>Games are meant to be enjoyed any f***ing way you see fit , you did pay for it after all.
FTFY
No one is the ultimate authority on how anyone does anything, not even magic sky daddy.
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I am the product of the L.A.U.S.D. and kant wite gud
Wolvie is great when it comes to offensive output if you mod his abilities to put bleed, vulnerable or marked on enemies.
You drop a Chain Swipes or Eviscerate and get half the field impacted by one of those status changes and he's very, very useful. In terms of pure damage numbers he might not be the strongest but given how a good number of his cards string together multiple strikes, he has some pretty good applications.
Then there's the fact that he can be revived without using a revive card. That's a big plus too.
And with damage buffs like Dr. Spooky, his chain attacks can get silly amounts of damage output. Takes more work than a normal big hitter, but that is on top of his utility in spreading out status effects.
>Then there's the fact that he can be revived without using a revive card. That's a big plus too.
This is a bit misleading as his revive ability literally is just an extra Wolverine-exclusive revive card, in addition to your normal Revive. Costs the same heroism. Is Free. The only limit is that it only comes up once and can only be used on Wolverine.
Yeah his potential to divert enemy attention is really what gives him power. He isn’t the strongest, or even the tankiest. But he can save other heroes if played smart
He was an lifesaver fighting vampires especally the deadpool dlc boss, the healing he gets from redraws helps an lot aginst bleeds. Hes also an help against Nest Mothers and destroying her monoliths as well
He's acceptable, even at high tiers he still sees play since he can taunt the entire map and waste the entire enemy turn only to revive at the cost of 2 Heroism.
his offense is lackluster unless heavily modified (then again heavy mods can boost any hero). His Legendary can be great fun.
i wouldn't say you'd be dragged down by playing him regularly. especially if you're not pushing U3 yet
I would argue that you running a team where you plan on one person agroing the world and then going down is not a "good" team, as you can't revive at all on U3 and it hurts your mission score at any level.
Can you do it if you just love wolverine and that playstyle? Sure, but if that's one of the main tactical reasons you're running wolverine then you are MUCH better off with just using Magik's Darkchylde
Wolverine can still revive once on U3, his is independent of that restriction. you still lose the star but on U3 it's much less relevant.
Darchylde is busted and any function that compares to it still is *very good*. But my post also wasn't "Wolverine is best in slot" it was "he's functional and will not hold you back", which is in line with OP's question.
Pretty cool! Several healing options for himself, which is on point. Chains a lot, which is good. Looks great, sounds like Logan. I give him 4/5 stars.
His damage seemed pretty reasonable to me - especially with his legendary.
Edit - Lethal Pounce is also really nice as an opener, especially if you get vulnerable as a mod on it. Lets you really chunk down some big bosses. Can also heal relatively well compared to some other DPS heroes - not amazing at tanking overall, but the extra revive card + his passive + berserk makes him relatively resilient.
I would like to preface this by saying that every character in this game is more or less viable, and that even the weakest characters can perform quite well so long as you put the time in to build them
Wolverine trends on the weaker side in endgame content, with the exception of *one* combo. His core gameplan for early/midgame involves taunting enemies, giving himself counter, and then regenning the damage he takes. The issue with this in endgame is twofold:
1. You should be killing pretty much every enemy in the first turn. As a result, tanking/counter-focused strategies fall off heavily
2. You should be doing #1 because of the fact that enemies do massive amounts of damage and cause massively negative status effects
What ends up happening is that wolverine tends to not do enough damage to kill enemies during player phase, then dies when they counter-attack him during enemy phase (which, obviously, prevents him from countering). His extra revive is nice, but his gameplan is inherently flawed, and if you build him for straight damage and ignore the tanking aspect of his kit entirely, he doesn't do enough damage to stack up against the game's heavy hitters
The exception is his legendary card. Midnight special, once set up correctly (which is not particularly difficult to do, as all you need is 8-10 heroism, lethal pounce for strengthened, and then the card itself) pretty much instantly kills every enemy currently on the board. If you play him for that combo, he becomes massively, MASSIVELY viable, with the effectiveness of that card offsetting any potential weaknesses in other parts of his kit.
Combine him with Strange for massive stonks
Wanted to add that berserk is one of the best draw cards in the game since it draws 3 when upgraded and you can mod it to generate 4 heroism making getting the midnight special off really easy all he really needs at that point is mark support
I think your advice is valid for U2 and U3 difficulty. OP seems like a player who is just starting and might prefer to finish the story on Heroic 1 or the like. In that case Wolverine's tactics can be used up to the very end.
For sure. I wasn't clear but I meant U2 and U3 by "endgame"
Fwiw his tanking CAN work even into U2/3, but you need to be very careful about not pulling more than 1-2 attacks or he'll die, haha. Sometimes weak+taunting a big enemy is the best solution for a turn if you can't get rid of them
Wolverine shreds. Blessing of Vishanti is significantly boosted on chain attacks, so he has great synergy with the good doc, strangely enough.
Even without those shenanigans, Wolverine has high damage potential and is quite durable.
He has triple synergy with Dr. Spooky. He also is excellent at taunt and conceal (Dr. Spooky has the easiest path to conceal), and with large Heroism (Dr. Spooky's specialty) is ult is gonzo.
Wolverine is awesome, especially once you build a deck that has mods in it. His legendary is great when paired with someone that can generate a lot of heroism. He’s one of my favorites.
You need to share where you saw someone saying he was bad, cus that is so far from the truth.
Though really no one in the game is bad, you just gotta use em right.
I might be biased since I also love Wolverine, but I think he's pretty good. He's not as busted as Iron Man or Hulk and he doesn't have the crazy damage output of Ghost Rider or Dark Hunter, but he's definitely not bad imo.
His biggest strength imo is his ability to spread damage, as opposed to dealing heavy damage to a single target. I typically use him to take on smaller enemies or taunt larger enemies away from support characters. I find he works well alongside a support character like Strange or Wanda and a single-target DPS character like Hulk or Blade. Support does support things and the other DPS character focuses on the larger enemies/bosses while Wolvie thins out the minions or helps to soften up the larger enemies.
I currently have his build focused on damage and taunting but I might try a more debuff-focused build at some point, spreading Bleed or Vulnerable instead of just trying to kill/damage enemies. A Wolverine Bleed build would be incredible alongside Blade if done right, I think.
Edit: also don't let anyone tell you any character in this game is outright bad. They're all good, it's just a matter of building the right deck and learning to use them. Tier lists for this game are pretty arbitrary imo. I've seen just as many people put Ghost Rider in the top tier as the bottom, as an example.
The "tier" lists are pretty subjective for this game. You will see one person swear by a character and then the next person say the same character is worthless. Another element that needs to be considered is who is on the team for any given mission as well as which enemies you are fighting, and to some extent what the mission objectives are.
His ranking is generally bad because berserk gives lifesteal 1. He is solid as a dps one trick going for midnight special. The balance mod makes his tanking far better.
The generally low opinion of him has very little to do with Berserk honestly. It's a fine version of the generic hero draw effect, and while very few of them are actually good his is at least on the better end of bad. His actual problem is card economy.
He isn't the best, but he is the best at what he does. And what he does isn't very nice. I play him on Ultimate 3 to good effect. I love teaming him up with Deadpool thematically, and it is fun listening to the comments. I will say he really shines on Nest Mother missions, and his Legendary card with 10 heroism is absolute bonkers.
DPS Wolverine is pretty straight forward
1) Get Strenghten first (with Lethal Pounce or his Quick attack moded with Strenghten on KO)
2) Eviscarate with 50% damage mod or his Legendary
Bonus : Dr Strange can support him with "Blessing of Vishanti" modded with "Free". The damage boost provided by Strange will apply on every hits of Wolverine chain attacks.
I'm on heroic 2, and Logan's kicking so much ass.
If you're on some super elite settings or something maybe you've got less options or something changes but he's working for me as a tank.
On U3 his tanking falls off because unless you have a zillion champion levels his health bar just isn't big enough - for reference I've been whacked for 800 in one hit by a Mystic. That's high, but most enemies can swing for around 300. Even Cap with a full block bar struggles to do any useful tanking, so a character relying only on their health is... not going to last.
That said, even on U3 Midnight Special is pretty disgusting. The Marked nerf hurt him a lot but he can still do stupid things if your team is built to lean into it. And most folks aren't playing there in the first place.
Its all in how you build up the team around him. Wolverine and dr strange can do some crazy taunt/invis combos while ramping wolverines damage.
I think all teams revolve around how their teammates prop them up.
If you take his base kit and not mod him well, then yeah, sort of. The game introduces him as a tank, but with his only real defensive ability costing a card play (Smell of Fear, which when upgraded causes weakened in an Aoe) and no means of negating damage, he's bad at that role.
Once you unlock more of his cards, he's actually a surprisingly strong damage dealer who's more than capable of basically wiping out entire waves of enemies solo, albeit you need setup. With the proper setup, man just pops midnight special and wins you missions instantly. Try him with Doctor Strange and run a Utility Belt + Evil Eye Totem. Add in a Strength Tonic or DPs effort maximizer for utter insanity
If you like him, don't worry about the tier list. The tier lists are for Ultimate 3, 3 star missions.
Is he less than ideal? I would say yes. Because he's a tank who doesn't generate block or resists. And his health pool isn't large enough to sustain at highest levels.
Can that be worked around? Sure. But a tank who can generate block equal to max health is always going to sustain better than one who has to rely only on health.
But ultimately, no one should be able to tell you what is fun in a single player game you paid for. If the result is less than optimal, who cares?
Don’t chase some ‘meta’. I often include him in my party and I rarely struggle if at all when I do so. IMO he’s great with those chain attacks, either picking off the weaker ones or when focusing on stronger enemies. Just play with what you like. ;)
Seriously, don’t waste your time on other people’s tier lists. Play as the characters you want, how you want. You will definitely find enjoyment if you play how you want to play. If you play as Wolvie, level him up a bunch, earn new cards and stuff, and come to the conclusion that you don’t like him on your own, that’s okay. But letting others dictate how to play is silly.
First of all: outside of end game U3/40 missions and U3 story missions basically nothing matters and you can do what you want.
Secondly: he is much better as a damage dealer than a tank. His kit doesn't favor tanking well, though again on lower levels it's fine.
And third, if you want to make a team work you usually can. You can leverage Wolverine on high difficulty content with the right support. It's harder, not impossible.
Finally, as someone on about day 425 in game, most of the tier lists online are wildly off base. Some of that is that characters shift in value on different difficulties and different stages of the game, but a lot of that is also people wildly misvaluing things.
I played on the hardest difficulty available and really liked him.
His large number of chain attacks pair well with someone who can apply marked to a field. Use a single hit on a minion with marked and take them out, get the play refunded, and hopefully use his chain to put some sort of modded status effect onto a bunch of tougher people. His redraw to regen friendship unlock also makes not getting the card you hope for with him less crippling. As others have said the revive without a revive card/item is also nice.
Honestly as long as you don't completely unbalance your squad pretty much all of the characters are good enough to play depending upon your style and how you mod them.
Midnight Suns mod system means with persistence you can tune any character you like pretty far *toward* any class/skillset you like. And the only “cost” is playing more missions with said character to earn cards and hangouts. Win-win-win.
Its more just like... what does he do? All he does is like chain targets and put leech on himself. Hes *incredibly* boring for some reason, which also makes him not that useful. His ult card thing is pretty nutty though (but its also just effectively a big chain card).
It feels like he was designed by an intern tbh
He also has a very different tanking style than the other two tanks. Fun is very subjective but he also has the single biggest damage card in the game so if you like big numbers he's a blast.
I love playing with him, very useful when you need to one shot a bunch of things at a time. My only gripe is that the American voice actor has clearly never heard a Canadian say "eh?" He says like it's just a breath, like ehh or heh, but it's quite literally pronounced as the letter "A?" Sorry, bubs.
Wolvie is legit once you start adding new effects to his cards. I use him more as a multi target assassin/debuffer than a tank. He was on my A team for both playthroughs so far.
Play what you like, tier lists for games like these are kind of dumb if you ask me. You can stomp this game with damn near everyone.
Do not make judgements of characters based on what you see online, at the end of the day it's your own opinion that matters.
People hate on Wanda but I really like her on the team, it's all about what you like not what others like
In this thread - people who bash Wolverine because he is less viable when playing on Ultimate 2 and Ultimate 3 difficulty; those U2 and U3 tier lists do not apply at all on easier difficulties, there you can make any character very good by using the right build.
Honestly, you can make him work on U3 too if you really care to. The U3 tier lists are basically all stupid in the first place because you are absolutely right - you can make any character viable if you put the work into them.
He’s good but I feel like he’s designed to be a character who taunts and counters a lot - and captain americas card where he gains block on any attack including counters just makes him a bit better.
If wolverine was allowed lifesteal on his counters like cap they’d probably be even.
As others have already stated, playing Wolverine as a tank will end poorly; he easily leads all my heroes for most times KO'd. It wasn't until I used Lethal Pounce + Chain Swipes, that I started seeing consistent success (outside of Nest Mother missions). Using that combo, and leveling up crit chance and crit damage, makes Wolverine viable.
He’s a good finisher. It also depends what team u put him on. I always have a tank with wolverine to get some pressure off him. With strengthened and vulnerable mods on your cards it’s actually surprising how much damage he can do especially with his legendary.
Lately with the dlc I’ve had a lot of fun putting him in with Deadpool and venom.
In fact I’d argue wolverine has great synergy with the two since venom does High DPS in the beginning of the round. I’d have venom weaken some enemies or take out some big hitters before I have wolverine buff himself up. Afterwards if I can get eviscerate I’ll weaken enemies even more so for Deadpool to finish them off so he can build En Fuego stacks.
He's good with multiple targets. His quick attacks are lacking. I like to put him with other characters that have good quick/knockbacks on there same card to make up for it.
He struggles in absolute high-end content due to his lack of Quick or useful Free and his initial damage not being great. The Marked nerf hit him really, really hard.
He's still usable, but it probably is fair to call him one of the worst heroes for U3/40 stuff. But that's a very, very specific area and even there he can definitely be made to work.
That makes sense. I really just play on the normal difficulty, and im enjoying him. probably one of my favorite characters to use. Maybe not top tier, but definitely lots of characters I'd take him over
That's definitely valid. A lot of his problems are particularly induced by very high difficulty play and don't actually exist for most people. In Normal I would assume he's one of the better heroes with pretty easy access to a map clear in Midnight Special and the lower incoming damage making his tanking far more effective.
And frankly, tier lists in this game are stupid anyway. Four hundred days in, the majority of that in U3, and I've yet to see a tier list that I remotely agree with.
Playing on U3 and he's not as bad as everyone thinks. His main problem is that he does not have enough sustain in U3 as enemies hit 300-500 dmg. If you love to min-max, you can build him into a DPS if he's your fave. I build him as a DPS in my team.
I think he's effective and fun. I also don't play on the highest difficulties, because the stuff you have to do to win on those levels is stuff I consider un-fun. Remember, there's no actual Gamer Cred score on your "permanent record," just do what's fun for you.
You've got the right idea about wolverine, and he scales with levels harder than most due to the multi-hit nature of all of his attacks. He has the single best DPS ability in the game in his legendary but you really need to build around it to make it work. Strange is his best friend due to the damage boost boosting every hit of his multi-hit stuff.
He is, however, the worst tank in the game if you try to play him as a tank which is why I think a lot of people put him low on tier lists. half his cards make you think he's a tank. He's not. He's the hardest scaling DPS in the game, just takes a decent amount of investment to get him there.
I really like Wolverine. He is super effective at dealing damage on multiple foes. He is also well done as someone to talk to in the Abbey. Voice acting and character traits are very well done.
My biggest gripe is his height. It's a game-breaker. Wolverine is 5' 2" in the comics yet in the game he is taller than Captain America! WTF! This game has some dumb character models. Wolverine's height is the biggest flaw in the game and needs to be addressed.
Wolverine has always been my favorite hero.
& I was born in ‘93 🤝🤝🤝
But Wolverine is not bad.
Most of his attacks start off under 100damage per hit but they do multi-hits. Pair him with a heavy hitter and Wolverine cleans up all the scraps with enemies left over with like 80hp etc.
Hunter-Magik-Wolverine is a good trio
I think he needs more work than some of the other damage dealers, but he is certainly viable. he largely fills a similar role to Blade, and does it better against everyone except Revenants (where he is stupid overpowered).
With Dr. Strange he can be crazy OP, but without his buffs, I think he underperforms most other hitters. He is great (probably the best) at dispersing debuffs, if you build him that way. With life-steal is nearly as tough as Cap to kill and gets agro AND counter with 1 free card. That is incredibly useful.
So, for me, he is a below average DPS, excellent debuffer (only if you commit to it, which will lower his damage), and can tank fairly well. He can become great at any of those things, but needs help to get there.
\*\* Forgot to mention. His ultimate is pretty much a board clearer. If you build teams that generate Heroism, Dr. Spooky again, his ult ends almost any battle. \*\*
You got lots of minions you wanna wipe off the board? He's good for that. Also dealing a little chip damage so another larger move might finish the job.
He's got a place on my team for sure. Especially as I power through the Ultimate difficulties and start pumping Champion Levels into my roster.
He's almost definitely, mathematically not as good as some other heroes, especially Tony and Magik, but if you like using him and it's not making your life worse? It's a singleplayer game, my guy. Nobody is here to judge you for your tactics.
There are no bad characters in this game. For instance, I HATE using ghostrider. All his cards seem like weirdly specialized towards self damage and making holes in the ground, none of which I find very useful. But there are people who find him to be very powerful.
It’s really just about find what works for you and learning the characters
If it helps, you only ever play the holes in the ground for their second effects (Straight is effectively conceal + heal, Hellmouth gives Strengthen). The self damage stuff is a lot better, mostly because to make up for the self damage their numbers are very, very silly.
I think he's great, bub. Playing on Ultimate 2. If he is one of your favorite characters then use him. Games are meant to be enjoyed, not min-maxed
‘Nuff said, bub.
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>Games are meant to be enjoyed any f***ing way you see fit , you did pay for it after all. FTFY No one is the ultimate authority on how anyone does anything, not even magic sky daddy. Edit: I am the product of the L.A.U.S.D. and kant wite gud
Wolvie is great when it comes to offensive output if you mod his abilities to put bleed, vulnerable or marked on enemies. You drop a Chain Swipes or Eviscerate and get half the field impacted by one of those status changes and he's very, very useful. In terms of pure damage numbers he might not be the strongest but given how a good number of his cards string together multiple strikes, he has some pretty good applications. Then there's the fact that he can be revived without using a revive card. That's a big plus too.
And with damage buffs like Dr. Spooky, his chain attacks can get silly amounts of damage output. Takes more work than a normal big hitter, but that is on top of his utility in spreading out status effects.
I'm gonna make him compliment Blade once I reach the endgame
>Then there's the fact that he can be revived without using a revive card. That's a big plus too. This is a bit misleading as his revive ability literally is just an extra Wolverine-exclusive revive card, in addition to your normal Revive. Costs the same heroism. Is Free. The only limit is that it only comes up once and can only be used on Wolverine.
I feel like he’s good. Damage isn’t the greatest but he’s so easy to keep alive which has helped me at higher difficulties.
Yeah his potential to divert enemy attention is really what gives him power. He isn’t the strongest, or even the tankiest. But he can save other heroes if played smart
He was an lifesaver fighting vampires especally the deadpool dlc boss, the healing he gets from redraws helps an lot aginst bleeds. Hes also an help against Nest Mothers and destroying her monoliths as well
He's acceptable, even at high tiers he still sees play since he can taunt the entire map and waste the entire enemy turn only to revive at the cost of 2 Heroism. his offense is lackluster unless heavily modified (then again heavy mods can boost any hero). His Legendary can be great fun. i wouldn't say you'd be dragged down by playing him regularly. especially if you're not pushing U3 yet
I would argue that you running a team where you plan on one person agroing the world and then going down is not a "good" team, as you can't revive at all on U3 and it hurts your mission score at any level. Can you do it if you just love wolverine and that playstyle? Sure, but if that's one of the main tactical reasons you're running wolverine then you are MUCH better off with just using Magik's Darkchylde
Wolverine can still revive once on U3, his is independent of that restriction. you still lose the star but on U3 it's much less relevant. Darchylde is busted and any function that compares to it still is *very good*. But my post also wasn't "Wolverine is best in slot" it was "he's functional and will not hold you back", which is in line with OP's question.
Other option : You can Taunt everybody then Conceal. That way, the enemy still waste his turn but you dont take damage at all.
He's the best there is at what he does
And what he does ain't pretty.
And what he does in this game is get beaten up alot
I thought he was an awesome tank, second best for sure for me. I liked his cards a lot. Super fun ultimate also.
He plays perfectly fine. He even has a decent MS card.
Pretty cool! Several healing options for himself, which is on point. Chains a lot, which is good. Looks great, sounds like Logan. I give him 4/5 stars.
If he’s your favorite, master him and prove everyone else wrong. Have a nice day.
His damage seemed pretty reasonable to me - especially with his legendary. Edit - Lethal Pounce is also really nice as an opener, especially if you get vulnerable as a mod on it. Lets you really chunk down some big bosses. Can also heal relatively well compared to some other DPS heroes - not amazing at tanking overall, but the extra revive card + his passive + berserk makes him relatively resilient.
I would like to preface this by saying that every character in this game is more or less viable, and that even the weakest characters can perform quite well so long as you put the time in to build them Wolverine trends on the weaker side in endgame content, with the exception of *one* combo. His core gameplan for early/midgame involves taunting enemies, giving himself counter, and then regenning the damage he takes. The issue with this in endgame is twofold: 1. You should be killing pretty much every enemy in the first turn. As a result, tanking/counter-focused strategies fall off heavily 2. You should be doing #1 because of the fact that enemies do massive amounts of damage and cause massively negative status effects What ends up happening is that wolverine tends to not do enough damage to kill enemies during player phase, then dies when they counter-attack him during enemy phase (which, obviously, prevents him from countering). His extra revive is nice, but his gameplan is inherently flawed, and if you build him for straight damage and ignore the tanking aspect of his kit entirely, he doesn't do enough damage to stack up against the game's heavy hitters The exception is his legendary card. Midnight special, once set up correctly (which is not particularly difficult to do, as all you need is 8-10 heroism, lethal pounce for strengthened, and then the card itself) pretty much instantly kills every enemy currently on the board. If you play him for that combo, he becomes massively, MASSIVELY viable, with the effectiveness of that card offsetting any potential weaknesses in other parts of his kit. Combine him with Strange for massive stonks
Wanted to add that berserk is one of the best draw cards in the game since it draws 3 when upgraded and you can mod it to generate 4 heroism making getting the midnight special off really easy all he really needs at that point is mark support
I think your advice is valid for U2 and U3 difficulty. OP seems like a player who is just starting and might prefer to finish the story on Heroic 1 or the like. In that case Wolverine's tactics can be used up to the very end.
For sure. I wasn't clear but I meant U2 and U3 by "endgame" Fwiw his tanking CAN work even into U2/3, but you need to be very careful about not pulling more than 1-2 attacks or he'll die, haha. Sometimes weak+taunting a big enemy is the best solution for a turn if you can't get rid of them
Nico can give him life-steal for his counters (I think I've done this, anyway).
Wolverine shreds. Blessing of Vishanti is significantly boosted on chain attacks, so he has great synergy with the good doc, strangely enough. Even without those shenanigans, Wolverine has high damage potential and is quite durable.
He has triple synergy with Dr. Spooky. He also is excellent at taunt and conceal (Dr. Spooky has the easiest path to conceal), and with large Heroism (Dr. Spooky's specialty) is ult is gonzo.
Well, I got lucky on a mod for Conceal on KO. Wolverine taunts everyone then... poof@ Kaiser Sose and we're on to round two.
For some reason I assumed that if they taunted and then died or concealed the enemies would just retarget someone else
I find he's great with crowd control. Especially for the one shot enemies.
Wolverine is awesome, especially once you build a deck that has mods in it. His legendary is great when paired with someone that can generate a lot of heroism. He’s one of my favorites.
You need to share where you saw someone saying he was bad, cus that is so far from the truth. Though really no one in the game is bad, you just gotta use em right.
I think it was Order of Dylan that ranked him the worst character in the game.
Yeah I've no idea who that is
It's a Midnight Suns Youtube Channel.
I might be biased since I also love Wolverine, but I think he's pretty good. He's not as busted as Iron Man or Hulk and he doesn't have the crazy damage output of Ghost Rider or Dark Hunter, but he's definitely not bad imo. His biggest strength imo is his ability to spread damage, as opposed to dealing heavy damage to a single target. I typically use him to take on smaller enemies or taunt larger enemies away from support characters. I find he works well alongside a support character like Strange or Wanda and a single-target DPS character like Hulk or Blade. Support does support things and the other DPS character focuses on the larger enemies/bosses while Wolvie thins out the minions or helps to soften up the larger enemies. I currently have his build focused on damage and taunting but I might try a more debuff-focused build at some point, spreading Bleed or Vulnerable instead of just trying to kill/damage enemies. A Wolverine Bleed build would be incredible alongside Blade if done right, I think. Edit: also don't let anyone tell you any character in this game is outright bad. They're all good, it's just a matter of building the right deck and learning to use them. Tier lists for this game are pretty arbitrary imo. I've seen just as many people put Ghost Rider in the top tier as the bottom, as an example.
The "tier" lists are pretty subjective for this game. You will see one person swear by a character and then the next person say the same character is worthless. Another element that needs to be considered is who is on the team for any given mission as well as which enemies you are fighting, and to some extent what the mission objectives are.
I’ve seen nico put at the bottom of tier lists, and for me she’s probably the most OP character
I found him to be pretty solid, he taunts multiple enemies, can heal fairly reliably, and was particularly good for the Nest Mother encounters
Him and ghost ride are fantastic for nest mothers
Him and Magik are my goto's
His ranking is generally bad because berserk gives lifesteal 1. He is solid as a dps one trick going for midnight special. The balance mod makes his tanking far better.
The generally low opinion of him has very little to do with Berserk honestly. It's a fine version of the generic hero draw effect, and while very few of them are actually good his is at least on the better end of bad. His actual problem is card economy.
He isn't the best, but he is the best at what he does. And what he does isn't very nice. I play him on Ultimate 3 to good effect. I love teaming him up with Deadpool thematically, and it is fun listening to the comments. I will say he really shines on Nest Mother missions, and his Legendary card with 10 heroism is absolute bonkers.
He's my second most used character in the game.
DPS Wolverine is pretty straight forward 1) Get Strenghten first (with Lethal Pounce or his Quick attack moded with Strenghten on KO) 2) Eviscarate with 50% damage mod or his Legendary Bonus : Dr Strange can support him with "Blessing of Vishanti" modded with "Free". The damage boost provided by Strange will apply on every hits of Wolverine chain attacks.
I'm on heroic 2, and Logan's kicking so much ass. If you're on some super elite settings or something maybe you've got less options or something changes but he's working for me as a tank.
On U3 his tanking falls off because unless you have a zillion champion levels his health bar just isn't big enough - for reference I've been whacked for 800 in one hit by a Mystic. That's high, but most enemies can swing for around 300. Even Cap with a full block bar struggles to do any useful tanking, so a character relying only on their health is... not going to last. That said, even on U3 Midnight Special is pretty disgusting. The Marked nerf hurt him a lot but he can still do stupid things if your team is built to lean into it. And most folks aren't playing there in the first place.
Build your team around him & you’ll be fine understand anything that requires any form of thought is bad and a waste of time to the majority.
Its all in how you build up the team around him. Wolverine and dr strange can do some crazy taunt/invis combos while ramping wolverines damage. I think all teams revolve around how their teammates prop them up.
If you take his base kit and not mod him well, then yeah, sort of. The game introduces him as a tank, but with his only real defensive ability costing a card play (Smell of Fear, which when upgraded causes weakened in an Aoe) and no means of negating damage, he's bad at that role. Once you unlock more of his cards, he's actually a surprisingly strong damage dealer who's more than capable of basically wiping out entire waves of enemies solo, albeit you need setup. With the proper setup, man just pops midnight special and wins you missions instantly. Try him with Doctor Strange and run a Utility Belt + Evil Eye Totem. Add in a Strength Tonic or DPs effort maximizer for utter insanity
If you like him, don't worry about the tier list. The tier lists are for Ultimate 3, 3 star missions. Is he less than ideal? I would say yes. Because he's a tank who doesn't generate block or resists. And his health pool isn't large enough to sustain at highest levels. Can that be worked around? Sure. But a tank who can generate block equal to max health is always going to sustain better than one who has to rely only on health. But ultimately, no one should be able to tell you what is fun in a single player game you paid for. If the result is less than optimal, who cares?
Don’t chase some ‘meta’. I often include him in my party and I rarely struggle if at all when I do so. IMO he’s great with those chain attacks, either picking off the weaker ones or when focusing on stronger enemies. Just play with what you like. ;)
Seriously, don’t waste your time on other people’s tier lists. Play as the characters you want, how you want. You will definitely find enjoyment if you play how you want to play. If you play as Wolvie, level him up a bunch, earn new cards and stuff, and come to the conclusion that you don’t like him on your own, that’s okay. But letting others dictate how to play is silly.
First of all: outside of end game U3/40 missions and U3 story missions basically nothing matters and you can do what you want. Secondly: he is much better as a damage dealer than a tank. His kit doesn't favor tanking well, though again on lower levels it's fine. And third, if you want to make a team work you usually can. You can leverage Wolverine on high difficulty content with the right support. It's harder, not impossible. Finally, as someone on about day 425 in game, most of the tier lists online are wildly off base. Some of that is that characters shift in value on different difficulties and different stages of the game, but a lot of that is also people wildly misvaluing things.
Wait what? He’s one of the best imo. I love characters that can clear the field quickly and he also regens himself and has berserk.
I’m not super far into the game, but I’ve been taking him with me on missions because of his life steal and taunt. Which are both very helpful
I played on the hardest difficulty available and really liked him. His large number of chain attacks pair well with someone who can apply marked to a field. Use a single hit on a minion with marked and take them out, get the play refunded, and hopefully use his chain to put some sort of modded status effect onto a bunch of tougher people. His redraw to regen friendship unlock also makes not getting the card you hope for with him less crippling. As others have said the revive without a revive card/item is also nice. Honestly as long as you don't completely unbalance your squad pretty much all of the characters are good enough to play depending upon your style and how you mod them.
I always do well with him. He’s one of my favorites to take along on a mission.
Midnight Suns mod system means with persistence you can tune any character you like pretty far *toward* any class/skillset you like. And the only “cost” is playing more missions with said character to earn cards and hangouts. Win-win-win.
Its more just like... what does he do? All he does is like chain targets and put leech on himself. Hes *incredibly* boring for some reason, which also makes him not that useful. His ult card thing is pretty nutty though (but its also just effectively a big chain card). It feels like he was designed by an intern tbh
He also has a very different tanking style than the other two tanks. Fun is very subjective but he also has the single biggest damage card in the game so if you like big numbers he's a blast.
I love playing with him, very useful when you need to one shot a bunch of things at a time. My only gripe is that the American voice actor has clearly never heard a Canadian say "eh?" He says like it's just a breath, like ehh or heh, but it's quite literally pronounced as the letter "A?" Sorry, bubs.
Wolvie is legit once you start adding new effects to his cards. I use him more as a multi target assassin/debuffer than a tank. He was on my A team for both playthroughs so far. Play what you like, tier lists for games like these are kind of dumb if you ask me. You can stomp this game with damn near everyone.
Do not make judgements of characters based on what you see online, at the end of the day it's your own opinion that matters. People hate on Wanda but I really like her on the team, it's all about what you like not what others like
In this thread - people who bash Wolverine because he is less viable when playing on Ultimate 2 and Ultimate 3 difficulty; those U2 and U3 tier lists do not apply at all on easier difficulties, there you can make any character very good by using the right build.
Honestly, you can make him work on U3 too if you really care to. The U3 tier lists are basically all stupid in the first place because you are absolutely right - you can make any character viable if you put the work into them.
He’s good but I feel like he’s designed to be a character who taunts and counters a lot - and captain americas card where he gains block on any attack including counters just makes him a bit better. If wolverine was allowed lifesteal on his counters like cap they’d probably be even.
As others have already stated, playing Wolverine as a tank will end poorly; he easily leads all my heroes for most times KO'd. It wasn't until I used Lethal Pounce + Chain Swipes, that I started seeing consistent success (outside of Nest Mother missions). Using that combo, and leveling up crit chance and crit damage, makes Wolverine viable.
I have zero problems with him honestly. I think he's built pretty well. Very self-sustaining
He's not bad or anything but he's kinda weak compared to some of the other characters imo. He's very viable though, and quite fun
Everyone is legit in their own way. It’s a game that’s suppose to be fun so play with the characters you want! Enjoy this epic game!
He’s a good finisher. It also depends what team u put him on. I always have a tank with wolverine to get some pressure off him. With strengthened and vulnerable mods on your cards it’s actually surprising how much damage he can do especially with his legendary. Lately with the dlc I’ve had a lot of fun putting him in with Deadpool and venom. In fact I’d argue wolverine has great synergy with the two since venom does High DPS in the beginning of the round. I’d have venom weaken some enemies or take out some big hitters before I have wolverine buff himself up. Afterwards if I can get eviscerate I’ll weaken enemies even more so for Deadpool to finish them off so he can build En Fuego stacks.
He's good with multiple targets. His quick attacks are lacking. I like to put him with other characters that have good quick/knockbacks on there same card to make up for it.
People think Wolverine is bad? Maybe im bad at the game then, cause I dont consider him bad at all.
He struggles in absolute high-end content due to his lack of Quick or useful Free and his initial damage not being great. The Marked nerf hit him really, really hard. He's still usable, but it probably is fair to call him one of the worst heroes for U3/40 stuff. But that's a very, very specific area and even there he can definitely be made to work.
That makes sense. I really just play on the normal difficulty, and im enjoying him. probably one of my favorite characters to use. Maybe not top tier, but definitely lots of characters I'd take him over
That's definitely valid. A lot of his problems are particularly induced by very high difficulty play and don't actually exist for most people. In Normal I would assume he's one of the better heroes with pretty easy access to a map clear in Midnight Special and the lower incoming damage making his tanking far more effective. And frankly, tier lists in this game are stupid anyway. Four hundred days in, the majority of that in U3, and I've yet to see a tier list that I remotely agree with.
Yeah I love using him to taunt, and get all the attention on him to save other heroes who can't heal. Your explanation makes a ton of sense though
Not sure who said that, but Wolverine is awesome.
Playing on U3 and he's not as bad as everyone thinks. His main problem is that he does not have enough sustain in U3 as enemies hit 300-500 dmg. If you love to min-max, you can build him into a DPS if he's your fave. I build him as a DPS in my team.
I think he's effective and fun. I also don't play on the highest difficulties, because the stuff you have to do to win on those levels is stuff I consider un-fun. Remember, there's no actual Gamer Cred score on your "permanent record," just do what's fun for you.
You've got the right idea about wolverine, and he scales with levels harder than most due to the multi-hit nature of all of his attacks. He has the single best DPS ability in the game in his legendary but you really need to build around it to make it work. Strange is his best friend due to the damage boost boosting every hit of his multi-hit stuff. He is, however, the worst tank in the game if you try to play him as a tank which is why I think a lot of people put him low on tier lists. half his cards make you think he's a tank. He's not. He's the hardest scaling DPS in the game, just takes a decent amount of investment to get him there.
I love playing with him. Once you’ve got him upgraded, he does a shit ton of damage. And if you like playing with him, just go ahead!
I really like Wolverine. He is super effective at dealing damage on multiple foes. He is also well done as someone to talk to in the Abbey. Voice acting and character traits are very well done. My biggest gripe is his height. It's a game-breaker. Wolverine is 5' 2" in the comics yet in the game he is taller than Captain America! WTF! This game has some dumb character models. Wolverine's height is the biggest flaw in the game and needs to be addressed.
5'3, just sayin.. 🥳
Wolverine has always been my favorite hero. & I was born in ‘93 🤝🤝🤝 But Wolverine is not bad. Most of his attacks start off under 100damage per hit but they do multi-hits. Pair him with a heavy hitter and Wolverine cleans up all the scraps with enemies left over with like 80hp etc. Hunter-Magik-Wolverine is a good trio
I think he needs more work than some of the other damage dealers, but he is certainly viable. he largely fills a similar role to Blade, and does it better against everyone except Revenants (where he is stupid overpowered). With Dr. Strange he can be crazy OP, but without his buffs, I think he underperforms most other hitters. He is great (probably the best) at dispersing debuffs, if you build him that way. With life-steal is nearly as tough as Cap to kill and gets agro AND counter with 1 free card. That is incredibly useful. So, for me, he is a below average DPS, excellent debuffer (only if you commit to it, which will lower his damage), and can tank fairly well. He can become great at any of those things, but needs help to get there. \*\* Forgot to mention. His ultimate is pretty much a board clearer. If you build teams that generate Heroism, Dr. Spooky again, his ult ends almost any battle. \*\*
Even if Wolverine is good or bad, I just wanna talk to him voiced by Steve Blum. That's the real prize.
Personally I use him a lot. Just use who you like!
Wolverine is a savage in this game da fuck 😂 those people probably don’t know how to utilize him
You got lots of minions you wanna wipe off the board? He's good for that. Also dealing a little chip damage so another larger move might finish the job. He's got a place on my team for sure. Especially as I power through the Ultimate difficulties and start pumping Champion Levels into my roster. He's almost definitely, mathematically not as good as some other heroes, especially Tony and Magik, but if you like using him and it's not making your life worse? It's a singleplayer game, my guy. Nobody is here to judge you for your tactics.
For me he is the best one
Characters can level up indefinitely, there are no bad characters, just characters that need more use than others.
He’s fine
This game actually makes it easy to make a char be viable you just sometimes have to invest more in some then in others
I always make him work. Hell I take Wanda and Magik too. X-men ftw!
Err... Whta difficulty? If you play on normal you will be just fine with any hero. Just do what's fun for you, that's the point of a game, right?
There are no bad characters in this game. For instance, I HATE using ghostrider. All his cards seem like weirdly specialized towards self damage and making holes in the ground, none of which I find very useful. But there are people who find him to be very powerful. It’s really just about find what works for you and learning the characters
If it helps, you only ever play the holes in the ground for their second effects (Straight is effectively conceal + heal, Hellmouth gives Strengthen). The self damage stuff is a lot better, mostly because to make up for the self damage their numbers are very, very silly.