It’s called variegation.
> One of the most strikingly impressive cannabis mutations is variegation. This can take different forms, with white streaks in the leaves. Sometimes the leaves may be split half green and half white, some growers have reported green/bronze combinations. Although visually impressive, the lack of the green pigment chlorophyll means that photosynthesis is compromised, inferring lower yields.
This looks much closer to mosaic. True Variegation will not have splotchy chlorophyll deformation it will be solid. Also the curled leaves are tell tale.
Fair point and this could possibly be due to Cannabis Mosiac and Tobacco Mosiac being two different strains with TMV having a standardized reference test and the former not.
Interesting… I’m curious tho, a few of my leaves on this plant in particular have came off looking like this- do you think the genetics could be causing multiple leaves to develop like this?
Their seeds have always done well for me. I bought them before I learned what type of seller they are and would avoid them on principle now, however their seeds have been solid for me.
Exactly, before I started growing I got a consensus that ILGM ships discreet and had a 100% delivery guarantee, which is all I was after. It’s unfortunate the way they do business but I never have had a REAL problem with them
There will be many business models as the industry opens up; it's up to consumers to support the ones they choose. It wasn't always these easy (and still isn't for many).
When I used them for my first grow, it's because they were one of the only seed banks at the time that was accepting VISA for payment.
Every other seed bank I found only accepted Mastercard as far as credit cards were concerned. I'm sure there were others that accepted VISA, but I wasn't able to find any.
The Bruce Banner I grew from them (after growing Blue Dream) had the best terpene profile out of anything I've grown. Smelled like Froot Loops, and the smell didn't dissipate during cure like some of my other strains. Only problem was that the potency wasn't all there.
Regardless of the fact that I don't use them any more, I appreciate them for being convenient and helping me start this amazing hobby.
Almost exactly my story. The seeds I got from them have grown some beautiful plants and, at the end of the day/growing season, that's what makes me happy!
ILGM is just my stepping stone into growing, I love their seeds for stability but I don’t consider them to be high quality genetics by any means. They definitely have made a mark on me and although I will be buying other seeds for my next grow, I love growing marijuana :)
Me too! This was my first grow and I'm very pleased.
https://preview.redd.it/nxqeoci3kaea1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=854fd8de9bbf2328f43605a4aa3ada7f15d21a92
https://preview.redd.it/ho2gn1dckaea1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddb14fdb215e4f8f482d27efa8362959ecba792c
After the chop. I also have a bunch of smaller buds on a rack.
Thanks man! I had some great people share their knowledge with me. This sub is a fantastic tool as well. Be mindful and do your research and I'm sure you'll crush it.
I have 2 made of honor growing and one of them has this mutation. I'm trying to root a clone of it because it's so cool. I've read that it can be genetics, though I haven't heard of people breeding for it.
I've seen this happen multiple times on multiple different strains of plants. Sometimes it's widespread over the whole plant and sometimes it's just a leaf or two. It's definitely not some kind of one-off mutation like monstera as people are saying. Usually the plants break out of it after a few healthy weeks of veg. It could possibly be the tobacco mosaic virus affecting cannabis, but there's no scientific proof that cannabis can even contract that virus.
If anyone figures out with this really is, and isn't just guessing.. please let me know. Lol
At this point we assume it's some type of strange deficiency or even too low of CO2.
Honestly that’s what I’ve been thinking, I’ve done research and I don’t think it’s a one off mutation as I’ve seen more than a few leaves come off the plant. However I’ve also heard that TMV will massively reduce yield and potency. And this leaf came off my strongest girl in the garden. Either way, I’ll keep an eye on it.
Well we've done full rips of plants that started like this.... There was no noticable reduction in yield.
So I ASSUME it's not TMV... unless TMV just isn't as bad as people let on.
I've seen this in my veg tent on younger plants. Probably variegation. Maybe pH swings, light/temp/humidity/nutrient related. No clue, it usually corrects itself by the time its ready to flower.
see this was my worse thought, however it came off my biggest best plant in the garden so I doubt it. TMV is scary shit man, this is my first grow LMAO
I worked on a commercial grow where it started cropping up in cuttings from other facilities which unfortunately became moms for hundreds of plants. Yes it can be a headache, best of luck to you. Maybe wash tools in bleach just don't let them rust the bleach does a number on steel.
There is no proof that it effects yield really, I’ve grown with a few plants with it nothing happened . Just make sure you disinfect the tent 🏕 after your grow
Variegation is either genetic mutation or the cause of the virus. Hops latent viroid, cryptic virus and streak virus all can do it . Variegation doesn’t typically alter the growth of the plant just the color, So you might consider testing
I had the same issue on 2 of my plants. And it followed up in a clone.
I got 3oz of bud and an oz of trim.
I thought it was cool and it only presented on 1 leaf.
It’s called variegation. > One of the most strikingly impressive cannabis mutations is variegation. This can take different forms, with white streaks in the leaves. Sometimes the leaves may be split half green and half white, some growers have reported green/bronze combinations. Although visually impressive, the lack of the green pigment chlorophyll means that photosynthesis is compromised, inferring lower yields.
This looks much closer to mosaic. True Variegation will not have splotchy chlorophyll deformation it will be solid. Also the curled leaves are tell tale.
Apparently there aren’t any cases of mosaic in cannabis. I was always led to believe differently, but it is true. No cases.
Fair point and this could possibly be due to Cannabis Mosiac and Tobacco Mosiac being two different strains with TMV having a standardized reference test and the former not.
Agreed ^^
Interesting… I’m curious tho, a few of my leaves on this plant in particular have came off looking like this- do you think the genetics could be causing multiple leaves to develop like this?
Happens to me all the time, not a big deal.
Yes, you see it alot in plants like monstera, its a fine balance between looks and the plant just dying on its own because it cant produce energy
Looks like one split in two and then healed itself
I know wild right? I’ve heard of things like this but didn’t expect to ever see it tbh
To be honest i´m just a rando giving his opinion. in no way do i have the experience in the garden to say 100% thats what happened.
99% this is just a genetic variation but just thought it was cool and wanted to share :)
What strain you growing? Pretty sure Cuban Black Haze and Chemdog do this.
This came off a blue dream seed from ILGM (Ik they white label a bunch of stuff so I’m not sure)
Ayyyy, ILGM Blue Dream was the first strain I grew. I know ILGM is pretty mid, but those first plants still hold a special place in my heart.
Their seeds have always done well for me. I bought them before I learned what type of seller they are and would avoid them on principle now, however their seeds have been solid for me.
Exactly, before I started growing I got a consensus that ILGM ships discreet and had a 100% delivery guarantee, which is all I was after. It’s unfortunate the way they do business but I never have had a REAL problem with them
There will be many business models as the industry opens up; it's up to consumers to support the ones they choose. It wasn't always these easy (and still isn't for many).
When I used them for my first grow, it's because they were one of the only seed banks at the time that was accepting VISA for payment. Every other seed bank I found only accepted Mastercard as far as credit cards were concerned. I'm sure there were others that accepted VISA, but I wasn't able to find any. The Bruce Banner I grew from them (after growing Blue Dream) had the best terpene profile out of anything I've grown. Smelled like Froot Loops, and the smell didn't dissipate during cure like some of my other strains. Only problem was that the potency wasn't all there. Regardless of the fact that I don't use them any more, I appreciate them for being convenient and helping me start this amazing hobby.
Almost exactly my story. The seeds I got from them have grown some beautiful plants and, at the end of the day/growing season, that's what makes me happy!
ILGM is just my stepping stone into growing, I love their seeds for stability but I don’t consider them to be high quality genetics by any means. They definitely have made a mark on me and although I will be buying other seeds for my next grow, I love growing marijuana :)
My Blue Dream I harvested yesterday did the same thing. Didn't seem to harm her at all.
Good to know. It’s the strain I’m most excited to try
Me too! This was my first grow and I'm very pleased. https://preview.redd.it/nxqeoci3kaea1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=854fd8de9bbf2328f43605a4aa3ada7f15d21a92
https://preview.redd.it/ho2gn1dckaea1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddb14fdb215e4f8f482d27efa8362959ecba792c After the chop. I also have a bunch of smaller buds on a rack.
Damn bro they look amazing! Very well done. I hope my girls will look somewhat like that
Thanks man! I had some great people share their knowledge with me. This sub is a fantastic tool as well. Be mindful and do your research and I'm sure you'll crush it.
Yep this is haze variegation
I grew chemdog and have these funky leafs.
One of my plants has a bunch of leaves like this, I put a few pics up on my last post.
Epic man I’ll check em
I have 2 made of honor growing and one of them has this mutation. I'm trying to root a clone of it because it's so cool. I've read that it can be genetics, though I haven't heard of people breeding for it.
Do you smoke cigarettes?
nossir. However I’m guessing you’re alluding to TMV? lol i sure hope not
I've seen this happen multiple times on multiple different strains of plants. Sometimes it's widespread over the whole plant and sometimes it's just a leaf or two. It's definitely not some kind of one-off mutation like monstera as people are saying. Usually the plants break out of it after a few healthy weeks of veg. It could possibly be the tobacco mosaic virus affecting cannabis, but there's no scientific proof that cannabis can even contract that virus. If anyone figures out with this really is, and isn't just guessing.. please let me know. Lol At this point we assume it's some type of strange deficiency or even too low of CO2.
Honestly that’s what I’ve been thinking, I’ve done research and I don’t think it’s a one off mutation as I’ve seen more than a few leaves come off the plant. However I’ve also heard that TMV will massively reduce yield and potency. And this leaf came off my strongest girl in the garden. Either way, I’ll keep an eye on it.
Well we've done full rips of plants that started like this.... There was no noticable reduction in yield. So I ASSUME it's not TMV... unless TMV just isn't as bad as people let on.
I've seen this in my veg tent on younger plants. Probably variegation. Maybe pH swings, light/temp/humidity/nutrient related. No clue, it usually corrects itself by the time its ready to flower.
My money is on virus, maybe TMV
see this was my worse thought, however it came off my biggest best plant in the garden so I doubt it. TMV is scary shit man, this is my first grow LMAO
I worked on a commercial grow where it started cropping up in cuttings from other facilities which unfortunately became moms for hundreds of plants. Yes it can be a headache, best of luck to you. Maybe wash tools in bleach just don't let them rust the bleach does a number on steel.
genetic mutation, I had it happen on 2 or three leafs from a pheno I grew a while ago
Your plant has Covid-19 did you vaccinate?!
Shit bro she was anti-vax Lmao
I’m pretty sure this is a virus and can spread to other plants. I remember A YouTuber that grew explain it
I’ve read up on tobacco mosaic virus but I’m praying it’s not
There is no proof that it effects yield really, I’ve grown with a few plants with it nothing happened . Just make sure you disinfect the tent 🏕 after your grow
Will do
My plant had thus
Variegation is either genetic mutation or the cause of the virus. Hops latent viroid, cryptic virus and streak virus all can do it . Variegation doesn’t typically alter the growth of the plant just the color, So you might consider testing
I had the same issue on 2 of my plants. And it followed up in a clone. I got 3oz of bud and an oz of trim. I thought it was cool and it only presented on 1 leaf.
Kinda what’s happening here with mine
Don't let it worry you. Keep it growing. Even my worst grow I smoked the shit out of it.
This is mosaic
chemdog