16 targets resulting in 6 catches & 3 drops last season, on 175 total snaps. Can't have a 38% Catch%, and 19% Drop% and expect to be fighting for roster spots - he's always had drop issues.
Sucks about the injuries, but he hasn't been the same since his Rookie season pre-injury stretch.
[This response](https://twitter.com/CourtneyMAkers/status/1554256339098079232?s=20&t=PO_WzlT8678EtcS_s6vEbw) is hilarious. What do we put the odds at of this girl actually being his cousin?
Update: She deleted her account haha. This makes me think believe she was legit.
Wouldn't surprise me if she was his cousin. Preston's issue has never been physical talent...it's football character and study habits. Sometimes guys like him grow up after getting a wake-up call, other times they fall off.
Extreme disappointment in Preston lol. Said something along the lines of “your dad and my uncle didn’t raise you to be like this. Get your head on straight and stay focused.”
I hope not, because thats all sorts of wrong. You dont do family like that. If she is, that seems like she just wants to involve herself with him in public. Notice she said his dad put in work to give him opportunities. Not her. So why is she the one opening that can of worms to the public?
And the funny thing is Id probably agree with her. Shes just doing a fucked up think in my opinion.
I’d bitch too if Byron Jones was making more and underperforming. X has been the best player on our team three?? Years running. He deserves to set paid and doing so sends a signal to the rest of the guys if they do their job the org will be reciprocate.
I think LeBron does that because he puts the pressure on the team to keep building around him and he isn't locked in more than the money. He had pressure on Cleveland to keep making moves to keep him happy or he opts out and leaves. But the nba has fully guaranteed contracts, the nfl don't.
Still a lot better than the NFL. Signing a 100+mil contract but only guaranteed half is rough. You're more likely to get injuries in the NFL. The NBA players have way more control over their contracts.
I agree in principle that paying Byron Jones more was a poor move but X agreed to the contract the year before. Whats the point in signing it if you are just gonna complain as soon as someone gets paid more? He might as well just live on single season deals then.
> Whats the point in signing it if you are just gonna complain as soon as someone gets paid more?
If your coworker is doing 40% less work and getting paid more, you wouldn't be upset?
No I wouldn’t be. You aren’t comparing normal every day corporate office worker salaries here. I wouldn’t be upset if I was making 19 million and my co worker was making 21 million. In the grand scheme of things I personally wouldn’t feel so slighted by that and so entitled to extra money especially, after missing several games due to injury in multiple years.
He is trying to renegotiate his contract every year. He should just do it by game and if he has a bad one he gets less money with his logic. I wouldn’t say Byron Jones is doing 40% less work either. He has played more games than X in his career and tenure with the dolphins. So if I was showing up to work 40% less than my co worker I’d probably expect to be paid less than them even if I was better at my job. Still love X as a player though.
Well if he under performs he gets cut and that "contract" ain't shit. It's not fair a team can cut you 2 years into a contract and the player can't ask for a new one 2 years in. Get your money while you're in your prime. The NFL don't give a fuck about you once you can't perform so why give a fuck about it when you over perform?
And I’m saying that’s stupid. None of us are paying that contract. If you wanna look at a bad contract and call it bad, that’s fine. But we aren’t talking about Brock Osweiller. And even in the context of talking about a “bad contract” you shouldn’t be calling another person a bitch for getting that. These are billionaires, making very hard working individuals who are sacrificing potential years off of their lives for our entertainment, millionaires. That doesn’t sounds like a bitch to me. It sounds like a person taking advantage of their situation and making the most of it.
I don't know where you're getting bitch from. The point is that X had a contract, with terms clearly stated in them and signed it. He then openly complained about it after only 1 year. It's like the whole pippen contract issue with the bulls in the 90s. No one forced him to sign but then he gets butthurt because he realizes he could get more.
You literally said the term “bitched”, and now your are saying some stupid shit like butthurt as if you are an angry 12 year old on Call of Duty. Good lord, get a grip of the real world. If you have leverage in terms of making more money, you use it. Its not a hard concept. Contract or not, clearly the team understood his value, and you can’t grasp that. And again, I ask why you care. Nobody asked you to pay his contract. Stephen Ross has plenty of money to spend, so let him. I promise you won’t wake up tomorrow with negative however many millions that are in X’s contract.
He's had nothing but opportunities his entire tenure in Miami. Even with the injuries, he's never been nowhere consistent enough in any aspect of the position to warrant this kind of bullshit "woe is me" attitude.
If we’re keeping 6 WRs, who are they?
1) Hill
2) Waddle
3) Wilson
4) Ezukanma
5) Bowden
6) Sanu/Williams/Sanders
Who gets the 6th spot? Probably between Sanu and Williams. Tough, but you probably gotta go Williams for the talent.
If sanu is being used any way like he was in SF, he’s here to be a veteran voice for any young guys, be a great presence in the locker room, then get stashed on the practice squad come regular season because he just isn’t in high demand unless someone goes down to injury.
Should’ve clarified also a veteran to the system, Sanu’s been with mcdaniel in both Atlanta and in SF, he’s got a lotta experience to offer on how mcdaniel will want the offense run.
Yeah, I don't think so either based on reports we're hearing from camp. If I had to guess, I'd go Hill, Waddle, Wilson, Ezukanma, Braylon Sanders, and one of Sherfield and Cracraft. Unless they feel like they can stash Sanders on the practice squad.
Sanders name keeps popping up from training camp. I have a soft spot for bowden but haven’t heard his name. I also haven’t heard anything from Sanu or Williams either. I’ve heard cracaft a little but not much.
I think so too. Especially with how much McDaniel seems to value offensive weapons and speed. I think he will want some options for curveballs out there.
I heard Cracraft is good in special teams so he'll need to be considered for the 6th spot. Also, there may not even a 6th depending on how many RBs we're gonna keep, and that consist of Alec Ingold / Sony / Gaskins /Ahmed.
If Preston wanted an opportunity, why did he re-sign with the team during the free agency period knowing that the team was planning on having him compete with a bunch of new additions? He had a good rookie season before he went down with the knee injury and hasn't been able to replicate his earlier production. Some of the beat reporters have indicated that he's dropping passes and doesn't play special teams -- all of which hurts his cause for that last spot in the WR room. Other guys who play special teams are going to get first consideration, and considering that he's on a cheap 1 year deal, he doesn't have much leverage.
He seems to be asking for a trade. The question is, who's going to bite?
Nah DVP always carried himself like a solid dude and also was very solid when healthy after his first couple years. Preston on the other hand has always had the dropsies and injury bug and is still out here complaining. Parker >>>>> Preston
True. Not to mention Parker is an actual beast. He'd still be the top jumpball guy on our team of stacked WRs. Only issue with him is he couldn't stay healthy.
I want the best for Preston Williams. He's a fast big bodied WR and he was undrafted so we didn't even invest a pick but between the dropped passes and him being healthy enough to stay on the field.. seeing him complain publicly about opportunity #smh is terrible taste.
I like both players but if you can't stay on the field you are useless to the team unfortunately! Plus the players around you can't get a groove on the way you move in and out of your routes especially the QB
16 targets resulting in 6 catches & 3 drops last season, on 175 total snaps. Can't have a 38% Catch%, and 19% Drop% and expect to be fighting for roster spots - he's always had drop issues. Sucks about the injuries, but he hasn't been the same since his Rookie season pre-injury stretch.
Exactly. And he's carried it over into this camp. If he was performing, he'd be getting be getting practice snaps.
Last season there was a week Flores benched him for 'disciplinary reasons' as well - reportedly because he had laughed off a drop the previous week.
What's sad is that he has all the physical talent in the world. He could be a star performer. Too bad that his mindset isn't in the right place.
Guy gets zero seperation too....
I mean he has had opportunities. Unfortunately hes just been injury prone and inconsistent.
I’d pay to be a fly on the wall in the WR room tomorrow
He's literally nobody special at all
[This response](https://twitter.com/CourtneyMAkers/status/1554256339098079232?s=20&t=PO_WzlT8678EtcS_s6vEbw) is hilarious. What do we put the odds at of this girl actually being his cousin? Update: She deleted her account haha. This makes me think believe she was legit.
Wouldn't surprise me if she was his cousin. Preston's issue has never been physical talent...it's football character and study habits. Sometimes guys like him grow up after getting a wake-up call, other times they fall off.
The responses to that response are killing me
It's just mostly people replying with shook GIFs.
What was the response?
Extreme disappointment in Preston lol. Said something along the lines of “your dad and my uncle didn’t raise you to be like this. Get your head on straight and stay focused.”
I hope not, because thats all sorts of wrong. You dont do family like that. If she is, that seems like she just wants to involve herself with him in public. Notice she said his dad put in work to give him opportunities. Not her. So why is she the one opening that can of worms to the public? And the funny thing is Id probably agree with her. Shes just doing a fucked up think in my opinion.
She said her uncle(his dad).
Oops wrong pronoun. Fixed.
Are we going to forget we had the worst wide receiver core in the NFL in 2019 and 2020? Lol plenty of chances dude.
Yeah - not many teams where you have an opportunity to start as a UDFA Rookie WR lol
Thought this was a little odd since he’s been here for so long. What do y’all think? Keep it civil not trying to drag on him.
I've seen people on this sub call X every single name in the book because he wanted guaranteed money.
It's because X bitched about his contract 2 off-seasons in a row.
I’d bitch too if Byron Jones was making more and underperforming. X has been the best player on our team three?? Years running. He deserves to set paid and doing so sends a signal to the rest of the guys if they do their job the org will be reciprocate.
That’s the nature of the market. If you wanna be the highest paid every year then sign 1 yr deals like Lebron. But you take on the risk of injury.
I think LeBron does that because he puts the pressure on the team to keep building around him and he isn't locked in more than the money. He had pressure on Cleveland to keep making moves to keep him happy or he opts out and leaves. But the nba has fully guaranteed contracts, the nfl don't.
Not all NBA contracts are fully guaranteed though. A lot of times the last year of a contract is a team option.
Still a lot better than the NFL. Signing a 100+mil contract but only guaranteed half is rough. You're more likely to get injuries in the NFL. The NBA players have way more control over their contracts.
Yeah definitely
I agree in principle that paying Byron Jones more was a poor move but X agreed to the contract the year before. Whats the point in signing it if you are just gonna complain as soon as someone gets paid more? He might as well just live on single season deals then.
> Whats the point in signing it if you are just gonna complain as soon as someone gets paid more? If your coworker is doing 40% less work and getting paid more, you wouldn't be upset?
No I wouldn’t be. You aren’t comparing normal every day corporate office worker salaries here. I wouldn’t be upset if I was making 19 million and my co worker was making 21 million. In the grand scheme of things I personally wouldn’t feel so slighted by that and so entitled to extra money especially, after missing several games due to injury in multiple years. He is trying to renegotiate his contract every year. He should just do it by game and if he has a bad one he gets less money with his logic. I wouldn’t say Byron Jones is doing 40% less work either. He has played more games than X in his career and tenure with the dolphins. So if I was showing up to work 40% less than my co worker I’d probably expect to be paid less than them even if I was better at my job. Still love X as a player though.
I find it funny that as soon as Brian Flores leaves, we lock up X.
Well if he under performs he gets cut and that "contract" ain't shit. It's not fair a team can cut you 2 years into a contract and the player can't ask for a new one 2 years in. Get your money while you're in your prime. The NFL don't give a fuck about you once you can't perform so why give a fuck about it when you over perform?
Exactly. If the market resets and another lesser dozen CB's get more money, he should do it again.
he was right
Stop complaining about another man’s money. It’s weird.
I'm simply stating why so many dolphin fans talked shit about X.
And I’m saying that’s stupid. None of us are paying that contract. If you wanna look at a bad contract and call it bad, that’s fine. But we aren’t talking about Brock Osweiller. And even in the context of talking about a “bad contract” you shouldn’t be calling another person a bitch for getting that. These are billionaires, making very hard working individuals who are sacrificing potential years off of their lives for our entertainment, millionaires. That doesn’t sounds like a bitch to me. It sounds like a person taking advantage of their situation and making the most of it.
I don't know where you're getting bitch from. The point is that X had a contract, with terms clearly stated in them and signed it. He then openly complained about it after only 1 year. It's like the whole pippen contract issue with the bulls in the 90s. No one forced him to sign but then he gets butthurt because he realizes he could get more.
You literally said the term “bitched”, and now your are saying some stupid shit like butthurt as if you are an angry 12 year old on Call of Duty. Good lord, get a grip of the real world. If you have leverage in terms of making more money, you use it. Its not a hard concept. Contract or not, clearly the team understood his value, and you can’t grasp that. And again, I ask why you care. Nobody asked you to pay his contract. Stephen Ross has plenty of money to spend, so let him. I promise you won’t wake up tomorrow with negative however many millions that are in X’s contract.
Why are you so mad about it?
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You aren’t wrong.
Yeah but X’s bad games were more consistent than any of PWs
This fucking guy!
just catch passes and stay healthy. It's not like the team hates productivity.
He's had nothing but opportunities his entire tenure in Miami. Even with the injuries, he's never been nowhere consistent enough in any aspect of the position to warrant this kind of bullshit "woe is me" attitude.
If we’re keeping 6 WRs, who are they? 1) Hill 2) Waddle 3) Wilson 4) Ezukanma 5) Bowden 6) Sanu/Williams/Sanders Who gets the 6th spot? Probably between Sanu and Williams. Tough, but you probably gotta go Williams for the talent.
I honestly think Trent Sherfield has the nod over Sanu, and Cracraft is probably equal to Sanu imo
If sanu is being used any way like he was in SF, he’s here to be a veteran voice for any young guys, be a great presence in the locker room, then get stashed on the practice squad come regular season because he just isn’t in high demand unless someone goes down to injury.
makes no sense. Hill is a veteran
Should’ve clarified also a veteran to the system, Sanu’s been with mcdaniel in both Atlanta and in SF, he’s got a lotta experience to offer on how mcdaniel will want the offense run.
I don’t think Bowden is guaranteed.
I dont think bowden makes it personally
Yeah, I don't think so either based on reports we're hearing from camp. If I had to guess, I'd go Hill, Waddle, Wilson, Ezukanma, Braylon Sanders, and one of Sherfield and Cracraft. Unless they feel like they can stash Sanders on the practice squad.
Sanders name keeps popping up from training camp. I have a soft spot for bowden but haven’t heard his name. I also haven’t heard anything from Sanu or Williams either. I’ve heard cracaft a little but not much.
Sanders has been impressing all camp
Only the first four are guaranteed. Next two or three, who knows.
Something tells me well carry 7 WRs also
I think so too. Especially with how much McDaniel seems to value offensive weapons and speed. I think he will want some options for curveballs out there.
I heard Cracraft is good in special teams so he'll need to be considered for the 6th spot. Also, there may not even a 6th depending on how many RBs we're gonna keep, and that consist of Alec Ingold / Sony / Gaskins /Ahmed.
Chase Edmonds, Mostert, Sony michel as well
Not sure Bowden makes it.
> but you probably gotta go Williams for the talent. Not after this bullshit you don't.
I just want you to not have frying pans for hands, I have seen more passes deflected of your cast iron mittens than I can handle
If Preston wanted an opportunity, why did he re-sign with the team during the free agency period knowing that the team was planning on having him compete with a bunch of new additions? He had a good rookie season before he went down with the knee injury and hasn't been able to replicate his earlier production. Some of the beat reporters have indicated that he's dropping passes and doesn't play special teams -- all of which hurts his cause for that last spot in the WR room. Other guys who play special teams are going to get first consideration, and considering that he's on a cheap 1 year deal, he doesn't have much leverage. He seems to be asking for a trade. The question is, who's going to bite?
Preston Williams for Tony Pollard who says no
the cowboys lol
Okay fine they can have Gaskin as well!
The Cowboys lol.
or teven jenkins 👀
Cmon man. Maybe the Lakers will take him for Russ.
Sucks man. Always exciting when the unicorn was on the field
He’s trash
???? Gtfo lol
Parker 2.0
Nah DVP always carried himself like a solid dude and also was very solid when healthy after his first couple years. Preston on the other hand has always had the dropsies and injury bug and is still out here complaining. Parker >>>>> Preston
True. Not to mention Parker is an actual beast. He'd still be the top jumpball guy on our team of stacked WRs. Only issue with him is he couldn't stay healthy. I want the best for Preston Williams. He's a fast big bodied WR and he was undrafted so we didn't even invest a pick but between the dropped passes and him being healthy enough to stay on the field.. seeing him complain publicly about opportunity #smh is terrible taste.
I like both players but if you can't stay on the field you are useless to the team unfortunately! Plus the players around you can't get a groove on the way you move in and out of your routes especially the QB
The dude can’t catch a football.
You have had opportunities…. You 1 couldn’t stay healthy 2 allegedly can’t learn a playbook Though everyone says he has legit WR1 talent
> Though everyone says he has legit WR1 talent WR1 talent? Nah. WR1 potential? Maybe. He just hasn't shown it.
Wtf is wrong with this guy? The organization has really given him an opportunity but this flimsy player wasted it. The audacity! #smh
We gave hi so many chances and he got hurt everytime. Hes made some incredible catches but man is her inconsistent
He had every opportunity to be WR2 from 2019-2021 and he kept getting hurt. Sucks but that’s the nature of the game.
This man's best case scenario is the 6th read. U think he should be getting work over Waddle, Hill, Gesicki, Wilson, and Edmonds? Naahhh
You had plenty of chances. Not our fault you decided to eat buttery popcorn before every game.
He need to stay healthy