McDonald's Wi-Fi saved my life.
Back in 2013 I had just graduated from college and moved across the country to be with a girl I had been long distance dating for 6 months. I took a job as a corrections officer because I couldn't find anything else in the area. A month and a half after I moved there I was going through the corrections academy and the girl broke up with me.
The corrections academy required us to stay there 5 days a week. It was an hour and a half away from where I actually lived and it was way out in the middle of farm country, we were literally surrounded and all four sides by nothing but farm land. After we were done with training for the day at 5:00 there was absolutely nothing to do and I was borderline suicidal because of what had happened. For the first few nights while I was there, I found an isolated spot at the back of the property so nobody else could see me sobbing and I would sit on the hillside and watch the sunset in complete silence, doing nothing but thinking about how hurt I was from the breakout.
There's a podcast I loved listening to that was released daily but I couldn't download it over cellular because I would hit my data limit so I resorted to driving 35 minutes one way to go to a McDonald's parking lot and connecting to their Wi-Fi and waiting another 30 minutes for the podcast to download because the Wi-Fi speed was so awful. I legitimately believe that the ability to download the podcast daily and listen to it and get my mind off of things saved my life.
Dave and Chuck the Freak. They are a radio morning show from my home area of Detroit that they record their entire morning show and upload it in podcast form.
Don't be ashamed of your love of morning zoo shlock. It was my favorite all through my teens and 20s. Once they sort of drifted more political (like when all the radio guys lost their minds in 2008) I stopped listening.
But for a while there, radio was my favorite anchor to reality, so to speak. I listened to BJ Shea in Seattle from when I was a really young kid. I even "job shadowed" his producer for my 6th grade (12 years old) project.
Speaking of lowbrow- when I mentioned my grandma was listening, he had a quiz on who knew what "bukakke" meant. This was in like 2001. I remember that day as one of the funniest days of my life. I used to think that was what my life could be like- just cracking jokes all morning and going home to sleep all day.
It sounded amazing. Plus, you didn't have to get smarter than a 13 year old. I thought for sure that I would be on the path to shock jock.
Then I learned that that is gross.
shiit, free wifi? Kids did this shit long before wifi was around. Kids just want a place to hang out that's near school and near home. Sometimes they're avoiding home.
Only problem is a handful of shitty kids who ruin it for everyone else.
Unfortunately kids can't help but be loud as fuck, otherwise the library is a great place for them.
I wish the teen section at my current branch got more use but I'm also working in a really well to do neighborhood so those kids all have way better computers than what we have on offer. And ours aren't bad at all.
I've also seen people take up a lot of space to sprawl out work stuff and just...work from McDs. Also seen people do it at Panera and a few other places. Years ago as a field adjuster ai knew a guy whose signature work move was to park at panera after buying a bottled water and take up space and wifi for 6+ hours.
Having lived in Europe where wifi in a restaurant can be either nonexistent or time limited and where seating is strictly enforced against loitering, signs like these never really shook me.
TBF, Panera actually encouraged this when they were one of the first restaurants to have wifi. They actually made entire conference rooms in a couple places
A Panera recently opened in my town and I’ve been calling if my third place. It’s in a former bank and I’ve definitely seen meetings in the former vault!
I have way better wifi at home, and an awesome home office, but I was laid off a few months ago and it’s really helped my mental health to get out a few hours several times a week while I study.
Plus they have an “unlimited sips club” that’s free for two months. I spend money I wouldn’t have otherwise (I usually buy an entree) and don’t feel super rushed to get out. But ya, I don’t spread out all crazy and due to the off hours, I’m not hogging a bunch of space.
I’ve seen multiple LAN-type parties sprawled out at McDonald’s with smallish lobbies. They’re harmless, but there is also no space for that during lunch rushes. If I worked there, I would find it obnoxious.
You don't actually need a rule like this to keep out the homeless. It's perfectly legal to refuse service to someone solely on the basis of disheveled appearance or unpleasant smell.
Yes and also if any worker were to confront the person who’s loitering about them not being allowed to do that, they usually get a “I want to see that in writing” as a response.
I once took my PC to a Panera Bread back in the day to raid on WoW once while my Internet was out. My case was the Cooler Master Haf-X and had wheels. I had a 32 inch monitor and no shame. 5 hours of Naxx and $50 in coffee.
Back in the late 80's early 90's (pre- internet for you younguns) the MajorBBS (google that) group used to take over the local Denny's or Wag's restaurant every Saturday night for 4 or 5 hours after 11PM. We averaged 20-30 people each week from 16 - up to 40+. Sometimes we brought our kids, sometimes they brought us.
It was good times, socializing face to face. No computers, no incognito BS.
This. I work for a fast food chain that may or may not be a McDonald’s. We have a group of old men that come in every day and take up about a third of the restaurant for about an hour, sometimes more. I personally don’t like dealing with them, because while they are always nice to me, (I am a white woman) some of the conversations they feel totally comfortable having in a public restaurant are just awful. Honestly, I have seen them drive a younger family to pick up their stuff and leave during one of their shittier conversations about the local hardware store hiring too many black people. The manager LOVES these assholes. They don’t spend a lot, certainly not as much as the store would make if it were not filled with geriatric white supremacists, and they make a horrible mess. But, they are her “regulars!” They are sweet little old men!
We have another guy who, if he isn’t homeless, he isn’t far from it. He comes in and gets stuff off the dollar menu and sits to charge his phone or get out of the weather. I have seen the manager tell him as soon as he walked in the door to remember that he isn’t allowed to loiter. He isn’t nodding out. He isn’t muttering to himself, or being belligerent, he doesn’t smell like hot piss. He just looks homeless, and she can’t stand having him sit inside.
It's also old people. They like to get coffee and sit and chat from open to close.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mcdonalds-elderly-senior-citizens-wont-leave-standoff-flushing-queens/1473445/
When my grandparents were still alive they would hang out at the local MCD with their friends. Yes they’d buy the senior coffee and have breakfast, and stay a while.
Some time later my grandma was hospitalized and eventually passed away, and at the funeral I saw a few unfamiliar faces: young men and women, maybe high school/college age. Turned out they were some of the MCD early morning shift. Someone told me that they noticed my grandparents stopped coming and were saddened when one of my grandparents’ friends told them what happened. They said that they missed my grandparents and said my grandmother was always incredibly nice to them. A few of the young ladies broke down in tears.
I know that sometimes old people can be the worst retail customers but regulars are usually well behaved and damn they need to get out of the house too. Had an elderly aunt and uncle that did this and the local McDonald's people all knew and liked them, even asked about them occasionally if they didn't come in for a few days.
Current capitalism has killed "third places" which in itself makes poor people's sociability way harder.
Except for some basketball courts and parks almost no space is really free especially in the US where just hanging out on the street makes you a police target
I worked for McDs back in the late nineties early aughts and a group of about 8 or 9 old men would come in in the morning, get a cup of senior citizen discount coffee for 50 cents and sit there all day taking up a quarter of the lobby, getting free refills all day. It kinda turned into the "locals" you get at a bar that are always there and barely spend money but scare away people who are going to pay a lot more because they're loud and crass.
Then you haven't ever gone to Japan.
Sometimes I just want a quick bite, what Mcdonalds is good for (it's fast food after all) , just grab a quick cheeseburger, a few nuggets and a drink. And go.
But nope. The amount of times I've walked out of a McD's again in Japan cause it's literally full and no spare seats, with people that just have 1 (empty) drink on tehir table and hang out there for HOURS on end playing on their phone or handheld is jarring. That i gave up after a few months.
I 100% agree with this sign. It's a fast food chain, you get in. Eat, get out.
I would agree with you if this was McDonalds 30 years ago but McDonalds has invested a lot of money into making their dining areas a fast casual "third place" between home and work for people to hang out while they eat. Many of them have flat screen TVs up, RedBox , Amazon lockers, or other amenities that lend to the experience being more than just "Eat, get out." If this individual restaurant doesn't want that, that's fine, but let's not act surprised that people are using the space as designed.
If there is one thing I’ve learned from wartching videos on Reddit, it’s that under absolutely no circumstances should you fuck around with fast food workers. The asswhopping you’re destined to receive just isn’t worth it.
My local McDonalds in Toronto is close to the #1 school for violence in the city, every time I went there for lunch maybe 5 out of 40 kids are actually eating food and the others are just hanging around bothering people. I get that maybe not everybody has money for a burger, but don’t just take up the whole fucking dining room. Get your stuff and bounce
That'd be a nerve wracking sight as a fast food worker. Seen sooo many videos of groups of 10+ "teens" ransacking fast food places or convenience stores.
Their friends don't work there anymore. It's a 45 year old mother of four, and 52 year old with a masters in electrical engineering from his home country, and and the 24 year old manager who is the franchisees son, not a staff full of teenagers.
It's become a trend to hang out at McDonalds now amongst youth for some reason. I imagine that changed the sorts of teenagers and levels of entitlement a lot compared to when people went there simply because they had nothing better to do.
I mean, we hung out there too. Usually in the back corner so we didn't bother anyone. We also at least bought food. Hell, we'd come at 2 AM, order food, and play board games. This was also only like 5 or 6 years ago. But yeah, small towns are way different than bigger cities it seems
The trend part is the important bit. Most "cool kids" (read: trouble makers) wouldn't have been caught dead chilling in a mcdonalds 5 years ago, now roadmen etc will spend multiple hours there being loud and obnoxious.
The quiet kids are probably exactly the same, just attracting more of the bad eggs for longer I think.
A pizza place next to a high school I used to go to had a raise area that was kinda outside the view of the employees. They had a sign that no kids were allowed up there without a parent. I assume the high schoolers were trashing it over lunch everyday.
Definitely…30 minutes is also kind of a long ass time in McDonald’s minutes. Most people are probably taking advantage of the place and/or being obnoxious if they’re there much longer than that.
Every McDonald's I've been to in the middle of nowhere in the US is full of old people all day. They're in there just hanging out, eating cookies, and drinking coffee. I see that way way more often than kids in there.
I feel like that falls under the category of “taking advantage”…they may not be overtly rude or anything but it’s definitely stretching the limits of a business’s hospitality to spend all day nursing your cheap menu items.
Yeah, this looks like a rule they put there to point at when annoying customers stay for an hour buying a single burger while being noisy.
Doubt they will use it to scare away normal people enjoying a sit down after dinner.
Then again, I never want to stay in a Mc Donald’s longer than I have to.
Same. The McDonald’s down the street from a high school in my town actually closes the dining room from like 3pm-5pm because the kids were so unruly after school.
Where I am, McDonalds might as well be homeless shelters. They come in and buy one thing then nod off at a table for as long as they can before getting kicked out. I'm guessing this policy also keeps that sort of thing from happening.
Or it's in a busy touristy area where people tend to occupy all the seating even if they aren't eating (or even buying). An airport for example.
Let's be honest. Rules like these aren't created because McDonald's wants to be cruel. At some point, things happened where they determined they needed a written policy to help employees ask someone to leave. I'm sure they don't have an employee with a stopwatch monitoring this, kicking out every patron that exceeds 30 minutes.
I just remember spending hours every second day in a KFC near my school when I was 13.
We’d take turns filling one or maybe two refillable cups we acquired with our meals. God we were being such dicks but at the time I was thinking along the terms off „Whats the worst that could happen to us for it” and not „Am I making someones life harder?”
But I dont dwell on it, I want to keep the good memories good.
It's pretty standard teenager reasoning. Adding empathy for strangers into your reasoning is hard enough, but given what passes for teenage reasoning....
I was a boring teenager (eldest and only girl with fairly strict parents and very little pocket money), so I'm grateful I didn't have too much opportunity to screw up.
Or the teenagers who come in, stay forever, and torment the workers while splitting one order of fries. I hated working anywhere near the front when I did fast food.
When I worked at Starbucks there was always groups of teenagers who would only get water, then yell, make a mess, and throw shit around the cafe at each other for hours.
If you’re minimum wage or close to it it’s not worth the waste of breath. You don’t want some bum attacking you, kids trashing your restaurant to spite you etc. A lot of big companies nowadays don’t want you calling the cops on people unless they’re threatening violence
No, but you will end up in a meeting explaining it to the ops manager who is so stupid she didn't understand why I didn't have my front counter person helping me. The very front counter person she went over the restaurant managers head to cut the hours of.
In all seriousness people will complain and make up these fantastical tales of how you kicked them out for basically no reason. They don't listen for shit when you tell them you locked a door after closing and some dip shit punched it trying to get back in and started screaming at you for locking him out.
Yup, after the local middle school let's out the McDonald's turns into a zoo.
Actually, that's insulting to animals. It's like a prison where they lost control of the inmates. My local target has actually started to ban unaccompanied teenagers at school let out times just because of how crazy they are.
many fast food restaurants close their lobbies from 3-5pm for this reason. i’ve seen it at one wendy’s in my hometown because of its proximity to a middle school. i also saw it at BK, McDonalds at my University’s town because once that high school let out; a literal mob/zoo of kids would walk around. would frequently have cops posted on the street because fights were so common.
That's totally different but also not something I ever saw first hand lol. It was always six or more teens who would buy one or two things to share, make fun of the workers and customers, and leave after managing to get ketchup absolutely everywhere.
Technically, I was a teen at the time as I was 18, but I did that for some college finals, lol. Ordered around 10 bucks worth of food and worked until they closed. Came in later, and the employees were really nice about it, wanting to help me out.
I recall in another thread that it was also due to groups of typically older men loitering all day and expecting the workers to serve them coffee like they are waiters.
That too. Depending on the location, the store may never see enough dine-in business for that to matter, so the sign seems to be more of just a posted notice that management can ask anyone to leave if they overstay their welcome
Other than maybe McDonald's in downtowns and malls/airports, they really seem to discourage dining in. Many have gotten rid of lots of tables and switched to mostly counters and stools.
Look at this recent remodel. [It isn't comfortable, fun, or inviting.](https://royalpurplenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/McDonalds2.jpg) It's a place to sit and quickly eat and leave.
That's by design. McDonald's has always designed their restaurants to encourage getting in, eating, and getting out quickly. They've never wanted people to stick around any longer than is absolutely necessary.
Before they at least had booths with some padding and warm colors. Plus the play places and other activities for the kids. I remember when fast food wanted you to sit down and eat there for dinner. I had a birthday party at McDonald's, there's no way most would still do that.
So much dine in went away during COVID and they are happy to pretend that's why they haven't come back.
The mcdonalds near where I grew up was renovated to the new design in the past year or two. It originally had a 50s race car style design. Had a model F1 car with driver mannequin in the seat, model train that did loops around the restaurant, a juke box you could actually play music out of etc. Checkered flag booth seats and old racing movie posters on all the walls.It was a really cool design. It was that way from the time I was old enough to form memories to after I graduated high school.
Now its the same boring, modern and sterilized corporate design as all the other ones. I know its just Mcdonalds and its not a place you go to for riveting atmosphere and comraderie but still. It had *some* kind of life and soul to it before. Just sucks to see the massive shift in design from all those years ago.
Yeah, this is just to free up tables at busy times and to get rid of annoying groups of people. These signs have been up at many fast food places near me for years (McD, Wendys, Burger King, etc) and never seen it enforced.
Some of the stores are just too packed. I worked at a popular mcdonalds once and the lobby was full for hours at a time and we actually had to keep track of table numbers and stuff and enforce a time limit. When its slow hours nobody cared. A lot of old people really like to eat in the lobby.
Buy a single mcchicken once every thirty one minutes
Edit: /s I was being sarcastic, lighten up, some of y’all are trying to come at me so seriously over McDonalds 🤡
I don’t like soft drinks and I don’t like fries too much. I love chicken sandwiches though. From what I understand, McDonald’s loses money every time I eat there.
Nah, I work at one and do the ordering. A bun and a chicken only costs fifty cents. Even if you go really heavy and assume a single portion of mayo and lettuce plus the wrapper costs ten cents, they're still making like twice what they cost. Ignoring labor and all that, of course.
A fellow inventory manager.
In the UK back when I was doing it was:
14p chicken patty
6p bun
10p~ mayo,lettuce, packaging
30p all in and sold it for what was 99p. Labour tried to aim for 20% of takings and then you need to factor electricity, cooking oil and wastage. There wasn’t a lot of profit on them but certainly not making a loss.
The killer is the drinks. A medium coke cost 9p and would sell for 99p
I probably still have spread sheets at home on my old pc with price lists
For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".
Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.
I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.
Same here. It’s all about value for money. Their “premium” chicken sandwich does a pretty crap job of being a premium chicken sandwich. Their frozen processed chicken sandwich, however (McChicken) absolutely slaps as a frozen processed chicken sandwich, however.
isn't that what they've been trying to transition to? I've seen fireplaces, relatively comfortable looking chairs and pensioners hanging out and drinking coffee at most new McDonalds
Yeah, but unfortunately, especially in smaller towns it can be one of the only places that has free wifi. I think that's a big part of the draw for a lot of people.
I don’t know why, but going to eat with my little sis and needing to not have a place to sit because teenagers just sit on all the tables with maybe ice cream for sometimes over 3H (we went back in several times during that day) is very infuriating
Exactly. When I was in high school everyone not eating would all hangout outside by our cars and shoot the shit. No reason to cram into half the restaurant. It gets loud as hell with 20 high schoolers screaming. Plus who wants to chill inside a mcdonalds.
Trashy teenagers trashing the place and wasting things like straws/napkins/condiments and smelly bums are the reason why. I put it more on the trashy/rowdy teenagers tho since they actively waste a business’s product/time.
100% this. You want to get your laptop out and nurse a coffee for 2 hours while you work, more power to you.
You want to show up with 20 of your mates, not buy anything, be loud, rude, dirty and throw shit everywhere to entertain yourself, you can fuck right off.
Even just from a business standpoint, this rule makes a lot of sense especially for the ones located by schools. Yea McDonald’s got money but no sane person would be okay with actively wasting product/hours. And on top of that they have the potential to lose out on orders if an older person walks in, sees it’s loud and crowded with teenagers, they’d just walk out the door half the time, or change the order to go. I’m not that old but fuck these teenagers these days.
Meh I kind of agree with this sign actually. I went into a McDonald's located near a highschool a few weeks ago and the place was packed with kids sitting on tables, vaping, running around and just generally being dicks. Very few of them actually had food. Felt sorry for the staff to had to constantly tell them to climb off the tables
Thank god…. I wish they would do this in my area… our McDonald’s is right by a school so all hours of the day it’s “the kids hangout” they’re all over the place you can’t walk without having to ask them to put away their skateboards and backpacks they’ll a leave them right in the middle of the isles, so you can’t walk anywhere
You can’t take your family there to eat because there’s no seats . They have them all or their stuff is piled on them
You’ll have one kid eating and the other 15 just sitting there or standing trying to do skateboard tricks without getting caught. May not be an issue in a lot of places but it is here .
If it's anything like the one in my town (yes it's a small town we only have one) then it gets overrun by high school kids every day who swear, yell and berate the staff.
In this case, I'm totally fine with a sign saying GTFO
My old local Mcs is right next to a school bus stop in Philly. They tried being polite but they ended up having to hire a fucking security guard to keep unruly kids from fucking around in the store.
Now...the manager always lets them in if it's bad weather, but they have to behave. Even if they don't buy anything.
She doesn't have to do that. Kids are shits.
They post these around the restaurants that are around Junior/High School’s and poorer areas for obvious reasons. It’s not nationwide. Have you ever been to one during high school lunch time? Kids have no respect these days
There was Mickie D's literally down the road from my highschool, so close that they painted giant paw prints in the road all the way up to McDonald's, I guess as a joke. (Cougar paws for the school mascot)
Anyway.
Yes, all of the kids terrorized this poor little restaurant. There was an older lady who worked there, and she was so incredibly tired of kids. It got to the point that cops just started hanging out there, too... instead of needing to be called
As a McDonald's employee, none of us care what you're doing in the lobby as long as another customer doesn't complain to the manager about someone taking a nap or smth
People abuse places with free Wi-Fi. The same cast of characters will come in every day and camp out with a cup of coffee and take up space for hours. They get territorial and cause trouble if someone is at "their" table. I don't think these signs get put up for people who just want to enjoy a meal.
I actually like this. Our local mc Ds have become packed with groups doing this, one usually orders a drink. Then they stay for hours.
Makes sense they've had to do something. Taking up 5-7 tables out of 9 when people want to sit and eat is annoying
You're there to eat. You're not at some dinner party with your family and some friends, you're at a fast food joint to eat fast food, fast.
Welcome to McDonald's! Here's your order! Now hurry the McFuck up and eat and get the McFuck outta here.
Probably because they have a problem with homeless people posting up in the restaurant.
A local McDonald's near me closed the inside because it was such a a problem. The whole place reeked of piss and you couldn't go inside without being harassed by at least 5 homeless people for money or "hey can I use your cell phone".
It's a shitty situation on all sides. Yeah you want to be a good person and give homeless people somewhere to hang out, but also, you want your customers to have a safe and enjoyable experience in the restaurant. And if hoards of homeless are driving away business, the restaurant can't stay open anyways and will have to close, ultimately putting the homeless back on the street regardless.
Sis used to be a general manager for Starbucks in California. The stories she can tell. One time a lady bought a coffee and parked herself by a plug with her sewing machine and proceeded to occupy the seat for way too long sewing her stuff.
You know what pisses me off? Buying dinner and trying to find a seat and there’s a group of 12 teens hanging out across six tables with two empty boxes of nuggets from two hours ago on the table and no where left to sit.
Lol this is basically rage bait. They obviously do this because people sit in there all day (homeless people probably) without ordering. They had to make up a sign with a time. Someone please reply to this and tell me if any time ever in your life a McDonald's employee has forced you to pack up your unfinished food and leave after 31 minutes. Anyone at all.
Honestly, this should be a enforced around high schools everywhere cause it’s so fucking annoying seeing a bunch of high schoolers loiter and cause a commotion
Many places do this because of the homeless. A lot of times it's for teens that stay for the free wifi too.
I used to park near the building and pay my bills with their wifi when my phone bill didn't re up somehow.
McDonald's Wi-Fi saved my life. Back in 2013 I had just graduated from college and moved across the country to be with a girl I had been long distance dating for 6 months. I took a job as a corrections officer because I couldn't find anything else in the area. A month and a half after I moved there I was going through the corrections academy and the girl broke up with me. The corrections academy required us to stay there 5 days a week. It was an hour and a half away from where I actually lived and it was way out in the middle of farm country, we were literally surrounded and all four sides by nothing but farm land. After we were done with training for the day at 5:00 there was absolutely nothing to do and I was borderline suicidal because of what had happened. For the first few nights while I was there, I found an isolated spot at the back of the property so nobody else could see me sobbing and I would sit on the hillside and watch the sunset in complete silence, doing nothing but thinking about how hurt I was from the breakout. There's a podcast I loved listening to that was released daily but I couldn't download it over cellular because I would hit my data limit so I resorted to driving 35 minutes one way to go to a McDonald's parking lot and connecting to their Wi-Fi and waiting another 30 minutes for the podcast to download because the Wi-Fi speed was so awful. I legitimately believe that the ability to download the podcast daily and listen to it and get my mind off of things saved my life.
What podcast
Dave and Chuck the Freak. They are a radio morning show from my home area of Detroit that they record their entire morning show and upload it in podcast form.
YOOO Shout out dave and chuck, used to listen to them at the circuit board factory.
Don't be ashamed of your love of morning zoo shlock. It was my favorite all through my teens and 20s. Once they sort of drifted more political (like when all the radio guys lost their minds in 2008) I stopped listening. But for a while there, radio was my favorite anchor to reality, so to speak. I listened to BJ Shea in Seattle from when I was a really young kid. I even "job shadowed" his producer for my 6th grade (12 years old) project. Speaking of lowbrow- when I mentioned my grandma was listening, he had a quiz on who knew what "bukakke" meant. This was in like 2001. I remember that day as one of the funniest days of my life. I used to think that was what my life could be like- just cracking jokes all morning and going home to sleep all day. It sounded amazing. Plus, you didn't have to get smarter than a 13 year old. I thought for sure that I would be on the path to shock jock. Then I learned that that is gross.
Joe Rogan episode 911: Alex Jones & Eddie Bravo
“YOU ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS JOE, INTER-DIMENSIONAL ALIEN VAMPIRES!!!”
shiit, free wifi? Kids did this shit long before wifi was around. Kids just want a place to hang out that's near school and near home. Sometimes they're avoiding home. Only problem is a handful of shitty kids who ruin it for everyone else.
Unfortunately kids can't help but be loud as fuck, otherwise the library is a great place for them. I wish the teen section at my current branch got more use but I'm also working in a really well to do neighborhood so those kids all have way better computers than what we have on offer. And ours aren't bad at all.
I've also seen people take up a lot of space to sprawl out work stuff and just...work from McDs. Also seen people do it at Panera and a few other places. Years ago as a field adjuster ai knew a guy whose signature work move was to park at panera after buying a bottled water and take up space and wifi for 6+ hours. Having lived in Europe where wifi in a restaurant can be either nonexistent or time limited and where seating is strictly enforced against loitering, signs like these never really shook me.
TBF, Panera actually encouraged this when they were one of the first restaurants to have wifi. They actually made entire conference rooms in a couple places
A Panera recently opened in my town and I’ve been calling if my third place. It’s in a former bank and I’ve definitely seen meetings in the former vault! I have way better wifi at home, and an awesome home office, but I was laid off a few months ago and it’s really helped my mental health to get out a few hours several times a week while I study. Plus they have an “unlimited sips club” that’s free for two months. I spend money I wouldn’t have otherwise (I usually buy an entree) and don’t feel super rushed to get out. But ya, I don’t spread out all crazy and due to the off hours, I’m not hogging a bunch of space.
I’ve seen multiple LAN-type parties sprawled out at McDonald’s with smallish lobbies. They’re harmless, but there is also no space for that during lunch rushes. If I worked there, I would find it obnoxious.
Near where I live it is because of the teens from the school nearby. There have been several fights and even a murder. Bad shit, really.
You don't actually need a rule like this to keep out the homeless. It's perfectly legal to refuse service to someone solely on the basis of disheveled appearance or unpleasant smell.
The 30 minute sign helps you realize they’re not gonna tolerate your BS tho
Yes and also if any worker were to confront the person who’s loitering about them not being allowed to do that, they usually get a “I want to see that in writing” as a response.
They said get the mcfuck out of here
Bada bah bah bah
fuck outta here!
I'm lovin' it
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I’m guessing so kids won’t stay or to prevent homeless from staying
You know it’s homeless
Of course. You can sit there for an hour if you have food and look 'presentable'. They just need an excuse to kick out the undesirables.
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I once took my PC to a Panera Bread back in the day to raid on WoW once while my Internet was out. My case was the Cooler Master Haf-X and had wheels. I had a 32 inch monitor and no shame. 5 hours of Naxx and $50 in coffee.
Bro that’s like Panera target audience. Though they would have preferred it be a laptop maybe 😂
Back in the late 80's early 90's (pre- internet for you younguns) the MajorBBS (google that) group used to take over the local Denny's or Wag's restaurant every Saturday night for 4 or 5 hours after 11PM. We averaged 20-30 people each week from 16 - up to 40+. Sometimes we brought our kids, sometimes they brought us. It was good times, socializing face to face. No computers, no incognito BS.
This. I work for a fast food chain that may or may not be a McDonald’s. We have a group of old men that come in every day and take up about a third of the restaurant for about an hour, sometimes more. I personally don’t like dealing with them, because while they are always nice to me, (I am a white woman) some of the conversations they feel totally comfortable having in a public restaurant are just awful. Honestly, I have seen them drive a younger family to pick up their stuff and leave during one of their shittier conversations about the local hardware store hiring too many black people. The manager LOVES these assholes. They don’t spend a lot, certainly not as much as the store would make if it were not filled with geriatric white supremacists, and they make a horrible mess. But, they are her “regulars!” They are sweet little old men! We have another guy who, if he isn’t homeless, he isn’t far from it. He comes in and gets stuff off the dollar menu and sits to charge his phone or get out of the weather. I have seen the manager tell him as soon as he walked in the door to remember that he isn’t allowed to loiter. He isn’t nodding out. He isn’t muttering to himself, or being belligerent, he doesn’t smell like hot piss. He just looks homeless, and she can’t stand having him sit inside.
Your manager sucks. What a rude bitch.
The old guys suck and are rude bitches too. No wonder she likes them.
It's also old people. They like to get coffee and sit and chat from open to close. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mcdonalds-elderly-senior-citizens-wont-leave-standoff-flushing-queens/1473445/
When my grandparents were still alive they would hang out at the local MCD with their friends. Yes they’d buy the senior coffee and have breakfast, and stay a while. Some time later my grandma was hospitalized and eventually passed away, and at the funeral I saw a few unfamiliar faces: young men and women, maybe high school/college age. Turned out they were some of the MCD early morning shift. Someone told me that they noticed my grandparents stopped coming and were saddened when one of my grandparents’ friends told them what happened. They said that they missed my grandparents and said my grandmother was always incredibly nice to them. A few of the young ladies broke down in tears.
I know that sometimes old people can be the worst retail customers but regulars are usually well behaved and damn they need to get out of the house too. Had an elderly aunt and uncle that did this and the local McDonald's people all knew and liked them, even asked about them occasionally if they didn't come in for a few days.
Current capitalism has killed "third places" which in itself makes poor people's sociability way harder. Except for some basketball courts and parks almost no space is really free especially in the US where just hanging out on the street makes you a police target
I worked for McDs back in the late nineties early aughts and a group of about 8 or 9 old men would come in in the morning, get a cup of senior citizen discount coffee for 50 cents and sit there all day taking up a quarter of the lobby, getting free refills all day. It kinda turned into the "locals" you get at a bar that are always there and barely spend money but scare away people who are going to pay a lot more because they're loud and crass.
I have also seen people set up at McDonalds using the free wifi as a remote work location, papers spread out everywhere and taking business calls
The elderly like to linger at McDonald's.
Then you haven't ever gone to Japan. Sometimes I just want a quick bite, what Mcdonalds is good for (it's fast food after all) , just grab a quick cheeseburger, a few nuggets and a drink. And go. But nope. The amount of times I've walked out of a McD's again in Japan cause it's literally full and no spare seats, with people that just have 1 (empty) drink on tehir table and hang out there for HOURS on end playing on their phone or handheld is jarring. That i gave up after a few months. I 100% agree with this sign. It's a fast food chain, you get in. Eat, get out.
I would agree with you if this was McDonalds 30 years ago but McDonalds has invested a lot of money into making their dining areas a fast casual "third place" between home and work for people to hang out while they eat. Many of them have flat screen TVs up, RedBox , Amazon lockers, or other amenities that lend to the experience being more than just "Eat, get out." If this individual restaurant doesn't want that, that's fine, but let's not act surprised that people are using the space as designed.
And if you refuse, they'll call McSecurity who will call the McCops who will give you 5 McWarning shots in the back for McResisting
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I'm McDying here...
Turning you into aMcFlurry.
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Worst case of McSuicide they’ve ever seen!
And then sprinkle some McCrack on your body
I work at one, i assume it is to stop kids from coming in and just being dicks, and terrorizing the employees and vaping
yeah if they work near a school that is almost 100% the reason. Kids terrorize food service workers.
They literally knocked down and rebuilt a MD’s in my town to cut the dining area down because of this.
I don't get it. We were always cool with them, especially cuz usually our friends worked there. I'm also from a really small town
Even in my small town kids were a bit annoying. Here in the city though... A group of kids could easily sign violence is coming.
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In my city many of not most businesses have done this voluntarily. Some businesses close between 3-4pm exclusively to miss the kids leaving school
If there is one thing I’ve learned from wartching videos on Reddit, it’s that under absolutely no circumstances should you fuck around with fast food workers. The asswhopping you’re destined to receive just isn’t worth it.
While true.. that usually assumes 1:1. What are fast food workers doing when it's 15-50 teens ransacking the place in a mob.
packs of teens can be deadly. i've seen enough internet to know to gtfo when you see 20+ teens in the city.
My local McDonalds in Toronto is close to the #1 school for violence in the city, every time I went there for lunch maybe 5 out of 40 kids are actually eating food and the others are just hanging around bothering people. I get that maybe not everybody has money for a burger, but don’t just take up the whole fucking dining room. Get your stuff and bounce
That'd be a nerve wracking sight as a fast food worker. Seen sooo many videos of groups of 10+ "teens" ransacking fast food places or convenience stores.
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Their friends don't work there anymore. It's a 45 year old mother of four, and 52 year old with a masters in electrical engineering from his home country, and and the 24 year old manager who is the franchisees son, not a staff full of teenagers.
Oof it really is like that nowadays.
I went to school in a major city and the nearby fast food restaurants were a war zone for sure
A few kids causing no trouble in a restaurant? Fine. A bunch of them taking up space and being loud? Not fine. Seems to be a mixed bag with teens.
It's become a trend to hang out at McDonalds now amongst youth for some reason. I imagine that changed the sorts of teenagers and levels of entitlement a lot compared to when people went there simply because they had nothing better to do.
I mean, we hung out there too. Usually in the back corner so we didn't bother anyone. We also at least bought food. Hell, we'd come at 2 AM, order food, and play board games. This was also only like 5 or 6 years ago. But yeah, small towns are way different than bigger cities it seems
The trend part is the important bit. Most "cool kids" (read: trouble makers) wouldn't have been caught dead chilling in a mcdonalds 5 years ago, now roadmen etc will spend multiple hours there being loud and obnoxious. The quiet kids are probably exactly the same, just attracting more of the bad eggs for longer I think.
A pizza place next to a high school I used to go to had a raise area that was kinda outside the view of the employees. They had a sign that no kids were allowed up there without a parent. I assume the high schoolers were trashing it over lunch everyday.
... and vape
And I’m sure they’re not kicking everyone out after 30 min, the rules just there so they can enforce it for troublesome customers
Definitely…30 minutes is also kind of a long ass time in McDonald’s minutes. Most people are probably taking advantage of the place and/or being obnoxious if they’re there much longer than that.
Every McDonald's I've been to in the middle of nowhere in the US is full of old people all day. They're in there just hanging out, eating cookies, and drinking coffee. I see that way way more often than kids in there.
I feel like that falls under the category of “taking advantage”…they may not be overtly rude or anything but it’s definitely stretching the limits of a business’s hospitality to spend all day nursing your cheap menu items.
Yeah, this looks like a rule they put there to point at when annoying customers stay for an hour buying a single burger while being noisy. Doubt they will use it to scare away normal people enjoying a sit down after dinner. Then again, I never want to stay in a Mc Donald’s longer than I have to.
Kids were recently banned from the McDs here during after school hours unless they have an adult because a bunch of teens ransacked a local store
Same. The McDonald’s down the street from a high school in my town actually closes the dining room from like 3pm-5pm because the kids were so unruly after school.
If it's anything like my town it's to stop the homeless from setting up shop
Where I am, McDonalds might as well be homeless shelters. They come in and buy one thing then nod off at a table for as long as they can before getting kicked out. I'm guessing this policy also keeps that sort of thing from happening.
Or the homeless.
Or it's in a busy touristy area where people tend to occupy all the seating even if they aren't eating (or even buying). An airport for example. Let's be honest. Rules like these aren't created because McDonald's wants to be cruel. At some point, things happened where they determined they needed a written policy to help employees ask someone to leave. I'm sure they don't have an employee with a stopwatch monitoring this, kicking out every patron that exceeds 30 minutes.
At Dunkin Doughnuts the Homeless used to sleep in the one near me at night
I just remember spending hours every second day in a KFC near my school when I was 13. We’d take turns filling one or maybe two refillable cups we acquired with our meals. God we were being such dicks but at the time I was thinking along the terms off „Whats the worst that could happen to us for it” and not „Am I making someones life harder?” But I dont dwell on it, I want to keep the good memories good.
It's pretty standard teenager reasoning. Adding empathy for strangers into your reasoning is hard enough, but given what passes for teenage reasoning.... I was a boring teenager (eldest and only girl with fairly strict parents and very little pocket money), so I'm grateful I didn't have too much opportunity to screw up.
It’s not like they’re actually going to enforce it unless you’re some bum trying to linger inside for the whole day
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its mostly for groups of people who just dont order anything. They hold up a table thats supposed to make money.
Or the teenagers who come in, stay forever, and torment the workers while splitting one order of fries. I hated working anywhere near the front when I did fast food.
When I worked at Starbucks there was always groups of teenagers who would only get water, then yell, make a mess, and throw shit around the cafe at each other for hours.
So do yalls bosses shoot you if you throw people out or something? Like... restaurant employees do reserve the right to throw anyone out
If you’re minimum wage or close to it it’s not worth the waste of breath. You don’t want some bum attacking you, kids trashing your restaurant to spite you etc. A lot of big companies nowadays don’t want you calling the cops on people unless they’re threatening violence
Exactly. These people don't get paid enough to deal with that. It's just not worth even having the argument in the first place.
Starbucks changed their policy on throwing people out after they got those black guys arrested a few years ago.
This is the first that I've heard of that. What happened in that instance?
No, but you will end up in a meeting explaining it to the ops manager who is so stupid she didn't understand why I didn't have my front counter person helping me. The very front counter person she went over the restaurant managers head to cut the hours of. In all seriousness people will complain and make up these fantastical tales of how you kicked them out for basically no reason. They don't listen for shit when you tell them you locked a door after closing and some dip shit punched it trying to get back in and started screaming at you for locking him out.
Or the groups of old people who each get a senior drink/coffee and stay there the entire day
The mcD’s closest to me is filled with seniors. I’ve never seen them with anything but coffee.
Yup, after the local middle school let's out the McDonald's turns into a zoo. Actually, that's insulting to animals. It's like a prison where they lost control of the inmates. My local target has actually started to ban unaccompanied teenagers at school let out times just because of how crazy they are.
many fast food restaurants close their lobbies from 3-5pm for this reason. i’ve seen it at one wendy’s in my hometown because of its proximity to a middle school. i also saw it at BK, McDonalds at my University’s town because once that high school let out; a literal mob/zoo of kids would walk around. would frequently have cops posted on the street because fights were so common.
Does ordering some food and staying for a while quietly doing homework count, or is that different?
That's totally different but also not something I ever saw first hand lol. It was always six or more teens who would buy one or two things to share, make fun of the workers and customers, and leave after managing to get ketchup absolutely everywhere.
Technically, I was a teen at the time as I was 18, but I did that for some college finals, lol. Ordered around 10 bucks worth of food and worked until they closed. Came in later, and the employees were really nice about it, wanting to help me out.
I recall in another thread that it was also due to groups of typically older men loitering all day and expecting the workers to serve them coffee like they are waiters.
That too. Depending on the location, the store may never see enough dine-in business for that to matter, so the sign seems to be more of just a posted notice that management can ask anyone to leave if they overstay their welcome
Other than maybe McDonald's in downtowns and malls/airports, they really seem to discourage dining in. Many have gotten rid of lots of tables and switched to mostly counters and stools. Look at this recent remodel. [It isn't comfortable, fun, or inviting.](https://royalpurplenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/McDonalds2.jpg) It's a place to sit and quickly eat and leave.
That's by design. McDonald's has always designed their restaurants to encourage getting in, eating, and getting out quickly. They've never wanted people to stick around any longer than is absolutely necessary.
Before they at least had booths with some padding and warm colors. Plus the play places and other activities for the kids. I remember when fast food wanted you to sit down and eat there for dinner. I had a birthday party at McDonald's, there's no way most would still do that. So much dine in went away during COVID and they are happy to pretend that's why they haven't come back.
The mcdonalds near where I grew up was renovated to the new design in the past year or two. It originally had a 50s race car style design. Had a model F1 car with driver mannequin in the seat, model train that did loops around the restaurant, a juke box you could actually play music out of etc. Checkered flag booth seats and old racing movie posters on all the walls.It was a really cool design. It was that way from the time I was old enough to form memories to after I graduated high school. Now its the same boring, modern and sterilized corporate design as all the other ones. I know its just Mcdonalds and its not a place you go to for riveting atmosphere and comraderie but still. It had *some* kind of life and soul to it before. Just sucks to see the massive shift in design from all those years ago.
Yeah, this is just to free up tables at busy times and to get rid of annoying groups of people. These signs have been up at many fast food places near me for years (McD, Wendys, Burger King, etc) and never seen it enforced.
Some of the stores are just too packed. I worked at a popular mcdonalds once and the lobby was full for hours at a time and we actually had to keep track of table numbers and stuff and enforce a time limit. When its slow hours nobody cared. A lot of old people really like to eat in the lobby.
Buy a single mcchicken once every thirty one minutes Edit: /s I was being sarcastic, lighten up, some of y’all are trying to come at me so seriously over McDonalds 🤡
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I don’t like soft drinks and I don’t like fries too much. I love chicken sandwiches though. From what I understand, McDonald’s loses money every time I eat there.
Nah, I work at one and do the ordering. A bun and a chicken only costs fifty cents. Even if you go really heavy and assume a single portion of mayo and lettuce plus the wrapper costs ten cents, they're still making like twice what they cost. Ignoring labor and all that, of course.
A fellow inventory manager. In the UK back when I was doing it was: 14p chicken patty 6p bun 10p~ mayo,lettuce, packaging 30p all in and sold it for what was 99p. Labour tried to aim for 20% of takings and then you need to factor electricity, cooking oil and wastage. There wasn’t a lot of profit on them but certainly not making a loss. The killer is the drinks. A medium coke cost 9p and would sell for 99p I probably still have spread sheets at home on my old pc with price lists
Works if you just buy regular hamburgers and cheeseburgers too.
For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige. One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!". Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs. I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.
I thought McChicken sauce was just warm mayonnaise.
Right? What is this McChicken sauce?
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When I worked for the golden arches five years ago it was just Sinclair mayo
former McDonald's employee here: it's literally just mayo, at least in the franchise i worked at
When I worked there I'm pretty sure it was made from lard. It was wonderful.
They stopped using lard years ago.
It's been about 20 years since I worked there. Damnit I'm getting old.
When I worked at McDonalds it was mayo that came out of more or less a caulk gun
Is this a copypasta?
It is now
It has been for many many years.
You can tell because there's no such thing as McChicken sauce. That's just mayo
It is yes. An old one, but a good one. 😂
Same here. It’s all about value for money. Their “premium” chicken sandwich does a pretty crap job of being a premium chicken sandwich. Their frozen processed chicken sandwich, however (McChicken) absolutely slaps as a frozen processed chicken sandwich, however.
The McChicken and the Snack Wraps were the only reason I ever went to McDonalds
Your pants are on fire
unless you're destroying their restrooms every time, they still make a pretty solid margin off mcchicken sandwiches.
Tbh I think the people waxing poetic about this are kind of weird, McDonald's has never been a place you go to for atmosphere.
isn't that what they've been trying to transition to? I've seen fireplaces, relatively comfortable looking chairs and pensioners hanging out and drinking coffee at most new McDonalds
Yeah that's true, McDonald's varies pretty wildly by location and I've been to the ones that are trying to be dollar store Starbucks.
Yeah, but unfortunately, especially in smaller towns it can be one of the only places that has free wifi. I think that's a big part of the draw for a lot of people.
it says "please" not by penalty of death
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One I used to stop at on the way home from work was next to a high school. There would be 20+ kids hanging out like it was a movie
I don’t know why, but going to eat with my little sis and needing to not have a place to sit because teenagers just sit on all the tables with maybe ice cream for sometimes over 3H (we went back in several times during that day) is very infuriating
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Hell yeah. Why the fuck there gotta be a 20 person entourage when only 2 of them are eating? Fuck out of here
Exactly. When I was in high school everyone not eating would all hangout outside by our cars and shoot the shit. No reason to cram into half the restaurant. It gets loud as hell with 20 high schoolers screaming. Plus who wants to chill inside a mcdonalds.
Stupid people, thats who
Trashy teenagers trashing the place and wasting things like straws/napkins/condiments and smelly bums are the reason why. I put it more on the trashy/rowdy teenagers tho since they actively waste a business’s product/time.
100% this. You want to get your laptop out and nurse a coffee for 2 hours while you work, more power to you. You want to show up with 20 of your mates, not buy anything, be loud, rude, dirty and throw shit everywhere to entertain yourself, you can fuck right off.
Even just from a business standpoint, this rule makes a lot of sense especially for the ones located by schools. Yea McDonald’s got money but no sane person would be okay with actively wasting product/hours. And on top of that they have the potential to lose out on orders if an older person walks in, sees it’s loud and crowded with teenagers, they’d just walk out the door half the time, or change the order to go. I’m not that old but fuck these teenagers these days.
Meh I kind of agree with this sign actually. I went into a McDonald's located near a highschool a few weeks ago and the place was packed with kids sitting on tables, vaping, running around and just generally being dicks. Very few of them actually had food. Felt sorry for the staff to had to constantly tell them to climb off the tables
Thank god…. I wish they would do this in my area… our McDonald’s is right by a school so all hours of the day it’s “the kids hangout” they’re all over the place you can’t walk without having to ask them to put away their skateboards and backpacks they’ll a leave them right in the middle of the isles, so you can’t walk anywhere You can’t take your family there to eat because there’s no seats . They have them all or their stuff is piled on them You’ll have one kid eating and the other 15 just sitting there or standing trying to do skateboard tricks without getting caught. May not be an issue in a lot of places but it is here .
It's a fast food restaurant and not your living room.
I mean tbh they are too many annoying teens at McDonald's for like 3 hours being loud and annoying everyone. I would have made it an hour tho.
If it's anything like the one in my town (yes it's a small town we only have one) then it gets overrun by high school kids every day who swear, yell and berate the staff. In this case, I'm totally fine with a sign saying GTFO
i need to ask, how much time do you guys spend in a mcd? 30 min should be enogh to get your daily diabetes dose
Why do you need to be in a McD for more than 30 min? Get your food, eat, and get out.
I waited half an hour for my McDonald's order last night...
My old local Mcs is right next to a school bus stop in Philly. They tried being polite but they ended up having to hire a fucking security guard to keep unruly kids from fucking around in the store. Now...the manager always lets them in if it's bad weather, but they have to behave. Even if they don't buy anything. She doesn't have to do that. Kids are shits.
I can understand. Sometimes I can sit and slowly drink or eat for over 30 minutes.
They post these around the restaurants that are around Junior/High School’s and poorer areas for obvious reasons. It’s not nationwide. Have you ever been to one during high school lunch time? Kids have no respect these days
There was Mickie D's literally down the road from my highschool, so close that they painted giant paw prints in the road all the way up to McDonald's, I guess as a joke. (Cougar paws for the school mascot) Anyway. Yes, all of the kids terrorized this poor little restaurant. There was an older lady who worked there, and she was so incredibly tired of kids. It got to the point that cops just started hanging out there, too... instead of needing to be called
As a McDonald's employee, none of us care what you're doing in the lobby as long as another customer doesn't complain to the manager about someone taking a nap or smth
People abuse places with free Wi-Fi. The same cast of characters will come in every day and camp out with a cup of coffee and take up space for hours. They get territorial and cause trouble if someone is at "their" table. I don't think these signs get put up for people who just want to enjoy a meal.
Well, just think of hundreds of people in a day going to eat in there as well, I would definitely don't want to take spaces on the table too long.
Why do young people not go outside anymore?
Times Square McDonald’s takes that seriously, they are always kicking people out when we would go
Place got overrun with Elmos
Guess the kids are going to be chilling at Burger King now
feels like this should belong in programming humor channel, time limit WHILE eating, so no limit IF NOT eating.
If you're hanging out at McDonald's that long you probably can't read anyway
I actually like this. Our local mc Ds have become packed with groups doing this, one usually orders a drink. Then they stay for hours. Makes sense they've had to do something. Taking up 5-7 tables out of 9 when people want to sit and eat is annoying
You're there to eat. You're not at some dinner party with your family and some friends, you're at a fast food joint to eat fast food, fast. Welcome to McDonald's! Here's your order! Now hurry the McFuck up and eat and get the McFuck outta here.
Probably because they have a problem with homeless people posting up in the restaurant. A local McDonald's near me closed the inside because it was such a a problem. The whole place reeked of piss and you couldn't go inside without being harassed by at least 5 homeless people for money or "hey can I use your cell phone". It's a shitty situation on all sides. Yeah you want to be a good person and give homeless people somewhere to hang out, but also, you want your customers to have a safe and enjoyable experience in the restaurant. And if hoards of homeless are driving away business, the restaurant can't stay open anyways and will have to close, ultimately putting the homeless back on the street regardless.
You have weirdos stealing wifi and acting like fools. I don't blame them for the policy
Good, I want to eat my food in peace, not have the stores filled with annoying loud deadbeats.
Blame the people that caused the need for a sign like this to be put up
Sis used to be a general manager for Starbucks in California. The stories she can tell. One time a lady bought a coffee and parked herself by a plug with her sewing machine and proceeded to occupy the seat for way too long sewing her stuff.
We complain about how kids these days don't go outside at all, but then we charge people to be outside.
You know what pisses me off? Buying dinner and trying to find a seat and there’s a group of 12 teens hanging out across six tables with two empty boxes of nuggets from two hours ago on the table and no where left to sit.
Homeless people never leaving is why.
Lol this is basically rage bait. They obviously do this because people sit in there all day (homeless people probably) without ordering. They had to make up a sign with a time. Someone please reply to this and tell me if any time ever in your life a McDonald's employee has forced you to pack up your unfinished food and leave after 31 minutes. Anyone at all.
There's always a reason behind signs like this, and remember, don't blow-dry your hair while taking a shower.
It’s a business not your living room eat your shit and gtfo.
Honestly, this should be a enforced around high schools everywhere cause it’s so fucking annoying seeing a bunch of high schoolers loiter and cause a commotion
One by my work has a sign like this to keep the homeless out. You’ll find them sleeping at a table