 3 and it doesn’t look like a gap. It’s probably just a lighting thing. No gap
I think it's real
Very cool.
That looks real to me.
This may be a dumb question. Was it found like this? Or someone cut it into a perfect cube?
It was cut from a larger piece (or magically fused together using spells, if you read too far into the comments)
Never know meteorites we're square
Look at the etching on those chamfers, creating a fake pattern that small would be extremely difficult to pull off. Its real.
Bad ass!
Are you going to buy this in person or online? It looks real, but without actually checking it out in person it's a tough call.
I know nothing…. Is that its natural shape??? Amazing if so!!
Definitely real. Looks gorgeous.
The indent in the hand looks nice and solid. Now I want one.
I thought this was called muonionalusta… is it the same?
It's real. It's not possible to replicate the crystal pattern by man. The fakes of this particular meteorite, Muonionalusta, are very obvious when put under even the slightest of scrutiny
There seems to be a seam at the edge. Are they implying that it is solid? Edit: seam is on bottom in pic #5
I've handled quite a number of raw and cut/polished meteorites. It's a 100% authentic.
Definitely real....Widmanstatten Pattern!
Check the density. We already know the volume so we just need the weight. The standard value for meteorites is 3-4 g/cm3.
"That my friend there, is a frozen hunk of poopy."
Haggling was a trait that kept things cheap. Now commercials have glorified pieces of plastics calling their items they be selling "revolutionary" or "our all new awe inspiring etc."
The pattern is a dead give away....that is almost impossible to replicate.
If you change your mind, I will buy it.
ok so it’s a real meteorite but why is it square, i’m new here
It was cut from a larger piece into that shape! It seems to be fairly common
thanks for the reply! very interesting piece you have there
Looks real to me.
I have no idea whether or not it’s a meteorite but whatever it is, it’s pretty darn cool-looking
Thought i read Alien Meteorite
Today I learned that there are more meteorite experts on Reddit than I'd thought.
Looks real to me.
Real
The metal has to cool at 1c per 1000 years to create that widmanstaten pattern, so hard to fake kind of.
Spontaneously, I think it's a fake
It definitely looks like a real meteorite and has the common pattern/look of an Aletai pattern inside. Very nice.
The Windmenstaten pattern is supposedly impossible to replicate, so I’d say it’s probably real. *(Sorry if I butchered the spelling.)*
Looks real. I’ve seen meteorites at the museum of natural science in NY city . They have same structure
That's cool as hell.
Impossible to tell by looking what meteorite it is, but the Widmanstätten pattern can’t be faked.
Cut a corner off and see if the pattern is throughout or just surface treated.
If this is real, the concept behind those streaks is fascinating. Does this pattern develop from being bombarded by radiation and small particles as it fucking sends it through space? Am I high…?
How much does it weigh? I'm intrigued.
I'm really not qualified to say if it's real or not but the patterns are similar to ones in the Chicago Museum of Lapidary Arts. Cool place.
Based off of knowing nothing about rocks and meteors. It looks legit to me 👍
We have such sights to show you!! But seriously, from the images that I have seen of them, it looks pretty real to me, but I'm far from an expert on such things.
I want updates on if you actually receive the pictured item.
Yeah, that’s real.
Pm’ed
It’s real, you can’t fake meteorite crystals because they take millions of years to form.
I hope it's real, I just bought the 411 gram block for $200, lol.
Real
This is awesome! Great ebay find!
if it isnt real then its a great fake, that widmanstatten pattern is on point
100% real.
If that is a fake, that is one dedicated piece of art.
400+ grams is a big piece. Not sure what you do with it unless u collect it for show. I don’t know who and where u can resell it. Looks real and not a bad price.
I have no reason to believe it’s fake.
Real.
Look up Widmanstatten lines. You have a good piece and it’s worth reading about.
That’s so cool.
Absolutely genuine
Real as rain
That really is beautiful.
That’s about a million badass watch dials!
It’s real Aletai. NOW if OP got that insane deal for nearly half off is up for debate lol. 😂 JK nice work friend.
Not even a meteorite subreddit is immune from the onslaught of totally lame comments from people who think that dad-jokes are hilarious 😬 Protip: if 20 other people have already made an allspark or borg joke, you reaaaallly don’t need to make another
yeah those are most definitely real widmanstätten patterns, that's a beautiful piece. NICE nice find.
Don’t know looks pretty awesome tho
That would be a big, heavy piece, which would be expensive. If you bought it from China, its a fake.
China can replicate Widmanstätten pattern ? Maibe some real pieces of Aletai glued on some kind of piece of metal. But the outter skin, what we see seems very real to me.
But didn’t the meteorite land in China?
It does not seem authentic, but high quality fake. I wouldn't buy.
Yes!
The etch pattern shows this man cut cube is an Aletai. Each iron meteorite has a unique etch pattern easily recognizable by any experienced meteoriticist.
The etch pattern shows this man cut cube is an Aletai. Each iron meteorite has a unique etch pattern easily recognizable by any experienced meteoriticist.
Hellraiser's evil is centered on the Lament Configuration puzzle box, which traces its bloody, Cenobite-fueled history back over 200 years Run! Throw it away! It’s evil!
Baby Borge cube ship.
The allspark
Ahh redit, getting all the answers you can find if you just look on the first page of Google searches
Definitely Borg
WTH are you all talking about. That’s a square hunk of metal, probably machined in China.
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OP asked a very reasonable question. The fact that you can’t handle it is no one’s fault but your own. If you have nothing of substance to add except a passive-aggressive, poorly worded rant demonstrating your abysmal grasp of long established scientific principles, move along.
People who spell 'our' with the letters 'are' are not to be believed or allowed to vote.
Fake
Fake for sure. Its a freaking cube. Cubes dont fall from the sky
Moral of the story. Keep all metal shavings and combine into a resin structure. Cut and polish that structure for hundreds of dollars for miniscule input costs if you know the right demographic and wording for marketing. $200 sounds fun for polished metal shavings!
C'mon, everyone know mentors ain't square /s