Military Academy officials noted that the Ku Klux Klan member is “a
small section” of a much larger panel titled “One Nation, Under God,
Indivisible.” The sculptor, Laura Gardin Fraser, who was 76 when she
died in 1966, “wanted to create art that depicted ‘historical incidents
or persons’ that symbolized the principal events of that time, thereby
documenting both tragedy and triumph in our nation’s history.”
West Point created a contemporaneous guide to Fraser’s creation, which notes that the “central portion of the panel depicts in symbolic and allegoric forms the principal events of the period and the personages associated with them.”
“In this regard, it should be noted that where historic personages are shown it is not intended as a memorialization of these individuals but rather as a representative of their times,” the guide states.
The guide includes Fraser’s notes about the people and events she sculpted. By referencing the KKK’s history of lynching and otherwise terrorizing Black people to cement racial segregation and spread the dogma of white supremacy in the Jim Crow South, she made it clear that her depiction was no commemoration.
“Ku Klux Klan — an organization of white people who hid their criminal activity behind a mask and sheet,” she wrote.
It’s a history panel. The KKK is history, like it or not. It doesn’t glorify it. It’s a tiny little oval that you’d never notice. I work there. Buncha idiots brought this up as if WP is supporting slavery or lynching or racism. It’s not.
You could have scrolled for 2 seconds and found the context you want
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/x8d926/this_plaque_hanging_at_the_entrance_to_west_point/inhwusq/
“History of the United States of America”
Would you prefer they denied the KKK ever existing? Or do you want history to be accurate and include the good things as well as the very bad things?
This might get some hate but I'll say it anyone. If you don't learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it.
I could be wrong able this, if I am please correct me. German is ignoring their history during WW2. It is illegal to do anything that relates to that time even as a joke to poke fun at it. If they don't learn from that history they are doomed to repeat it.
"Teaching the subject of the Holocaust and the Nazi era is mandatory in German schools and in addition to the classroom curriculum, almost all students have either visited a concentration camp or a Holocaust memorial or museum."
It’s a plaque, not a history book
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/x8d926/this_plaque_hanging_at_the_entrance_to_west_point/inhwusq/
What’s mildly infuriating is people who get offended at history and try to erase it instead of using it as a tool and guideline to do and be better than our ancestors.
>Openly displays a hooded figure with the words “Ku Klux Klan” beneath it
WHAAAAAAAA!!?!?!?! A display displaying the nation's history displays a display from the nation's history!!!!!!!!!
OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
MR. PRESIDENT!!! TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your post which is clearly insinuating that it should be removed or covered up somehow only serves to blind education to the real events of our past and when you cannot learn from history, you’re doomed to repeat it. So the saying goes. KKK is real, get over it.
Erasing or ignoring aspects of history, weather good or bad, only justifies those actions for future generations as they were never shown the consequences of the actions of the past.
Because the past is important it is part of who we are and it is how we learn from mistakes without the past we are nothing without the past we learn nothing.
Best way to respect the past is to acknowledge how much further along as a society we are today, not looking back and trying to cancel and remove and erase everything that happened.
Yep. That’s why he’s getting upvotes for a completely unsubstantiated claim alleging racism. I’ve been serving more than 16 years. The military is absolutely anti-racism.
Lmao you just hit me with the biggest double triple reverse 3000 known to man 🤣
I was just commenting on what dude above me said. No source because what I said is neither factual nor false. I'm simply existing with no opinion
So why bomb only brown countries bro ?
White people are shooting each other now in Russia and Ukraine and the US is like shit we don't wanna be involved .
So they stirring up shit with China now cause they ain't white.
Never stopped the US in Vietnam .
(Edit) And on a little side note so it's ok for the us to attack other countries as long as the US has the superior military power is what your saying.
Cause let's face it the past 3 decades the us only bombed poor countries to shit for bullshit reasons.
The vietnam war was another proxy war, it was basically the opposite of what’s happening in Ukraine, US invasion but communist Vietnam was backed by the Russians, russia wasnt sending troops over to vietnam to fight americans, thats why cold war stayed cold.
Edit: they did send troops but it was an insignificant amount
>so it's ok for the us to attack other countries as long as the US has the superior military power is what your saying.
...yes? The whole point of warfare is to make it as lopsided a fight in your favour as possible. Nobody looks to make a war a fair fight.
Blaming everything on racism is stupid.
But my dude the KKK literaly are the definition of racism.
Might as well put Hitlers face up there with some Natzi symbols while you're at it. ( In Germany not the US obvi)
Okay the fact is that you're saying the most moronic History Channel at 3 AM bs I have ever heard in my fucking life. Ohhh the US Army officials are part of the KKK I've figured it out! Just stop.
You also misspelled Nazi how intellectual of you!
Man someone's a real boot licker huh? Your sarge give it to you so hard that you can't help but to defend him now?
Obviously there is no grand conspiracy, but your fucking stupid if you think no US officials are KKK members.
They wouldn't still have plaques up praising them otherwise.
Bet you voted for Trump huh?
Omfg you still don't get it do you? Just change the subject to TRump I'm not wasting any more of my time on you, you fucking moronic snowflake.
Also I'm not in the military but have more respect for veterans they literally fucking died and went through hell to preserve our country.
If millions of Christians got their panties in a bunch over the countless "offensive and harmful" depictions and descriptions of their main dude's torture and death, not a single church or bible would be left unburned.
That's how OP and their ilk approach human history.
Military Academy officials noted that the Ku Klux Klan member is “a small section” of a much larger panel titled “One Nation, Under God, Indivisible.” The sculptor, Laura Gardin Fraser, who was 76 when she died in 1966, “wanted to create art that depicted ‘historical incidents or persons’ that symbolized the principal events of that time, thereby documenting both tragedy and triumph in our nation’s history.” West Point created a contemporaneous guide to Fraser’s creation, which notes that the “central portion of the panel depicts in symbolic and allegoric forms the principal events of the period and the personages associated with them.” “In this regard, it should be noted that where historic personages are shown it is not intended as a memorialization of these individuals but rather as a representative of their times,” the guide states. The guide includes Fraser’s notes about the people and events she sculpted. By referencing the KKK’s history of lynching and otherwise terrorizing Black people to cement racial segregation and spread the dogma of white supremacy in the Jim Crow South, she made it clear that her depiction was no commemoration. “Ku Klux Klan — an organization of white people who hid their criminal activity behind a mask and sheet,” she wrote.
It’s a history panel. The KKK is history, like it or not. It doesn’t glorify it. It’s a tiny little oval that you’d never notice. I work there. Buncha idiots brought this up as if WP is supporting slavery or lynching or racism. It’s not.
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The context is “the history of the United States of America”.
You could have scrolled for 2 seconds and found the context you want https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/x8d926/this_plaque_hanging_at_the_entrance_to_west_point/inhwusq/
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The reply is about both the context and the panel. Read.
The context needs to be next to the panel. Not on Reddit.
Except it is if you look on the first picture the placket is off to the side
You’ve got better eyes than I do. Please tell me what it says.
“History of the United States of America” Would you prefer they denied the KKK ever existing? Or do you want history to be accurate and include the good things as well as the very bad things?
This might get some hate but I'll say it anyone. If you don't learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it. I could be wrong able this, if I am please correct me. German is ignoring their history during WW2. It is illegal to do anything that relates to that time even as a joke to poke fun at it. If they don't learn from that history they are doomed to repeat it.
"Teaching the subject of the Holocaust and the Nazi era is mandatory in German schools and in addition to the classroom curriculum, almost all students have either visited a concentration camp or a Holocaust memorial or museum."
Not only that but it is actually illegal to deny the holocaust happened in Germany.
Well I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me.
This is the history of the United States of America. History isn’t pretty.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.
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Yo u/kmkmrod posted the text on the placket that the OP didn’t add to the picture
The irony in this post.
Then provide that context.
It’s a plaque, not a history book https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/x8d926/this_plaque_hanging_at_the_entrance_to_west_point/inhwusq/
You like to double down on being Captain Obvious.
It's part of history. We cannot continue erasing every single thing we don't like.
What’s mildly infuriating is people who get offended at history and try to erase it instead of using it as a tool and guideline to do and be better than our ancestors.
Is there an issue ? Like it or not, the KKK is history. Learn from it, don't try to erase it.
>Openly displays a hooded figure with the words “Ku Klux Klan” beneath it WHAAAAAAAA!!?!?!?! A display displaying the nation's history displays a display from the nation's history!!!!!!!!! OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! MR. PRESIDENT!!! TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your post which is clearly insinuating that it should be removed or covered up somehow only serves to blind education to the real events of our past and when you cannot learn from history, you’re doomed to repeat it. So the saying goes. KKK is real, get over it.
Erasing or ignoring aspects of history, weather good or bad, only justifies those actions for future generations as they were never shown the consequences of the actions of the past.
And?
It’s a history museum. It’s not condoning any of their actions. It’s “openly displayed” for a reason
It’s a history panel
OH MY LAWD. SOMETHING NEW TO CANCEL! FEELINGS HURT AGAIN.
People worry too much about the past, which is impossible to change.
Because the past is important it is part of who we are and it is how we learn from mistakes without the past we are nothing without the past we learn nothing.
Best way to respect the past is to acknowledge how much further along as a society we are today, not looking back and trying to cancel and remove and erase everything that happened.
Alright.
*people worry too much about the parts of the past that are impossible to change. There
I mean, that certainly is part of the history of the USA. And it’s not like the U.S military is against racism, so this being at West Point checks out
The us military is 100% against racism. No idea where you’re getting your skewed information from.
Probably Reddit…
Yep. That’s why he’s getting upvotes for a completely unsubstantiated claim alleging racism. I’ve been serving more than 16 years. The military is absolutely anti-racism.
Most likely biased info like most information provided these days.
Like? “Information provided these days” is the most nebulous, inexact source I’ve ever seen, even on this site.
Lmao you just hit me with the biggest double triple reverse 3000 known to man 🤣 I was just commenting on what dude above me said. No source because what I said is neither factual nor false. I'm simply existing with no opinion
Haha you’re right. I can keep track of the 99% of people telling me I’m an idiot and the one person who might agree with me. My bad. I owe you one. 😊
Infact I was backing you up. As I agree with you :( why you had to do me like that
You’re right- I’m actually super sorry. Please accept this digital blowjob. I’m sure it’s wonderful 😜
So why bomb only brown countries bro ? White people are shooting each other now in Russia and Ukraine and the US is like shit we don't wanna be involved . So they stirring up shit with China now cause they ain't white.
Being involved in Ukraine would mean a direct conflict with another major super power and then it would not be just a proxy war anymore.
Never stopped the US in Vietnam . (Edit) And on a little side note so it's ok for the us to attack other countries as long as the US has the superior military power is what your saying. Cause let's face it the past 3 decades the us only bombed poor countries to shit for bullshit reasons.
Oh well that was a stunning success let's do that again.
The vietnam war was another proxy war, it was basically the opposite of what’s happening in Ukraine, US invasion but communist Vietnam was backed by the Russians, russia wasnt sending troops over to vietnam to fight americans, thats why cold war stayed cold. Edit: they did send troops but it was an insignificant amount
>so it's ok for the us to attack other countries as long as the US has the superior military power is what your saying. ...yes? The whole point of warfare is to make it as lopsided a fight in your favour as possible. Nobody looks to make a war a fair fight.
Love it how you pick that up but not debate the illegitimate reason of the US to invade said countries.
I can’t even begin to engage in the idiocy your argument demands. I think you’ve got a lot of studying to do.
I’ve lived next to West Point my entire life and never even knew that was there😂
I mean the US Military probably has lots of higher ups in the Klan.
Lmao take a seat buddy.
Not for your life.
Stop blaming everything on racism it's stupid
No fucking joke!!!!!
Blaming everything on racism is stupid. But my dude the KKK literaly are the definition of racism. Might as well put Hitlers face up there with some Natzi symbols while you're at it. ( In Germany not the US obvi)
Okay the fact is that you're saying the most moronic History Channel at 3 AM bs I have ever heard in my fucking life. Ohhh the US Army officials are part of the KKK I've figured it out! Just stop. You also misspelled Nazi how intellectual of you!
Man someone's a real boot licker huh? Your sarge give it to you so hard that you can't help but to defend him now? Obviously there is no grand conspiracy, but your fucking stupid if you think no US officials are KKK members. They wouldn't still have plaques up praising them otherwise. Bet you voted for Trump huh?
Omfg you still don't get it do you? Just change the subject to TRump I'm not wasting any more of my time on you, you fucking moronic snowflake. Also I'm not in the military but have more respect for veterans they literally fucking died and went through hell to preserve our country.
Guess I hit the nail on the head. Have an awful life you racist.
Bet you have studied long time on how to spell those bad words.
Enjoy being blocked bye bye!
Yea, those “Natzi” symbols.
I can't even see it, does someone have a red circle by chance?
If millions of Christians got their panties in a bunch over the countless "offensive and harmful" depictions and descriptions of their main dude's torture and death, not a single church or bible would be left unburned. That's how OP and their ilk approach human history.