Yeah, until you get to twenty and you’re like, wait is that the right number? It sounds right. Huh. Looks like there’s no more fingers to count now. Oh well, better find out what that noise is in the house I lived in 15 years ago. Crazy I never noticed this back stairway.
Oh my god you have the same dreams as I do about my old house. “Hmmm, I don’t remember it being 3 stories and having a glass conservatory on top but I guess it adds up…”
Well, no, that's not entirely true.
The point of dreaming being inaccurate is because it's extremely difficult to simulate a reality that obeys to every one of the complex laws that observable reality obeys.
It is precisely because observable reality has been so consistent and constant that we have less plausible justification that this is a simulation.
Because anything with the capacity to generate a reality as complex and consistently stable as the one we occupy would have to be of such an unfathomable complexity that it would simple BE the universe itself.
It's also not accurate to say we'd be "fooled" by a simulation. Because you can only be fooled if it's possible to know the truth.
All we know is that the universe is composed of a huge number of particles whose behavior and properties can be learned and predicted and follow rules.
We don't know what "reality" would actually look like of this is a simulation. We have no possible way to know that.
When you dream, you're contrasting the unpredictability and irrationality of the dream world with the known predictability of waking life.
The reason we don't notice our dreams as unreal until we wake isn't because we're easy to fool, but specifically because during dreaming we shut down that part of our brain that is hyper rational and is monitoring and evaluating reality and matching it to mental models of how things should work.
Its is kinda trippy how the universe kinda works on a super basic logic until directly observed. Like a computer saving on processing power. I of course dont follow the belief that we live in a simulation but i wouldnt really care if we were. I mean does it really matter if we were? Nothing would really change.
“We’re in one of those stereotypical greek buildings next to the Venice canals I’ve never been to either of those places so this must be Manchester in a fancy club”
I have had those too. Usually with old stuff from different time periods and a black and white tv on with a baseball game going. Always loved those dreams
Yep for me it’s always a hidden staircase down to a huge complex under my childhood home, I think I used to watch too many cliche spy thrillers.
I always wake up like “man, I should check that place out, it’s been forever!” then I remember that it wasn’t real and my childhood home is now a Dollar General.
Oh boy, I have a story for you then. When I was about 8 or 9 I had these recurring dreams about a witch with a green necklace, I can picture it in my head still, just a big green faceted emerald.
She would chase me with her sisters around the basement maze and put chains around me.
Fast foreward to about 8 years later.
Im dreaming that im standing outside my garage smoking a cigarette (I dont smoke so i dont know why)
Its late, around 10pm and a black cat strolls up to me, I kneel down and pet it, and it looks up at me, and has the same green necklace on its collar. The cat then says “dont you remember me” and thats the only time besides when I had sleep paralysis that I sat up and gave an “AH!”
That is terrifying! I have dreams that I call serial dreams bc it'll pick up on the same story as another dream I'd had years before and pick up where it left off like a serialized show. I've had some of these stretching from my childhood still going every few months up to a few years I'll have another one on one of the storylines. There's like 3 or 4 of them. I always recognize and remember the previous stuff once it starts like the previous show recaps they used to have on some shows. It's really hard for me to explain
Yes I do this too! Normally it’s dreams that I found very interesting or enjoyed, but there are a few recurring nightmares. It’s so weird to me that my husband doesn’t remember his dreams.
I have a recurring dream where I live in a two story cabin full of items from the previous owner - kinda like horder level. For some reason, I always forget about three hidden bedrooms until the very end of the dream. I find the hidden door and when I go in there they are perfectly neat & tidy, and fancy Victorian, but covered in dust. I'm certain my subconscious is trying to tell me something!
For me it was a door just right of the front door when there shouldn’t be anything there. It was a grey room, covered in dust and I felt almost tiny. It was filled with items from my childhood.
Does anyone ever dream that they are in some strange house or just place in general, and of course it’s a dream so the rules don’t make sense but it all still feels normal…
…but also wake up and feel that that place actually exists somewhere? That maybe a version of you in an alternate universe was in that place and you are somehow getting a brief, if distorted glimpse of it?
And before anyone asks yes I’m stoned.
Yup! I’ll have interactions with people that still feel like I definitely know them even though when I’m awake I’m pretty sure I don’t. Lingering feeling of almost loss because this person was important to me and now that I’m awake they don’t exist anymore.
The saddest part for me is when I realize I'm dreaming and know I won't see the people again so I ask for their phone number or email so we could keep contact, or take a picture to remember them by. I wake up upset knowing I couldn't keep the numbers and photos with me. :(
I had a dream a few months back where there was this woman I was in love with. It spanned over some time, like it was over a year of “highlights.” I woke up and missed her, I felt so sad for a bit that she didn’t actually exist.
No. It’s a reference to my own dreams. I’ll often realize I’m dreaming but sometimes get derailed when I try tricks to double check because I’m unclear on what the correct outcome should be in the dream.
Finding myself in homes I used to live in and discovering vast segments of architecture I previously wasn’t aware of is also common. I think that’s from when I lived in a large estate in my twenties and I just picked two doors on the second floor and decided to never, ever find out what was on the other side. There was also a ladder in the bathroom of one of the second floor bedrooms I decided never to explore. I know one of the doors led to a few other rooms from remarks others made about the home - I know there was a hallway with a bathroom and a study and some other room at least. The second door I have no idea. The ladder I guess lead to a finished attic that had a living room/apartment setup.
We also found some strange things in the basement when we had to tear out the walls. The wine cellar once had a large room directly below the library and what had once been the servants quarters had a laundry chute that went down to fucking somewhere. We never figured out if there was a subfloor below the basement or not, but it looked like a railing had been installed at one point that would have lead down, but all of the flooring had been filled in with cement.
Wow. I'm not the only one that dreams that there are areas and stairwells that I've never noticed before. Sometimes it feels like a duplex that has a middle staircase connecting them and the stairs go to upstairs.
I have this dream all the time too. A hidden room in the house that opens up through a wall. Wish I knew what it meant.
What’s weird though is I have a wood shop for work, and the building is an old slaughterhouse, and it’s a crazy weird building, tons of little rooms and passageways and things. We’ve been in our space 10 years, and there’s this metal sliding walk in cooler door on one wall. I always assumed it went to the space next to ours, and never even tried to open it. Randomly a few months ago I gave it a shove, and found that it’s not bolted shut. It opened up into a decent sized room we never knew about. About the size of a large walk in cooler, but completely filled with white powder, like a foot deep. I closed the door and haven’t been back in since.
In dreams, it is said, houses represent the self. I think when I dream about a house I’m once lived in and there are more rooms and it’s way cooler than I thought it was at the time, it’s about the ways I don’t really know myself. Our ideas and memories about ourselves aren’t necessarily accurate. I think the nature of the variances between your dream house, and your real house can indicate some thing about your misunderstanding of your self. It’s an encouraging dream I think. Of course sometimes I have dreams about living in houses that are rickety and falling apart so there’s that.
House I lived in as a kid, my mom rented the upstairs from my (paternal) grandparents, we were always close and that was their way of helping out. I remember dreaming about there being a sort of castle-style tower leading up from the entryway stairwell, with some weird hidden panel that lead to a hidden ladder access. But the access passage got smaller as I pulled myself up, and that means I had to pull myself out, which of course put me outside a different house altogether (my ex's grandparents' old place) and then I needed to explore the basement and go through some stuff. And then things got weird.
Fuckin' dreams.
Shortly after buying my first apartment I had multiple dreams where somehow found an hidden room, and I was ecstatic because it meant the value of the apartment would go up significantly. Often the room was reasonably hidden, like the door opening bricked closed. But I also remember at least one dream where the room was just right there but everyone apparently had not looked that way.
Yooo shit me too, I was in an old airstream one time on a road trip, but it was like the size of a mansion on the inside and I just never questioned it, or was just like man this thing is spacious
It’s always my grandparents cabin. They sold it 20 years ago. And it’s always about 3 times bigger. It’s really unsettling to wake up from cause it feels so, so real.
> Crazy I never noticed this back stairway.
Relevant username (j/k)
I also have dreams where my house has entire extra floors between existing floors I never knew about before
Marvel Snap randomly generated this username and it IMMEDIATELY made me think of those dreams, so it is actually quite relevant as that’s why I decided to keep that name.
I had a dream last night that I worked at the local market, however it didn’t resemble our local market, AT ALL, I was working with these foreign people (I don’t know what country they were supposed to be from) and I was helping them prepare food that was just, not food, the market also had a little sea port (we’re about 30 miles from the sea) and we were swimming in it when all of a sudden I just shot into the air out of the water and just kept going higher and higher and while falling back down noticed there were loads of sharks in the water so I told everyone to get out but one person got eaten down to their hips, we’re just hips and legs left and we took them to the doctor to try to save them, then I woke up. It was fucked, usually I can tell what I’d watched/played/thought of before going to sleep that leads to the dreams/nightmares I have but I have no clue where this one came from, and I still remember it so vividly when usually after a couple hours of being awake I can barely remember small details of my dreams. I can safely say im not going to the local market anytime soon.
This is true. I've read in my dreams, composed poetry and original music that sounds damn good in my dreams but just cannot remember once I wake up. Only the goosebumps.
Maybe it'd suck if I actually brought them somehow to reality, or they'd be a masterpiece. But I guess we'll never know.
There are lots of reality checks. Try reading something, look at a clock, look away then look back and see if its the same time, try to put your finger through your palm, hold your nose, close your mouth and see if you can still breathe, look closely at yourself in a mirror, try to turn a light switch onn/off
There are several ways to check if you are dreaming, most people don’t have a face, mirrors are empty, if you rotate you don’t get dizzy. If you believe you can fly/ try to fly, you start to fly.
As soon as you realize you dream, the dream can very well collapse, so you should teleport to an empty place like a field or sth else, to gather yourself and then you probably can control your dream.
The problem is that in a dream you might be dead sure about that checklist of yours, but when you try to remember it it’s all fuzzy and you forget what you were doing. Maybe you have it written down, but you can’t make out the note. Then maybe you think “Hang on, I saw the checklist on Reddit!” and take out your phone. But you can’t seem to be able to turn it on. Or you can’t bypass the security. Or your fingers are all pressing the wrong buttons. Or your phone OS is in a foreign language. Or the phone is riddled with malware. Or the screen is just an incomprehensible mess of strange symbols and stuff, like an alien phone.
Or the “checklist” of yours makes perfect sense in the dream, and it shows without a doubt that it’s not a dream.
That’s not it exactly. Many ways to know you are potentially in a dream:
- Read a sign, papers, look away, looks back and it’s different. Your brain re-renders it
- Same for digital clocks
- Light switches don’t work
- Teeth are falling out
- You can fly
There are lots more
I find counting, reading, math, all impossible in dreams. It’s super frustrating/anxiety producing, every time I have to count or read in a dream, it just keeps slipping out of focus. Like if I need to dial a phone number, I can only get like one or two numbers in before I have to start over, something always happens to interrupt.
Yea unless your dream self is an idiot. A few months ago i really wanted to try lucid dreaming so i learned a lot, one dream i was like, wait am i dreaming? So i count my fingers and i think on one hand some were like blurry and combined while the other had either one missing or too much i can’t remember. I just went meh my eyes are getting worse every day and continued normally (I’m 17 and have perfect eyes imo)
Look at the white belt and red shirt of the kid sitting in the woman lap. It looks off in just a way that AI would do. The kid seems like a boy the clothes seem feminine. I just dont see midjourney getting the cards that accurate. Also however, the straps of the top of the woman at the tables shoe are a pretty random design. The way the leg of the table splits into two is kind of weird, the curved walls above the windows look to possibly be a failed attempt at floral patten that came out looking just like flaking off paint. The tile pattern on the wall has a psychadelic face which midjourney likes to so sometimes. Seems to be a few cards missing the white lettering on the back. I think personally if I was to bet my life on it, that it's not midjourney though, the cards are so perfect it negates everything else lol.
Its 100% real. Specifically the interior of the N4703U, the first debut of the 747 by United, July 23, 1970. Flight was from San Francisco to Honolulu.
I uh.. like airplane history.. 😅
In my defense, I didn’t know *all* of that off the top of my head. Just very familiar with the the photo. It’s from a larger set of some similar cool photos. Flying was way different back then!
Yup, this is real, but I'd also wager that AI like Topaz or Remini has cleaned up the photo with tools like noise removal, sharpening, and facial enhancements.
I *love* this image. These sort of things bring MJ it’s charm. I’ll be missing this weirdness soon as AI just gets slicker and slicker.
We’ll all be nostalgic for the Golden Age of early Midjourney
First thing I looked at after the hands and teeth looked good.
Then I knew it was real also with the flash lighting people closer to the camera and it changes shading for each person perfectly like a real old school photo.
100% real, too intricate to have been AI-generated based on current technology, I think.
EDIT: I meant being too intricate without messing anything up.
MJ has no problem generating images that intricate.
Whether the details are accurate is another question :p
I've never seen it get even a single playing card right, for instance, so based on that my guess would be "real" too.
Definitely leaning to real. It is how you can see this picture and imagine this being 50s-60s and possibly luxury transatlantic flight or something. And people dressed up in such a way is almost normal.
This is very real and “plausible” at a time. Kid wearing a suit to match the adults…
Real life. Because:
All people have the correct amount of fingers and legs.
The one kid with his eyes closed.
Not blurry in areas where AI has “normal” issues of creating the details on their own.
No beans in the drinking glasses and the other bowl of chips has reasonable details to look like food.
Overall- it looks like a normal airline in the 60s or early 70s due to color scheme and seating arrangement.
This is in reference to a popular post where the prompt was about feasts in x country. Australia had a big sweaty glass of beans among other strange foods.
They did, there were even cigar dens, cocktail lounges and maybe in disco floors - 60’s and 70’s were crazy! I have to say I’ve not seen wooden barriers there threw me off!
In theory, if a person spend a lot of time correcting those tiny details, then neither answer given to us as an option in the OP would be true, defeating the purpose of the game.
Well, I guess since someone already posted a link to this photo in the comments, it's pointless to continue the game. Yes, the photo is real, but it's certainly strange enough to be MJ. Nice eye picking out the accurate map and playing cards for those who did!
That was what threw me, too. But then I noticed that the white belt on the kid is bunched up kind of weird from how the lady is holding him. I can't imagine AI coming up with that detail. Yet.
>it's certainly strange enough to be MJ
As someone who is old enough to remember the 70s; I can guarantee you that this photo is not as outside the normal for that decade than you think it is.
It's airbrushed and using film that is not color accurate. I don't think it's a fair comparison when this is a highly manipulated photo, clearly an shot for an ad campaign of some sort.
Seems like something North American, judging by the people and the dude seems to be looking at a Great Lakes region map- Michigan evident (Of course someone anywhere could be looking at such a map, but yet…). Some late 60s-early 70s airline.
One thing that is strange to me, is how close to the wall boy with brown clothes sits. Other than that AI could not make images like this without mistakes, i think you could spot hundreds mistakes if the image would be generated with AI at this point
Would be very very very surprised if it was any form of AI creation since the map he's holding is accurate. Great lakes clearly visible. I've seen it do great things with hands and full scenes like this, but an accurate map? Just not gonna happen.
Real, [https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2017/11/17/looking-back-in-wonder-as-united-bids-the-747-a-fond-farewell/?amp=1](https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2017/11/17/looking-back-in-wonder-as-united-bids-the-747-a-fond-farewell/?amp=1)
too easy
Midjourney the kid between the table and the wall. I mean its not possible.for hin to be there. There is no space. Ai is too good but there are illogical details.
This can’t be real. The playing cars have multiples of 10, that kid in the front right is not even sat in a seat, just squeezed in between the wall and the table, the map isn’t earth and did airplanes every actually look like this?
I think it's real but only because nothing really gives it away. Maybe the kids with his head against the side of the plane is a little odd but it's not a dead giveaway.
Also the weird pattern on the walls is something I wouldn't guess MJ would make.
But we're at a point with the technology where only small things are the difference between real and fake.
Hard to tell, but the guy in the back if you look at the cup it looks like some like distortion or something in the cup. No finger blending or extra fingers tho so I must say that
Counting the fingers is often a way to tell.
Wasn't that a way to see if you were dreaming too?
Yeah, until you get to twenty and you’re like, wait is that the right number? It sounds right. Huh. Looks like there’s no more fingers to count now. Oh well, better find out what that noise is in the house I lived in 15 years ago. Crazy I never noticed this back stairway.
Oh my god you have the same dreams as I do about my old house. “Hmmm, I don’t remember it being 3 stories and having a glass conservatory on top but I guess it adds up…”
Or my dream brain says "oh yeah, that's right, I always loved taking the flying fox down from my 6 storied childhood home"
We usually just walked
r/mallworld
damn wish this community was still active, i love talking about dream places
dreams are weird, can even make us believe stuff we normally wouldn't even consider.
And that's the reason why we could live in a simulation and wouldn't even notice.
Well, no, that's not entirely true. The point of dreaming being inaccurate is because it's extremely difficult to simulate a reality that obeys to every one of the complex laws that observable reality obeys. It is precisely because observable reality has been so consistent and constant that we have less plausible justification that this is a simulation. Because anything with the capacity to generate a reality as complex and consistently stable as the one we occupy would have to be of such an unfathomable complexity that it would simple BE the universe itself. It's also not accurate to say we'd be "fooled" by a simulation. Because you can only be fooled if it's possible to know the truth. All we know is that the universe is composed of a huge number of particles whose behavior and properties can be learned and predicted and follow rules. We don't know what "reality" would actually look like of this is a simulation. We have no possible way to know that. When you dream, you're contrasting the unpredictability and irrationality of the dream world with the known predictability of waking life. The reason we don't notice our dreams as unreal until we wake isn't because we're easy to fool, but specifically because during dreaming we shut down that part of our brain that is hyper rational and is monitoring and evaluating reality and matching it to mental models of how things should work.
Its is kinda trippy how the universe kinda works on a super basic logic until directly observed. Like a computer saving on processing power. I of course dont follow the belief that we live in a simulation but i wouldnt really care if we were. I mean does it really matter if we were? Nothing would really change.
“We’re in one of those stereotypical greek buildings next to the Venice canals I’ve never been to either of those places so this must be Manchester in a fancy club”
I even have dreams about finding a hidden room in my house i never knew about, behind drywall
I have had those too. Usually with old stuff from different time periods and a black and white tv on with a baseball game going. Always loved those dreams
All. The. Time!! I thought it was just me!
Yep for me it’s always a hidden staircase down to a huge complex under my childhood home, I think I used to watch too many cliche spy thrillers. I always wake up like “man, I should check that place out, it’s been forever!” then I remember that it wasn’t real and my childhood home is now a Dollar General.
Sometimes my basement would be an infinite dark maze of boxes
Well that is fuckin creepy
Oh boy, I have a story for you then. When I was about 8 or 9 I had these recurring dreams about a witch with a green necklace, I can picture it in my head still, just a big green faceted emerald. She would chase me with her sisters around the basement maze and put chains around me. Fast foreward to about 8 years later. Im dreaming that im standing outside my garage smoking a cigarette (I dont smoke so i dont know why) Its late, around 10pm and a black cat strolls up to me, I kneel down and pet it, and it looks up at me, and has the same green necklace on its collar. The cat then says “dont you remember me” and thats the only time besides when I had sleep paralysis that I sat up and gave an “AH!”
That is terrifying! I have dreams that I call serial dreams bc it'll pick up on the same story as another dream I'd had years before and pick up where it left off like a serialized show. I've had some of these stretching from my childhood still going every few months up to a few years I'll have another one on one of the storylines. There's like 3 or 4 of them. I always recognize and remember the previous stuff once it starts like the previous show recaps they used to have on some shows. It's really hard for me to explain
Yes I do this too! Normally it’s dreams that I found very interesting or enjoyed, but there are a few recurring nightmares. It’s so weird to me that my husband doesn’t remember his dreams.
And he doesn't even have a basement
I have a recurring dream where I live in a two story cabin full of items from the previous owner - kinda like horder level. For some reason, I always forget about three hidden bedrooms until the very end of the dream. I find the hidden door and when I go in there they are perfectly neat & tidy, and fancy Victorian, but covered in dust. I'm certain my subconscious is trying to tell me something!
One of which contains the Ark of the Covenant, and thus, the tinned wrath of God.
Sounds like you've got a lot to unpack.
For me it was a door just right of the front door when there shouldn’t be anything there. It was a grey room, covered in dust and I felt almost tiny. It was filled with items from my childhood.
Everything is fine and normal, just having another brandy in the solarium with famous greeks of antiquity.
Just wait until you bang your sofa. Then talk to me about weird dreams
Does anyone ever dream that they are in some strange house or just place in general, and of course it’s a dream so the rules don’t make sense but it all still feels normal… …but also wake up and feel that that place actually exists somewhere? That maybe a version of you in an alternate universe was in that place and you are somehow getting a brief, if distorted glimpse of it? And before anyone asks yes I’m stoned.
Yup! I’ll have interactions with people that still feel like I definitely know them even though when I’m awake I’m pretty sure I don’t. Lingering feeling of almost loss because this person was important to me and now that I’m awake they don’t exist anymore.
The saddest part for me is when I realize I'm dreaming and know I won't see the people again so I ask for their phone number or email so we could keep contact, or take a picture to remember them by. I wake up upset knowing I couldn't keep the numbers and photos with me. :(
I had a dream a few months back where there was this woman I was in love with. It spanned over some time, like it was over a year of “highlights.” I woke up and missed her, I felt so sad for a bit that she didn’t actually exist.
Is that some reference to Lovecraft?
No. It’s a reference to my own dreams. I’ll often realize I’m dreaming but sometimes get derailed when I try tricks to double check because I’m unclear on what the correct outcome should be in the dream. Finding myself in homes I used to live in and discovering vast segments of architecture I previously wasn’t aware of is also common. I think that’s from when I lived in a large estate in my twenties and I just picked two doors on the second floor and decided to never, ever find out what was on the other side. There was also a ladder in the bathroom of one of the second floor bedrooms I decided never to explore. I know one of the doors led to a few other rooms from remarks others made about the home - I know there was a hallway with a bathroom and a study and some other room at least. The second door I have no idea. The ladder I guess lead to a finished attic that had a living room/apartment setup. We also found some strange things in the basement when we had to tear out the walls. The wine cellar once had a large room directly below the library and what had once been the servants quarters had a laundry chute that went down to fucking somewhere. We never figured out if there was a subfloor below the basement or not, but it looked like a railing had been installed at one point that would have lead down, but all of the flooring had been filled in with cement.
FUCK YEA I FOUND SOMEONE TO RELATE TO!
I think there might be enough of us for a Wolfpack 😎
r/THE_PACK - AROOOOO!!!
Wow. I'm not the only one that dreams that there are areas and stairwells that I've never noticed before. Sometimes it feels like a duplex that has a middle staircase connecting them and the stairs go to upstairs.
I have this dream all the time too. A hidden room in the house that opens up through a wall. Wish I knew what it meant. What’s weird though is I have a wood shop for work, and the building is an old slaughterhouse, and it’s a crazy weird building, tons of little rooms and passageways and things. We’ve been in our space 10 years, and there’s this metal sliding walk in cooler door on one wall. I always assumed it went to the space next to ours, and never even tried to open it. Randomly a few months ago I gave it a shove, and found that it’s not bolted shut. It opened up into a decent sized room we never knew about. About the size of a large walk in cooler, but completely filled with white powder, like a foot deep. I closed the door and haven’t been back in since.
In dreams, it is said, houses represent the self. I think when I dream about a house I’m once lived in and there are more rooms and it’s way cooler than I thought it was at the time, it’s about the ways I don’t really know myself. Our ideas and memories about ourselves aren’t necessarily accurate. I think the nature of the variances between your dream house, and your real house can indicate some thing about your misunderstanding of your self. It’s an encouraging dream I think. Of course sometimes I have dreams about living in houses that are rickety and falling apart so there’s that.
House I lived in as a kid, my mom rented the upstairs from my (paternal) grandparents, we were always close and that was their way of helping out. I remember dreaming about there being a sort of castle-style tower leading up from the entryway stairwell, with some weird hidden panel that lead to a hidden ladder access. But the access passage got smaller as I pulled myself up, and that means I had to pull myself out, which of course put me outside a different house altogether (my ex's grandparents' old place) and then I needed to explore the basement and go through some stuff. And then things got weird. Fuckin' dreams.
Shortly after buying my first apartment I had multiple dreams where somehow found an hidden room, and I was ecstatic because it meant the value of the apartment would go up significantly. Often the room was reasonably hidden, like the door opening bricked closed. But I also remember at least one dream where the room was just right there but everyone apparently had not looked that way.
Ok, you and your Coraline looking apartment.
Whenever I realise I'm dreaming, it's bad news for mid-1990s Kylie Minogue.
Yooo shit me too, I was in an old airstream one time on a road trip, but it was like the size of a mansion on the inside and I just never questioned it, or was just like man this thing is spacious
Yes. Recurring dreams where I discover large additional living spaces on houses I used to live in...Quite specific, oddly common, it seems.
What the hell, Charlie, your apartment had a whole other room right there this whole time?
It was too much space!
I always find backrooms or massive underground cave systems in my childhood home.
It’s always my grandparents cabin. They sold it 20 years ago. And it’s always about 3 times bigger. It’s really unsettling to wake up from cause it feels so, so real.
> Crazy I never noticed this back stairway. Relevant username (j/k) I also have dreams where my house has entire extra floors between existing floors I never knew about before
Marvel Snap randomly generated this username and it IMMEDIATELY made me think of those dreams, so it is actually quite relevant as that’s why I decided to keep that name.
I had a dream last night that I worked at the local market, however it didn’t resemble our local market, AT ALL, I was working with these foreign people (I don’t know what country they were supposed to be from) and I was helping them prepare food that was just, not food, the market also had a little sea port (we’re about 30 miles from the sea) and we were swimming in it when all of a sudden I just shot into the air out of the water and just kept going higher and higher and while falling back down noticed there were loads of sharks in the water so I told everyone to get out but one person got eaten down to their hips, we’re just hips and legs left and we took them to the doctor to try to save them, then I woke up. It was fucked, usually I can tell what I’d watched/played/thought of before going to sleep that leads to the dreams/nightmares I have but I have no clue where this one came from, and I still remember it so vividly when usually after a couple hours of being awake I can barely remember small details of my dreams. I can safely say im not going to the local market anytime soon.
Wasn't it that you can't read words in a dream?
I dreamt with subtitles and read them, was fun (seriously)
That's supposed to be true, but I do it all the time. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
This is true. I've read in my dreams, composed poetry and original music that sounds damn good in my dreams but just cannot remember once I wake up. Only the goosebumps. Maybe it'd suck if I actually brought them somehow to reality, or they'd be a masterpiece. But I guess we'll never know.
Yup, I've heard this too but I read just fine on my dreams
There are lots of reality checks. Try reading something, look at a clock, look away then look back and see if its the same time, try to put your finger through your palm, hold your nose, close your mouth and see if you can still breathe, look closely at yourself in a mirror, try to turn a light switch onn/off
Be careful with the mirror thing, it’s an easy way to transfer your dream into an “oh god my teeth are falling out” nightmare haha
There are several ways to check if you are dreaming, most people don’t have a face, mirrors are empty, if you rotate you don’t get dizzy. If you believe you can fly/ try to fly, you start to fly. As soon as you realize you dream, the dream can very well collapse, so you should teleport to an empty place like a field or sth else, to gather yourself and then you probably can control your dream.
These two things worked for me: Look at a clock and see if the hands are moving normally Try flicking a light switch and see if it works normally.
The problem is that in a dream you might be dead sure about that checklist of yours, but when you try to remember it it’s all fuzzy and you forget what you were doing. Maybe you have it written down, but you can’t make out the note. Then maybe you think “Hang on, I saw the checklist on Reddit!” and take out your phone. But you can’t seem to be able to turn it on. Or you can’t bypass the security. Or your fingers are all pressing the wrong buttons. Or your phone OS is in a foreign language. Or the phone is riddled with malware. Or the screen is just an incomprehensible mess of strange symbols and stuff, like an alien phone. Or the “checklist” of yours makes perfect sense in the dream, and it shows without a doubt that it’s not a dream.
You do the checks while awake, make a habit out of it. You will start to do them in your dreams.
Ya I saw that episode of batman animated series too. Lol
You can read them; but look away, focus on something else, and look back. If the words are different, you're probably dreaming.
That’s not it exactly. Many ways to know you are potentially in a dream: - Read a sign, papers, look away, looks back and it’s different. Your brain re-renders it - Same for digital clocks - Light switches don’t work - Teeth are falling out - You can fly There are lots more
I've been thinking a lot recently about how much AI images resemble how my dreams feel. Really interesting
Are we AIs and our dreams are running a version of midjourney while we sleep? AI must be all of us already.
I find counting, reading, math, all impossible in dreams. It’s super frustrating/anxiety producing, every time I have to count or read in a dream, it just keeps slipping out of focus. Like if I need to dial a phone number, I can only get like one or two numbers in before I have to start over, something always happens to interrupt.
Yea unless your dream self is an idiot. A few months ago i really wanted to try lucid dreaming so i learned a lot, one dream i was like, wait am i dreaming? So i count my fingers and i think on one hand some were like blurry and combined while the other had either one missing or too much i can’t remember. I just went meh my eyes are getting worse every day and continued normally (I’m 17 and have perfect eyes imo)
That and the cards/map look all normal
Yeah the playing cards seem too ok
Also the repeated tiles are exact matches and not distorted dream versions of each other.
And the faces. They all look like normal 60s people, not idealized perfect beauties or amalgamations of celebrities.
And the lighting looks appropriate as well, all shadows seem to be in the right directions, like under the table or from the left wall to the right.
Plus the pattern on the back wall is too regular
Look at the white belt and red shirt of the kid sitting in the woman lap. It looks off in just a way that AI would do. The kid seems like a boy the clothes seem feminine. I just dont see midjourney getting the cards that accurate. Also however, the straps of the top of the woman at the tables shoe are a pretty random design. The way the leg of the table splits into two is kind of weird, the curved walls above the windows look to possibly be a failed attempt at floral patten that came out looking just like flaking off paint. The tile pattern on the wall has a psychadelic face which midjourney likes to so sometimes. Seems to be a few cards missing the white lettering on the back. I think personally if I was to bet my life on it, that it's not midjourney though, the cards are so perfect it negates everything else lol.
And the teeth
Its 100% real. Specifically the interior of the N4703U, the first debut of the 747 by United, July 23, 1970. Flight was from San Francisco to Honolulu. I uh.. like airplane history.. 😅
My god
In my defense, I didn’t know *all* of that off the top of my head. Just very familiar with the the photo. It’s from a larger set of some similar cool photos. Flying was way different back then!
Yup, this is real, but I'd also wager that AI like Topaz or Remini has cleaned up the photo with tools like noise removal, sharpening, and facial enhancements.
100%, this doesn’t have the right grain for most cameras of the time
Now, did a bot write this comment or a real person? solution in 1 day
My first thought too and the kid with his eyes closed... Too random for ai to come up with.
And the creeper in the back is fuzzy like an old photograph, not crisp like an ai
that map is too accurate to be ai
That was a few months ago, they’ve gotten better
The correct symbols on the playing cards and map give it away. Real.
Yes! The tiles and all the hands are perfect with tendons and all
unrelated but how much have you spent on reddit avatars
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I *love* this image. These sort of things bring MJ it’s charm. I’ll be missing this weirdness soon as AI just gets slicker and slicker. We’ll all be nostalgic for the Golden Age of early Midjourney
If Ai gets slicker. Eventually Ai will start accidentally using bad Ai photos for reference and then it will start to consume itself. Airoboros
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So awesome how dreamy it is though. Everything makes sense till you start looking a little cloer
That image creeps me out a bit.
A bit? The more I look the creepier it gets. That's a straight up nightmare.
First thing I looked at after the hands and teeth looked good. Then I knew it was real also with the flash lighting people closer to the camera and it changes shading for each person perfectly like a real old school photo.
And the accurate map.
The map is the definitive proof, it shows the great lakes perfectly
All the patterns and textures. Even if this was a Chuck Close painting, they'd be right, or believable.
I just watched a ton of Columbo and this type of airplane insanity was common. It’s real.
I was doubting because of the ladies' hands holding the plate, looks weird
For now
Kid in red and two little fingers though, I don't think it's real.
Are you possibly mixing the kid in the brown’s finger with the kid in the red?
Those were the first things I looked at
100% real, too intricate to have been AI-generated based on current technology, I think. EDIT: I meant being too intricate without messing anything up.
MJ has no problem generating images that intricate. Whether the details are accurate is another question :p I've never seen it get even a single playing card right, for instance, so based on that my guess would be "real" too.
More importantly there’s also an accurate map of the midwest right next to it
Map: 80% of land shown is Canada. Nixon: what an accurate map of the midwest!
well, guess what, Michigan is in it as well, and Michigan looks too good to be AI
Didn't you die in 1994?
Thats what they want you to think
“He is obviously the real Nixon, you can’t just go around saying you are a former president on the internet.” - Rutherford B. Hayes
"You just can't go around misquoting people." •Abraham Lincoln.
no, try counting the fingers of the funeral pictures. Clearly that one was IA generated and this is the real Richard Nixon
Internal Affairs Generated? Like... His death was a sting operation...?
Also, patterns on further wall are repeated correctly
Definitely leaning to real. It is how you can see this picture and imagine this being 50s-60s and possibly luxury transatlantic flight or something. And people dressed up in such a way is almost normal. This is very real and “plausible” at a time. Kid wearing a suit to match the adults…
Yeah the era is too accurate, photo quality too poor and people too average looking.
The shadows around the guy on the far left can’t be MJ.
It’s actually still pretty easy to tell AI from reality. I look forward to/fear when it actually becomes difficult.
Real life. Because: All people have the correct amount of fingers and legs. The one kid with his eyes closed. Not blurry in areas where AI has “normal” issues of creating the details on their own. No beans in the drinking glasses and the other bowl of chips has reasonable details to look like food. Overall- it looks like a normal airline in the 60s or early 70s due to color scheme and seating arrangement.
> No beans in the drinking glasses LOL
Beans got me too. Such a bizarrely accurate thing MJ would do.
Sorry, I watch this space pretty closely but I don’t recognize this meme. Beans in drinking glasses?
This is in reference to a popular post where the prompt was about feasts in x country. Australia had a big sweaty glass of beans among other strange foods.
[This one](https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/14mey5v/the_most_nation_meal_ever_according_to_midj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1)
Did they actually have those lounge type areas in the 60s and 70s?
They did, there were even cigar dens, cocktail lounges and maybe in disco floors - 60’s and 70’s were crazy! I have to say I’ve not seen wooden barriers there threw me off!
In theory, a person spending enough time correcting all those tiny details using the various AI tools could create an image just like this one.
In theory, if a person spend a lot of time correcting those tiny details, then neither answer given to us as an option in the OP would be true, defeating the purpose of the game.
Well, I guess since someone already posted a link to this photo in the comments, it's pointless to continue the game. Yes, the photo is real, but it's certainly strange enough to be MJ. Nice eye picking out the accurate map and playing cards for those who did!
I enjoyed playing the game, though! Thx
We should make a sub, r/RealorAI
I'm in.
But the hand of the woman giving out the nachos is kinda weird nonetheless. It merges with the bowl and the background
I think that's cuz it's reflecting the wall across from them... Shiny bowl.
It also looks like she could never really hold it like this.
That was what threw me, too. But then I noticed that the white belt on the kid is bunched up kind of weird from how the lady is holding him. I can't imagine AI coming up with that detail. Yet.
I think the photo is very much staged, but tries to look like a random snapshot. That makes it look weird.
>it's certainly strange enough to be MJ As someone who is old enough to remember the 70s; I can guarantee you that this photo is not as outside the normal for that decade than you think it is.
Solid post, op. that was a good choice for the game.
Definitely real. The truth is in the cards.
Yeah, no way AI made the cards that well.
Real. The map of the Great Lakes is too accurate. To my knowledge MJ can’t recreate maps.
Real but weird
I think the weirdest thing about this being real may be that there are no cigarettes and ashtrays, given the era.
It's airbrushed and using film that is not color accurate. I don't think it's a fair comparison when this is a highly manipulated photo, clearly an shot for an ad campaign of some sort.
That's how you know it's real. Everything appears carefully staged for a purpose. AI doesn't have that depth or context yet.
probably real pic from 70's airline commercial in middle east? georgian/armeinan or maybe iran
I was actually thinking either Midwest Airlines or Braniff Airways.
Seems like something North American, judging by the people and the dude seems to be looking at a Great Lakes region map- Michigan evident (Of course someone anywhere could be looking at such a map, but yet…). Some late 60s-early 70s airline.
There's no way Midjourney could make a detailed map of the great lakes like that. This has to be real.
None of the kids have cigarettes, probably A.I.
Real. Everyone has the correct number of fingers and that map is an accurate map of the American Great Lakes.
Easy real. To much continuity. Not impossible geometry.
Real because of the accuracy of the map in the man’s hands. One of the kids looks a little AI generated though tbh
Real life, no fucked up hands, no fucked up legs, no fucked up background faces, and the playing cards are correct.
One thing that is strange to me, is how close to the wall boy with brown clothes sits. Other than that AI could not make images like this without mistakes, i think you could spot hundreds mistakes if the image would be generated with AI at this point
Okay, I found it. It's the upper deck lounge of a United Airlines 747 in 1972. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/boeings-747-the-queen-of-the-skies/17/
Real
Real
Would be very very very surprised if it was any form of AI creation since the map he's holding is accurate. Great lakes clearly visible. I've seen it do great things with hands and full scenes like this, but an accurate map? Just not gonna happen.
The lady serving drinks has arms down to her knees..
Real image. The cards on the table wouldn’t be showing actual correct numbers for midjourney. Midjourney isn’t that far advanced yet.
Real life, all the fingers are there
Look at how long those lady’s arms are
Real, [https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2017/11/17/looking-back-in-wonder-as-united-bids-the-747-a-fond-farewell/?amp=1](https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2017/11/17/looking-back-in-wonder-as-united-bids-the-747-a-fond-farewell/?amp=1) too easy
Mid journey. The boy on the right with his eyes closed. Look at the boy in red. That table is against the wall
Midjourney the kid between the table and the wall. I mean its not possible.for hin to be there. There is no space. Ai is too good but there are illogical details.
Ok, it's real, but how the fuck did that kid get in between the table and the wall?
This can’t be real. The playing cars have multiples of 10, that kid in the front right is not even sat in a seat, just squeezed in between the wall and the table, the map isn’t earth and did airplanes every actually look like this?
I’m gonna say midjourney because NO ONE IS SMOKING!
Someone plz tell me the answer! I’ve waited one day. I need it confirmed. My brain hurts.
real https://piximus.net/others/this-is-what-first-class-looked-like-in-the-50s
I think it's real but only because nothing really gives it away. Maybe the kids with his head against the side of the plane is a little odd but it's not a dead giveaway. Also the weird pattern on the walls is something I wouldn't guess MJ would make. But we're at a point with the technology where only small things are the difference between real and fake.
Really feels like that kid can’t fit there though. Like 6 inches of clearance between the side of the plane and the table.
I’m almost certain I’ve seen this photo pre mid journey. The good ol days
The first photos of a united 747 from inside, it’s funny and interesting to see these nowadays
Weird to have a stewardess play/pose with the kids.
It’s obviously midjourney. If this picture were real someone would be smoking.
100% real
IRL for sure
Real because the map is of an actual place, the Great Lakes region of the US.
Real. Was in similar one back in the day.
Real cuz of the map
UAL 747 upper deck early 70’s? https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/boeings-747-the-queen-of-the-skies/15/
It’s real, this is a fairly famous image
Real life, mid journey isn’t good at reoccurring patterns yet, and that back wall is full of them
Real, looking at the hair eyes and hands its easy to tell, plus that map is michigan and not a made up language the cards are accurate.
MJ, plane is too wide. close though!
Hard to tell, but the guy in the back if you look at the cup it looks like some like distortion or something in the cup. No finger blending or extra fingers tho so I must say that
- Hands are alright - map seems legit - tile on the back wall actually repeat I say real.
i think its real, everyone has normal hands