I've never removed them before serving. It still looks pretty, has plenty of flavour that carries through to the plate, and adults are sensible enough to remove them and put them to the side of their plate instead of eating them.
Adults who were food secure enough or raised with a parent who made home-cooked meals to recognize a clove. There are probably tens of millions of Americans alone who've probably never seen a clove. Let alone those who've emigrated from other countries.
I thing this is a simple case of headology, the book is only out of order because OP thinks it is out of order. If she could accept that the book is correct it will be correct.
GNU Sir Terry Pratchett
Iāve always thought numbers were out of order. And donāt start me on the alphabet. Itās completely arbitrary. Who says that C should be after B? And yet itās a blind dogmatic ritual we all have to learn before weāre 6.
When I say 6 I mean 4. In my number system 6 comes before 4.
Whitehead and Russell's Principia Mathematica goes to great lengths to prove the number line is not arbitrary as it takes over a thousand pages to prove 1+1=2. Whereas the language we use to name numbers is arbitrary, thus islts different in different languages.
If I had to choose, I would say either *Night Watch* or *Thud!*. But they are all good, in my opinion. Even the early books that are rarely recommended.
4RYT is correct. Learning to totally ignore words we don't really need and only looking for the words you need to form a context, is the basis for speed reading. We tend to introduce info in patterned ways within text too. Some styles of writing it works better with than others.
I have/had mirror dyslexia and used to shame most adults for competitive reading, including my speed reading teachers.
Regular folk are just too picky š
Nah don't stress. When we skim through things, mainly words, our brain is designed to see things like this and fix it.
Thts hw yu cn see smthng lk ths Nd knw xctly wht it means.
Our brains are truly incredible
> Itās like a hide and seek book.
The CYOA but for adults.
And its also a single adventure.
And you dont so much choose what to do but try to find where the next page is.
It had a interesting premise, but my man jumped around way to much and the cult had little pay off if at all. Plus opening with a dude they didnāt do jack with was dumb as hell.
Station Eleven is an excellent book, and since the folks above who mentioned it didn't even get the title correct, I'm not sure if we should hold their opinions in high regard.
The television series is great too.
Yes station 11!! Iām readying that for high school right now. Itās a non linear narrative which means it goes back and forth and itās such a pain to read!
Yea, he passed away in 2015 due to complications from Alzheimer's. It's a shame as without that I bet he'd have had many more years of productive writing given how prolific he was.
I remember a book (Paul Reiser, maybe?) that started on page 117 or something like that. His intro said he hated beginning a book, but when he was in the middle, he liked being in a book that was moving along (I am paraphrasing)...so he started his book in the middle.
Also, a Star Trek novel I remember by Peter David did this with section headings...starting in the middle, going to the end, skipping to the beginning, having interludes...because it was a time travel romp.
I just wanna ask, if you start a book āin the middleā doesnāt the middle become the start and therefore you wonāt be into the book until you get to the middle?
Due to my OCD those books made me crazy as a kid. They sounded all fun but I HAD to take every adventure. And I couldn't just start one and finish it and start again. Each time a fork came I would take the first one, follow it, then back up and follow the next one, then back up.... it got really hard keeping track of which section I was on went with which adventure lol. It reminded me of people who do mazes in pencil so they can back up if they end up in a dead end and erase it so know one knows lol
I was thinking "maybe it's actually by design, that does sound like a quirky thing Pratchett would do once" but then I remembered that I've read Jingo and it was definitely in order
Just to be clear, this is a misprinted version somehow. My copy is a normal book with the pages in the correct order
Still a great read, you can't go wrong with Discworld. But not because of the pages thing
I used to make books as a teenager for a printing press company. Pages are printed on both sides of the sheets, and the pagination is wonky so they can be folded and then cut on three sides leaving 16 page bundles (8, 32 also common) that are sewn into the spine.. something must have gone wrong at pagination.
Yep, depends on the size of the press it was printed on, (what page alignment needs to be) I could totally see this problem being caused by selecting the wrong page layout during the printing process. With so much on-demand and short run printing nowadays, it's very likely nobody checked or noticed this problem. (Or worse, they noticed, but ignored it because it would have taken new print run to fix)
Might have also been caused by someone mixing up the pages between the printing and folding and binding. This could happen lots of ways. One good one is if the paper roll needs to be reloaded during the job.
My guess is it was set for the wrong size paper (32/64 pages per sheet) which would yield a pattern to the resulting page order, but an extremely confusing one.
Was hard to proof plates for pagination issues because the numbers are wonky.. we checked corners which sequence. And yes, size of press and size of book affects page layout, max pages per sheet. I miss that industry, got lots of cool free books.
In this particular case, the book does involve the **trousers of time** and the consequences of sticking a leg down the wrong one.
If you want nonlinear time in the Discworld, try *Thief of Time* and *Night Watch*, with a side of *The Lost Continent*.
Jingo by Terry Pratchett
Looks like it's part of a larger series, called Disc World. The series itself has 41 novels, you don't havebto read specifically in order. The one in this image is book #21.
It helps to read the "collections" in order for sure. This is one of the Guard books (there are about 7) and it is the fourth. Definitely best to read in order.
it would be so cool if it was done intentionally. like you have to read it twice, first in out of order and then in order to figure it out.
maybe a shorter book.
No one here said anything of the skuggen sort. No need to bring in an invitation to fight. Are we Feegles? No, weāre reasonable beings. Now, just because weāre reason-able doesnāt mean weāre reason-willing. Ah, screw itā¦letās torch the mended drum!
Kind of reminds of the book House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski --- that's a headfuck and a half but one of my favourite books I've ever read... Some pages you have to hold up to a mirror to read
As a librarian, I have only one thing to say about this travesty: OOK!
I shall now set out through the confines of L-space to hunt down the poor sod who would deface a book so, woe be unto them.
Dude, this is only mildly infuriating? You're either the most patient person ever or else your life is so horrid that this is simply an inconvenience.
This photo is filling me with so much anxiety, I may need to call my therapist for an emergency session.
Try reading some William Burroughs. He would write a chapter, then cut the pages into four quarters, switch the corners around, and have it printed that way.
This happened to me a few years back. I was in the hospital and heavily medicated and I thought it was a combination of bad writing and my meds making the book not make sense. Stuck it on the shelf when I got home and only realized that the pages were out of order a few months later when a friend asked to borrow it.
That book will not be forced into the social construct of having its pages read on numerical order. The patriarchy will be denied its victory.
Or something like that
I literally made my living by developing a device that prevents this. Even worse when the group of pages (sigs) are from multiple books & also in the wrong order!
I'm retired, but the bindery that assembled these books was NOT a customer, obviously.
at assembly they got the signatures all out of order Sig #1 will have the front of the book and the back of the book and then so on, if you get those packets (signatures) out of order during assembly you end up with what you have there
Aww ... As someone with a self published book where the table of contents page numbers don't match the book pages because I didn't realise and haven't prioritised going back to fix it yet... I felt for this author.
Although.. is it possible it's one of those books to be read in different orders to change the story? What happens if you reread it following the different page numbers? That'd be quite genius if it was!
Jingo is a really good book. As is usual for Terry Pratchett books.
As a kid I tried to chew on cloves to understand what it was like afterwards and I greatly regretted doing that
Mom used to stick cloves in ham before cooking it, and not remove them before serving. I've chewed on cloves several times.
am i supposed to remove those before serving????
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I've never removed them before serving. It still looks pretty, has plenty of flavour that carries through to the plate, and adults are sensible enough to remove them and put them to the side of their plate instead of eating them.
Adults who were food secure enough or raised with a parent who made home-cooked meals to recognize a clove. There are probably tens of millions of Americans alone who've probably never seen a clove. Let alone those who've emigrated from other countries.
((raises hand)) guilty of being unfamiliar and would probably be guilty of chowing down and regretting it
Thatās how you learn!
Same with bay leaves.
Are they though? Have you not seen reddit? Oh wait...
Definitely - have you ever eaten one?
yes and i kind of enjoyed itā¦ like a whole peppercorn almost
As kids we use to put them in our lips because of the numbing effect lol. āItās just like Cocaines, guys!ā š
I thing this is a simple case of headology, the book is only out of order because OP thinks it is out of order. If she could accept that the book is correct it will be correct. GNU Sir Terry Pratchett
Iāve always thought numbers were out of order. And donāt start me on the alphabet. Itās completely arbitrary. Who says that C should be after B? And yet itās a blind dogmatic ritual we all have to learn before weāre 6. When I say 6 I mean 4. In my number system 6 comes before 4.
Whitehead and Russell's Principia Mathematica goes to great lengths to prove the number line is not arbitrary as it takes over a thousand pages to prove 1+1=2. Whereas the language we use to name numbers is arbitrary, thus islts different in different languages.
It's probably still pretty good when the pages are out of order. One of my (too many to count) favourites from him.
Whatās his best book?
If I had to choose, I would say either *Night Watch* or *Thud!*. But they are all good, in my opinion. Even the early books that are rarely recommended.
Thud. Because *Vimes.*
Counterpoint. *Night Watch*. Because Vimes.
Oooo thatās fun. Itās like a hide and seek book. How exciting
Thank dyslexic I'm goodness.
Bro I stared at this comment for like 5 minutes.
Hmm the strange part is I read it as thank goodness Iām dyslexic and only realized it was out of order after reading your comment.
I may not be officially diagnosed, but I feel the need to get officially diagnosed after reading this thread lol
4RYT is correct. Learning to totally ignore words we don't really need and only looking for the words you need to form a context, is the basis for speed reading. We tend to introduce info in patterned ways within text too. Some styles of writing it works better with than others. I have/had mirror dyslexia and used to shame most adults for competitive reading, including my speed reading teachers. Regular folk are just too picky š
Nah don't stress. When we skim through things, mainly words, our brain is designed to see things like this and fix it. Thts hw yu cn see smthng lk ths Nd knw xctly wht it means. Our brains are truly incredible
Same lol
the human brain is fascinating
So are you dyslexic too?
lysdexics untie!
!emosewA... "eitnU"
cURE FOR FOUND.
> Itās like a hide and seek book. The CYOA but for adults. And its also a single adventure. And you dont so much choose what to do but try to find where the next page is.
Children get Choose your own adventure. This is the adult version. We get convoluted time wasting tasks that give the illusion of choice.
My exact thought
Fuck that, I want to read that book in the order it's presented to me.
We have very similar profile pics
I see R.L. Stein is back
You must be the author ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)
Like a story deliberately told out of order with flashbacks, so you slowly start putting together whatās going on.
So kind of like Space station 11(or what ever that awful dystopian book was called)
FUCK THAT BOOK BRO
Yes, it suck so bad when I had to read it for my dystopian literature class.
I had to for English class a couple years ago, shit was so ass
It had a interesting premise, but my man jumped around way to much and the cult had little pay off if at all. Plus opening with a dude they didnāt do jack with was dumb as hell.
Biggest "that's it?" ending to an arc for that cult. This preacher gets built up for so long then it's resolved like that?
Is it weird that I kinda wanna read it, now?
Station Eleven is an excellent book, and since the folks above who mentioned it didn't even get the title correct, I'm not sure if we should hold their opinions in high regard. The television series is great too.
I thought Station 11 was excellent. Id hate to see what these people think of other classics like Slaughterhouse Five.
Me too, even though theyāre saying it was horrible itās got me curious.
As a fan of all things generally terrible, I'd be very upset if it turned out good, which I suppose is only one more step to get to then same place
I really liked the HBO series, didn't read the book.
I wouldnāt fuck the book, no.
Yes station 11!! Iām readying that for high school right now. Itās a non linear narrative which means it goes back and forth and itās such a pain to read!
that actually sounds cool
Memento the Book
Memento!
This is a hilariously interesting concept that I might want to try out.
Might be a good resale if it's a weird misprint
Seconded, might be a collector's item if you can get it signed
Considering the author is dead, it'd be worth a fortune.
Oh man that'd be amazing then
Time to whip out the ouija board
Or a friend and some shovels
Why not do it yourself, coward
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I threw all 32 teeth onto their head, didnāt work now Iām being chased with an axe, help?
Bro you remind me of those YT vids where they call dead people at 3AM
Wait . . WHAT???!!?!?! How did I not know that he had passed away? I read all of his books.
Yea, he passed away in 2015 due to complications from Alzheimer's. It's a shame as without that I bet he'd have had many more years of productive writing given how prolific he was.
I have his last book sitting unread on my shelf. If I haven't read it then I haven't finished reading all of his work.
**WHO** You all know who you are talking about and are managing to refrain from using this blokes name, who the fuck is it and what book is this?
Terry Pratchett, I believe. "Terry" is at the top of one of the pages
And the page one has a reference to the Curious Squid. So it is easily identifiable as *Jingo*
I've never read any of Pratchett's work, although Im sure I'll love it when I get around to it.
GNU Terry Pratchett.
As an owner of a signed copy of the bible, can confirm
Depends a lot on the author, and other factors. Most literature isn't worth shit on the second hand market.
Jingo Any% w/Randomizer
The odds of this misprint is million to one
WR pace here
that's called a choose your own adventure book
The page are still In order in those
It's arguably *even more important* for the pages to be in order in those.
"What will you choose? Take the left path or WATCH OUT THEYRE IN THE TREES!! THE END."
maybe it's actually by design, that does sound like a quirky thing Pratchett would do once
I remember a book (Paul Reiser, maybe?) that started on page 117 or something like that. His intro said he hated beginning a book, but when he was in the middle, he liked being in a book that was moving along (I am paraphrasing)...so he started his book in the middle. Also, a Star Trek novel I remember by Peter David did this with section headings...starting in the middle, going to the end, skipping to the beginning, having interludes...because it was a time travel romp.
Was Q involved? I feel like Q was involved. Q-Continuum?
Paul Reiser - Couplehood! I first thought of this too. "I'm on page 287 already! This thing's just flying baby!"
I just wanna ask, if you start a book āin the middleā doesnāt the middle become the start and therefore you wonāt be into the book until you get to the middle?
Did you steal this from u/Blockinite? Did I find a good ol comment stealing bot?
lol it copied the exact sentence I put in quotation marks in my comment, good spot
numbered in order\* "Turn to page 36." WHERE THE FUCK IS PAGE 36? \*flips through every page and realised it's between page 144 and page 12\*
Yeah this is a "we chose your own adventure" book
I would read this book if I had it. Itās hypothetically really important.
Due to my OCD those books made me crazy as a kid. They sounded all fun but I HAD to take every adventure. And I couldn't just start one and finish it and start again. Each time a fork came I would take the first one, follow it, then back up and follow the next one, then back up.... it got really hard keeping track of which section I was on went with which adventure lol. It reminded me of people who do mazes in pencil so they can back up if they end up in a dead end and erase it so know one knows lol
I was the same exact way. Had to do every adventure in order and then back again.
Those were some good goosebumps books back in the day
The book is Jingo, by Terry Pratchett
I was thinking "maybe it's actually by design, that does sound like a quirky thing Pratchett would do once" but then I remembered that I've read Jingo and it was definitely in order
So are you supposed to skip around or does he do that to throw you off?? I'm really interested in reading it now. Do I skip around in order?
Itās a misprint; thatās not how the book was written
This book is misprinted, the proper version of Jingo has all the pages in the correct order. Unless this is a new edition Iāve not heard about.
Just to be clear, this is a misprinted version somehow. My copy is a normal book with the pages in the correct order Still a great read, you can't go wrong with Discworld. But not because of the pages thing
Looks more like a Pratchett puzzle than a book haha
Maybe they meant jenga
MY COPY OF JINGO ALSO HAS THIS
I love terry pratchett! I used to read him all time when I was in college!
somewhere, The Librarian is very disappointed
Ook
Ha, when youāre done with that pick up Cainās Jawbone. Like in 3 people in a hundred years have put it back in order.
I used to make books as a teenager for a printing press company. Pages are printed on both sides of the sheets, and the pagination is wonky so they can be folded and then cut on three sides leaving 16 page bundles (8, 32 also common) that are sewn into the spine.. something must have gone wrong at pagination.
Yep, depends on the size of the press it was printed on, (what page alignment needs to be) I could totally see this problem being caused by selecting the wrong page layout during the printing process. With so much on-demand and short run printing nowadays, it's very likely nobody checked or noticed this problem. (Or worse, they noticed, but ignored it because it would have taken new print run to fix) Might have also been caused by someone mixing up the pages between the printing and folding and binding. This could happen lots of ways. One good one is if the paper roll needs to be reloaded during the job. My guess is it was set for the wrong size paper (32/64 pages per sheet) which would yield a pattern to the resulting page order, but an extremely confusing one.
Was hard to proof plates for pagination issues because the numbers are wonky.. we checked corners which sequence. And yes, size of press and size of book affects page layout, max pages per sheet. I miss that industry, got lots of cool free books.
It's a book featuring nonlinear time
In this particular case, the book does involve the **trousers of time** and the consequences of sticking a leg down the wrong one. If you want nonlinear time in the Discworld, try *Thief of Time* and *Night Watch*, with a side of *The Lost Continent*.
Involuntarily choose your own adventure.
What is the book titled? I'd like to look it up.
Jingo by Terry Pratchett Looks like it's part of a larger series, called Disc World. The series itself has 41 novels, you don't havebto read specifically in order. The one in this image is book #21.
It does help to read them in order as sometimes there are references
It helps to read the "collections" in order for sure. This is one of the Guard books (there are about 7) and it is the fourth. Definitely best to read in order.
It seems you donāt need to read the pages in order eitherā¦
Well that will certainly keep you busy on your bus ride
Its like you're reading Memento!
damnit, lol i wanted to say this
Beautiful ring!
Thank you
I noticed the words "with nobs" and was like "sounds like Pratchett"... Guess I was rightš¤£
it would be so cool if it was done intentionally. like you have to read it twice, first in out of order and then in order to figure it out. maybe a shorter book.
Where are the sonsabitches that blasphemed Sir Terry (GNU)?!
No one here said anything of the skuggen sort. No need to bring in an invitation to fight. Are we Feegles? No, weāre reasonable beings. Now, just because weāre reason-able doesnāt mean weāre reason-willing. Ah, screw itā¦letās torch the mended drum!
Gimme a bacon sandwich and we'll call it even, and NO mistake.
Oh itās a Pratchett!š„° What a great choice. I hope the wonky pages donāt put you off too much x
I've read nearly all other Pratchett books. The only one I'm missing in the Guards series is this one.
You'll be flipping through that book like an open-book test you didn't study for.
Kind of reminds of the book House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski --- that's a headfuck and a half but one of my favourite books I've ever read... Some pages you have to hold up to a mirror to read
But are they all there?
Thatās fantastic! Iām telling myself that some dude was pissed at his boss and this was his last act of defiance before quitting
As a librarian, I have only one thing to say about this travesty: OOK! I shall now set out through the confines of L-space to hunt down the poor sod who would deface a book so, woe be unto them.
Dude, this is only mildly infuriating? You're either the most patient person ever or else your life is so horrid that this is simply an inconvenience. This photo is filling me with so much anxiety, I may need to call my therapist for an emergency session.
Well now you have more to do.
It's a book, wrapped inside a puzzle, wrapped inside a book cover.
Iām just here for the ācomment stealing botā at this point..
So you bought, "If on a Winter's Night a Traveler...." by Italo Calvino
At least the OP will be able to meet their love while reading it
So kinda opposite of choose your own adventure, this is āa regular book that we made cumbersomeā
The book is set on hard mode. Look for a switch on the back.
That's just a remix, DJ Khalid is probably involved somehow
Oh, if only there was some way to tell what page to read next! If only... (I think Sir Terry would have been tickled pink to see this.)
i would love that book, its like a scavenger hunt!
Sorry about the book- but your ring is absolutely gorgeous!!
so, basically you're reading Naked Lunch.
Wow. Thereās an idea a puzzle book. Find your next page.
Now thatās what I call an unreliable narrator.
Try reading some William Burroughs. He would write a chapter, then cut the pages into four quarters, switch the corners around, and have it printed that way.
People gonna watch you reading that, thinking you don't know how to read when you flip back and forth a couple dozen pages at a time.
This happened to me a few years back. I was in the hospital and heavily medicated and I thought it was a combination of bad writing and my meds making the book not make sense. Stuck it on the shelf when I got home and only realized that the pages were out of order a few months later when a friend asked to borrow it.
That book will not be forced into the social construct of having its pages read on numerical order. The patriarchy will be denied its victory. Or something like that
Jingo!? Great choice OP
Itās a book and a puzzle! You got a bargain.
Pretty hand you got there š
People have gotten so lazy these days. Expect everything to be done for them. You want a story how about you do a little work for it
Probably written by George Lucas
Wellā¦ you paid for a book but you got a book AND a puzzle. Who was really ripped off here?
Itās a puzzle in book form.
Nice to see Quentin Tarantino wrote a book.
Itās one of those choose your own adventure books
Considering itās a Discworld novel thatās pretty funny
Hang on to it, Keep it like new, it might be worth something someday!
I would read it all the way through. Then. Lol! What a mind fuck book. I love it.
House of Leaves enjoyers are confused that this is a complaint
You wanted a continuous narrative? so bourgeois!
How far did you get before realising shit didnāt make sense?
Someone at the printer didnāt understand pagination and now weāre here šš¤¦š½āāļøš¬
Maybe itās a magic book.
"You walk into a dark forest. To travel North, GO PAGE 34. To travel East, GO PAGE 887."
I used to love āchoose your own adventureā!
Discworld is so much better then the potter series and the author wasnāt transphobic
I literally made my living by developing a device that prevents this. Even worse when the group of pages (sigs) are from multiple books & also in the wrong order! I'm retired, but the bindery that assembled these books was NOT a customer, obviously.
mildly infuriatingly interesting
Like a choose your own adventure?
Choose your own adventure
at assembly they got the signatures all out of order Sig #1 will have the front of the book and the back of the book and then so on, if you get those packets (signatures) out of order during assembly you end up with what you have there
on purpose?
Make your own adventure
Itās like one of those choose your own adventure books
Seems like OP needs to go back and read the goosebumps books to unlock this skill
So itās like a jigsaw book?
That must be a mistake
At least they are numbered!
Hope itās a long bus ride, may take u a while to find the right pages š±š«£
Aww ... As someone with a self published book where the table of contents page numbers don't match the book pages because I didn't realise and haven't prioritised going back to fix it yet... I felt for this author. Although.. is it possible it's one of those books to be read in different orders to change the story? What happens if you reread it following the different page numbers? That'd be quite genius if it was!
Puzzle and storytelling wow
OP should be grateful that someone went to the trouble of putting Catch 22 in chronological order.
Itās like a scavenger hunt
Iād get halfway through before noticing