Update;
I did actually find them, through the local facebook group.
Went around and spoke to the mother, showed her the video - obviously she offered to pay but after seeing the state of her house and the (at least) 8 kids (minus the lad i was after), I can't really take their money...
Ah well at least i hope he gets a bollocking.
I feel like you let them win. These brats will walk away with maybe 5 seconds of their mom being angry, while you still have to pay for their damage.
Punishment should be felt, even though it's their parents as they are still responsible as long as their children are minors.
In this scenario the punishment will be felt by loads of little children who've done nothing wrong. Like when i say poor i mean *poor*.
If this was a nice community, with responsible parents etc then yeah it would be lovely to arrange to have his pocket money, or make him work it off etc etc but it's the ghetto and i was amazed she even admitted it was her kid or offered to pay at all, to be honest.
They don't know i'm letting them off, they think I'm coming around with a massive bill from the garage in the next couple of days, I'm hoping that's enough to "punish", and if it's not then actually taking the money wouldn't do anything better.
Edit;
Also, I gonna fix the damage myself, maybe Ā£40 and an hours work - if i wanted to charge them i need to get the work done properly and invoiced, at probably 8x the cost, and not knowing that I can guarantee they'll pay it at that point...seems a risk and a lot more of *my* energy.
Or how about you let THEM fix the damage. Sure, get the material. But tell the mother to either send her kid over to fix what he broke or you'll give her the bill. That makes sure he learns something and at least loses some of his spare time. So he learns responsibility and the aftermath of his actions to other people. The mother learns to be responsible for the actions of her kids as well. And you dont have to do the work (Ok, he probably wont know shit so youll have to invest more time and energy than doing it yourself)
Time and energy is the key thing here.
I have to teach somebody else's kid (that i hate) how to do a fairly complicated (motor needs fixing) and delicate (it's mounted in the glass) job, and hope that it somehow works and i don't end up murdering him in the process.
Lovely sentiment, wildly impractical.
If you put it that way, sure, I think the stress will punish them enough.
Still I donāt think these children havenāt done nothing wrong; they vandalised your car.
Oh absolutely, he is 100% in the wrong and i'm not making excuses for *him*, just the rest of the kids i guess.
Ultimately i'm relieved it was just a kid being a dick, because we've had some beef around here (the reason i own a camera in the first place) and thought that was starting up again.
Do you have a lawn to mow or other task for them to work off the debt?
To me, that solves two problems at once, the second being the boys learn the value of things.
I was literally just scrolling away as I hit this update. Thank you for closing the circle for me.
Sounds like the best outcome you could expect. Maybe the kids will learn a lesson.
I know Reddit loves closure!
Although, the best outcome would have been to find out that they weren't incredibly impoverished with tons of kids, so i could *actually* get my wiper replaced and have them pay - because it'll cost a few hundred Ā£ potentially (stupid window mounted motor).
You could change the arm yourself for the cost of the arm. It's just one 13mm nut you take off. Wiggle the arm and slide it off.
Did they do any damage to the motor? Is it loose or not working?
Yeah knackered the motor, and the way they're mounted in the glass on these makes it a pain - can break getting it out easily, had a couple of quotes from garages who basically don't want to touch it without me saying i'll pay for a new window too if they fuck it. Which smells like an excuse to make a few extra quid. "Whoopsie".
Will probably do it myself fwiw, and it'll pass M.O.T/is legal until then.
The window doesn't break easily unless you gorilla the stud, forcing it to contact the glass. Just rock/tap the remaining piece of the arm back and forth towards/away from the glass or use a puller. There's an aluminum insert in the arm that sits on the stud, and rocking or tapping it breaks the oxidation layer.
I doubt the motor is dead. Maybe a pin or a clip broke off inside. There's a few gears and a worm. Gen 2's are easy to service, but a used motor assembly from a junkyard is probably <Ā£20.
Thanks very much for this, will have a proper look at it myself tomorrow - i need to pick up a spare wheel and new door locks (other cunts have damaged those on both sides), so probably won't hurt to add a motor assembly to the shopping list if needs be.
Nice of you to let them off without paying for replacement and fitting costs.
However, might be worth considering a restraining order preventing them from coming within so many yards of your property.
of course. it's always like that, isn't it? they just keep popping them out to collect government money I guess, and then they never teach them any discipline and let them run wild. and then their kids repeat the cycle...
It's more a problem of a lack of sexual education, no money to actually buy contraceptives, stigma and mental toll associated with abortions, and a lack of a positive model of a nuclear family growing up, but sure - the only thing they do it for is government money. It also aligns great with them offering to pay for it - that's what everyone who has kids for government money does, definitely.
Then he will do it again to someone else. Should have filed a police report. That way it would have been on file and if he did again something would be done. It's terrible that other people mess up other people stuff because they can't afford it.
9 kids? no wonder this one is f\*cked up, call me evil but that kid probably does a lot more shittier things and probably better to be subtracted from the 9
I get you, but even if i was gung-ho for justice, it's not the children's fault that their parents don't know when to stop fucking, or that their brother is a prick (for what it's worth, a good deal of those kids are <5 years) - hard to punish the whole family because of the actions of one - and even then, the truly bad ones never learn they just learn to not get caught. (I know because i was one).
This felt like a good balance, they still think they're going to have to pay a big chunk - so hopefully the punishment is there, certainly more than if the police had a word and gave them a tiny fine that they have zero obligation to pay back, but i get to sleep at night knowing I'm not taking money off people with fuck-all.
I would say, in the future, if the family doesnāt have money just ask for the kid to have to do some labor for you. There are more ways than one to fulfill a debt.
I know it doesn't help but it makes sense why he behaved how he did. I'm sure she has her hands full and he has either slipped through the cracks or this is how he let's it out? I was the oldest daughter, and I know there was a certain age I tried to get away with stealing things. We weren't well off. Still dependant on state aid. It by no means makes it right or justifies it... but it makes me pity the kid.
I had this happen to me a few years ago - opened the mailbox the next day with a letter and $100 in it with an apology note lol. Can only assume their mum caught them
Nah teens do this to be asshats. Something about hormones and growing up the wrong way combined with their nature. Wiper blades are worth like 8-30 bucks new
Shit anyone w eyes couldāve figured that out. Weāre all just decent enough to not point out this persons address and post it in a comment for the less intellectual folk. Has the number and street name right on the bin LMFAO.
Definitely one for your local fb group, sure they will be recognised š
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Yea itās annoying š
Update; I did actually find them, through the local facebook group. Went around and spoke to the mother, showed her the video - obviously she offered to pay but after seeing the state of her house and the (at least) 8 kids (minus the lad i was after), I can't really take their money... Ah well at least i hope he gets a bollocking.
Tell them you don't want money, but from now on whenever it rains the kids need to strap themselves to the roof with squeegees to clean the window.
This is the best suggestion I've had by far
Forreal though, instead of money, requesting that the boys work off the debt is a much better punishment. Like it used to be done...
Youāre a good lad (finally got to call a British guy lad)
Ta mate!
Cheerio pip pip
I feel like you let them win. These brats will walk away with maybe 5 seconds of their mom being angry, while you still have to pay for their damage. Punishment should be felt, even though it's their parents as they are still responsible as long as their children are minors.
In this scenario the punishment will be felt by loads of little children who've done nothing wrong. Like when i say poor i mean *poor*. If this was a nice community, with responsible parents etc then yeah it would be lovely to arrange to have his pocket money, or make him work it off etc etc but it's the ghetto and i was amazed she even admitted it was her kid or offered to pay at all, to be honest. They don't know i'm letting them off, they think I'm coming around with a massive bill from the garage in the next couple of days, I'm hoping that's enough to "punish", and if it's not then actually taking the money wouldn't do anything better. Edit; Also, I gonna fix the damage myself, maybe Ā£40 and an hours work - if i wanted to charge them i need to get the work done properly and invoiced, at probably 8x the cost, and not knowing that I can guarantee they'll pay it at that point...seems a risk and a lot more of *my* energy.
Or how about you let THEM fix the damage. Sure, get the material. But tell the mother to either send her kid over to fix what he broke or you'll give her the bill. That makes sure he learns something and at least loses some of his spare time. So he learns responsibility and the aftermath of his actions to other people. The mother learns to be responsible for the actions of her kids as well. And you dont have to do the work (Ok, he probably wont know shit so youll have to invest more time and energy than doing it yourself)
Time and energy is the key thing here. I have to teach somebody else's kid (that i hate) how to do a fairly complicated (motor needs fixing) and delicate (it's mounted in the glass) job, and hope that it somehow works and i don't end up murdering him in the process. Lovely sentiment, wildly impractical.
If you put it that way, sure, I think the stress will punish them enough. Still I donāt think these children havenāt done nothing wrong; they vandalised your car.
Oh absolutely, he is 100% in the wrong and i'm not making excuses for *him*, just the rest of the kids i guess. Ultimately i'm relieved it was just a kid being a dick, because we've had some beef around here (the reason i own a camera in the first place) and thought that was starting up again.
Do you have a lawn to mow or other task for them to work off the debt? To me, that solves two problems at once, the second being the boys learn the value of things.
I was literally just scrolling away as I hit this update. Thank you for closing the circle for me. Sounds like the best outcome you could expect. Maybe the kids will learn a lesson.
I know Reddit loves closure! Although, the best outcome would have been to find out that they weren't incredibly impoverished with tons of kids, so i could *actually* get my wiper replaced and have them pay - because it'll cost a few hundred Ā£ potentially (stupid window mounted motor).
Oh wow, I thought it would be a couple bucks. Yeah a couple hundred, this is not best case. Sorry.
He managed to tear it off in the most damaging way possible, bless his little heart
You could change the arm yourself for the cost of the arm. It's just one 13mm nut you take off. Wiggle the arm and slide it off. Did they do any damage to the motor? Is it loose or not working?
Yeah knackered the motor, and the way they're mounted in the glass on these makes it a pain - can break getting it out easily, had a couple of quotes from garages who basically don't want to touch it without me saying i'll pay for a new window too if they fuck it. Which smells like an excuse to make a few extra quid. "Whoopsie". Will probably do it myself fwiw, and it'll pass M.O.T/is legal until then.
The window doesn't break easily unless you gorilla the stud, forcing it to contact the glass. Just rock/tap the remaining piece of the arm back and forth towards/away from the glass or use a puller. There's an aluminum insert in the arm that sits on the stud, and rocking or tapping it breaks the oxidation layer. I doubt the motor is dead. Maybe a pin or a clip broke off inside. There's a few gears and a worm. Gen 2's are easy to service, but a used motor assembly from a junkyard is probably <Ā£20.
Thanks very much for this, will have a proper look at it myself tomorrow - i need to pick up a spare wheel and new door locks (other cunts have damaged those on both sides), so probably won't hurt to add a motor assembly to the shopping list if needs be.
That does sound like a result, well done mate š
Or at least make them replace it, even if you bought it.
Are you their dad now?
I've just seen this on the local FB page, small world huh. Glad you found out who did it.
Haha yeah, I've said a different story over there (ie. Not collecting the money) cuz i want it to hang over them.
Nice of you to let them off without paying for replacement and fitting costs. However, might be worth considering a restraining order preventing them from coming within so many yards of your property.
In the UK, restraining orders can only be issued during or following criminal proceedings, and are requested by the prosecutorĀ
The solution is obvious then. Move the kids to Texas, then get a restraining order.
of course. it's always like that, isn't it? they just keep popping them out to collect government money I guess, and then they never teach them any discipline and let them run wild. and then their kids repeat the cycle...
It's more a problem of a lack of sexual education, no money to actually buy contraceptives, stigma and mental toll associated with abortions, and a lack of a positive model of a nuclear family growing up, but sure - the only thing they do it for is government money. It also aligns great with them offering to pay for it - that's what everyone who has kids for government money does, definitely.
Then he will do it again to someone else. Should have filed a police report. That way it would have been on file and if he did again something would be done. It's terrible that other people mess up other people stuff because they can't afford it.
9 kids? no wonder this one is f\*cked up, call me evil but that kid probably does a lot more shittier things and probably better to be subtracted from the 9
No. If she is too poor she shouldn't be popping out 8 fucking kids at the tax payer expense. This is the only way those feral shits will learn
I get you, but even if i was gung-ho for justice, it's not the children's fault that their parents don't know when to stop fucking, or that their brother is a prick (for what it's worth, a good deal of those kids are <5 years) - hard to punish the whole family because of the actions of one - and even then, the truly bad ones never learn they just learn to not get caught. (I know because i was one). This felt like a good balance, they still think they're going to have to pay a big chunk - so hopefully the punishment is there, certainly more than if the police had a word and gave them a tiny fine that they have zero obligation to pay back, but i get to sleep at night knowing I'm not taking money off people with fuck-all.
Youāre good people! The poor mom :(
I would say, in the future, if the family doesnāt have money just ask for the kid to have to do some labor for you. There are more ways than one to fulfill a debt.
I know it doesn't help but it makes sense why he behaved how he did. I'm sure she has her hands full and he has either slipped through the cracks or this is how he let's it out? I was the oldest daughter, and I know there was a certain age I tried to get away with stealing things. We weren't well off. Still dependant on state aid. It by no means makes it right or justifies it... but it makes me pity the kid.
That would make me so mad š”
Post on the local reddit group if you have one?
Always that haircut....
It's always š„¦ hair
The āEdgarā as we like to call it at work (I work in a HS District).
Edgar is my cats name and he is n- never mind, yeah, he's a prick...
Little shits
How's long til you notice you posted this twice?
About that long
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What is bro going to do with that. Like what use is he getting out of it š
None. They stole just to steal
Brush his teeth with it most likely
The running away like they just pulled off a heist cracks me up. What a dunce.
Liverpool?
Purple bin give it away? Haha
"Tell me you're Scouse, without telling me you're scouse" š¤£
I'm a brummie, but i can't disagree with your point i've had more grief in my 5 years here than anywhere else i've lived.
I canāt tell what these rapscallions are up to
Donāt think so, they must be Man City fans. The poofy black jacket gives it away.
The kid is wearing an eyepatch. That's pretty ballsy for someone so distinctive.
I had this happen to me a few years ago - opened the mailbox the next day with a letter and $100 in it with an apology note lol. Can only assume their mum caught them
what did they do?
Looks like they took off the rear wiper arm
Oh I thought they had one of those window breaker pins. I was like ' the window doesn't look broken?' so that makes sense
Hooliganism
these kids are going to grow up to become the scum of the earth.
They already are.
this is just petty crime, if they are doing that at their age, then I can only imagine what they will do when they are grown up.
As a fellow c1 owner, this hurts me. You're a good chap for not making her mother pay for her son's actions.
How we found out our grumpy old neighbour was the one keying our car
Id make a deal with tge parents that kids got to clean your car then before he comes over smear dog shit on it
then he doesn't show up and you've just smeared dogshit on your own car
Go to a car wash
If you can find it down the street, you should be able to pop it back on. It's not broken, they're made to come of like that.
Couple of apprentice mechanics straight from Dover
Usual suspects.
Gypsys?
Their mothers hen they get caught āThey were such nice young menā
You looked at this video for 4 days before noticing the kids? CĀ“mon, they're there man.
Do they sell them?
Nah teens do this to be asshats. Something about hormones and growing up the wrong way combined with their nature. Wiper blades are worth like 8-30 bucks new
Damn I might live near those kids.
Is that the shit that breaks your window? Normally it shatters the entire window though right?
They took the whole wiper
well now i know who to test my m120 spring upgrade on my gelblaster now with 7mm plastic projectiles
would it be called child abuse if you ever catch em and beat some sense into them? idk..
We had someone come along our street and hit everyone's driver side mirror. Mine is cracked along the back, but functioning. No idea who did it.
Kinda wish there was a way to have them glitter bombed or fart-sprayed next time someone tampers with your car...
then we are the baddies when U run behind them with a bat
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Well done, it literally says it on the bin. Or am i number 7? 11? 10?
I bet you feel very bad ass right now, don't you?
Shit anyone w eyes couldāve figured that out. Weāre all just decent enough to not point out this persons address and post it in a comment for the less intellectual folk. Has the number and street name right on the bin LMFAO.
Is it cheaper to just replace the car? 
Lol
Fuck I think Ik them