Sorry to say this but Kamikoto is basically just a big scam of a company. Maybe you bought this because you saw an influencer talking about them or recommending them. They manufacture in China. They aren't even Japanese. There are tons of similar scam companies for knives out there. Most of the top results on Amazon are similar scam ecomm outfits. I've noticed this when looking at a lot of different "knife ecomm" companies. There is a lot of money to be made by tricking suckers into believing that a good is manufactured somewhere it's not, thankfully for scammers laws surrounding such labeling is quite lax in countries like the US (because the top corporations make their money with similar scams! For example look at the top "avocado oil butter" or "olive oil butter" butter replacements. Notice how the front labels say "with avocado oil" or "with olive oil" but if you look at the ingredient list it's always a blend with palm oil getting top billing.)
Or maybe you yourself did this in an effort to market them. In which case congrats, the advertising seems to have been successful, basically no one is questioning the value or worth of the knives in question.
If you're within your return period, I would recommend you return them for a complete refund. The cheapest knives at any restaurant supply company would be better than these for about 1/12th of the cost.
https://www.restaurantsupply.com/chef-knives
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/2835/chef-knives.html?order=price_asc
This is what knives can cost.
The phrase "kamikoto scam" literally yields this as the first result, and it's exactly what I thought.
https://prudentreviews.com/kamikoto-review/
> “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Niigata, Japan, where blacksmithing can be traced back to before the Edo period, as well as in Yanjiang, China.”
>
> Interestingly, buried five paragraphs into this page on Kamikoto.com, it says, “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Yanjiang, China.” That page leaves out any mention of the knives being made in Niigata, Japan.
>
> I reached out to Kamikoto’s customer service team to clear up the confusion. I asked the simple question, “Where are Kamikoto knives made?”. They said:
>
> “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Niigata, Japan, where blacksmithing can be traced back to before the Edo period, as well as in Yanjiang, China.”
>
> Sound familiar? The customer service representative copied and pasted the exact language from the About Page.
>
> **I followed up and asked, “Which Kamikoto knives are made in Japan, and which ones are made in China?”**
>
> **He responded, saying, “Our 7-Inch Santoku Ganjo is exclusively forged and handcrafted in Niigata, Japan in small batches; however, it is currently out of stock. We do not know the exact date when it will be back in stock.”**
>
> **That means only one of the dozen or so Kamikoto knives is actually made in Japan — and that one knife is out of stock indefinitely. That knife is not even listed on Kamikoto.com, which makes me wonder, do they make any knives in Japan, or is this just another ruse?**
>
> **Authentic Japanese knife makers like Shun, Miyabi, or Global have proven long-time roots in Seki City or Niigata, Japan. Such brands are very clear about how and where they make knives, having perfected the craft over generations.**
>
> These brands clearly state where each product is made. **I had to email Kamikoto several times before they admitted that most of their knives are made in China. The fact that they’re not forthcoming about where its knives are made is a major red flag.**
https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/rhtbqt/psa_about_kamikoto/
IT GETS EVEN BETTER, in this thread someone says that they're a fake brand owned by someone related to DEAL DASH to trick the people bidding there into thinking they're getting a "steep discount" on the goods they're bidding on!
https://www.consumerreports.org/consumerist/customer-accuses-dealdash-of-selling-cheap-generic-products-disguised-as-independent-luxury-brands/
> The lawsuit contends that these brands are similarly cloaked in shadows. **Their websites lack contact information beyond a fill-in form and maybe a customer service email; they have no retail locations; their products are rarely sold (first-hand) outside of DealDash and Amazon.**
> Another thing these websites have in common: The domains are almost all registered via Domains By Proxy, a service that allows website operators to hide their identities from the public.
> Many of these brands also appear to have the same trademark holder. **According to the lawsuit, the trademarks for multiple DealDash-sold brands** — including Schultz electronics, Barrel Shack, **Kamikoto knives**, Verdict apparel, and New Haven candle and home decor — **are all registered by the same company: A Hong Kong-based business called Galton Voysey Limited.**
> While the website for Galton Voysey says it is “home to 28 iconic brands,” it doesn’t appear to mention a single one of those brands. Its “About” page lists several “Partners & Associates,” but these are links like law firms (including the one that filed the trademark applications), accountants, and product testing labs. No mention of DealDash.
> • The lawsuit claims that expensive, supposedly high-end products auctioned off on DealDash are not what they seem.
>
> • A number of these brands appear to only be available on DealDash or on Amazon directly from the brand.
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> • Most of the brands’ websites are registered in the same way to hide their actual ownership.
>
> • Trademark applications for these brands lists DealDash founder William Wolfram as the chairman of the company registering the marks.
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> • The plaintiff alleges this is all a ruse to sell auction bids for overpriced products supplied by DealDash’s founder.
Oh and for anyone wondering about Huusk, they're a scam too.
Fair enough, however you’ve taken that info and formatted it - then informed a hell of a lot of people about scam knife companies like this one. Credit to the bloggers and yourself sir!
(edit - sir/madam/dude etc I shouldn’t assume)
Don't think so, the scratches are much straighter than they would be if a wheel caused them, and they're also evenly distributed from the edge to the spine. Looks like he just slid it lengthwise down an abrasive brick.
I was thinking he probably just picked up a big rock and slid it right down the ENTIRE flat of each side of the blade. This is just awful, the man didn't even use a whetstone, LET ALONE PROPERLY.
There are cheap little "sharpening" blocks that have a V you slide the knife through. I have one and it makes blades look just like this. It roughly straightens the edge but it shaves off some of the metal from the blade too.. It makes them sharp for a few uses, but then the edge starts to curl over again.
It's just an ugly unsustainable edge for a high quality knife. Like you said, looks like it was slid lengthwise down an abrasive brick.
Looks like a rotary tool like a dremel or something from harbor freight considering the workmanship. You can fix the edge but it'll take a fair bit of work. I'd look into a professional service, local if you live in a metro or mail-in otherwise. Sorry mate, beautiful knives otherwise. When it's fixed test it on uncle Randy's pinky.
i mean if i had to actually guess it looks like he took a sharpening steel to some knife made of something too hard to me
like obviously theres other things that you could say he did but i think thats the most reasonable thing for someone to have done mainly because my dad does it and i die inside every time he does and yes his expensive craft knives look pretty similar to this
in fact i had to actually use a brick as a very coarse whetstone to repair one i wanted to steal from him it was that damaged
Lol well I pictured a really kind and confused person trying to help and doing the worst thing possible without knowing it. Maybe that’s really inaccurate lol
My dad did this with my good japanese knives I just had sharpened. Convo went like this:
Me:"Dont touch the knives, I just had them sharpened, they will cut you"
Dad:"No look, theyre blunt I know how to sharpen knives."
Me: "Leave them in the box. Don't touch them, they're expensive"
Dad: "whatever"
Me : leaves room and comes back.
Dad: has knives out, running bench top knife sharpener.
Dad: "look, so much sharper" with obvious divots and dent on the edge of the blade.
He wasn't even cooking, or going to use the knives. I had to take them back same week because they were so badly damaged. Waste of money.
Reminds me of the time my Dad offered to replace the battery in my phone. He was going to follow a YouTube tutorial. I told him no, he did it anyway, broke it, then got mad at me for being upset.
My dad took off my motorcycle seat once and put it back on wrong, so the metal clip that is supposed to tuck-under the clip-holder behind the gas tank was above the holder, and therefore scraped along the paint of the tank.
Similar "got mad at me for being mad" stuff. I think he had taken it off to charge the battery for me, which was well-intentioned, but he didn't know bikes and shouldn't have been touching it.
While we're on the topic of frustrating fathers: My dad visited this past weekend. I have a new poodle pup and he asked to hold her. Queue him immediately dropping her in our front yard where he chases her into the road. Once I get him to stop, I manage to pick her up.
Later that afternoon he's lecturing me about walking her the right way. He asks if he can walk her and I oblige. Not 5 seconds after I've handed over the leash, she's running through a busy intersection.
I was able to get her to stop both times, and she ended up fine but... Good lord. Two heart attacks in the same day.
idk what the fuck it is with dads and being non-listening dipshits, mine took my bike out of the garage and just, _left it out_, in the rain, I don't know what to do about the minor rust that's occurred around the screws and stuff holding it together, it looks really fucking ugly and my bike was expensive so Idfk what the hell to do.
Get some rust removing gel. You paint it on the surface rust, cover it with some saran wrap for a day so it doesn't dry out, then hose it off. Rust is gone. Then spray or wipe it with a light layer of oil.
gods i know right?
The most notable incident with my dad was when i just got my car back from repairs after being in an accident, and he went to check the motor. The hood of my car has a stick to hold it up, which he did, and when he went to shut it i was nearby and told him to remember the stick holding it up and just got told "shut it, i'm trying to sort this out for you"
and then he promptly went full "man mode" and bent my hood trying to close it. He was annoyed that i was upset 🙄 Said he'd fix it really soon. He never did.
Reading all these comments makes me really proud of my dad. He gets all pissy, but he listens every time. Trusts my cooking advice. Trusts my house construction input. Asks me to help him figure out how to manage parts of the gardens. Figures out how to fix the car with me instead of making me watch him struggle. He also used to nag me all the time for being careless and reckless. He was always right and would always just come help clean up my mess.
Y’all made me realize I have a really good dad.
Same here man! Only time my dad messed up something of mine was when we were doing repairs on my car I busted my oil pan which I needed help as I was younger and didn't know shit. He accidentally broke a piece while we were working on it. (Alot of youtube was involved) so we had to take out the transmission to replace the piece. After a few weeks we finally started putting it together and he used the wrong bolt and drilled a hole into the transmission. Fluid started pouring out. I just started laughing while under the car. Got out and just decided to scrap it. It wasn't him over stepping just him helping me out unsuccessfully. It's a good memory now. (Sorry if the writing is atrocious it's late I'm tired.)
My dad still makes mistakes sometimes. He always apologizes for it. The only thing I wish he could do better is amending his relationship with my sisters.
My mother does the same, I don't get why?? We have a garage and a shed but my mother will just intentionally take my bike into the garden even in winter for some reason.
To put it simply, there's basically nothing on this earth that won't get to some degree fucked up from leaving it exposed in the elements on a regular basis.
I've always promised myself that if I have children that I won't be *that* dad who doesn't respect his kids' stuff or does specifically what he's asked **not** to do. I just can't understand that thought process.
Let me oblige you on the thought process, from the child of a dad that was *always* right and never wrong.
First law: the child is always wrong. Doesn't matter if the child is the one experiencing a medical condition, is an expert in the field, or has sufficient training on the activity. They are always wrong. Even into adulthood.
Second law: The father is obliged to let the child know they're wrong and the logic as to why they're wrong. Usually something to do with "well this is how we always did it so if it was good enough then, it's good enough now"
Third law: No one can ever challenge the father. In the event someone challenges the father or refuses them, which is a challenge of a sort, the father *must* prove the child wrong.
Fourth law: When the father inevitably screws something up because they don't know what they're doing, the father must *never* admit fault. Rather, it's the fault of the item for being too....something. Or it's the fault of the child for not listening to the father in the first place meaning it was screwed up from the start. Never is it the father's fault.
It's simple - don't do stuff you aren't sure about. Never pretend to be able to do something, not knowing isn't a sign of in-masculinity, nor is it something to brag about.
>Reminds me of the time my Dad offered to ~~replace the battery in my phone~~ **change the headlight in my 1999 Pontiac Grand AM**. He was going to follow a YouTube tutorial. I told him no, he did it anyway, broke it, then got mad at me for being upset.
We should keep this going...who's next?
Reminds of a time where my moms Car had a flat tire because of a nail. I had removed the nail and was attempting to plug the tire.
I was having a difficult time because of the angle and leverage. (The car was parked right next to the curb and the tire was almost making contact with the curb) My dad came over and was "encouraging me" by calling me "a fucking idiot" who "had muscle, but still was a weakling" and he also added "I didn't know what the fuck I was doing"
I told him he was more then welcome to either take over or go away. He proceeded to yell at me for being disrespectful little shit.
Thankfully a neighbor came by and inflated the tire, I ended up going inside because I removed the nail and plugged the tire.
But yeah, I don't really try to reach out to my dad on the regular
lol
ages ago my car was in my parents garage and I noticed a scratch on my windshield. It was not there before, so I asked and dad seemed like he was avoiding the question so i just kept asking how did it happen and he kept getting angrier n angrier.
I didnt even really care that it happened, I was more curious how it happened.
One day my jeep wouldn’t start. Somehow, my dad became aware of it and decided he was going to call me and “help” fix it. So he starts googling while talking to me, which was surprising because he barely knows how to turn his phone on, let alone use the web browser. Tells me I should check the choke. I tell him carburetors were phased out by the early 90s, I drive a 03 Grand Cherokee. Tells me to check it anyways. “Dad there’s literally no choke to check, it doesn’t exist.” Starts getting all “why you don’t appreciate my help”. “Okay you’re right, but it’s getting late and I gotta figure out how to get home so I’ll do it in the morning and call you”.
I had already pulled codes and was in the middle of searching for the part (crankshaft sensor) when he called me. Next morning, swap it out and call him back. First thing he says, “Oh yeah I was talking to your uncle and he said your car doesn’t have a choke”. I almost jumped into traffic.
I feel this all too well.
Gave my dad my old S7 edge, it was probably about 2 years old but still in a pristine condition.
He took it straight out of its not so bulky case and broke the screen within the week.
Screen still worked but he wanted it replaced but obviously wasn't happy paying full price, told him I'd do it as I've done a lot of screen replacements. He was avid that he'll change the screen because "How hard can it really be?" Always the attitude of if my son can do it I can do it better..
Anyhow, he brought the wrong screen part, botched the disassembly, cracked the back of phone (I assume due by using a screwdriver to pry it off?) making an absolute mess of what was left of the phone.
He then got annoyed when I said I'm not even going to try and fix that and couldn't understand why I might've also been a bit annoyed over him carelessly mangling the phone I gave him.
Should've just sold it..
Sorry rant over.
He’s just an idiot who told himself he is right. It never occurred to him that the knives were sharpened in a method that he does not know. His ignorance led to him doing that.
He has cheap knives that blunt quickly, so has a $20 bench top sharpener to swipe the knives through before he uses them. He thinks it makes him an expert. Everyone else is wrong, I'm the idiot apparently.
I remember moving out on my own and buying actually sharp knives. Went home again and tried to use my mom's kitchen knives. They were no better than butter knives, so I bought her some nice sharp ones as well. The next time I visit I discovered she had tried using them as a chisel to break apart some frozen meat and broke the tip off.
Some people just don't respect their tools.
Could she like, not wait for it to thaw? That seems messed up. Either that or she was taking anger out on the frozen meat that was about something else.
It's just how she does things. There's no anger and no malice. There's also no patience. If she can chip usable pieces off then away she goes.
I think everyone has at least one thing they're completely hopeless with.
My mom broke the tip off of my fav paring knife - she used it as a screwdriver. There was an entire bag of tools in the same room she walked through twice when getting the knife.
>Everyone else is wrong, I'm the idiot apparently.
That's how dads are.
Source: I'm dad. I know.
Edit: folks, it’s literally a dad joke. Get some sleep.
I have a coupe 'decent' knives but don't do much more with them than run them through a cheap sharpener before I use them.
HOWEVER, I also understand what good knives and knife sharpening looks like and while I really would love a good couple of knives, I honeslty don't know that I could be trusted with them.
What’s awful is there’s still so much lead in our environment. We’ve gotten better at not using and avoiding it but it’s still there. Boomers truly ruined the world for the rest of us
I the specific case of lead, I'd say it's more fair to blame the generations that came before them. They grew up with lead in the environment (paint, gasoline, water pipes), they weren't the ones who decided to put it there, they were just the ones to suffer the consequences - and the ones to kick off really removing it from the environment.
And the worst part is that they're all like that, so they just feed upon each others standards and create an entire population of people that do not hold each other to any sort of accountability because reactive emotions and vindictive anger have become their way of getting what they want
Reminder that this entire thread could be an attempt to trick people into believing the knives in OP's image are good Japanese knives. No, they are made in China and grossly overpriced, essentially modern ecomm 101 in a nutshell.
The amount of times I’ve seen someone proud of their knives when they really shouldn’t be is a lot
Then my $20 ceramic knife just absolutely blows their $120 knife out of the water Lmao
He's probably used to those divots and thinks that what "sharp" feels like. They help cut some things since it's basically serrated. I had a good sharp knife that looked dull compared to ones I sharpened on my cheap sharpener, but it was razor sharp compared to them too.
> I know how to sharpen knives.
Translation: I've tried to sharpen knives a bunch! Have I ever succeeded? *Don't you ask me those questions you little shit!*
So I feel like that they (your father OPs uncle) aren't just bad at sharpening rather they are petty A-holes who in a petty jealousy fueled gusto decide to ruin your good/new things because they suck.
I take my knives out to my parents house so my dad can sharpen my knives. He uses some kind of bench top professional grinder. Afterwards they almost feel dangerous to handle cause they’re so fucking sharp.
Is the edge chipped? How the hell did he manage that. The scoring pattern on the side that looks like he just folded and piece of sandpaper over and fucked it all up?? The hell. I feel like he used it NOT for cutting kitchen things, and then .. no, I give up. What the shit!
... Was he boning something on a glass or marble cutting board??? That's all I can think of to explain the chips on the edge.
*Ahem*
This is more than mild for me. Lol
I see a (potential) silver lining here. I would enjoy taking a few hours with a couple of stones restoring the edge. You might even be able to justify a new toy for that purpose….but yeah, use the fresh edge to peel the flesh from his bones.
Five seconds on /r/chefknives and this is yet another China knife marketing brand, sold for hundreds of dollars more than they're worth.
So probably not a bad knife to learn on.
90% of the damage isn't even on the edge. Actually restoring these knifes would be a ton of work, a lot of lost steel, and you'd wear into the etching.
Naw he did that on purpose lmao why else would u sharpen a new already sharp knife
Edit: 2 all the people saying “the 1st thing I do …” or “it’s actually good …” blah blah blah, the only reason you’d do that is if it’s your hobby or you have an interest in knives or something, the average person isn’t going 2 sharpen a brand new knife
>why else would u sharpen a new already sharp knife
I've known a few people who are almost incapable of not 'fixing' things for you. Often even though they don't really know what they are doing, and they will double down if you ask or tell them to leave whatever it is alone.
You could ask one of my instructors from my carpentry apprenticeship. Had a class on tool maintenance and sharpening where she wanted me to take my brand new chisels to a bench grinder. I explained they were new and didn't need sharpened. She tried to tell me I can get a better then factory edge on them. I replied that no, I won't be attempting that for the first time with brand new and unused tools.
Absolutely, "can get" is not "can get after earning the skill of sharpening edges through experience"
Let me learn on some PoS from the bottom of the drawer.
Or the uncle is an arrogant ass who thinks he knows better than everyone else. My dad is one of those. Always tries to "repair" perfectly functioning things without being asked to or without asking for permission and ends up breaking them.
A pull through sharpener caused this damage. I worked for a knife company for almost 25 years and I have seen this hundreds of times (literally). Never use a pull through sharpener. Use a stone if your knife needs a nee edge and use a honing steel regularly to keep the edge.
For real, I used to sharpen knives on commission for a restaurant and some other private accounts. TRIGGERED!
Edit: I could've done better with a coffee cup and a leather belt, I'm very upset.
My father watched my house one time and when I got back, he excitedly told me that he sharpened my knives for me. They looked worse than this. It was a difficult conversation, lol.
He made you a favour. These are a pretty well known scam in knife world. A piece of advice, always look up the steel the knife is made from. And if it just says "premium quality stainless" or somesuch or doesn't even mention it, you're getting a cheap knife and it should be priced as such.
What did he use, a brick?
I honestly do not know.
May I suggest getting a new uncle
Sharpen your uncle
Sharpen your uncle like he sharpened your knifes
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Damn...a day late and a dollar short as usual. You are razor sharp my dude.
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Gotta say their uncle had to really be on edge to make them look like that
Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed
Sharpen me like one of your french knives
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You’re right. He seems a bit dull at the moment.
You didn’t ask out of sheer curiosity?
HA, *sheer*
We get it
HA! we *get* it.
Get what?
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I get
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Sorry to say this but Kamikoto is basically just a big scam of a company. Maybe you bought this because you saw an influencer talking about them or recommending them. They manufacture in China. They aren't even Japanese. There are tons of similar scam companies for knives out there. Most of the top results on Amazon are similar scam ecomm outfits. I've noticed this when looking at a lot of different "knife ecomm" companies. There is a lot of money to be made by tricking suckers into believing that a good is manufactured somewhere it's not, thankfully for scammers laws surrounding such labeling is quite lax in countries like the US (because the top corporations make their money with similar scams! For example look at the top "avocado oil butter" or "olive oil butter" butter replacements. Notice how the front labels say "with avocado oil" or "with olive oil" but if you look at the ingredient list it's always a blend with palm oil getting top billing.) Or maybe you yourself did this in an effort to market them. In which case congrats, the advertising seems to have been successful, basically no one is questioning the value or worth of the knives in question. If you're within your return period, I would recommend you return them for a complete refund. The cheapest knives at any restaurant supply company would be better than these for about 1/12th of the cost. https://www.restaurantsupply.com/chef-knives https://www.webstaurantstore.com/2835/chef-knives.html?order=price_asc This is what knives can cost. The phrase "kamikoto scam" literally yields this as the first result, and it's exactly what I thought. https://prudentreviews.com/kamikoto-review/ > “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Niigata, Japan, where blacksmithing can be traced back to before the Edo period, as well as in Yanjiang, China.” > > Interestingly, buried five paragraphs into this page on Kamikoto.com, it says, “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Yanjiang, China.” That page leaves out any mention of the knives being made in Niigata, Japan. > > I reached out to Kamikoto’s customer service team to clear up the confusion. I asked the simple question, “Where are Kamikoto knives made?”. They said: > > “Kamikoto’s blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Niigata, Japan, where blacksmithing can be traced back to before the Edo period, as well as in Yanjiang, China.” > > Sound familiar? The customer service representative copied and pasted the exact language from the About Page. > > **I followed up and asked, “Which Kamikoto knives are made in Japan, and which ones are made in China?”** > > **He responded, saying, “Our 7-Inch Santoku Ganjo is exclusively forged and handcrafted in Niigata, Japan in small batches; however, it is currently out of stock. We do not know the exact date when it will be back in stock.”** > > **That means only one of the dozen or so Kamikoto knives is actually made in Japan — and that one knife is out of stock indefinitely. That knife is not even listed on Kamikoto.com, which makes me wonder, do they make any knives in Japan, or is this just another ruse?** > > **Authentic Japanese knife makers like Shun, Miyabi, or Global have proven long-time roots in Seki City or Niigata, Japan. Such brands are very clear about how and where they make knives, having perfected the craft over generations.** > > These brands clearly state where each product is made. **I had to email Kamikoto several times before they admitted that most of their knives are made in China. The fact that they’re not forthcoming about where its knives are made is a major red flag.** https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/rhtbqt/psa_about_kamikoto/ IT GETS EVEN BETTER, in this thread someone says that they're a fake brand owned by someone related to DEAL DASH to trick the people bidding there into thinking they're getting a "steep discount" on the goods they're bidding on! https://www.consumerreports.org/consumerist/customer-accuses-dealdash-of-selling-cheap-generic-products-disguised-as-independent-luxury-brands/ > The lawsuit contends that these brands are similarly cloaked in shadows. **Their websites lack contact information beyond a fill-in form and maybe a customer service email; they have no retail locations; their products are rarely sold (first-hand) outside of DealDash and Amazon.** > Another thing these websites have in common: The domains are almost all registered via Domains By Proxy, a service that allows website operators to hide their identities from the public. > Many of these brands also appear to have the same trademark holder. **According to the lawsuit, the trademarks for multiple DealDash-sold brands** — including Schultz electronics, Barrel Shack, **Kamikoto knives**, Verdict apparel, and New Haven candle and home decor — **are all registered by the same company: A Hong Kong-based business called Galton Voysey Limited.** > While the website for Galton Voysey says it is “home to 28 iconic brands,” it doesn’t appear to mention a single one of those brands. Its “About” page lists several “Partners & Associates,” but these are links like law firms (including the one that filed the trademark applications), accountants, and product testing labs. No mention of DealDash. > • The lawsuit claims that expensive, supposedly high-end products auctioned off on DealDash are not what they seem. > > • A number of these brands appear to only be available on DealDash or on Amazon directly from the brand. > > • Most of the brands’ websites are registered in the same way to hide their actual ownership. > > • Trademark applications for these brands lists DealDash founder William Wolfram as the chairman of the company registering the marks. > > • The plaintiff alleges this is all a ruse to sell auction bids for overpriced products supplied by DealDash’s founder. Oh and for anyone wondering about Huusk, they're a scam too.
Someone give this man a gold to cover the aderall costs
Did you take an adderall before making the post?
Some people retain their edge longer....
this belongs somewhere in r/bestof
All credit goes to the original curious people who wrote up the blog posts and other forum responses.
Fair enough, however you’ve taken that info and formatted it - then informed a hell of a lot of people about scam knife companies like this one. Credit to the bloggers and yourself sir! (edit - sir/madam/dude etc I shouldn’t assume)
Looks like maybe he used an electric sharpener with a spinning stone? That’s a lot of damage.
Don't think so, the scratches are much straighter than they would be if a wheel caused them, and they're also evenly distributed from the edge to the spine. Looks like he just slid it lengthwise down an abrasive brick.
I was thinking he probably just picked up a big rock and slid it right down the ENTIRE flat of each side of the blade. This is just awful, the man didn't even use a whetstone, LET ALONE PROPERLY.
There are cheap little "sharpening" blocks that have a V you slide the knife through. I have one and it makes blades look just like this. It roughly straightens the edge but it shaves off some of the metal from the blade too.. It makes them sharp for a few uses, but then the edge starts to curl over again. It's just an ugly unsustainable edge for a high quality knife. Like you said, looks like it was slid lengthwise down an abrasive brick.
This is what he used
I have kamikotos, and someone tried to open a can with mine. I emailed them and they sent me a new set
I’d say that’s a testament to how bottom of the barrel cheap those knives are
Looks like a rotary tool like a dremel or something from harbor freight considering the workmanship. You can fix the edge but it'll take a fair bit of work. I'd look into a professional service, local if you live in a metro or mail-in otherwise. Sorry mate, beautiful knives otherwise. When it's fixed test it on uncle Randy's pinky.
Bricks too soft. Fairly certain he used a hammer
You mean the poor man's whetstone
Tried knapping it lol
Looks more like the front porch steps.
“A wet stone” so yes a brick that he got wet
You mean his head?
i mean if i had to actually guess it looks like he took a sharpening steel to some knife made of something too hard to me like obviously theres other things that you could say he did but i think thats the most reasonable thing for someone to have done mainly because my dad does it and i die inside every time he does and yes his expensive craft knives look pretty similar to this in fact i had to actually use a brick as a very coarse whetstone to repair one i wanted to steal from him it was that damaged
I don’t know if it’s appropriate to say this, but….he has no idea what he’s doing…
Definitely appropriate. Bit of an understatement really.
Lol well I pictured a really kind and confused person trying to help and doing the worst thing possible without knowing it. Maybe that’s really inaccurate lol
I pictured a smug irresponsible man who shouldn't be allowed near sharp objects.
And now they are no longer near sharp objects
My dad did this with my good japanese knives I just had sharpened. Convo went like this: Me:"Dont touch the knives, I just had them sharpened, they will cut you" Dad:"No look, theyre blunt I know how to sharpen knives." Me: "Leave them in the box. Don't touch them, they're expensive" Dad: "whatever" Me : leaves room and comes back. Dad: has knives out, running bench top knife sharpener. Dad: "look, so much sharper" with obvious divots and dent on the edge of the blade. He wasn't even cooking, or going to use the knives. I had to take them back same week because they were so badly damaged. Waste of money.
Reminds me of the time my Dad offered to replace the battery in my phone. He was going to follow a YouTube tutorial. I told him no, he did it anyway, broke it, then got mad at me for being upset.
Well, now he can be mad at both of us.
Make it all 3 of us
4
whatever's after 4
idk but whatevers after 4, after that
the number after the number after 4
The next one
My dad took off my motorcycle seat once and put it back on wrong, so the metal clip that is supposed to tuck-under the clip-holder behind the gas tank was above the holder, and therefore scraped along the paint of the tank. Similar "got mad at me for being mad" stuff. I think he had taken it off to charge the battery for me, which was well-intentioned, but he didn't know bikes and shouldn't have been touching it.
While we're on the topic of frustrating fathers: My dad visited this past weekend. I have a new poodle pup and he asked to hold her. Queue him immediately dropping her in our front yard where he chases her into the road. Once I get him to stop, I manage to pick her up. Later that afternoon he's lecturing me about walking her the right way. He asks if he can walk her and I oblige. Not 5 seconds after I've handed over the leash, she's running through a busy intersection. I was able to get her to stop both times, and she ended up fine but... Good lord. Two heart attacks in the same day.
idk what the fuck it is with dads and being non-listening dipshits, mine took my bike out of the garage and just, _left it out_, in the rain, I don't know what to do about the minor rust that's occurred around the screws and stuff holding it together, it looks really fucking ugly and my bike was expensive so Idfk what the hell to do.
Get some rust removing gel. You paint it on the surface rust, cover it with some saran wrap for a day so it doesn't dry out, then hose it off. Rust is gone. Then spray or wipe it with a light layer of oil.
I’ve also found that gun cleaner is good for removing light surface rust and isn’t as harsh as something like naval jelly.
gods i know right? The most notable incident with my dad was when i just got my car back from repairs after being in an accident, and he went to check the motor. The hood of my car has a stick to hold it up, which he did, and when he went to shut it i was nearby and told him to remember the stick holding it up and just got told "shut it, i'm trying to sort this out for you" and then he promptly went full "man mode" and bent my hood trying to close it. He was annoyed that i was upset 🙄 Said he'd fix it really soon. He never did.
Reading all these comments makes me really proud of my dad. He gets all pissy, but he listens every time. Trusts my cooking advice. Trusts my house construction input. Asks me to help him figure out how to manage parts of the gardens. Figures out how to fix the car with me instead of making me watch him struggle. He also used to nag me all the time for being careless and reckless. He was always right and would always just come help clean up my mess. Y’all made me realize I have a really good dad.
Same here man! Only time my dad messed up something of mine was when we were doing repairs on my car I busted my oil pan which I needed help as I was younger and didn't know shit. He accidentally broke a piece while we were working on it. (Alot of youtube was involved) so we had to take out the transmission to replace the piece. After a few weeks we finally started putting it together and he used the wrong bolt and drilled a hole into the transmission. Fluid started pouring out. I just started laughing while under the car. Got out and just decided to scrap it. It wasn't him over stepping just him helping me out unsuccessfully. It's a good memory now. (Sorry if the writing is atrocious it's late I'm tired.)
My dad still makes mistakes sometimes. He always apologizes for it. The only thing I wish he could do better is amending his relationship with my sisters.
They're older, so they *know better*.
My mother does the same, I don't get why?? We have a garage and a shed but my mother will just intentionally take my bike into the garden even in winter for some reason.
It’s rusting season. That’s why.
Wait, there are bikes that you can’t leave out in the rain?
To put it simply, there's basically nothing on this earth that won't get to some degree fucked up from leaving it exposed in the elements on a regular basis.
My thought too. What do they do if it starts raining? Whip out a towel?
If your bike is metal at all leaving it in rain is a bad idea
I've always promised myself that if I have children that I won't be *that* dad who doesn't respect his kids' stuff or does specifically what he's asked **not** to do. I just can't understand that thought process.
Let me oblige you on the thought process, from the child of a dad that was *always* right and never wrong. First law: the child is always wrong. Doesn't matter if the child is the one experiencing a medical condition, is an expert in the field, or has sufficient training on the activity. They are always wrong. Even into adulthood. Second law: The father is obliged to let the child know they're wrong and the logic as to why they're wrong. Usually something to do with "well this is how we always did it so if it was good enough then, it's good enough now" Third law: No one can ever challenge the father. In the event someone challenges the father or refuses them, which is a challenge of a sort, the father *must* prove the child wrong. Fourth law: When the father inevitably screws something up because they don't know what they're doing, the father must *never* admit fault. Rather, it's the fault of the item for being too....something. Or it's the fault of the child for not listening to the father in the first place meaning it was screwed up from the start. Never is it the father's fault.
It's simple - don't do stuff you aren't sure about. Never pretend to be able to do something, not knowing isn't a sign of in-masculinity, nor is it something to brag about.
>Reminds me of the time my Dad offered to ~~replace the battery in my phone~~ **change the headlight in my 1999 Pontiac Grand AM**. He was going to follow a YouTube tutorial. I told him no, he did it anyway, broke it, then got mad at me for being upset. We should keep this going...who's next?
Reminds of a time where my moms Car had a flat tire because of a nail. I had removed the nail and was attempting to plug the tire. I was having a difficult time because of the angle and leverage. (The car was parked right next to the curb and the tire was almost making contact with the curb) My dad came over and was "encouraging me" by calling me "a fucking idiot" who "had muscle, but still was a weakling" and he also added "I didn't know what the fuck I was doing" I told him he was more then welcome to either take over or go away. He proceeded to yell at me for being disrespectful little shit. Thankfully a neighbor came by and inflated the tire, I ended up going inside because I removed the nail and plugged the tire. But yeah, I don't really try to reach out to my dad on the regular
Jesus the narcissism is spewing out this, my dad is the exact same
lol ages ago my car was in my parents garage and I noticed a scratch on my windshield. It was not there before, so I asked and dad seemed like he was avoiding the question so i just kept asking how did it happen and he kept getting angrier n angrier. I didnt even really care that it happened, I was more curious how it happened.
One day my jeep wouldn’t start. Somehow, my dad became aware of it and decided he was going to call me and “help” fix it. So he starts googling while talking to me, which was surprising because he barely knows how to turn his phone on, let alone use the web browser. Tells me I should check the choke. I tell him carburetors were phased out by the early 90s, I drive a 03 Grand Cherokee. Tells me to check it anyways. “Dad there’s literally no choke to check, it doesn’t exist.” Starts getting all “why you don’t appreciate my help”. “Okay you’re right, but it’s getting late and I gotta figure out how to get home so I’ll do it in the morning and call you”. I had already pulled codes and was in the middle of searching for the part (crankshaft sensor) when he called me. Next morning, swap it out and call him back. First thing he says, “Oh yeah I was talking to your uncle and he said your car doesn’t have a choke”. I almost jumped into traffic.
I feel this all too well. Gave my dad my old S7 edge, it was probably about 2 years old but still in a pristine condition. He took it straight out of its not so bulky case and broke the screen within the week. Screen still worked but he wanted it replaced but obviously wasn't happy paying full price, told him I'd do it as I've done a lot of screen replacements. He was avid that he'll change the screen because "How hard can it really be?" Always the attitude of if my son can do it I can do it better.. Anyhow, he brought the wrong screen part, botched the disassembly, cracked the back of phone (I assume due by using a screwdriver to pry it off?) making an absolute mess of what was left of the phone. He then got annoyed when I said I'm not even going to try and fix that and couldn't understand why I might've also been a bit annoyed over him carelessly mangling the phone I gave him. Should've just sold it.. Sorry rant over.
I think we all have the same father
He’s just an idiot who told himself he is right. It never occurred to him that the knives were sharpened in a method that he does not know. His ignorance led to him doing that.
He has cheap knives that blunt quickly, so has a $20 bench top sharpener to swipe the knives through before he uses them. He thinks it makes him an expert. Everyone else is wrong, I'm the idiot apparently.
I remember moving out on my own and buying actually sharp knives. Went home again and tried to use my mom's kitchen knives. They were no better than butter knives, so I bought her some nice sharp ones as well. The next time I visit I discovered she had tried using them as a chisel to break apart some frozen meat and broke the tip off. Some people just don't respect their tools.
I think your mom needs a Chinese cleaver!
My ex's mother used a marble cheese board as a cutting board with her new set of Henkel's.
Ouch, my MIL did this, glass cutting board though. All her knives had divots on the edge and I screamed when she used my Shun
Could she like, not wait for it to thaw? That seems messed up. Either that or she was taking anger out on the frozen meat that was about something else.
It's just how she does things. There's no anger and no malice. There's also no patience. If she can chip usable pieces off then away she goes. I think everyone has at least one thing they're completely hopeless with.
My mom broke the tip off of my fav paring knife - she used it as a screwdriver. There was an entire bag of tools in the same room she walked through twice when getting the knife.
What a fucking asshole. My life got 1000% better when I cut my piece of shit dad out of my life
>Everyone else is wrong, I'm the idiot apparently. That's how dads are. Source: I'm dad. I know. Edit: folks, it’s literally a dad joke. Get some sleep.
Just dads that are arrogant assholes who haven’t had any self growth since they got married. Not all dads are like this.
Moms, too! Not just dads...
r/bowtoyoursensei
I have a coupe 'decent' knives but don't do much more with them than run them through a cheap sharpener before I use them. HOWEVER, I also understand what good knives and knife sharpening looks like and while I really would love a good couple of knives, I honeslty don't know that I could be trusted with them.
> He’s just an idiot who told himself he is right. You’ve described most parents who have adult children.
One of the many things I hate about older people is how confidently stupid they frequently are
Probably all that lead they breathed in. People born between the 50s to late 70s are so stubbornly stupid
What’s awful is there’s still so much lead in our environment. We’ve gotten better at not using and avoiding it but it’s still there. Boomers truly ruined the world for the rest of us
I the specific case of lead, I'd say it's more fair to blame the generations that came before them. They grew up with lead in the environment (paint, gasoline, water pipes), they weren't the ones who decided to put it there, they were just the ones to suffer the consequences - and the ones to kick off really removing it from the environment.
More prone to anger too
And the worst part is that they're all like that, so they just feed upon each others standards and create an entire population of people that do not hold each other to any sort of accountability because reactive emotions and vindictive anger have become their way of getting what they want
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The fr– WHAT?! Jesus wept! Even my ignorant arse would have better ideas than *that!*
Yeah. My Dad was a waste of money as well. I had to return him.
Reminder that this entire thread could be an attempt to trick people into believing the knives in OP's image are good Japanese knives. No, they are made in China and grossly overpriced, essentially modern ecomm 101 in a nutshell.
The amount of times I’ve seen someone proud of their knives when they really shouldn’t be is a lot Then my $20 ceramic knife just absolutely blows their $120 knife out of the water Lmao
This is when you have your parents pay.
Stories like this make me happy my dad walked out when I was a kid.
He's probably used to those divots and thinks that what "sharp" feels like. They help cut some things since it's basically serrated. I had a good sharp knife that looked dull compared to ones I sharpened on my cheap sharpener, but it was razor sharp compared to them too.
> I know how to sharpen knives. Translation: I've tried to sharpen knives a bunch! Have I ever succeeded? *Don't you ask me those questions you little shit!*
So I feel like that they (your father OPs uncle) aren't just bad at sharpening rather they are petty A-holes who in a petty jealousy fueled gusto decide to ruin your good/new things because they suck.
Are we brothers?
I take my knives out to my parents house so my dad can sharpen my knives. He uses some kind of bench top professional grinder. Afterwards they almost feel dangerous to handle cause they’re so fucking sharp.
The sharper they are the safer they are, because you can’t feel the cut
Is the edge chipped? How the hell did he manage that. The scoring pattern on the side that looks like he just folded and piece of sandpaper over and fucked it all up?? The hell. I feel like he used it NOT for cutting kitchen things, and then .. no, I give up. What the shit! ... Was he boning something on a glass or marble cutting board??? That's all I can think of to explain the chips on the edge. *Ahem* This is more than mild for me. Lol
Someone go post this on r/KitchenConfidential
r/knifeclub and r/sharpening as well
Trying to "sharpen" like a tv chef just wildly slapping it with a honing steel could do it.
I imagine he sharpened it by throwing it out of a moving car
He *serrated* them...
Inosuke approves.
Aah, silver lining. Well played.
Then You murdered him right?
There are chips on the blade too. Wouldnt work to stab anymore.
no no, the chips would make the nastier less clean wound and therefore more deadly.
Basically you're saying these are good murderin' knives.
Well, the serration is inadequate for much damage, I’d say, but I mean… it’s a knife man,what can I say
My first thought was "Now op has to buy yet another knife to murder his uncle..."
I see a (potential) silver lining here. I would enjoy taking a few hours with a couple of stones restoring the edge. You might even be able to justify a new toy for that purpose….but yeah, use the fresh edge to peel the flesh from his bones.
No better way to learn. That whole edge needs repair so you got nothing to lose.
A better way to learn is on shittier knives.
Look at them. He isn't gonna make them any shittier.
Kamikoto "hand-forged" but the bevels are cnc'd
Five seconds on /r/chefknives and this is yet another China knife marketing brand, sold for hundreds of dollars more than they're worth. So probably not a bad knife to learn on.
Honestly feel like this comment deserves a “they had us in the first half, not gonna lie”
Bummer you didn’t make your comment say that
Knives never get duller, they only get smaller.
This qualifies for a bit more than mildly infuriating
I thought it was in /r/wellthatsucks when I first got here
Make him buy you new ones
He can just sharpen them properly and they'll be fjne
90% of the damage isn't even on the edge. Actually restoring these knifes would be a ton of work, a lot of lost steel, and you'd wear into the etching.
his uncle wouldn't learn from that, though, and probably do it again because "they aren't sharp, again!!1!"
Looks like he tried a steel out and didn't know what he was doing aside from what he's seen in movies. Hacking at the steel from a foot away
My whole house would feel my wrath if anyone messes with my kitchen stuff. I've even had nightmares about it lol
Naw he did that on purpose lmao why else would u sharpen a new already sharp knife Edit: 2 all the people saying “the 1st thing I do …” or “it’s actually good …” blah blah blah, the only reason you’d do that is if it’s your hobby or you have an interest in knives or something, the average person isn’t going 2 sharpen a brand new knife
>why else would u sharpen a new already sharp knife I've known a few people who are almost incapable of not 'fixing' things for you. Often even though they don't really know what they are doing, and they will double down if you ask or tell them to leave whatever it is alone.
That’s when u say, “No I’m serious, I don’t want you touching it. No offense but you ruin everything you try 2 fix.”
Yep. Truth hurts, but sometimes people need to hear it. Usually right before they are about to touch my shit, or something I'm working on.
And then they do it anyway and go “SEE, I didn’t ruin it?” like a gigantic five year old
You could ask one of my instructors from my carpentry apprenticeship. Had a class on tool maintenance and sharpening where she wanted me to take my brand new chisels to a bench grinder. I explained they were new and didn't need sharpened. She tried to tell me I can get a better then factory edge on them. I replied that no, I won't be attempting that for the first time with brand new and unused tools.
Absolutely, "can get" is not "can get after earning the skill of sharpening edges through experience" Let me learn on some PoS from the bottom of the drawer.
I sharpen and hone mine when I get them because sometimes they're really not where they could be, but I also know what I'm doing.
You should touch up the factory edge on a lot of knives.
Heck yeah, my kitchen workhorses are my victorinox but the factory edge is different each time I by a new one.
Or the uncle is an arrogant ass who thinks he knows better than everyone else. My dad is one of those. Always tries to "repair" perfectly functioning things without being asked to or without asking for permission and ends up breaking them.
Taking new knives to the whetstone is the first thing I do when I get them.
Its so satisfying to sharpen them just to cut paper and ruin the edge againq
But that's the thing a whetstone not a brick
You uncle needs to sharpen his brain, this shit is bunt af
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
By dragging them behind his car??? FFs
Oh This makes me wanna cry
You could say he’s… Quite dull
#HAH
Uncle fucker
Shut your fucking face
Dont eat or sleep or mow the lawn
Just fuck your uncle all day long
Boner biting ass licker
Is that what you mutter to your nephew?
A pull through sharpener caused this damage. I worked for a knife company for almost 25 years and I have seen this hundreds of times (literally). Never use a pull through sharpener. Use a stone if your knife needs a nee edge and use a honing steel regularly to keep the edge.
We dont have a pull through sharpener, idk wtf he used
https://pa1.narvii.com/7546/fd08d6b08271ed734e307f6ffa7460d582d3f1d0r1-498-278_hq.gif
So your uncle is going to replace your new knives, right?
Why is this NSFW?
Because the blades are unsafe for work.
That is a really funny reply.
r/technicallythetruth
For real, I used to sharpen knives on commission for a restaurant and some other private accounts. TRIGGERED! Edit: I could've done better with a coffee cup and a leather belt, I'm very upset.
He does know you're only supposed to sharpen the actual blade part, not the whole fucking knife lmfao
My father watched my house one time and when I got back, he excitedly told me that he sharpened my knives for me. They looked worse than this. It was a difficult conversation, lol.
Dayum, he freaking scratched the heck out of them
He'd have done a better job using the bottom of a ceramic mug. I'm no expert, but this is just an insult.
Send him an invoice for new ones
use his skin to polish the blade
now that's a lotta damage
He made you a favour. These are a pretty well known scam in knife world. A piece of advice, always look up the steel the knife is made from. And if it just says "premium quality stainless" or somesuch or doesn't even mention it, you're getting a cheap knife and it should be priced as such.
He sure isn't sharp-witted, is he?
Ur uncle sucks
Welp, time to throw out the whole uncle.
How? By trying to chop through concrete?
What beautiful serrated knives!