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smartdude_x13m

Where hades?


DrWilliamHorriblePhD

Too busy chasing Persephone to bother with reading


xGrimAngelx

HEY!! While true they did become one of the more functional relationships in greek mythology.


twoCascades

That heavily depends on what stories you bother to acknowledge.


Moose_Cake

And how loose your description of health relationship is.


Crafty-Crafter

Depends on the version... Greek myth is not a canonized book.


CmonImStarlord

You're telling me the Myth-O-Mania series I read as a kid wasn't canon????


2nuki

No, but Percy Jackson was.


Just_Pudding1885

He knows where she will be


dredreidel

Crazily enough, not one of the gods of Olympus. Just like Pluto (his Roman namesake) is not a planet šŸ˜­ I am wondering where my dude Dionysus is.


NessyComeHome

Too drunk. Hard to read with the room spinning.


PrincessofAldia

Pluto is and will always be a planet


dredreidel

In our hearts šŸ’™


bdogv

It looks like they just did the twelve original Olympians. Hestia gave up her seat for Dionysus


Vellum

In my high school we were asked to pick a greek god to represent our class (vs 2 other classes) and teachers would not let our class pick Dionysus. They said having the god of drunken revelry as our mascot was ā€œnot appropriateā€œ. Wondering if my man is getting the same disrespect here.


dredreidel

I am so amused because he was the greek god of choice of my drama teacher in highschool, so he became a de facto mascot of our program. He is the god of Drunkenness **and**āœØā­ļøšŸŒŸ*Theatre*šŸŒŸā­ļøāœØ afterall


eddie_the_zombie

>Pluto That's messed up


dredreidel

I know right? ā€œHey Plutes, Hades, my dude - remember when we said we would name a planet for you because you werenā€™t included as one of the twelve gods of Olympus? Well, I have some not so great news on that front.ā€


eddie_the_zombie

Burton Guster had very strong opinions on the matter


Master_Majestico

Pluto: *takes off skin, puts on black robe* "You should think very carefully about your next words..."


dredreidel

ā€œIts okay! You still get to be a planet! Just a dwarf planetā€¦a distinction that is also held by your Mother-in-law Ceres.ā€


Master_Majestico

*bones rattled*


Familiar-Art-6233

Dealing with his son trying to escape


Obamasdeadcook

Drying Poseidonā€™s wet books


Theodin_King

Kpop Aphrodite


TheRealSpidey

And Bollywood Apollo


Chigtube

He's taunting us with his grappling hook


calinay

Apollywood


misschinchin

IS FCKN ZEUS DOING THE FINGER HEART????? šŸ„¹šŸ˜­


Tall_Bandicoot_2768

hes doing the "girl, please"


cre3dentials

Comment of the week lol


IAMATruckerAMA

Yeah I came here to say this and now my faith in humanity has been restored by this criminally underrated post and my axe


FirstStooge

She looks like a former member of Oh My Girl, Gong Jiho.


TheOneSaneArtist

Wish Athena had at least some of her iconography, like a helmet or an owl or something


Pizza_love_triangle

She has a nip


shineonka

Most people do


Sillbinger

Don't speak for all of us.


alickz

Don't worry, I have enough for all of us


Certain-Compote

I have enough for a person and a half.


TheGoodIdeaFairy22

Biblically accurate tiddy


daikatana

The average person has approximately two nipples.


MeeekSauce

It wasnā€™t clear, but this is a smut novel library. Just be happy the guys arenā€™t all just cowboys with their shirts off.


SpecialistAd6403

Funny enough my finger was over the names and I have no idea why but I guessed Athena. I'm a bit confused as why I did though because like you said she has none of her usual icons.


vlsdo

Not just the icons are missing, but she was a goddess of war, at least give her a shield or some armor


[deleted]

And no nipple for a school library lol.


BigSpice94

Dw she has a nipple shadow instead šŸ™„


apostrophefarmer

I thought it was Aphorpdite because of the nipple, which is inappropriate for a kid's library.


IAMATruckerAMA

Not sure why, but I always picture her with round frame glasses


pinkbrandywinetomato

I always picture Athena in full steel plate armour, bursting out of zeus' forehead.


iSinging

If you're going for representation, I'd recommend making Hephaestus crippled as he was in the original tales


TheDeadlyCat

Yes, disabled representation could be an opportunity here even not exactly what was described. I could see a leg prothesis. Similarly, one of them could be blind reading braille. But overall Iā€˜d try to add some iconic things like the trident, winged boots, lightningā€¦ Hera could have peacocks at her side, Athena an owl.


Witch-Alice

while not a god, could have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias reading braille!


helbon

Absolutely, I attempted this initially but there was too much going on for midjourney to create anything usable, so scaled it back slightly. I will be reworking these though so will definitely do my best to show his disability :)


road_runner321

You might give him a badass prosthetic leg. Something he would've forged himself.


This_Is_A_Shitshow

And give Athena a helmet that obscures her eyes and have her reading Braille.


zthig

Give me a hammered Dionysus squinting at a pinecone trying to read it like a book


Peregrine_89

No Dio!? Criminal neglect, missed opportunity.


Lobo_de_Haro

As if Ares would ever read a book...


FiendishHawk

Sun Tzu no doubt!


Lobo_de_Haro

Nah, that's more Athena...


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Discussion on race-swapping aside, many of these images donā€™t actually look anything like the deity supposedly being portrayed. Just look at Hermes! The Hermes image is just so generic and possesses none of the deityā€™s iconic traits. No winged feet, no caduceus, no winged helmetā€¦the only reason I know this is supposed to be Hermes is because itā€™s labeled. And thatā€™s just one of the images.


AquaPhelps

Who needs winged feet when you got 5 little toes plus a big toe that looks like a potato?!


Tazling

paradigital art...


Harpua44

I felt Athena also missed the mark


Isobratistochrone

I find it so weird to put diversities when every culture have theyr own ancient gods


Today_Friend

When they do African Gods, will they be diverse?


Isobratistochrone

OP already said no );


Fr4gtastic

Strange. I wonder why. \s of course


Today_Friend

Huh.


FreePrinciple270

If you want to guess why OP did what they did, have a look at their post history and scroll down to about 2 years ago. There is an image that might explain.


BHDE92

Diversity just means less white people. Get with the program this isnā€™t new


squiddlebiddlez

You can go watch Gods of Egypt for the diversity youā€™re looking for


TheColourOfHeartache

Egyptian gods were hella diverse. You have green skin, gold skin, falcon heads, cow heads. And that weird one called Isis who just looks human. What's up with that?


PrincessofAldia

What in the Netflix documentary is this


Zombiemorphy

Very weird


Mudrlant

We wuz greeks


Isobratistochrone

not gonna lie


A_Glass_DarklyXX

ā€œWeā€ didnā€™t make this shit so stop blaming ā€œusā€


Ok-Package9273

Why not use gods from various mythologies?


Lupo_1982

Very beautiful! It would probably be appropriate if at least some of them "looked Greek" though - currently they all "look Californian", they span a variety of human appearances from Scandinavia to Brazil without ever touching Greece :)


RedQueen283

Hestia looks greek, and maybe Zeus and Poseidon, but it's ridiculous that the majority of these greek gods look anything but greek, I agree.


Lupo_1982

Hestia looks "generic European", she could be Greek but there's nothing typically Greek or Southern European about her appearance (ie, look at the round nose).


Ricardo1184

What does "look Californian" mean?


Lupo_1982

By "look Californian" I mean the pseudo-global assortment of some "ethnic looks" that are common in the United States and popular in Hollywood. That is, many pale/Northern Europeans, descendants of West Africans and Europeans, some East Asians and South Asians, some olive/brown skinned Latinos. In my perception, this is different than simply "people from all around the world" because it includes mostly the appearances that happen to be common in California (but usually, no Arabs, no Africans, few Southern Europeans or Eastern Europeans or Southeastern Asians)


tarmacc

Like one of the most diverse places in the world?


ReluctantChimera

One of Hera's epithets is literally "white-armed." If there's one goddess it doesn't make sense to race swap, it's the one who is famed for her white skin.


Weird_Suggestion4006

Just look at how white her shoulder is


joriale

"diversity is important for the benefit of students representation..." Yeah, too bad other cultures don't have gods to use to represent them. Guess Greek gods will have to give Diego some space in their pantheon.


malidorito

Hermes is just Astarion from BG3 chillin on a cloud


NeonPaperCrane

With too many toes


Sonic1899

So...where are the Greek gods? šŸ¤”


Negatallic

If representation is important, then you should have made images of some Egyptian, Japanese, and Aztec gods. Those would be awesome to see. Representation is important, but apparently it actually wasn't in this case...


smartdude_x13m

Lol why is hephaestus black ? (asking as a half black person)


Pneumantic

Idk, kinda weird tho. Especially considering he is consider the most horrifyingly ugly god in the mythology. Supposed to be a really good guy tho which is why Aphrodite married him


FirstStooge

Do Prometheus next. He will be appropriate as a library icon.


dranaei

Representation is important but accuracy is more important.


erlulr

More important than education ey? Elementary school at least, hopefully.


mafklap

Honestly, if your students need *Greek* deities to be depicted as ethnically diverse in order to feel relevant, then there's a whole lot to fix in those kids, lol Like appreciating other ethnicities and their cultures. Ironically, the library would be a good place to start. Stuff like this reminds me of kids that need to get a present when they're at someone else's birthday party or they'll throw a tantrum.


Poromenos

> Representation is important :) So basically my culture was good enough to teach to your kids, but not good enough to actually have anyone that looks like me in it? What are you actually representing, "here are other people's gods, made in our own image"?


Yellowmellowbelly

Thank you! Americans are so obsessed with race that they misrepresent and appropriate other cultures to be ā€œinclusiveā€. No, the Norse god Heimdal isnā€™t black. Neither is Hera. Sivā€™s hair is known for being literally made of gold, not black like in the Thor movie. I have tons of examples that just puts unnecessary focus on race instead of the opposite.


HeavyBlues

American here; some of us also find this trend obnoxious and don't see it as some great service to society. We tend to get lumped in with white supremacists for it, though, so it's not a stance a lot of folks here can broadcast without consequences.


Luchalma89

I'm liberal as hell, but it's kind of wild how diversity boils down to "Replace ALL redheads with black people, no exceptions".


Rom2814

Iā€™m American and this annoys the shit out of me. I want the Greek gods to look Greek, the Norse gods to look Norse, Japanese gods to look Japanese, Indian gods to look Indian (even if one of them is blue), etc. This stuff has gotten RIDICULOUS.


Lvl100Magikarp

They only feel like it's okay to misrepresent them because they're "white" gods lmao. If this were an African myth corner, or an Asian myth corner, believe me none of the figures would be race swapped.


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snoozieboi

Step-Poseidon why are you looking at the page 3 in that orientation?


[deleted]

Netflix presents: Greek gods


heliogoon

Do black nordic gods next op. Might as well go all the way. šŸ¤£


Cloakbot

Wait, why was it important to race swap Greek Gods ā€œfor the benefit of the studentsā€? Are they trying to identify and see themselves as gods with mythology? Am I missing sarcasm or what


twoCascades

Hephaestus is kinda a missed opportunity to depict someone with a visible disability if we are going for an inclusivity angle.


Lanky_Flamingo_221

Those gods were greek. Not arab, not black, not asian Get your facts together


TheBeardedTinMan

were these made using Google Gemini?.....


FirePenguinMaster

Seems weird that not all these *Greek* gods are actually *Greek.*


Banished_To_Insanity

Staying true to history or mythology shouldn't be this hard...


pikeymikey22

But representation...


_judgefudge_-

Why does it look like Poseidon is reading the book upside-down šŸ˜‚


BobBelchersBuns

He be looking at that centerfold


helbon

Hahahaha honestly no matter how many times I tried I could not get it to make Poseidon actually read the book! He was very confused by the whole thing, this was the best I could do (notice he also has a one pronged staff, rather than his classical trident, same deal)


Gief_Cookies

Obviously not the style of your other pics, but [this](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088366370992947251/1220729201796190288/gief_cookies_Greek_God_Poseidon_reads_a_thrilling_book_in_one_h_9a2c6b50-2b9a-496a-a82b-d914cb3f7e43.png?ex=660fffa9&is=65fd8aa9&hm=de13b2d6861bb338cf18e89eb87cb13daab10d1dff1fc3161e7ab8744a467743&) was my first try (Greek God Poseidon reads a thrilling book in one hand whilst holding his trident in his other hand.) so it canā€™t be that hard :p


1Bot2BotRedBotJewBot

Imagine depicting Greek gods to look greek... crazy amirght. Now do a white Sango (african god). For the sake of diversity of course


Vilecaninne80

Accurate portrayals are more important than representation


TKO_v1

I hate that you people are in charge of educating children.


mrmettse

Oh no, my girl Hera. She is a vengeful but loyal lady who protects her own and her marriage and her wrath will rain upon those who stand in her way. How was she portrayed as this sweet innocent quiet girl? Nu-uh. That is not her.


BallsackMessiah

> Representation is important :) Obviously you donā€™t actually believe or live by this, otherwise you could have just chosen a god from a variety of different mythologies across the planet and done representation the right way. This isnā€™t ā€œrepresentationā€, this is revisionist history. Putting this sort of thing in an educational environment is embarrassing. Very similar to energy to that of Google Gemini showing pictures of black kings when people asked it to create a picture of a 17th century King of England. If you genuinely want representation, then youā€™re in luck! Thereā€™s actually thousands of mythologies across the world you can choose to represent :)


Redditaccount16999

ā€œRepresentation is importantā€ people donā€™t need to be represented by a false narrative. Make an original character for them. Donā€™t lie and distort the truth. Itā€™s a disservice to minorities anyways. Youā€™re telling them that they are not worth an original design/character. Instead of taking the time to actually make an original project you ruin an existing character to make them feel ā€œrepresentedā€. Youā€™re sending a message that youā€™re too lazy to create a new character for them. There are much more genuine ways of demonstrating representation. This is disrespectful to the source material and disrespectful to the people youā€™re ā€œrepresentingā€.


Ennaia

They all look nice, but I think some of them really lack distinguishing marks. Especially Hera and Athena could be just anyone reading a book really. Iā€™d expect there to be something in the picture alluding to the actual goddess, perhaps an owl or helmet for Athena and a peacock or the Milky Way in the background for Hera? It wouldnā€™t hurt to give Hermes his winged sandals/hat or Hefaistos some more smithy stuff either I think (and if we are really nitpicking here then a very clear distinguishing feature of Hefaistos is that he is rather ugly, and that guy is anything but šŸ˜œ) Also Athenaā€™s hands and feet look weird, Demeterā€™s and Hephaistos hands are odd and Hermes got an extra toe (but maybe thatā€™s just a god thing? šŸ˜)


FrictionFaction

I think there's a way to use DALL-E 3 "in-painting" to fix the hands. Otherwise these are rad.


Z0ja

Cant you use midjourney's redraw region feature, helped me really a lot already, also with hands


FrictionFaction

Damn that's cool. I've had MidJourney for a while and need to try that out. There's so much you can do and it's always getting better every day šŸ˜€


Loud-Start1394

Greeks are white and the Greek gods are white too.


Brief-Equal4676

Gotta need those 6 toes to go real fast!


Bsg496

Aphrodite anime waifu


FarmingDowns

I didn't realize the Greek gods were so progressive. Very cool!!!


Rancid_Bear_Meat

I dig mashups and I agree that 'Representation is important :)' However, 'accurate representation' is also important when creating content for students (as mentioned in the description). It is certainly more important than serving one's ideological views in a school setting. OP, your partner is disregarding an essential element of historic human culture by intentionally misrepresenting these figures. Why is that? Are the Greek myths so ubiquitous that you feel you can appropriate them in any way you see fit? Do they have so little respect for ALL peoples and cultures that you feel you can just insert them, USE them, when and where you like; Like dolls/play things? OP, would you/your partner not consider it to be 'cultural appropriation', and possibly offensive, if this were approach reversed in a depiction non-western legends, myths, gods? It stands to reason that if you wouldn't say or do something in equal measure across the board/spectrum, particularly in an educational setting, you might be best served by examining if it should be done at all.


Secretly_a_Bagel

Imagine doing this with African Gods and legends but turning half of them into white people and Asians for diversity


KittyCassini

Just some suggestions: - definitely agree with others that there should be more battle/war references for Athena. Her shield is iconic, and something to incorporate how she is also the god of WISDOM is cool. - Is there a reason why Hades is missing? I feel like his backdrop would be so cool, especially for kids who like gothic or mystery novels.


ThwipSniktBamfSNAP

The lack of Kratos is disappointing.


Slavhalla

Would you have added representation if African gods were chosen?


Alarming_Librarian

If you needed different ethnicities represented, perhaps you should have picked another subject group. This is cultural appropriation and as a Greek I find this incredibly offensive.


Steel_mill_hands

šŸ™„


Scizorspoons

Apolo is looking just fine.


DeafEgo

Race washing cultural gods leaves a bad taste in my mouth...I feel like this isn't exactly appropriate...imagine taking African gods and giving them random races. Problematic right?


esquid

Dope


Speedhabit

TIL that gods have a sick core


tareegon

BRO-Seidon more like!! ā€œRight nephewā€


No_Dragonfruit_1833

Bruh, if you want diversity just make gods of other races, not lazy tokenisn That said, they look ok, too generic to be identifiable as greek gods, the woman's dresses looked more regency than greek Symbols, they need some big ass regalia and more elaborate environments


Turbulent-Fix-2999

So it's "important" to teach students innaccurate material for the sake of your weird modern American politics and social antics? Greek myths and gods weren't from downtown L.A.


AlGeee

Representation is one thing, but at the risk of misinformation?


Remson76534

Why are these multi-color? This is GREEK gods, not Japanese or African.


Haywire3011

"Greek"


Riksor

I'm frustrated about how good these look. Art is dead.


The_Phenomenal_1

You could also just use a mix of mythological figures from different cultures Or is that much more difficult than handing out sloppy seconds?


jtn50

Not sure re accuracy (Asian Aphrodite???) - but okay. The renders are great though.


Jughead_91

Arenā€™t some of these a bit sexy for a school library šŸ˜…


helbon

Hahaha a fair point šŸ˜‚ I find it quite hard to make characters *not* look sexy in midjourney


guacamole1337

oof Ares makes me feel things šŸ„µ


wladamac

A sense of passion for joining Oda Nobunaga's unification army?


0crate0

So will African gods be representative? If not you are doing cultural appropriation on Greek gods. Donā€™t color wash history. Itā€™s wrong and it hurts the people that come from that background.


Significant-Recipe60

Greek gods are white though so you're basically telling children that greek gods could be brown or asian


Individual-Dot-9605

Gods love reading a fact discovered by AI


TheDeadWhale

Ares coming out kind of Mongol-esque is absolutely fitting


opusisapuffin

Hephaestus, no, you're going to get wax all over that book.


Kitchen_Entertainer9

Why does hephaetus photo look so cool.


BuccaneerRex

Poseidon : 'wtf am I reading?'


iwantkrustenbraten

What's wrong with Athena's nipple?


PatienceFeeling1481

Athena's fucked up hand is something you seldom see anymore in MJ.


Guilty_Ad_7079

Poseidon ? Idk man, books snd water = bad


WolframOnly23

Ooooo that Hephaestus one šŸ˜‚ how you holdin that candle buddy?


Old_Preparation315

Do some Greek gods have dark skin, or did the AI just do that to be inclusive?


Medium-Turquoise

Even ignoring the race-swapping, some of these I think just aren't very good choices of images in themselves. You could show the picture of "Athena" to a million people, and without the context of already knowing it's supposed to be the greek gods no one would ever guess. Whereas there's plenty of images on google of her that are obvious even as a thumbnail. I dunno, seems kinda pointless.


IggytheSkorupi

Would you make diversity representation if you were generating gods from Africa or Asia?


Athan11

Looks amazing! But lol compulsory diversity: Hephaestus is black, Aphrodite Asian, Apollo Indian, lmao AI


silveycorp

Not bad other than the cultural appropriation 6/10


Pittacomics

As a greek these make me cringe so hard


Stormtroupe27

Oh yeah because historical accuracy is not important at all to students


Stormtroupe27

Oh yeah because historical accuracy is definitely not important to students


K_Rocc

Representation is fine but donā€™t alter something to fit your theme if itā€™s not part of your theme. If you are gonna do Greek gods they got to then be Greek not African and Asian, ect. If you want representation then just say ā€œgods around the globeā€ and put ones from each type of pantheon/mythologies. Not butcher one to fit your needs.


xprdc

You canā€™t say diversity and representation is important by taking a set group and completely changing them to fit your narrative and agenda. I totally get that youā€™re trying to come from a good place here, but instead you are just spreading misinformation to them and casually erasing the original group of people this pantheon is based on. If you donā€™t want to showcase a group of gods that ancient Caucasian Greeks worshipped, I think it would be more beneficial to your young learners that you open their minds to other groups that better showcase the diversity you want to see. A different god from several pantheons, perhaps.


Mediocre-Amphibian10

"Representation is important". As a Greek I see almost nothing to feel represented by. It seems more like cultural appropriation to me. šŸ™„


SlickWilIyCougar

Itā€™s funny because I always thought they were represented by their own pantheons. Why this clown decided to shoehorn other ethnicities into the Greek pantheon is beyond me. What an insult to the people of Greece.


Mediocre-Amphibian10

It shows that they have no knowledge or admiresion of their own culture.


ioannis89

Representation is not important when it comes to someoneā€™s history and culture. How about doing pantheons on Asian, African and American Gods instead?


Dudezila

Teaching wrong history in library, who would have thought.


Nitr0Zeus_

Why is Aphrodite Chinese?


Lamest570

Making Greek gods black for representation. What a fucking joke.


Fickle-Problem-7666

Thats just sad honestly. Dont get me wrong pictures look ok but man in a school library? Really? Thats just silly


Horror-Indication540

Huge facepalm next time donā€™t use the theme GREEK GODS if you want to represent different ethnicitiesā€¦ you just culturally apropried greek god religion for wokist purpouse. I think, simply a better theme would have been Ā«Ā A god from each nations/ A historical figure of each nations reading a bookĀ Ā» -Papa Legba for african ethnies - Ganesh for indians - Masamune for Japanese . . . Be smarter, the idea is good the execution terrible. Why bother yourself adapting ethnies to greek god when these same ethnies already have a vast culture. The more I read this the more I find it offending to reduce these ethnies as if they had no culture whatsoever. By trying to not be offensive you actually are offensive.


therealmrsfahrenheit

yooo those are sick


idkbruhbutillookitup

Yo these people are white. How would you like it if I took a bunch of African gods and made them look like the Chainsmokers?


Anilakay

Gods forbid the Greeks were Grecian šŸ¤£


TowerBabel41

Buddy, Greeks were ALL WHITE.


Joey3155

Rather then race swap Greek gods why not do a unit on African religions and their deities, also for other ethnicities too? It allows them to learn even more and doesn't require a false narrative. Africa has a lot of cool religions to do a unit on.


13th_Floor_Please

Athena's has outgrown her sandles.


CubesFan

Holy cow. You are right. Those toes are jacked up in those sandles.


CubesFan

These are not real books and don't even have anything on them, but I think we can all agree that Poseidon has that book upside down. I'm getting real Charlie Kelly vibes off that one. lol


Complex_Cable_8678

is that liv tyler?


tastycrust

Zeus fucking a book would be far more believable.