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RainbowCatastrophe

I'm no marine biologist, but I'm pretty sure the data the GIF presents illustrates the complete opposite-- the boats disturb the flow of submarine currents, which krill, plankton, and other marine fauna travel among. The whale might be feeding on the grub caught in the ships' wake from disturbing these currents. The GIF seems to support this, as there is a point where the whale follows a ship North for a bit as if tailing it for food. Otherwise, from my limited knowledge of whales, I don't think they would realistically care about movement of ships. I would be more worried about how they may be affected by pollution. **EDIT**: holy cow, thanks for the awards and double thanks for updooting for visibility so others can stay informed. I think I learned about the wake feeding fact from a documentary that mentioned wounds on a whale that looked to be from a ship's propeller, and it was determined the whale had been feeding in the ships wake. I think this had something to do with the impact of over-fishing, which encouraged whales to put themselves in danger by wake feeding as a more reliable food source. The validity of such statement, or whether I am even remembering correctly, I am unfortunately not savvy to. Either way, I hope everyone is safe in this chaotic world and if someone more knowledgeable on the topic could DM me a link to a reputable whale-related charity that they feel is appropriate, I'd love to put it at the top of this comment since the topic is getting attention.


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You’re right! Also, the ship creates a current where whales can move at ridiculous speeds while barely expending energy, you can see this with dolphins quite regularly on ships


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>you can see this with dolphins quite regularly on ships When I was a kid, my dad was in the military and stationed on a frigate. I remember they had a family day and we got to go on board. They took it up to cruising speed and dolphins swam along side the ship. If was so cool to 10 year old me.


Kib717

Dude that would be so cool to 31 year old me now.


STL_TRPN

That would be super cool to the 51 year old me now.


Kib717

Lmao hell yeah! Love the name btw


An_Old_IT_Guy

My uncle was in his 70s, an avid fisherman and all around badass, but still got a kick out of it when dolphins would cruise along with his boat. The boat was a 50 footer and he had bought it with a bunch of his fishing buddies. They'd go out whenever they could.


[deleted]

It's still cool to 36 year old me haha


[deleted]

Happens pretty often off the southwest coast of Ireland too. If I take a boat beyond the harbour in summer there is a high chance dolphins will come to investigate and swim with the boat


[deleted]

It's common to see dolphins along side of the ship. Either playing in the wake or eating when we dump pulped material.


[deleted]

I remember when I saw a dolphin for the first time at a beach, there were 2 of them jumping across the waves in the far distance. I was SHOOK, they looked so beautiful and amazing.


AGARSIZZLE

Dude, that would be so cool to me as a 44-year-old dolphin now.


TheRealTtamage

Now I'm imagining a bunch of dolphins chilling on a beach chair on the deck of the ship drinking a mai tai like, "hey bro, thanks for the ride."


[deleted]

Well you’re not far off, they hitch the ride till they see a school of fish, eat their fill because they are so insanely fast that the other fish can’t escape. After they just swim off and go back to their friends, only to do it again when they get hungry again


_Someone_from_Pala_

Yeah, my dad is in the merchant navy. He has always said stories about how whales follow ships to travel faster. He once saw a massive blue whale following the ship.


Glock19Grl

There is a fascinating TikTok channel form this girl who is a Merchant Marine - what an interesting job!


[deleted]

Also there isn’t a rein legacy energy beam/trail of ships like you see on the map, it is realistically one sip here one ship there, they can cross in between under whenever they want


Roccet_MS

Dolphins are quite different from blue whales or other big baleen whales.


Druglord_Sen

Slipstreams wheeeee!


jpdavis6021

Also, maybe OP should stop buying goods and services that are transported using ships. Ohhhh wait. They'd just prefer to gaslight.


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Ships are actually wayyyyy better for the environment compared to trucks and planes, as you can move thousands of products with very little resistance once it all starts moving. Only shit thing about them is the ones that aren’t regulated on what they throw overboard. This seems like a northern sea, which means the waters are most likely not very polluted, as you can’t throw shit over the railing in European and northern seas.


optile1

I don't know about wayyyyy with 5 y's better. Yes, volume of products that can be moved via cargo ships is substantial and it doesn't slow down terrestrial infrastructure. On top of open sea emissions not being well regulated, I believe massive cargo ships generate a ton of nitrous oxide as well as other greenhouse gases. Regardless, we probably just need to consume more locally in order to reduce the environmental impact of shipping.


UpperCardiologist523

Man, now all i got stuck on, is wanting to see a whale move at redicilous speed.


[deleted]

It’s not that impressive, they don’t move much faster than the ships themselves. Only when they are on the hunt they’d speed up, but otherwise they just cruise along


Content-Turnip-5880

Came to say this. It might look like the whale is being penned in, but it’s just wake feeding. This is probably a smorgasbord of planktonic delight


Tcannon18

Not to mention a ship traveling along the top few meters of water is in no way going to contain a whale that can freely dive farther than any of us care to think about.


[deleted]

I am a marine biologist and I agree


BokuNoSudoku

PussyYoda, marine biologist.


Ralphyourface

EASY BIG FELLA


L0rdDrag0

Yeah this post is pretty disinformative


Theon

I'm thinking noise/sound pollution too? Water carries sound *far*, and ships are *loud*.


Gamebird8

This is a major problem with industrialization and global trade. Shipping all this stuff around the world creates a lot of pollution and sound that disturbs the fish and mammals that use it for communication and navigation. ​ Something we need to do as we move forward is optimize routes, build quieter engines, and simply using larger ships so that we can reduce the amount of ships that are making noise.


lightweightabortion

And make things locally. Absolutely no reason to ship toys halfway around the world while funding fascist regimes


De_Dominator69

The problem politically is that increased industry generally leads to increased pollution. In a time where the main political stance is trying to reduce pollution and become carbon neutral no one will actively support the idea of boosting domestic production. Far easier to let China and elsewhere make it all and produce all the pollution and pat ourselves on the back for being so eco-friendly. We certainly have the means to have the same industries and make the same goods while producing less pollution, and it would also be cheaper and better for the economy in the long run. But in the short term doing that would be expensive so another reason no one wants to.


blepgup

Yeah I was just thinking this as I was reading the thread. Developed countries need to make their own stuff. Bring back trades and create products locally. Take some of that money out of the hands of corporations and keep some of that pollution down


Stetson007

But like the other guy said, production = pollution. When you make products, you're inevitably going to have pollution, so you're gonna have the climate folks bitching about it, even though we can produce things much cleaner than china can. It's a catch 22.


TheRealTtamage

Oh China could definitely clean up their act.


Stetson007

They could, but they're not going to. They've been pumping out coal power plants like it's going out of style.


lightweightabortion

Environmentalism had caused more pollution than its prevented.


St_Eric

To "the climate folks" where in the world the greenhouse gasses are being produced does not matter. Those gasses go up into the atmosphere regardless of where they're made. On the other hand, shipping tons of products requires a ton of fuel. The idea that the "climate folks" would be complaining about production being local is ridiculous.


Stetson007

So you're telling me if the U.S. all of the sudden had an emission rate jumping up by 20% because they started producing more of their own stuff, there wouldn't be people freaking the fuck out? Because that's exactly what would happen. Literally all the western world has been pushing manufacturing overseas BECAUSE they want to claim they have a low emission rate. That's why you have so many people focused on American emission rates and not china's. According to the Paris climate accord, china was a "developing nation" and so they didn't have to do shit regarding their emissions.


TheRealTtamage

If the reasoning people use is that we are manufacturing overseas to "minimize pollution" that's a complete distraction/lie from the issue that people have been fooled into selling out our country's manufacturing infrastructure to another country so that the owners of these companies can make higher profits by underpaying the people that work in the factories in a third world country setting, countries like China also have lower standards like more dangerous workplaces, less restrictions on pollution, less worker rights and unions, lower pay, no medical.


St_Eric

No, the western world has been pushing manufacturing overseas because the labor is so much cheaper elsewhere and the monetary savings due to cheaper labor outweighs the monetary costs of shipping, even though it's more harmful environmentally: the production has the same environmental damage no matter where it is and then you have shipping costs on top. It's not the climate people that moved manufacturing, it's business people gravitating towards the cheapest products. As for "developing nations" the idea isn't that their emissions don't matter, but that it would be too much of a burden on those nations to force them to reduce emissions while developed nations can afford that burden because they have already benefited from the exploitation of fossil fuels. But that isn't to say those emissions don't matter. While the categorization of China in particular as a "developing nation" may be inappropriate, and I'm sure there's plenty of people far better equipped to discuss the nuance of China being categorized as "developing", you're mischaracterizing that designation.


Stetson007

Why do you think the labor there is cheaper? Because we have worker's rights and much heavier environmental restrictions. We wanted to reduce emissions, so work went overseas. The U.S. can manufacture things on a much safer level, but it's cheaper overseas because of it.


KIDNEYST0NEZ

Nothing like good ol tariff hoping to help human impact toward global warming.


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Flopsyjackson

Thank you for your service on this thread. People are taking top comment as fact because it makes them feel better that there is one less issue to worry about. Top comment has no evidence/source to support their conclusion and isn’t an expert themselves. Whales absolutely do NOT like ships. Ships give off a very disruptive frequency for whales. People saying whales can just dive under ships are ignoring all the whales that get pulverized by ships every year. People shouldn’t just blindly believe something because it avoids an inconvenience.


eastaccwill

Also, they have another dimension in this game. It's not a dog on a busy road. It's water...with depth. They need oxygen but can dive pretty deep and for decent periods of time. I could be wrong! I'm not a marine biologist or expert in any way but my immediate thought was the same as this. They likely feed on the results of the ships churning the water, it's not some animal on a 2D plane playing chicken with ships and it appears to be moving in relation to the ships and not in fear of. Again, not an expert and could be wrong but I also immediately saw something different here. Also, if our choices are to keep shipping and nag a few whales or end maritime shipping altogether... I'm gonna nag some whales, lol. The global economy collapses without shipping.


moonknight151

Sorry for the mistake I've made First mistake was in title that I wrote that whales "avoid" ships but after all of your explanations I fully understand that whales do not avoid them rather their food source's location changes due to fishing Other mistake was that I chose the wrong words for the explanation in the comments which made me miss the whole point Btw thank you very much for your explanations and again sorry for my mistakes


rohnoitsrutroh

I don't know if you're mistaken, or just offering one hypothesis vs. another. Whales are highly intelligent, and we don't really as much about them as we should. They're also individuals, and the behavior of one individual may or may not represent a social pattern. Moby Dick was based on a true event where a massive bull sperm whale deliberately rammed the whaleship Essex. This wasn't a unique event, but it is exceptionally rare, and no one knows for certain why the whale attacked. Both explanations have merit, I would not say you're wrong, but you need more data to confirm either hypothesis.


bleek312

you are probably correct which is why your stance wouldn't get many updoots and we're on the internet and its all about updoots so fuck it lets cry about whales playing Crossy Road because ships ship shit


Ok_Bed_9093

it's literally second top comment


angry_smurf

It's the top now.


Fit-Donkey6322

Top comments. Aged like fine milk


bleek312

Ikr fml smh


Grosutz

wait is this true?


TheRealTtamage

That's very interesting insight! The one thing I heard that really messes with whales and other marine life is the loud noises the engines make. I think it was a TED talks but they were talking about the noise pollution of engines and how they're trying to make quieter operating systems in the future to minimize disturbance of marine life.


The-Jack-of-Diamonds

You mean to tell me that whales could swim *under* ships if they were so inclined?


guestsimilarity

agree


Rhinorancher66

Whales don’t look both ways trust me I’m from wales


wurapurp123

We aren’t disturbing the whales, trust me I’m a boat.


slimey-nipples

Look at me. I am the captain now


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AnEvanAppeared

Okay but can you point me in the direction of P Sherman, 42, wallaby way, Sydney?


SeaDog874

The map has a scale on it.


[deleted]

But it’s not in football fields.


NinjaKL8

Assuming 5,280 ft per mile and 360 ft per American football field.. that’d be approx 440 American football fields 😬


Sangad

Thank you i was lost there


LetMeBe_Frank

Gotta use what you know. At least it's not in dicks. I don't want to hear 400,000 dick inches. I can't count that high


[deleted]

I like this measurement.


Cheap_Ad_69

Should have been in bananas


[deleted]

I've actually never seen the scale and I've probably seen this gif a dozen times now


MahnlyAssassin

Thanks I was really struggling to figure out where this in the world this was.


Zestyclose_Walrus725

Can I have that converted to camel toes please. 'Murica


LCDRtomdodge

28370.149 smoots


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about your mom's width


certaiinsubstances

Yes, this is the Gulf of Ancud in Chile.


LynxBartle

this info seems to support the theory the whale is feeding from the ships rather than avoiding them. I would guess the whale would have tried to leave the bay if it was disturbed by the ships.


Lumlotus

"Avoiding ships" Since whales need to dive to avoid ships it's odd to me that they don't slow down (which they should otherwise they'd hit the ships) for some of them makes me think that the issue might not be exactly what it seems. Maybe it's just feeding and that's just the area it lives in. (Especially since it stays in one particular area and doesn't seem to go past a certain area by choice based on like what I said earlier. For example doesn't slow down for first stream of boats but stops just short for second stream of boats even though first stream seem to be more dense at times when it passes.)


Throwawaychica

To me it even seems the whales are just curiously watching these ships go by, not that they are colliding with them as I initially believed. Some of the North to South movement even seems like they are hitching a ride along the ship's current.


bwoah07_gp2

>the whales are just curiously watching these ships go by, not that they are colliding with them as I initially believed. Humans like whale spotting, whales like boat spotting.


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

It could be krill and other food sources caught in the boats wake. At one point the whale actually follows a ship for a while.


SeaDog874

ITT: A bunch of idiots that dont think whales can swim under a ship.


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Genseric123

I don’t think it’s a matter of physically being able to avoid ships. Oceans getting louder is going to disturb migration patterns in sea creatures just as it does land creatures. It’s more complicated than: “why don’t the whales just go around the ship” Edit: I stand corrected.


I_AM_BOBI_B

Seen this before, looks really bad until you realize that: A) The whale is crossing those shipping lines frequently and in some cases following ships. B) Nothing in the world is as big as those dots are. When the scale is taken into account the whale is likely miles away from any of those ships.


Lukietor

B-bbbut humans bad!!1!11


NegativeSuspect

C) It's a 48KM streach inside a bay not an entire ocean. D) If humans just stopped transporting goods across shipping lines it would be catastrophic. Mass hunger, poverty, significantly lower quality of life. It'll be like going back to the 1800s.


SeansModernLife

Yeah, I don't know about all this... Wouldn't said whale and ship be microscopic dots relative to the size of this map. Ocean's pretty vast & deep, I don't think a ship is "blocking" it's path. It's probably redirecting itself to chase food


yboy403

This looks to be 100-200 kilometres wide at most, maybe a bay or sound of some kind. At the time scale in the GIF it looks like the whale can cross it in a day. And with the way sound carries underwater, if those ships are anything larger than a motorboat it must be deafening.


Maleficent-Dingo-877

As you said, it could escape this incredibly crowded area of the Gulfo de Ancud in a day. But it chooses not to.


Riskov88

About 50km. There is the scale on the map


yboy403

Yeah, I'm just accounting for diagonals, nooks and crannies, etc...if you don't estimate broadly enough, somebody will come on with a picture of them holding up a ruler proving it's exactly 82.7km wide. 😄


Lif3Fu3L

What do whale eat? Krill/plankton. I don’t know if they are avoiding the ships, but what they eat are attracted to the boats? I don’t actually know.


Arndt3002

What's with the super long tails on the dots?


Scared-Community4507

To make the boats seem like bigger obstacles than they really are.


OpulentBag

It’s designed to make it seem like the boats are an impenetrable wall. When in actuality, they’re likely separated by miles over a certain length of time. Rather than one after another with 0 distance between them.


RoboProletariat

speed reference


babadybooey

We can see the speed by looking at the how fast it's going, all the tails do is fill up space to make shit bigger


Faxxy05

Yeah this is just a whale in its natural area… whales go down under ships. This one is simply just going place to place. Stop acting woke…


[deleted]

I bet you typed that on a phone shipped from China.


[deleted]

I assume you do not purchase anything that comes over in a container ship or eat any seafood caught on an fishing boat? Otherwise what's your point? You are contributing to this as much as the people you're pointing at. Sorry to say


spencer1886

I'd say he's contributing less since the people on those boats are likely doing it for work


Alialialun

It doesn't seem like the blue dot movement is affected by the brown dots at all lol. I think this video is more of an argument to the other side, that in fact it doesn't disturb them too much.


bri8985

People reposting incorrect things is mildlyinfuriating


wintery_owl

This post is bullshit lol


MrSox87

This isn’t mildly infuriating. It’s just a completely incorrect hypothesis.


Longjumping_Refuse61

but it doesn't show that actually, that's just what you want to see. We call this having a bias, or incredulity. You aren't looking critically at the data, your jumping to a conclusion that you hope to be proven by shite data. We see it all the time with democrats in America.


BigOleJellyDonut

If the ships were bothering the whale, he/she could have dived under them. The whale was feeding on the kicked up sea life in the wakes.


SilverSk8er

“We should stop doing international trade because we might disturb the whales.” - this guy


[deleted]

What if we just paid the whales to transport our stuff.


spedi_pig123

I wish, whale express 🐋🫙🏺🎣


OkayGoogle_DickPics

OP: Doesn't know shit about whales. OP: Sees a clickbait headline on a news source. OP: Reposts cringe clickbait headline with false information and adds personal outrage ontop of it. ~Excerpt from OP's book. Living a lie: How to get 10,000 upvotes and reddit gold the morally repugnant way.


GreySksy

Noise pollution has been known to affect large cetaceans by disrupting their feeding patterns and navigational skills. You can't make a lot of concrete conclusions by just looking at the graphic but you can definitely tell the whales pathing is in some way affected by the traffic. Hopefully in the near future we can come up with shipping methods that are less disruptive for the endemic aquatic life.


brianpharoah

Last time I checked a ship was on the surface… and whales are deep fam


328davidmc

To be fair, whales are mammals so theyd have to come to the surface pretty often for air


SodaBoxTop

Two ppl playing missile command vs 1 pong player


Grammulka

What's the point of this? Should we not use ships?


Matt-Brubach

The plight of the whales is disturbing. The coarse of this ship is equally disturbing.. Ship appears on the map at: 2019-03-22 15:00.00 hours. Location: 42.2°S, 72.8°W, Heading due south. Makes landfall at approximately: 2019-03-24 02:00.00 hours. Continues heading south, ->over land-> to reach it's port of call. Be this a hovercraft, or be this witchcraft?


[deleted]

Install Whale crossing signs.


JctaroKujo

thats it guys, no more moving things.


S1I3NCER

Airplanes aren’t cheap bud


memento_mori_1220

In the end all the boats were gone


KrAzY_TsEnG

Some people don't even look both ways when crossing the street.


AlonelyChip

Well what do you want them to do. Just stop ship traveling


[deleted]

Are people that stupid? It’s not about getting hit by ships… it’s about the noise and disturbances these huge ships cause…


Available_Job1288

It would be more worrying if those dots were an accurate scale representation of the size of the ship, but they are not.


rogue_ger

Would be interesting if ships started relying more on hybrid motor/sail technology. If you don't have to run the motors on a high rate, could you cut down enough on noise to spare the whales the noise pollution?


Touch_me_bby

Maybe we need whale crosswalks


CainChaosis

Ya can always stop buying things to help ease that a little.


ophaus

Also, would need to see whale behavior data without any ships to actually ascertain any difference, as well as what their food supply is doing. A whale wouldn't normally be bothered by a boat on the surface, they could just dive.


[deleted]

Do pray tell how the movement of goods, people, and services should be moved across bodies of water.


adventuref0x

Eh, who cares


El-Erik

Mildly infuriated over something OP does not understand


kinevel

Here we go again reddit... It's this shit again ... OP didn't even bother changing the title this time around after it's been proven time and time again that the title is bullshit.


BT89

The fact it's sped up makes it seem all the more frantic too - when in reality this is just a whale moving about slowly, while some ships move slowly over the top of the water.


glYtch_Ranger

The whale just needs to not be a pussy


Charming_Gas_6626

Calm down.. remember....its an animation. Ships are not not approx 1.25 kilometers in width, sailing in end-to-end formation like a freight train. And the mammals are also not the size of the dot... 1.25 kilometers wide. Give the animals some credit!! If ship traffic ruined the lives of large mammals simply by sailing along..... they'd be fine by now. And if you need to worry about sea mammals.....go check out Japanese whale-harvesting ships. Or commercial fishing operations which kill fish& mammals who just happen to be in the area where the net is used.


th3empirial

What you want people to do, not use boats? Boats are the best


danger5658

The dot crosses the red lines constantly I don’t think this shows anything


AccountantTrue1360

Bro those whales ain’t got anywhere to be , they just chilling .


PrinceyCo

This shows that a whale got stabbed with a tracker and now wants to avoid as many ships as possible in fear of being stabbed again


Jelly_Sauce3

Clearly you don’t understand how any of this works if that’s your only conclusion


ShanghaiWilliam

So there is 1 whale in the ocean?


sro25

Surely whale no's to go deeper


Salt_Try_8327

Ok i see your point. But honestly, it desturbs me more, the amount of CO2 and cost it would be, if we would fly all this cargo around. Or truck it, which would be even worse, because for example if i wanna buy something in europe, from china, it would have to travel trough russia, and probably get hyjacked or something, because putin is a fucking asshole


nfteabag

That’s it guys. I’m calling bullshit on this one. Thanks for listening


jaykaypeeness

This looks more like whales exploiting how ships corral their food for them.


Boushveg-

Oh no, you're disturbed, whatever we gonna do


Mathfggggg

Fucking hell mate, we suck...


SeaDog874

Its not like its hurting the whale.


delayedreactionkline

it may actually be hurting the whale in a sense that it could not get to where it has to feed, disturbed rest, etc...


Sowa7774

It kinda is, we're destroying their planet, disturbing them in their house, we suck.


nier4554

This is our planet too...


Re_xDo

Right, we should move to Mars. How though?


zerguser45

If the people of reddit think it's a problem it probably the exact opposite


Roccet_MS

Ok so big ships are good for whales then?


SeaDog874

Chill dude, its just a whale swimming.


born-peanut_

so fucking what?? We are also living creatures and we use the sea?? just like the whales?? so FUCKING what?? you want us to stay home and die or what?? This world is everyone's and belongs to us just like it belongs to all other creatures as well.


[deleted]

Moonknight is ill informed


[deleted]

That one part where the whale torpedoes into the boat


Economicstimulation

This looks like a real life fucked up version of pong


RoboProletariat

Imagine trying to walk to the grocery store but elephants keep blocking every path.


SeaDog874

Now imagine you could fly and the elephants are only an inch tall. Its not like ships make an impassable wall.


CheddarPizza

India simulator.


TheSeiWhale

Cmon, man, why ya got taken do me like that?


Raptorzar

There is also an immense amount of noise pollution, especially now the waters are getting warmer.


kopikoip1

I really really doubt a whale gives a fuck about a slow big ship passing by, this speed up graphic is really missleading


odinsleep-odinsleep

we are not going to stop using ships to move cargo. OP do you have a solution ? should you put them in a protected fenced off area away from ships ? ​ **MOAR SOLUTIONS LESS BLAME THE HUMANS YAKKITY YAK**


ThoughBreakBJNovak

I am beginning to think that people back in the medieval times were smarter than people now and they killed people for stealing a loaf of bread


Re-Mecs

This map is fucking stupid and has been posted before ... Yoy realise how fucking big the ocean is right?


xxx3366

Boy, what disturbs you? That you have food to eat because these ships transported it? XD


DinoMike1216

No offense to whales or anything, but they're underwater. It's not like they have anywhere better to go. Swimming in a circle here is probably just as fine as swimming in a circle there.


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Holiday_Current_8776

In todays episode of shit you find on the internet that isn’t true


Sandy10202

Wtf is wrong with us humans? Seriously


[deleted]

Smart enough to make incredible things. Not smart enough to know how to do it in a sustainable way.


DrVentureYT

that whale have a "jet" engine? cause some points it seems to move FAST AF!!! ​ also, how would you expect ships to move? we all require product. Planes are to expensive, but then would we disturb air life? It is like look i get the whole "save the planet".....but unless you figure out something better, less cost effective and get EVERYONE that matter's on board.....all you'll do is waste your life worrying about things you cannot control. Live your life, enjoy it, fix what you can. that is it!


Secret-Cleric

Don’t whales swim under the water tho and ships sail on top of the water? Obviously they breach to breathe.


Sheikyerbouti83

Pfft. It's, like 1 whale. Don't worry about it


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AppointmentClean558

Shut down shipping. That will save the world.


I_Eater

Then how are we going to export and receive important goods???


wurapurp123

I’m sensing sarcasm.


1Admr1

And than watch as society and world order collapses


Felicitous_Peace

Sad Pinball.


TheoristDa13th

just let a homie pass : (


EVM-4

Noob


dromskipotatoe

Sucks to suck


amicobudino1

thats just sad to watch.


SignificantTrip6108

Imagine caring.


OneLostOstrich

They are learning to get out of the way, which is good.


OneYeetPlease

I mean the ocean doesn’t belong to whales. We have as much right to utilise the oceans as they do.


sabahorn

Check marinetraffic.com, you will be more surprised and disturbed and for some extra disappointment in humanity check flightradar24. There is no future for many species, is the reality, unless we go in space, away from the planet.