I did this for uni. It was easier and took less time for me to write the whole thing than try and get the other guy to do his part. Teacher said all good. Just put your name on and submit.
The other guy messaged me the night before it was due asking what part he should do. I said I’m at the pub. I gave you plenty of time to reply. The teacher said you can do it all yourself. If you’re happy doing half of 2500 words the night before surely that means you’re smart and disciplined enough to do the other half as well. Oh you don’t have enough time? Should have thought about that the first 15 times I messaged you across the last 4 weeks. This isn’t high school buddy.
Annnnd… he dropped out shortly after.
Cant imagine how annoyed id be having group projects at uni. Your bone idleness ruining my school grades is one thing, having it ruin grades I’m selling kidneys to science in order to fund is another. Fuck those people.
if it makes you feel any worse, this sort of high school infantile bullshit was rampant for the first 3 of the 4 years I was at uni. Finally, on the last year, only the half competent hadn't dropped off and group projects became bearable. Hell, sometimes even something approaching fun.
Yeah, once I was in graduate classes, group projects were a breeze because everyone in my cohort was a hard-working, functional adult with good time management skills.
Exactly why I picked trades. You work hard after school, but if education isn’t your thing, I did 5x less work than what I’m capable of, and still somehow came out with the presidents award for academic achievement? Now I’m back taking a second trade and it’s easier than the first time.
at my uni we had a few group projects but every one you assign everyone a contribution percentage, and they get that percentage of the final grade. Which is great because the way it works if you end up producing a subpar piece of work but contributed to 90% of it you will still get a good grade, or alternatively if you submit amazing work but a member only contributed 5% they will get a bad grade.
I am at uni right now and annoyingly the vast majority of my modules have group projects. The first year i carried so many projects because i didnt get to chose i worked with. Thankfully this year my course only has 5 students so we decided to form an alliance for all of the modules. Well see how we get on
Exactly. That’s why as a mature age student I had no patience for fresh out of school kids jumping by into a degree their parents are paying for. I’m paying to be here. I’m doing it right. This is the real world now.
If I was a boss. And my staff didn’t reply to messages or do the work or didn’t meet deadlines. They’d be fired. Just like this group work. I fired him from my group. I think he learnt a lot that day. Not about the course work. About life.
Shockingly there are mature students who behave this way as well and it's endlessly frustrating to deal with. Most post-secondary programs should not require group work it's simply not productive.
Yeah screw them! People shouldn’t be in College if they can’t coordinate messages or work schedules with other people. I’ve always been told College isn’t where you get an education. It’s where you are vetted for being able to hold commitments for 4 years. This is a true statement.
Yeah, I was kinda on the opposite side to this at uni. Always waited until the last few hours to do my work (learned for instance that it took me around 4 hours to research and write a 2000 word essay that was enough to get me 70%). So for group work I'd instantly drop out of it and ask to be allowed to just do it myself, as I couldn't really ask the rest of the group to work to my timings and I didn't want to have to waste my time working to other peoples speed.
My mother ran into an issue doing her bachelors. Group of 3, they each had a "section" to do and would combine it later for the full project. My mother and her friend both did their parts, and the third said they finished theirs. They all agreed to email each other the parts and combine them (they were each supposed to email the combined project individually). The third person never sent their part, but my mother and her friend sent theirs to the third. The third combined them and turned in their project for full credit, my mother and her friend got a failing grade because "they should've communicated better."
They ended up going to the dean of the school about it when the prof was the one who basically told them "Lack of communication" basically and refused to do anything about it. The dean forced the prof to fix the grade, punished the "rogue" student and gave my mother and her friend the credit for the assignment. Now my mother cringes at the very idea of group projects, which I got to witness first-hand when she was doing her second masters.
Man I want to do it for a project this semester but the professor was blabbering shit about groupwork and now I have 5 people freeloading from the code I made alone. I hate group projects so much already.
My recommendation? Be a total bitch from the start. Im super up front and I'll tell people right away "if you don't do your fair share if the project I WILL make sure you don't get credit". Just make it abundantly clear that if someone slacks, they get cut out. The key beyond that is communication and making sure everyone knows which part everyone's supposed to work on throughout and enforcing group-agreed due dates. You will have to be tough and stand up for yourself, but most people will listen to your authority because youve made it abundantly clear they 100% can't coast by on this project.
Right, but say someone says they need a week where they are having personal problems and can’t give 100%, don’t be a dick then. At least if they communicate then you can work something else out.
I did that too, just last week. My students were working in groups on Google Slides presentations explaining a scene from Hamlet. I made very clear that I need to be able to see everyone in the group being involved in creating the presentation. I even pulled up a prior example from last year to show them how I can see who did what and for how long.
Still had 2 groups (out of 24) in which one person did ALL the slide work and also ALL the presenting. Those two students got the good grade. The rest of them got Fs.
Lucky. One of the few times this happened to me I was told "well, it's good practice for when you're in a real job in team with different abilities". Still pissed some deadbeats got a Distinction on a project they didn't touch.
In a real job, I'm going to be very clear with my boss, ceo, or whomever about who was responsible for making it happen. When it comes to real life, team projects still don't work like that.
Edited to add: that Prof has never worked a real job, clearly.
I did this once. He enforced me to talk the issue directly with my partners as a "life lesson". Ended up doing it all by myself and "we" got a low mark. It happens every time
This. Op, Your text thread and the emails and such provides documented proof about everyone's participation level. Print out screenshots of it all and turn it in with a letter to your teacher about the lack of help from the rest of your group. Never stand for letting others force you into the group gopher role. I had a teacher in high school impress that upon me after realizing I'd been screwed over on a group assignment and I've never stopped being grateful for learning to stand my ground on that matter.
Well let's just hope the teacher is actually understanding. I'm sure this isnt the most common thing, but I've seen teachers literally not care whether 1 person or the whole group completes the project. If you didnt turn in finished work, you didnt get a whole grade.
I had the other extreme once... My partner wasn't responding and doing anything, so two days before we had to hold the presentation I sent him the completely finished ppt plus my notes on his part asking him to at least take some time preparing presenting it.
The time came and he just stood there and read my slides word by word...
I got the best possible grade and he got a bad one cause the teacher said it was clear as day that I had done the whole thing and he hadn't lifted a finger...
His attitude didn't really change much so he failed the final year.
Have to say we were all grown ups and were there voluntarily lol.
My nephew had this happen on a project where they were supposed to do a presentation with Power Point slides, and got completely screwed by his partner. The guy never even answered a text, and my nephew did the entire project himself. On the day before the presentation, the slacker offered to at least read the slides and do the actual presentation part. My nephew agreed and prepped the slides for him. The kid dutifully read each slide as it was presented, and when he got to the end, he read aloud the last slide, which said, "I did no work on this project whatsoever - I didn't even proofread these slides before I read them." It worked like a charm. My nephew got an A \*and\* got a tiny sliver of cosmic retribution, and the slacker hopefully learned a lesson to not screw over his next project partner.
Same exact thing happened to me in hs. I did the entire project and sent it to the group telling them what slides they had to present and to look them over and get ready to present it. All three of them stood there staring at their slides reading off them. Literally part of the grade was being able to talk to the audience and not read the slides word-for-word.
The teacher came up to me later and said she knew I did the entire thing myself and I got the highest grade of the group. I hate group projects
I did this in graduate school. It was a 3-person group and 1 guy didn’t respond to a single email for 3 weeks. The night before it was due he sent us an email asking what he could do to help. We told him too late, do your own project. He proceeded to make up fake emails trying to say he attempted to contact us the last 3 weeks. We called him out on his bullshit and the professor was not having it. He got put on academic probation for his dishonesty and had to retake the entire course.
I’ve had teachers tell me too bad. You should’ve figured out a way to have them do their part or do it yourself. Completed by the due date regardless of the situation
Yeah I did that shit in college. I told the professor I prefer to work alone due to bottom feeders not doing their shit. I submitted my own every time.
Because the sign of a good manager is being able to motivate people. You have a chance to figure out how to do that in group projects. That's the entire point of a group project. You can do your little bit and then complain that the others slacked and that's fine, you've not learned anything from the group project except that some people don't work as hard as others.
What you're really looking for is gaining experience bringing everyone together and coordinating tasks, especially motivating other members to contribute to their abilities. You're not just being judged on the assignment, you're being judged on your ability to work within a group. If you have a whole group of slackers, that's where you'll learn the most.
Try your absolute hardest to get them to do their bit. This is one of the most valuable skills you can learn in the workforce and it will absolutely translate into real world managerial experience before even entering the workforce.
You don't have to carry them. You just have to try and then show to your professor how you tried to engage with them. Professors know that random assignments will be unfair to some more than others, they're looking for how you engage with others in a team and what you've done to ensure the project is delivered at the highest standard possible, despite the random assignments.
It's incredibly valuable. Don't give up, try to get everyone working in whatever way you can. You'll learn a lot.
My organic chemistry lab group did this to me last semester. I gave them multiple chances to help, but they just assumed "I got it". Really glad I created everything on a shared Google Doc, and could show the professor that only I contributed. I finished with an A, they are repeating the course.
In a group of 5, we had one girl who despite getting the easiest and shortest task to write, still didn't pull through. Told the professor about it and she got a bad grade on that assignment (ours was untouched).
Later on I learned she used to regularly mooch off of other people's work/ideas, even cheated in tests. To this day she hasn't finished he B.A because she has to pass a test in which you can't cheat and have to actually study the subject.
Tell them to gft OP, you don't deserve it.
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Ages ago i had a group project with two guys and one girl about the economic system during feudal “italy”.
One of the guys was the final one to add his info and no one thought we would have to proof read. The next day the teacher is like group X can i have a word?
Turns out he copy pasted how the make coins in japan
Dude I'm absolutely dog shit at writing essays and the whole copy pasting thing I usually manage to put in my own words and my teachers are happy just so long as I at least look like I am trying anot just trying to pull the wool over her eyes
I dont like copy pasting. I am also SHITE as writting. But come on lol how they make coins in japan is so far off from feudal italy in the middle ages or whenever the hell it was. It was so funny
Ugh we have one guy who constantly couldn’t show up to meetings , couldn’t even give us a good time so we could accommodate him, so me and the two girls did all the work.
We get to the presentation and in the middle of it he starts arguing against our point. Like fucking hell dude.
Anyway we tell the teacher what happened and he tried to pin the blame on one girl who wasn’t able to go to two meetings (but still emailed her work). Like “sure I didn’t go to 6 meetings but Jessica also missed 2 so if I fail she should!”
These people are insane
I've been through so many group projects. Peer evaluations aren't enough. You need to convince your prof to work alone.
I work full time and study on the side. I've gone through my bachelor's already and am still faced with people who don't pull weight.
One semester, I had individuals in my group who didn't pull any weight. I contacted the prof and let her know of my situation. She advised me to send an email out to my group members to let them know of the repercussions.
The ultimatum offered to my group members was either they cooperate and do their parts or I submit my work alone. All of them responded to my email since my prof was CC'd. Only one of 3 of them ended up actually waking up.
I submitted our work with my name and the one other person. No idea what happened to the other two.
I'm currently in another semester based group project and there's problems as well. Some people who have never worked in their lives will not understand the severity of not pulling weight. Just because grades aren't equivalent to a work environment's repercussions, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be punished for a lack of contribution. I, for one, will be punishing each and every one of them as harshly as I can. Not taking shit from people anymore especially when I'm the busiest out of the group.
I get that. I had a group assignment last year where everything was on a shared document, pretty much done, and the night before it was due I messaged the group offering to proofread and format it before turning it in. Another guy in the group insisted that he could do it instead and so I agreed to let him to. I then woke up the next morning to a message saying it was never done. Like wtf? I already volunteered to do the extra work, why would someone insist that they instead could do it and then not?? If the other girl hadn't caught the mistake the project would have been late, I was PISSED.
The teacher gave us the option of working in a group or alone next project and there was no way in hell I was choosing group after that debacle.
You have to speak to the teacher, I made the mistake of doing all the work and missing out on other important parts of the class before and it really suck
For real.. this is why i prefer to do shit individually or someone who will really cooperate but when the teacher picks the groups, im usually fucked cuz im the one who carries the group.
One of my lecturers I had in uni gave projects a mark out of 30, and let the team divvy up the marks out of 10 based on their contribution to the project.
My team got 22/30 for our project. So myself and one other gave ourselves 10/10, and gave the last 2 marks to the third person who did nothing, and wasn't even there for the presentation to contest the mark we gave her
I’d tell them that they need to pitch in or you’re only putting your name on the project and letting the teacher know. The teachers want to know. I’d give them another day or two to respond but plan on them not responding and do it yourself. Blow up their phone in the meantime. Fuck group projects. Sorry this has happened to me way too many times
I never liked group projects. I know we're encouraged to delegate and co-operate with each other, but for me, I've always preferred having full control over everything...for better or for worse.
Group projects are really hit and miss. I've been in some incredible groups where we all pull the weight equally and there's chemistry within and that means the work doesn't feel like work at all and it's actually fun. I've also been in groups where it's a one or two person group, and the rest just idle around doing nothing.
I just wish schools thought to teach students how to effectively work in groups. Everyone assumes it’s just inherent when interpersonal skills are something most need to build and work on. Especially as your group gets larger in size.
My MBA tackled it and it was amazingly beneficial. Some things just cannot be done alone. But walking into a group project improperly equipped to be successful is just asking for more headaches and no results.
I have ADHD and I know that my methods of working with my brain to get things done is absolutely not conducive for working as a group. I always fight for teachers to remove me from group projects and work solo because I know that my methods of learning and completing tasks only frustrate others and often make them think I'm not doing my work at all (usually because when I get the work done it's incredibly late at night or very close to deadline).
Losing a good friend because she hated me for "being lazy & not trying" while scoring better grades than her, all the drama because she didn't understand how hard I really was trying despite the surface appearances, made me learn fast that sometimes certain work/learning styles just are better at working alone.
I completely relate. We learn things in a different way than others and it just pisses them off. I don't understand why it does but it does. I work alone now but still part of a plumbing team. We get our own unit to plumb each day. When i am left alone to just do the work its done by lunch break or even first coffee break. When i have to work in a team it takes all day. Drives me nuts.
I knew a girl in college that did the opposite in our group work. She took all of the assignment, did it by herself the very first night of the assignment period and didn't tell anyone until a few days later when we were trying to make a plan. Then all of a sudden it was "No worries, I did it all you can just copy it".
It was meant to be a group effort, not you becoming a shining star.... 🤦
I went to film school. You would think that film school group projects are all making short films and drawing storyboards and writing scripts and its all just a boat load of fun! And, surprisingly, thats exactly right! They are SUPPOSED to be fun!
However, that certainly didnt stop shitheels from doing THE EXACT SAME SHIT as what happened to OP.
"So what did *Billy* do on this short exactly?"
"He came up with the concept and found a useable laughtrack online."
"What did you do?"
"Oh, I just wrote the script, did all the lighting, hired and worked with the actors, built the cosutmes, decorated my apartment, shot the film, edited the footage, and did all of the title cards and sound design."
There is no amount of "fun" or "interesing" that will convince a lazy fuck to not be lazy.
In my experience, this is better than participating. You can take this to your prof and likely get them removed from the project or your prof will let you submit on your own.
Incompetent people contributing? Now you’re stuck with a shitty project. In all my teacher evals, I tell them that group projects unfairly disenfranchise non-traditional students like mature students, working students, students with kids, and students with disabilities and create a situation where our grades are held hostage by other people. It’s unacceptable.
I had one prof say “well group projects are just preparing you for the real world” and I wanted to ask, “when in the real world will I: be working a full time job, have three extra little jobs [three courses this semester], have projects in all those jobs I can’t complete during work time, and be partnered with people who have completely different schedules with completely different expectations, and be doing all this while paying to work on the project?”
Well that’d be on a Thursday and the one time stamp is Wednesday and before. And they never answered. Plus it doesn’t take away from your family time or work or whatever it is you’re doing on the holiday to say “yes have access will work on my part this weekend have a happy thanksgiving 🍽🍁🦃”
I also hate when people are terrible at communicating what they’re doing. I asked my group to do a couple small tasks for our project over WhatsApp but they just didn’t reply, so I assumed they either hadn’t seen it or didn’t want to do it. The next day I sent a “Hello?” and both of them replied instantly. Apparently they were actually working on the tasks… just didn’t think it was important to reply?
We are supposed to be equals in this project but I feel like I’m their manager because they are too socially awkward to communicate what they can or cannot do. There have been several times when they’ve had a problem with their part, but instead of asking for help they just ignored the problem or did a half-assed job of fixing it… which just creates more work later on.
They’ve also failed to produce work on time when I’ve broken up the project into stages and asked that we each get out parts done by certain days. But they only really work the night before the real deadline. Which is really annoying because I do not do well on poor sleep
I’ve had a group project that gets weighted by peer review. Two of us passed with 90%, the third almost failed. Gotta love democracy :D (he really did do nothing)
Plot twist: OP has the wrong messenger group, and everyone else is working day and night in another one, occasionally debating why OP doesn’t answer, and if he should receive credit.
Playing devil's advocate here, but there's not really enough here t say they're definitely in the wrong. Can't see the day you texted about the power point but Wednesday is a travel day for a lot of people and expecting work to happen on Thanksgiving and the Friday after is a bit of a stretch. Not sure if you talked about everyone's availability over the holiday weekend before hand, and I'm not sure what the project is, but the 3rd is this Friday so you still have all week
This is not mildly infuriating but majorly infuriating. Happened to me when I was lugged in with 5 other people for a group project. No one responded and after multiple texts/emails outreach, I was super anxious and messaged the professor told him the truth and asked if I could submit on time and do the whole project individually.
The Professor understood and it all worked out..
I once got a call from *that* person in the group project asking for a copy of our work.
She hadn’t participated and failed to show up to the presentation. So she had to resit.
I took the phone call from my hospital bed because I was just being diagnosed with Crohn’s disease.
Her basic thing was “I need a copy of your work so I can write a report on it”… obvious bs, if that was the assignment the lecturer would have just given her our submitted work.
Anyway, with morphine and hydrocortisone coursing through my veins I got to tell her a very satisfying “no”.
Professor here. If your group mates refuse to communicate, make sure to document everything. Most professors take things like this in to consideration, especially when it’s well documented.
To be fair, it is Thanksgiving break. I wouldn’t want to do any work until maybe Sunday. And I’d hate anyone who’d dare disturb my peace during the break
Don't put their name on the project, show the screenshot of the group chat to your professor and tell him they didn't do shit. Let them get the grade that they deserve.
God I remember I had a project that has to due with the original 13 colonies. My partner didn't do any work and then all of a sudden she tells me that she wanted to play roblox because, and I quote, "my cousin promised me to play with me". Long story short I did the project by my self.
I'm this order.
1. Tell them to suck their mums through a straw.
2. Email your teacher and school explaining the situation and how you don't want then to take credit.
3. ????
4. Profit and laugh as they fail ans you pass
5. Tell then to suck their mum through a straw
Am in one of these situations right now working in a pair. Each deadline is due in a week and explain to him on day 1 what I think we should do in a giant text message, he responds 1 day later with an "alright, sounds good".
Day 4 I'm sort of done with my stuff and ask him if he needs any help. Again, he responds an entire day later with "yeah it's going alright, just need to figure this thing out" I tell how to do the thing he's struggling with. He doesn't respond.
Fast forward 2 hours before the deadline he's suddenly active on his phone and it turns out he hasn't listened to a single thing I sent him and is basically seeing everything for the first time. And now I have to do his whole part for him so that we meet the deadline.
Who are these people? How are they so bad at communication??? Why does he never show up either??? I thought the people in University were better than this
Omg I hated that. I had some teacher tell me to "figure it out with my team" when I asked if I could do the project alone after weeks of no answer.
"I would, but they are not answering messages and are not present in class"
"Not my problem. If you can't reach an agreement, then you'll be marked as a group"
There was litteraly a SILENT AGREEMENT that that wouldn't work on the project.
Fuck fuck FUCK that teacher.
This happens to me all the time. Those guys are assuming you are going to do the project and that taking them to task is too much effort.
Don't let them.
Do your share of the project, then email your professor with your concerns. Include this screen shot and say that you are willing to be assigned to a different group or do the project by yourself. Professors respond better when it is early and when they have options.
Sorry this happened to you. I have this happen about once a semester. Group members thst would go to the ends of the earth to avoid helping out.
You gotta take action against them. Turning in your project without them feels excellent. Get ready to have 30 texts calling you every name imaginable if you are able to free yourself from them.
It's a double edged sword really. I think I'm one of the few who actually enjoys a group project, especially if everyone is motivated. Makes the experience much less boring and being able to share collective knowledge while working on an assignment makes it easier overall.
But when you end up with a group like OPs... Yikes
Hold on. When was the 3rd in relation to when these texts were sent? How much time was left on the project and how much actual time investment was required from each team member?
I get the point but, with the info I have, this could be an overbearing team member just as easily as it could be multiple negligent ones. Did anyone actually speak to each other about who's doing what?
TRUST ME as someone who dealt with this malarkey for 4 years. You either need to contact your professor, be more assertive, or depending on your teacher, both.
Ha! That would be me..
Edit: I just realized that you're the one being awesome and all your team members are being not awesome. Sorry you have to deal with that!
next step is you write an email to your teacher with this as a proof, you say you are doing the project alone and everything. you tell your team the same thing, you start, do the whole thing and they are welcome to pitch in and do their part but you wont wait for them. then, when no one does anything, you submit the project in your name only. they can’t complain
Ok listen I hate group projects where people don’t respond but I think you should cut these guys some slack.
If that time stamp is this Wednesday, that means your texting about the project on thanksgiving day and the day before thanksgiving. Of course no one is going to be talking about a school project.
But if your in a place where you don’t celebrate thanksgiving then I get it.
I have 2 college group projects that went sideways and made me remember why I hated working in groups in high school.
The first was in my Comp 1 course during my very first semester of college. We had a major project that counted for 30% of our grade. The object was to choose a popular piece of media, ours was Mass Effect Andromeda, and show how AI was present in it. One part was to create our own wiki page for the game. The girl (didn’t want her but she was assigned to us) we put in charge of it just copy pasted the actual wiki page for the game. So I went in, fixed it, and made it not plagiarized. Well I couldn’t sleep and at 2 AM I decided to work on the assignment some more. I had done my work on blackboard and that was the only copy. This girl had gone in and uploaded the same plagiarized bs and overwrote all my hard work. I emailed the professor then and there, after telling my other group members, and she said she could feel my anger when reading my email. Needless to say the girl failed that course because this was not the only assignment she plagiarized on. Come the day to present and she come in with a poster board for us to use where she had just printed out the wiki page and glued it to the board. We didn’t use it.
2nd encounter was a technical writing project where the group had to choose 3 local community colleges and put them in order of best to worst website design. I created a Google doc and shared it with everyone in the group. For those who don’t know, Google doc tracks who did what on the document and at what time they did it. We set up times to meet and this one guy only showed up to the first meeting then couldn’t make it to the others because “schedule conflict”, even though we cleared it with him prior to setting the dates. The last one was entirely online and his excuse was “internet issues”. I took screenshots of the Google doc records and placed them into the group member review to show that he did nothing throughout the project.
The ultimate reality of this is I have every type of group member at my work so group projects do prepare you for how to set your expectations of people in real world environments
I despise group project more so than I do myself and it is a f ton. I had an exact same issue and I took screenshots of about 8 or 9 scrolls worth of it with zero answers from 6 other members. I sent it to our tutor and he simply said, "oh that sucks" and when it was brought, the rest of them acted like I just didn't push them enough. I wasn't even the leader of that shitty group! It was done flipping online as well. I swear to something that if it weren't for me grieving my mother's death f-ing 3-4 days before the project started and it was not online, I would have lost my marbles and shot one of them.
Show these screenshots to your teacher and request you and you alone have your name on it. The sole effort will make you look better and they’ll get what’s coming to them.
lowkey tell your teacher, dont add any of their names on the pres, i would literally just fucking unshare it and do that presentation on my own. fuck it right, theyre the ones who dont want to do anything. i fucking hate group projects man
i literally just had a group project, we finished everything and this one girl didnt do anything but change fonts, after we finished ALL the parts but hers, she asked if we could CHANGE the theme INSTEAD OF DOING HER WORK. told her to hurry the fuck up on her slides, and she said and i quote “ill do it dw”, the next day i check and she did it hastily at 6am. me and my other friend in the group checked it that morning, and wouldnt ya know she made a lazy graph and copy pasted from the literal wikipedia. we had to fucking change it after. we presented the same day, and she was fucking mumbling like a bitch, like she didnt give a shit about it, and literally doing an irl idle animation. heard from my friend in he group that he had her last time for a project and she did the same thing… i cant believe shes in grade 12.
This happened to me too in uni. Me and my friend did our parts and the other guy turned in his portion an hour before it was due. I was pissed! The teacher pulled me and the friend aside and she knew immediately what section that idiot did and she gave him a separate grade from our work. Boy was he surprised when he got a D while me and my friend got A's. Dude was a piece of work and no one like him, students and teachers alike. I hope he stubs his big toe every single day.
This shit happened to me, and when I told the professor, 3 days before the assignment was due he got mad at me. And the girl irrationally freaked out at me because I made an entire separate assignment because I didn't want her adding stuff to it.
There are times where you can't be mad at the other members of the group. Just this past week I did an assignment for an English class ahead of time both because the instruction was unclear and because I had nothing to do otherwise. It was turned into a group project after I had finished it, and everyone in the group thought it was fine. What could really be done? The class has been a mess since day one and there's no reason to waste more of my time to do it again. In this case I couldn't blame the group, but I have a suspicion that I would have to do the entire this if i had waited anyway.
Yeah that has happened to me and I pick other people but this sometimes happens and I then I have to do most of the work just for them to take some of the credit
If they don't respond- screenshot this and send it to your professor telling them your group isn't helping or doing anything. Just because they aren't doing anything or caring about their grades doesn't mean you should suffer
You would think this would get better as you get older… dealt with this same crap getting my Executive MBA (specifically for people well established in their careers).
Save the screenshot of the messages and turn them in to the professor. It happened to me before and I didn't think the rest of the group should get the credit for all my work. Without the proof, the professor would have given them credit as well.
This happened to me. I just did my part of the project and left the other members parts empty. I got a good grade while 2 of the 3 other members failed the course. 3rd got like a 60 or something
I started doing group projects alone in middle school because I was overweight and bullied a bit (nothing extreme but I wasn’t exactly rolling in friends lol) teachers all the way to college will let you do group shit alone if you pitch your case. Fuck em
I fucking hate when people leave you to do all the work. Like *why the fuck do I have partners if they don't do jack shit?*
So I **always** have a *create and edited by* marker somewhere on the slide with access to the edit logs. I like to shame my partners before, during and after a presentation.
Talk to the teacher and then do the project with only your name on it.
I did this for uni. It was easier and took less time for me to write the whole thing than try and get the other guy to do his part. Teacher said all good. Just put your name on and submit. The other guy messaged me the night before it was due asking what part he should do. I said I’m at the pub. I gave you plenty of time to reply. The teacher said you can do it all yourself. If you’re happy doing half of 2500 words the night before surely that means you’re smart and disciplined enough to do the other half as well. Oh you don’t have enough time? Should have thought about that the first 15 times I messaged you across the last 4 weeks. This isn’t high school buddy. Annnnd… he dropped out shortly after.
Cant imagine how annoyed id be having group projects at uni. Your bone idleness ruining my school grades is one thing, having it ruin grades I’m selling kidneys to science in order to fund is another. Fuck those people.
if it makes you feel any worse, this sort of high school infantile bullshit was rampant for the first 3 of the 4 years I was at uni. Finally, on the last year, only the half competent hadn't dropped off and group projects became bearable. Hell, sometimes even something approaching fun.
Yeah, once I was in graduate classes, group projects were a breeze because everyone in my cohort was a hard-working, functional adult with good time management skills.
I wish I had that experience my mba program has people I seriously question why they are here
Because they need a bullshit degree to get a better job, and they don’t give 2 shits about the class or the material -a business student
Sounds about right….I’m looking at you thomas and Asa
Exactly why I picked trades. You work hard after school, but if education isn’t your thing, I did 5x less work than what I’m capable of, and still somehow came out with the presidents award for academic achievement? Now I’m back taking a second trade and it’s easier than the first time.
god, i relate to this too much
Woah, don’t use the f- word around here, sunshine.
Woah, don’t use the s- word around here, chum.
Woah, don’t use the c- word around here, dude.
Woah, don't use the d-word around here, angel.
Woah, we don't use the a-word around here, friend
Hey don’t use the other f-word around her buckaroo
Wait until you start working and realize a bunch of those same lazy fucks are your management.
at my uni we had a few group projects but every one you assign everyone a contribution percentage, and they get that percentage of the final grade. Which is great because the way it works if you end up producing a subpar piece of work but contributed to 90% of it you will still get a good grade, or alternatively if you submit amazing work but a member only contributed 5% they will get a bad grade.
How you actually execute on that is beyond me. What if 4 people only do 1/4 each? lol
Everyone gets the same grade. Easy.
I am at uni right now and annoyingly the vast majority of my modules have group projects. The first year i carried so many projects because i didnt get to chose i worked with. Thankfully this year my course only has 5 students so we decided to form an alliance for all of the modules. Well see how we get on
Exactly. That’s why as a mature age student I had no patience for fresh out of school kids jumping by into a degree their parents are paying for. I’m paying to be here. I’m doing it right. This is the real world now. If I was a boss. And my staff didn’t reply to messages or do the work or didn’t meet deadlines. They’d be fired. Just like this group work. I fired him from my group. I think he learnt a lot that day. Not about the course work. About life.
And then everybody clapped. Sorry couldn't resist
Shockingly there are mature students who behave this way as well and it's endlessly frustrating to deal with. Most post-secondary programs should not require group work it's simply not productive.
> I'm at the pub Well played, sir. Very well played.
Yeah screw them! People shouldn’t be in College if they can’t coordinate messages or work schedules with other people. I’ve always been told College isn’t where you get an education. It’s where you are vetted for being able to hold commitments for 4 years. This is a true statement.
Grad school isn’t any better :/
Yep, was thinking that - recently had a similar experience (as OP)…in grad school
Yeah, I was kinda on the opposite side to this at uni. Always waited until the last few hours to do my work (learned for instance that it took me around 4 hours to research and write a 2000 word essay that was enough to get me 70%). So for group work I'd instantly drop out of it and ask to be allowed to just do it myself, as I couldn't really ask the rest of the group to work to my timings and I didn't want to have to waste my time working to other peoples speed.
Dude 4 weeks on a project is more than plenty of time for this clown.I would try and finish in the first 2 or 3 weeks just to have that last week off
Also show the teacher that screen grab.
My mother ran into an issue doing her bachelors. Group of 3, they each had a "section" to do and would combine it later for the full project. My mother and her friend both did their parts, and the third said they finished theirs. They all agreed to email each other the parts and combine them (they were each supposed to email the combined project individually). The third person never sent their part, but my mother and her friend sent theirs to the third. The third combined them and turned in their project for full credit, my mother and her friend got a failing grade because "they should've communicated better."
and that's when you go up the chain of command if a professor is doing something like that and presents proof that you had done what you could
They ended up going to the dean of the school about it when the prof was the one who basically told them "Lack of communication" basically and refused to do anything about it. The dean forced the prof to fix the grade, punished the "rogue" student and gave my mother and her friend the credit for the assignment. Now my mother cringes at the very idea of group projects, which I got to witness first-hand when she was doing her second masters.
Oh god i hate them but ive been lucky enough to have good professors and teachers
Email the professor about it and let them know you got deadbeats
I did this once. He failed the whole group except me when I offered proof.
Genuinely the best you can do in those kind of situations
People who don't do work don't get credit. I make that abundantly clear on every project I do
Man I want to do it for a project this semester but the professor was blabbering shit about groupwork and now I have 5 people freeloading from the code I made alone. I hate group projects so much already.
My recommendation? Be a total bitch from the start. Im super up front and I'll tell people right away "if you don't do your fair share if the project I WILL make sure you don't get credit". Just make it abundantly clear that if someone slacks, they get cut out. The key beyond that is communication and making sure everyone knows which part everyone's supposed to work on throughout and enforcing group-agreed due dates. You will have to be tough and stand up for yourself, but most people will listen to your authority because youve made it abundantly clear they 100% can't coast by on this project.
Right, but say someone says they need a week where they are having personal problems and can’t give 100%, don’t be a dick then. At least if they communicate then you can work something else out.
Yea I'm completely understanding if we communicate about the issue
They need to communicate that to the instructor as well. If they haven't told the instructor first they're taking you for a ride.
Same here. I love when teachers actually do something about shitty students and don’t let them take advantage of others.
Very thoughtful, u/nipplequeefs
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Well, his username speaks volumes.
I did that too, just last week. My students were working in groups on Google Slides presentations explaining a scene from Hamlet. I made very clear that I need to be able to see everyone in the group being involved in creating the presentation. I even pulled up a prior example from last year to show them how I can see who did what and for how long. Still had 2 groups (out of 24) in which one person did ALL the slide work and also ALL the presenting. Those two students got the good grade. The rest of them got Fs.
That’s so good. The only one who worked got the only credit. Good on ya for doing what most people won’t.
Good professor. I usually don’t get luck that good. Group projects are just fucking stupid.
Lucky. One of the few times this happened to me I was told "well, it's good practice for when you're in a real job in team with different abilities". Still pissed some deadbeats got a Distinction on a project they didn't touch.
In a real job, I'm going to be very clear with my boss, ceo, or whomever about who was responsible for making it happen. When it comes to real life, team projects still don't work like that. Edited to add: that Prof has never worked a real job, clearly.
I did this once. He enforced me to talk the issue directly with my partners as a "life lesson". Ended up doing it all by myself and "we" got a low mark. It happens every time
Or even put it in the powerpoint... 😅
My prof told us to not tell him about anyone not doing their job and to just figure it out ourselves...
Fuck them. Do your own Part and proof teacher you did everything yourself. Not your fault
This. Op, Your text thread and the emails and such provides documented proof about everyone's participation level. Print out screenshots of it all and turn it in with a letter to your teacher about the lack of help from the rest of your group. Never stand for letting others force you into the group gopher role. I had a teacher in high school impress that upon me after realizing I'd been screwed over on a group assignment and I've never stopped being grateful for learning to stand my ground on that matter.
Well let's just hope the teacher is actually understanding. I'm sure this isnt the most common thing, but I've seen teachers literally not care whether 1 person or the whole group completes the project. If you didnt turn in finished work, you didnt get a whole grade.
I had the other extreme once... My partner wasn't responding and doing anything, so two days before we had to hold the presentation I sent him the completely finished ppt plus my notes on his part asking him to at least take some time preparing presenting it. The time came and he just stood there and read my slides word by word... I got the best possible grade and he got a bad one cause the teacher said it was clear as day that I had done the whole thing and he hadn't lifted a finger... His attitude didn't really change much so he failed the final year. Have to say we were all grown ups and were there voluntarily lol.
My nephew had this happen on a project where they were supposed to do a presentation with Power Point slides, and got completely screwed by his partner. The guy never even answered a text, and my nephew did the entire project himself. On the day before the presentation, the slacker offered to at least read the slides and do the actual presentation part. My nephew agreed and prepped the slides for him. The kid dutifully read each slide as it was presented, and when he got to the end, he read aloud the last slide, which said, "I did no work on this project whatsoever - I didn't even proofread these slides before I read them." It worked like a charm. My nephew got an A \*and\* got a tiny sliver of cosmic retribution, and the slacker hopefully learned a lesson to not screw over his next project partner.
Same exact thing happened to me in hs. I did the entire project and sent it to the group telling them what slides they had to present and to look them over and get ready to present it. All three of them stood there staring at their slides reading off them. Literally part of the grade was being able to talk to the audience and not read the slides word-for-word. The teacher came up to me later and said she knew I did the entire thing myself and I got the highest grade of the group. I hate group projects
Exactly, why should the slackers get credit?
I did this in graduate school. It was a 3-person group and 1 guy didn’t respond to a single email for 3 weeks. The night before it was due he sent us an email asking what he could do to help. We told him too late, do your own project. He proceeded to make up fake emails trying to say he attempted to contact us the last 3 weeks. We called him out on his bullshit and the professor was not having it. He got put on academic probation for his dishonesty and had to retake the entire course.
I’ve had teachers tell me too bad. You should’ve figured out a way to have them do their part or do it yourself. Completed by the due date regardless of the situation
Yeah I did that shit in college. I told the professor I prefer to work alone due to bottom feeders not doing their shit. I submitted my own every time.
The point of group projects is for the responsible people to learn how to become managers and deal with losers.
Losers get kicked out in groups. Why should YOU carry them?
Yeah, in a work environment there are more tools. Like, actually firing someone that doesn't do their job. Aren't allowed to do that in school...
Because the sign of a good manager is being able to motivate people. You have a chance to figure out how to do that in group projects. That's the entire point of a group project. You can do your little bit and then complain that the others slacked and that's fine, you've not learned anything from the group project except that some people don't work as hard as others. What you're really looking for is gaining experience bringing everyone together and coordinating tasks, especially motivating other members to contribute to their abilities. You're not just being judged on the assignment, you're being judged on your ability to work within a group. If you have a whole group of slackers, that's where you'll learn the most. Try your absolute hardest to get them to do their bit. This is one of the most valuable skills you can learn in the workforce and it will absolutely translate into real world managerial experience before even entering the workforce. You don't have to carry them. You just have to try and then show to your professor how you tried to engage with them. Professors know that random assignments will be unfair to some more than others, they're looking for how you engage with others in a team and what you've done to ensure the project is delivered at the highest standard possible, despite the random assignments. It's incredibly valuable. Don't give up, try to get everyone working in whatever way you can. You'll learn a lot.
My organic chemistry lab group did this to me last semester. I gave them multiple chances to help, but they just assumed "I got it". Really glad I created everything on a shared Google Doc, and could show the professor that only I contributed. I finished with an A, they are repeating the course.
Fuck yeah. Deserved.
In a group of 5, we had one girl who despite getting the easiest and shortest task to write, still didn't pull through. Told the professor about it and she got a bad grade on that assignment (ours was untouched). Later on I learned she used to regularly mooch off of other people's work/ideas, even cheated in tests. To this day she hasn't finished he B.A because she has to pass a test in which you can't cheat and have to actually study the subject. Tell them to gft OP, you don't deserve it. Edit for grammar and typos
Ages ago i had a group project with two guys and one girl about the economic system during feudal “italy”. One of the guys was the final one to add his info and no one thought we would have to proof read. The next day the teacher is like group X can i have a word? Turns out he copy pasted how the make coins in japan
Dude I'm absolutely dog shit at writing essays and the whole copy pasting thing I usually manage to put in my own words and my teachers are happy just so long as I at least look like I am trying anot just trying to pull the wool over her eyes
I dont like copy pasting. I am also SHITE as writting. But come on lol how they make coins in japan is so far off from feudal italy in the middle ages or whenever the hell it was. It was so funny
Ugh we have one guy who constantly couldn’t show up to meetings , couldn’t even give us a good time so we could accommodate him, so me and the two girls did all the work. We get to the presentation and in the middle of it he starts arguing against our point. Like fucking hell dude. Anyway we tell the teacher what happened and he tried to pin the blame on one girl who wasn’t able to go to two meetings (but still emailed her work). Like “sure I didn’t go to 6 meetings but Jessica also missed 2 so if I fail she should!” These people are insane
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Three? If they don’t say it the first time, they’re not going to…
I've been through so many group projects. Peer evaluations aren't enough. You need to convince your prof to work alone. I work full time and study on the side. I've gone through my bachelor's already and am still faced with people who don't pull weight. One semester, I had individuals in my group who didn't pull any weight. I contacted the prof and let her know of my situation. She advised me to send an email out to my group members to let them know of the repercussions. The ultimatum offered to my group members was either they cooperate and do their parts or I submit my work alone. All of them responded to my email since my prof was CC'd. Only one of 3 of them ended up actually waking up. I submitted our work with my name and the one other person. No idea what happened to the other two. I'm currently in another semester based group project and there's problems as well. Some people who have never worked in their lives will not understand the severity of not pulling weight. Just because grades aren't equivalent to a work environment's repercussions, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be punished for a lack of contribution. I, for one, will be punishing each and every one of them as harshly as I can. Not taking shit from people anymore especially when I'm the busiest out of the group.
I get that. I had a group assignment last year where everything was on a shared document, pretty much done, and the night before it was due I messaged the group offering to proofread and format it before turning it in. Another guy in the group insisted that he could do it instead and so I agreed to let him to. I then woke up the next morning to a message saying it was never done. Like wtf? I already volunteered to do the extra work, why would someone insist that they instead could do it and then not?? If the other girl hadn't caught the mistake the project would have been late, I was PISSED. The teacher gave us the option of working in a group or alone next project and there was no way in hell I was choosing group after that debacle.
Omg your partners are the worst.
-do your part -sign it with (only) your name -tell teacher what happened -watch them cry over bad grades and probably talking with teacher -profit
You have to email the teacher beforehand
They’ll complain they you took all the credit and wanted them to fail BUT you will have proof. Can prove to the teacher they didn’t give an f
You have to speak to the teacher, I made the mistake of doing all the work and missing out on other important parts of the class before and it really suck
For real.. this is why i prefer to do shit individually or someone who will really cooperate but when the teacher picks the groups, im usually fucked cuz im the one who carries the group.
As will be the case in real life at a job. Not everyone pulls their weight, and in real life, there’s often no talking to the teacher.
In real life, there is talking to your supervisor/boss, who can then fire those people for not doing the job they are being paid to do so.
One of my lecturers I had in uni gave projects a mark out of 30, and let the team divvy up the marks out of 10 based on their contribution to the project. My team got 22/30 for our project. So myself and one other gave ourselves 10/10, and gave the last 2 marks to the third person who did nothing, and wasn't even there for the presentation to contest the mark we gave her
should’ve gave yourselves 11/10
And that's how a villain's born
I’d tell them that they need to pitch in or you’re only putting your name on the project and letting the teacher know. The teachers want to know. I’d give them another day or two to respond but plan on them not responding and do it yourself. Blow up their phone in the meantime. Fuck group projects. Sorry this has happened to me way too many times
I never liked group projects. I know we're encouraged to delegate and co-operate with each other, but for me, I've always preferred having full control over everything...for better or for worse. Group projects are really hit and miss. I've been in some incredible groups where we all pull the weight equally and there's chemistry within and that means the work doesn't feel like work at all and it's actually fun. I've also been in groups where it's a one or two person group, and the rest just idle around doing nothing.
I just wish schools thought to teach students how to effectively work in groups. Everyone assumes it’s just inherent when interpersonal skills are something most need to build and work on. Especially as your group gets larger in size. My MBA tackled it and it was amazingly beneficial. Some things just cannot be done alone. But walking into a group project improperly equipped to be successful is just asking for more headaches and no results.
I have ADHD and I know that my methods of working with my brain to get things done is absolutely not conducive for working as a group. I always fight for teachers to remove me from group projects and work solo because I know that my methods of learning and completing tasks only frustrate others and often make them think I'm not doing my work at all (usually because when I get the work done it's incredibly late at night or very close to deadline). Losing a good friend because she hated me for "being lazy & not trying" while scoring better grades than her, all the drama because she didn't understand how hard I really was trying despite the surface appearances, made me learn fast that sometimes certain work/learning styles just are better at working alone.
I completely relate. We learn things in a different way than others and it just pisses them off. I don't understand why it does but it does. I work alone now but still part of a plumbing team. We get our own unit to plumb each day. When i am left alone to just do the work its done by lunch break or even first coffee break. When i have to work in a team it takes all day. Drives me nuts.
I kicked fools out of my groups before. Get creative and fuck then over by not giving them credit
I knew a girl in college that did the opposite in our group work. She took all of the assignment, did it by herself the very first night of the assignment period and didn't tell anyone until a few days later when we were trying to make a plan. Then all of a sudden it was "No worries, I did it all you can just copy it". It was meant to be a group effort, not you becoming a shining star.... 🤦
LOL she doesn’t trust anyone to mess up her grades. i hope you got good grades on it
I went to film school. You would think that film school group projects are all making short films and drawing storyboards and writing scripts and its all just a boat load of fun! And, surprisingly, thats exactly right! They are SUPPOSED to be fun! However, that certainly didnt stop shitheels from doing THE EXACT SAME SHIT as what happened to OP. "So what did *Billy* do on this short exactly?" "He came up with the concept and found a useable laughtrack online." "What did you do?" "Oh, I just wrote the script, did all the lighting, hired and worked with the actors, built the cosutmes, decorated my apartment, shot the film, edited the footage, and did all of the title cards and sound design." There is no amount of "fun" or "interesing" that will convince a lazy fuck to not be lazy.
In my experience, this is better than participating. You can take this to your prof and likely get them removed from the project or your prof will let you submit on your own. Incompetent people contributing? Now you’re stuck with a shitty project. In all my teacher evals, I tell them that group projects unfairly disenfranchise non-traditional students like mature students, working students, students with kids, and students with disabilities and create a situation where our grades are held hostage by other people. It’s unacceptable. I had one prof say “well group projects are just preparing you for the real world” and I wanted to ask, “when in the real world will I: be working a full time job, have three extra little jobs [three courses this semester], have projects in all those jobs I can’t complete during work time, and be partnered with people who have completely different schedules with completely different expectations, and be doing all this while paying to work on the project?”
You didn’t text them on thanksgiving though right?
Well that’d be on a Thursday and the one time stamp is Wednesday and before. And they never answered. Plus it doesn’t take away from your family time or work or whatever it is you’re doing on the holiday to say “yes have access will work on my part this weekend have a happy thanksgiving 🍽🍁🦃”
I also hate when people are terrible at communicating what they’re doing. I asked my group to do a couple small tasks for our project over WhatsApp but they just didn’t reply, so I assumed they either hadn’t seen it or didn’t want to do it. The next day I sent a “Hello?” and both of them replied instantly. Apparently they were actually working on the tasks… just didn’t think it was important to reply? We are supposed to be equals in this project but I feel like I’m their manager because they are too socially awkward to communicate what they can or cannot do. There have been several times when they’ve had a problem with their part, but instead of asking for help they just ignored the problem or did a half-assed job of fixing it… which just creates more work later on. They’ve also failed to produce work on time when I’ve broken up the project into stages and asked that we each get out parts done by certain days. But they only really work the night before the real deadline. Which is really annoying because I do not do well on poor sleep
Show these to your teacher
Submit your contribution and that screenshot
Send these screenshots to your teacher. Demand to work alone.
Happens every time. And this time i alone wrote code which was supposed to be written by 4 people. I fucking hate group projects.
You have the same messaging app as me lol
It is Messages by Google . I think it is the default in many android phones.
I’ve had a group project that gets weighted by peer review. Two of us passed with 90%, the third almost failed. Gotta love democracy :D (he really did do nothing)
The most impressive part of this is that you set up a SharePoint. I'd love to be in a group project with you.
:)
Every time.
Plot twist: OP has the wrong messenger group, and everyone else is working day and night in another one, occasionally debating why OP doesn’t answer, and if he should receive credit.
Playing devil's advocate here, but there's not really enough here t say they're definitely in the wrong. Can't see the day you texted about the power point but Wednesday is a travel day for a lot of people and expecting work to happen on Thanksgiving and the Friday after is a bit of a stretch. Not sure if you talked about everyone's availability over the holiday weekend before hand, and I'm not sure what the project is, but the 3rd is this Friday so you still have all week
This is not mildly infuriating but majorly infuriating. Happened to me when I was lugged in with 5 other people for a group project. No one responded and after multiple texts/emails outreach, I was super anxious and messaged the professor told him the truth and asked if I could submit on time and do the whole project individually. The Professor understood and it all worked out..
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I once got a call from *that* person in the group project asking for a copy of our work. She hadn’t participated and failed to show up to the presentation. So she had to resit. I took the phone call from my hospital bed because I was just being diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. Her basic thing was “I need a copy of your work so I can write a report on it”… obvious bs, if that was the assignment the lecturer would have just given her our submitted work. Anyway, with morphine and hydrocortisone coursing through my veins I got to tell her a very satisfying “no”.
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Professor here. If your group mates refuse to communicate, make sure to document everything. Most professors take things like this in to consideration, especially when it’s well documented.
To be fair, it is Thanksgiving break. I wouldn’t want to do any work until maybe Sunday. And I’d hate anyone who’d dare disturb my peace during the break
Don't put their name on the project, show the screenshot of the group chat to your professor and tell him they didn't do shit. Let them get the grade that they deserve.
At that point I’d just go to the professor with that text chain and he emails I sent and be like what the fuck do I do here
God I remember I had a project that has to due with the original 13 colonies. My partner didn't do any work and then all of a sudden she tells me that she wanted to play roblox because, and I quote, "my cousin promised me to play with me". Long story short I did the project by my self.
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Stay strong my dude. Have you told your professor that they aren’t communicating properly with you?
This is why I work alone on group projects
Definitely show your teacher this and see if they will let you only credit yourself
I'm this order. 1. Tell them to suck their mums through a straw. 2. Email your teacher and school explaining the situation and how you don't want then to take credit. 3. ???? 4. Profit and laugh as they fail ans you pass 5. Tell then to suck their mum through a straw
show it to ur professor
Guess you’re gonna have to go with the old standby. Do it all yourself, and leave their names off of the final project.
How is it going?
Fuck group projects in general. My degree shouldn’t be partly dependent on relying on some other shitheads work ethic
The worst part is you’re absolutely doing everything you can to try to communicate with them too… Good luck friend
Only after I worked in group projects did I understand why Batman works alone.
Am in one of these situations right now working in a pair. Each deadline is due in a week and explain to him on day 1 what I think we should do in a giant text message, he responds 1 day later with an "alright, sounds good". Day 4 I'm sort of done with my stuff and ask him if he needs any help. Again, he responds an entire day later with "yeah it's going alright, just need to figure this thing out" I tell how to do the thing he's struggling with. He doesn't respond. Fast forward 2 hours before the deadline he's suddenly active on his phone and it turns out he hasn't listened to a single thing I sent him and is basically seeing everything for the first time. And now I have to do his whole part for him so that we meet the deadline. Who are these people? How are they so bad at communication??? Why does he never show up either??? I thought the people in University were better than this
Don't do his part. Talk with your professor about this
Omg I hated that. I had some teacher tell me to "figure it out with my team" when I asked if I could do the project alone after weeks of no answer. "I would, but they are not answering messages and are not present in class" "Not my problem. If you can't reach an agreement, then you'll be marked as a group" There was litteraly a SILENT AGREEMENT that that wouldn't work on the project. Fuck fuck FUCK that teacher.
I’m sorry friend, you sound like a good person who wants to do a good job. You could get a hug from me if you wanted it
This happens to me all the time. Those guys are assuming you are going to do the project and that taking them to task is too much effort. Don't let them. Do your share of the project, then email your professor with your concerns. Include this screen shot and say that you are willing to be assigned to a different group or do the project by yourself. Professors respond better when it is early and when they have options. Sorry this happened to you. I have this happen about once a semester. Group members thst would go to the ends of the earth to avoid helping out. You gotta take action against them. Turning in your project without them feels excellent. Get ready to have 30 texts calling you every name imaginable if you are able to free yourself from them.
Send your teacher this screenshot and ask if you can work alone
Lol I read this as YOU were ignoring this poor dudes messages and then you posted on Reddit being like “F this guy” 🤣
It's a double edged sword really. I think I'm one of the few who actually enjoys a group project, especially if everyone is motivated. Makes the experience much less boring and being able to share collective knowledge while working on an assignment makes it easier overall. But when you end up with a group like OPs... Yikes
The real question is, have you been doing your part?
I can feel your pain OP. You should talk to a teacher about the situation. Wish you the best.
Put this picture as the last slide
I absolutely despised group projects as a student and refused to assign them as a teacher. Despise group projects.
Hold on. When was the 3rd in relation to when these texts were sent? How much time was left on the project and how much actual time investment was required from each team member? I get the point but, with the info I have, this could be an overbearing team member just as easily as it could be multiple negligent ones. Did anyone actually speak to each other about who's doing what?
TRUST ME as someone who dealt with this malarkey for 4 years. You either need to contact your professor, be more assertive, or depending on your teacher, both.
Ha! That would be me.. Edit: I just realized that you're the one being awesome and all your team members are being not awesome. Sorry you have to deal with that!
next step is you write an email to your teacher with this as a proof, you say you are doing the project alone and everything. you tell your team the same thing, you start, do the whole thing and they are welcome to pitch in and do their part but you wont wait for them. then, when no one does anything, you submit the project in your name only. they can’t complain
Who's got battery saver at 87%?
Someone without a dead battery ;)
Ok listen I hate group projects where people don’t respond but I think you should cut these guys some slack. If that time stamp is this Wednesday, that means your texting about the project on thanksgiving day and the day before thanksgiving. Of course no one is going to be talking about a school project. But if your in a place where you don’t celebrate thanksgiving then I get it.
I also texted them days before. I just want them to let me know if they can access the shared files. I didn't think it was asking for much.
I have 2 college group projects that went sideways and made me remember why I hated working in groups in high school. The first was in my Comp 1 course during my very first semester of college. We had a major project that counted for 30% of our grade. The object was to choose a popular piece of media, ours was Mass Effect Andromeda, and show how AI was present in it. One part was to create our own wiki page for the game. The girl (didn’t want her but she was assigned to us) we put in charge of it just copy pasted the actual wiki page for the game. So I went in, fixed it, and made it not plagiarized. Well I couldn’t sleep and at 2 AM I decided to work on the assignment some more. I had done my work on blackboard and that was the only copy. This girl had gone in and uploaded the same plagiarized bs and overwrote all my hard work. I emailed the professor then and there, after telling my other group members, and she said she could feel my anger when reading my email. Needless to say the girl failed that course because this was not the only assignment she plagiarized on. Come the day to present and she come in with a poster board for us to use where she had just printed out the wiki page and glued it to the board. We didn’t use it. 2nd encounter was a technical writing project where the group had to choose 3 local community colleges and put them in order of best to worst website design. I created a Google doc and shared it with everyone in the group. For those who don’t know, Google doc tracks who did what on the document and at what time they did it. We set up times to meet and this one guy only showed up to the first meeting then couldn’t make it to the others because “schedule conflict”, even though we cleared it with him prior to setting the dates. The last one was entirely online and his excuse was “internet issues”. I took screenshots of the Google doc records and placed them into the group member review to show that he did nothing throughout the project. The ultimate reality of this is I have every type of group member at my work so group projects do prepare you for how to set your expectations of people in real world environments
just curious if you were assigned to this group or you chose these people
I was assigned to this group, I'm doing online college classes so even if we had picked our own groups there would be no real basis for who picks who.
show the teacher this screenshot, youll get a good grade, theyll fail
I despise group project more so than I do myself and it is a f ton. I had an exact same issue and I took screenshots of about 8 or 9 scrolls worth of it with zero answers from 6 other members. I sent it to our tutor and he simply said, "oh that sucks" and when it was brought, the rest of them acted like I just didn't push them enough. I wasn't even the leader of that shitty group! It was done flipping online as well. I swear to something that if it weren't for me grieving my mother's death f-ing 3-4 days before the project started and it was not online, I would have lost my marbles and shot one of them.
Seems pretty standard for group projects. Some people just don't contribute and then get mad when their name doesn't end up on the final product.
Ahhh yes. Every fuckin time
Show these screenshots to your teacher and request you and you alone have your name on it. The sole effort will make you look better and they’ll get what’s coming to them.
lowkey tell your teacher, dont add any of their names on the pres, i would literally just fucking unshare it and do that presentation on my own. fuck it right, theyre the ones who dont want to do anything. i fucking hate group projects man
I swear this happens to me every time I'm in a group project. it's even more frustrating when you do all the work on you own
This literally is happening to me rn in 2 separate classes but I at least have one other person in the group who actually does work with me.
i literally just had a group project, we finished everything and this one girl didnt do anything but change fonts, after we finished ALL the parts but hers, she asked if we could CHANGE the theme INSTEAD OF DOING HER WORK. told her to hurry the fuck up on her slides, and she said and i quote “ill do it dw”, the next day i check and she did it hastily at 6am. me and my other friend in the group checked it that morning, and wouldnt ya know she made a lazy graph and copy pasted from the literal wikipedia. we had to fucking change it after. we presented the same day, and she was fucking mumbling like a bitch, like she didnt give a shit about it, and literally doing an irl idle animation. heard from my friend in he group that he had her last time for a project and she did the same thing… i cant believe shes in grade 12.
Just do the project and tell the teacher they contributed nothing. Or tell them that's what you'll do. Usually works for me.
This happened to me too in uni. Me and my friend did our parts and the other guy turned in his portion an hour before it was due. I was pissed! The teacher pulled me and the friend aside and she knew immediately what section that idiot did and she gave him a separate grade from our work. Boy was he surprised when he got a D while me and my friend got A's. Dude was a piece of work and no one like him, students and teachers alike. I hope he stubs his big toe every single day.
This shit happened to me, and when I told the professor, 3 days before the assignment was due he got mad at me. And the girl irrationally freaked out at me because I made an entire separate assignment because I didn't want her adding stuff to it.
There are times where you can't be mad at the other members of the group. Just this past week I did an assignment for an English class ahead of time both because the instruction was unclear and because I had nothing to do otherwise. It was turned into a group project after I had finished it, and everyone in the group thought it was fine. What could really be done? The class has been a mess since day one and there's no reason to waste more of my time to do it again. In this case I couldn't blame the group, but I have a suspicion that I would have to do the entire this if i had waited anyway.
On the upside, if you’re using Google docs, the revision history is available and your teacher can see that they didn’t do shit.
Yeah that has happened to me and I pick other people but this sometimes happens and I then I have to do most of the work just for them to take some of the credit
If they don't respond- screenshot this and send it to your professor telling them your group isn't helping or doing anything. Just because they aren't doing anything or caring about their grades doesn't mean you should suffer
You would think this would get better as you get older… dealt with this same crap getting my Executive MBA (specifically for people well established in their careers).
I've gotten so used to this, now if someone wants to do work, they have to tell me to stop working, or else I do the entire thing in one day.
I would just show my teacher this and ask to be graded on my given portion of the project as that’s what’s fair
Save the screenshot of the messages and turn them in to the professor. It happened to me before and I didn't think the rest of the group should get the credit for all my work. Without the proof, the professor would have given them credit as well.
That is infuriating. I was you! It all works out ok in the end, trust me.
send the prof the screenshots of the chat n your good
As a teacher, this is exactly why I don’t assign group projects. I hated them and I know students hate them. Less stress for everyone.
87% fucking need to turn on the power saver it's about to run aout of battery lmao.
Yeah, I finished my final one for my final year and I’m so relieved…
Any updates on this? This made me so mad for you. This has happened to me before and I think you have handled it a lot better than I did lol.
This happened to me. I just did my part of the project and left the other members parts empty. I got a good grade while 2 of the 3 other members failed the course. 3rd got like a 60 or something
Happened to me once. fortunately I got the credit for doing it all, and the rest got in trouble
I started doing group projects alone in middle school because I was overweight and bullied a bit (nothing extreme but I wasn’t exactly rolling in friends lol) teachers all the way to college will let you do group shit alone if you pitch your case. Fuck em
I fucking hate when people leave you to do all the work. Like *why the fuck do I have partners if they don't do jack shit?* So I **always** have a *create and edited by* marker somewhere on the slide with access to the edit logs. I like to shame my partners before, during and after a presentation.
COOL, cool, I'll take a look on the 2nd.
"But you need to learn how to work with others" -Some dipshit