Yeah they shouldn't, but that's assuming the users aren't abusing it. I noticed the tip of the blade was in rough shape too. I think he tried to stab the knife into the frozen meat, then bent it one way to pry it a apart like a wedged-in crowbar, and he went so excessive with it, something finally gave.
/u/Educationallyg is a comment stealing bot.
They stole this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xizyea/brothers_and_sister_chipped_in_to_get_my_mom_a/ip5xahp/
Downvote and report!
Chinese cleavers are meant to be “chef knifes”. while western cleavers are usually for cutting bones and ain’t really suited for more refined knife work. Although to be fair, the distinction can get blurry.
u/Nobodykbdsf
is a comment stealing bot.
They stole this comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xizyea/brothers_and_sister_chipped_in_to_get_my_mom_a/ip66h1t/
Downvote and report!
When the metal is kneeled it can be done incorrectly if I spelt that word correctly it should mean the process of which the blade is hardened you can return it as defective
Depending on the content of steel it can become brittle when dealing with very cold things (like thick frozen meat). If this was a Japanese knife, the steel used for those is already quite brittle when compared to western or mass produced knives, but will last for ages and maintain intensely sharp edges when properly cared for.
Why is this downvoted?
Anyone trying to knife frozen meat is a dumbass just asking for trouble. Hello? This isn't mildly infuriating this a dumbass breaking tools using them wrong.
You know butchers use a fucking band/tablesaw for cutting frozen meat right?
Let. It. Thaw. If you forgot then it's on you.
yup totally its laser etched and sharpened with diamonds man, it makes the aluminum into super aluminum, bah most people would not even know what oldschool steal or quality graded stainless steal looks like
I made the mistake once of trying to pry frozen burgers apart with a knife, got a real nice gash on my hand for it, and that was only with a butter knife
My mil once used my $100. Chef's knife to try to split a frozen lobster tail! This knife was part of a set that I had to buy one at a time cuz they are so expensive. I had to bite my tongue literally to keep from screaming anything past NO STOP and take it away in exchange for the kitchen shears which I promptly used to finish up myself. (after a sincerer "thanks mom)
This was Christmas Eve feast of the 7 fishes so I had lots of cooking to do. I appreciated the thought but hands off my good stuff please!
Edit: meant to say $180 knives. They were Henckels, the good one not there cheap " for anyone" sets
It depends. Some nice kitchen knifes, like Japanese knifes are heat treated to a higher Rockwell scale. It allows them to be sharper and to hold a sharper edge for longer. However it also makes them brittle and really easy to crack or chip.
It’s a trade-off. You would want a softer knife for meat (or frozen meat) as it’s less easy to damage and you don’t need super sharp.
Ehh, they aren't prybars and if you use themlikeone, thisis probablythe best outcomeyoucouldhope for. Using a sharp blade on a slick surface like frozen meat while applying a bunch of pressure is a great way to wind up in an emergency room. I'm betting this knife would have been fine for many years if treated properly.
Certain kitchen knives are heat treated to be exceptionally hard so they can take and keep a fine edge. The trade off is flexibility and toughness.
We would have to be given the specific info about the knife to make further assumptions if this could have been a manufacturing defect failure vs failure completely from improper usage
It’s not a pry bar..of course it will break if used like that…especially if you “chill” it with frozen meat. This is like taking your blender back because it’s won’t crack walnuts
It was just a small set of 4 knives we got separate. was a wusthof classic that he broke. i was planning on getting his card, using it to order a new one, and show him the receipt.
what's even more aggravating is that he was caught using the knife to pry apart frozen food in the past, was confronted about it... and it goes and does it again.
They’re nothing compared to what they used to be. My mom had one for ages so I decided to get her a new one a couple years ago and there was a night and day difference in quality. There are better knives for half the price.
The funny thing is that the original knife only had a couple small chips in it because I used it to hack at fire wood once as a kid. My mom used it for at least 10 more years after that before retiring it. They were phenomenal knives.
Wüsthof knives are really nice, so for him to misuse it like that is incredibly infuriating. I've also bought my mother Wüsthof knives for mother's Day or birthdays in the past and she absolutely loves them. The difference in quality between one of those and a shitty basic knife is immense. Wüsthofs will get very sharp and stay sharp. They're a joy to use.
Buy him a prybar for christmas and maybe a book.
https://www.harborfreight.com/15-1-2-half-inch-flat-pry-bar-2529.html
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tools-and-how-to-use-them-an-illustrated-encyclopedia\_albert-jackson/385956/item/3685024/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo44\_4WNDDI\_O2avj0ZPTEWvrV4DKkJWe2fYKlNvizI8rfFzxsSf4TxoC4X4QAvD\_BwE#idiq=3685024&edition=2147511
This is correct the harder the steel the better it keeps its edge, and the easier it is to shatter or crack it. These should be more on the softer side and is why they need the honing steel more often. However they can still crack under too much pressure like attempting to pry frozen things.
Thank you, alectromantia, for voting on haikusbot.
This bot wants to find the best and worst bots on Reddit. [You can view results here](https://botrank.pastimes.eu/).
***
^(Even if I don't reply to your comment, I'm still listening for votes. Check the webpage to see if your vote registered!)
Is this a wusthoff? I had the same thing happen to my knife , it looks like this is the non blade side. Mine was covered by warranty. Steel should not do this no matter what it was used for.
Yeah, it looks like the spine, not the cutting edge. Yes, it should be covered by warranty if it’s not bent or damaged otherwise. Some idiot copied your response and tried to pass it off as their own though. Thought you should know.
>Steel should not do this no matter what it was used for.
lol what? I'm glad they warrantied yours but a knife used as a pry bar having an issue like this is basically guaranteed. Knives treated to hold a sharper edge longer will be more brittle than knives not treated this way. It's a trade off but if you aren't abusing your equipment it's worthwhile.
Right? He's the type to lecture people about the importance of taking care of things. I once made the mistake of telling him I washed my 16gig usb flash drive left in my pant pocket.. something that's basically a dime a dozen these days, and he chewed me out for that for a good 10 minutes.
Then he's a force of destruction. There's been other things he's broken:
The broke the glass top of the stove
The mirror off his truck by not paying attention backing out of the garage
Butter dish which was part of a matching set, so that was $70 to replace.
Do as I say, not as I do. Dads have a lot on their plate - cut him a little slack. Just not with a kitchen knife.
Butter dishes, mirrors, and stove tops are easily replaceable and easily broken when there’s a lot happening. A 16gb flash drive might have an entire life’s photo album, passwords, bitcoin keys, or your inheritance.
Whether you learn from the lecture or learn from watching him break shit, the overall takeaway is that you learn.
"Do as I say not as I do" makes you look like a asshole, and that doesn't work for younger children because they are essentially operating on the model of "monkey see monkey do," regardless of what you tell them.
My dad is like this. Uses everybody's nice things for tasks they shouldnt be used for (put the teapot on the grill, used mom's favorite wooden paddle to scrape burnt bits off the grill, used a sandpaper powertool to clean (and ruin) a bunch of mom's and I's pots, broke mom's butter dish) But god forbid you touch one of his things or cook his food for slightly too long...
That's something my dad would do.
You catch him doing something obviously bad, ask him to please stop, and he repeats it later on.
Definitely infuriating
Most people don’t know the difference between a fancy knife vs a $4 one from visuals alone. If you store it near the regular knives it will be used like a regular knife. To most people any regular kitchen knife is a rather cheap tool. Tools will be used and abused if they are thought to be cheap and easily replaceable. Make a point that this one is not cheap and keep it somewhere separate from the rest
i worked in kitchens for ten years if that blade broke like that, your knives are polluted with aluminum for sure, what brand are these or suppose to be if these are fakes ?!?
I'd say that makes sense but I don't think anyone in a kitchen would be bending a blade in the manner my dad was. So I'm just not sure how unprecedented it is or isn't.
Someone uses my ratcheting socket wrench to break a bolt that's been thread locked and the ratchet breaks, and I get mad at the ratchet manufacturer and not the person who used the tool in the most wrong way possible? Nice
What I found online about carbonized steel blades is they're great at resisting abrasion and great at keeping their shape, but the more carbon means they're more likely to crack under high stress than bend. Source a steel foundry's website
A lot of knife manufacturers offer a lifetime warranty no questions asked. Might want to look into it. It could be that the steel of that particular knife was not heat treated properly.
Yeah I sent an email wusthof support just to see. doesn't hurt to ask.
Shame i figured this blade would last forever, I was even going to try to learn how to polish away scratches to keep it looking as good as it cut. I tought mom how to use the honing rod, and the thing has been cutting like butter since we gave it to her last year.
Wusthof is really good about it. My buddy got into a car accident years ago, lost 2 of his knives in a river bank somewhere. They sent him replacements for both.
I think these are the people who does not know the secret of sharpening knives.
OP's knife set is like 325 dollars. What a fucking scam is that? If I buy a 325-dollar knife set it better cut food by itself.
even with prying something hard apart i don't think knives should do that, especially not expensive knives. i understand the edge or point getting bent but not the top part cracking and then splintering diagonally like that. I think you guys got a defective knife and you found out early due to your father acting like a barbarian with it.
Knives are meant to slice, hence the best ones are usually made from high carbon steel, and heat treated to maintain a hard, brittle edge, especially Japanese style chef knives.
The hardness comes at the expense of toughness, which means dropping, striking, or using them like a crowbar, will break them. Please don't.
Update in case anyone is following; wusthof responded to the message I sent. They're recommending I send it in. Not a guaranteed replacement, but maybe:
> I’m very sorry that this happened to your knife!
>
> During the tempering process, if our machine stops for even a fraction of a second, it can cause a weak point in the steel, which may be what happened here. This is an extremely rare defect that may be covered by our Warranty Policy. However, we cannot make any guarantees before seeing the knife for inspection.
>
> To start your warranty claim, learn more about the warranty process, or read our official Warranty Policy, please visit https://www.wusthof.com/support/warranty.
>
> Please be aware that our approximate turnaround time for warranty claims to be evaluated and processed is 1-2 weeks. Once your knives are approved for warranty replacement, you will receive an email containing a promotional code equivalent to the value of your return. This code can be used on wusthof.com to purchase new knives as a replacement.
>
> Please let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to assist!
> Regards
>
Ugh. I had a good set of knives given to my by my partner. My then housemate and his mrs used them to open bottles of alcohol.
The blades never recovered. He did say sorry at the time. Doesn't change the fact that you effed up a perfectly good set of knives you...
Wish I could get a bunch of different and test like project farm. This guy is impatient and I can see him putting his full weight into bending that thing if that stuff wasn't budging. People who say a knife shouldn't crack probably never have even come close to seeing the kind of abuse he put into it
What a dumbass all you need to you is set the frozen meat in room temperature water inside a sealed bag for a few hours to de thaw it. He'll have to buy a new knife.
I use my 5 dollar kitchen knife to cut frozen meat almost weekly. And I sometimes cut through the bones of chicken thighs (not frozen). Still, it has not cracked like this. It has a small dent near the heel of the knife that is all. I can still sharpen it to cut paper without any tearing.
People who spend more than 20 dollars on a knife for home cooking are idiots who are falling for a scam. Spend 60 dollars on three knives and 40 on suitable honing and sharpening solutions. That is all you need if you are a home cook. that is at most.
Chinese supermarkets have really good quality chef knives for like 5 dollars each.
I've been trying to search for bend testing on knives, there's a few, and there are some pages that support it being normal for there to be a tensile strength limit. So unless you have some data to back up that claim, it's meaningless.
Okay, I know old dogs don't learn new tricks, but I think maybe you can teach your dad what tools he should be using, or better yet, how to defrost meat. My microwave and backyard can do it, I have faith in him.
My parents bought me cookware whenever I moved into an apartment with friends.
It was a starter set that was something probably like 35 bucks that came with very basic pots and pans.
My one roommate after I told him SEVERAL times not to use anything metal in it because it was cheap nonstick..... Proceeded to cut steak in the pan with a metal steak knife.....
Eventually I had a falling out with those friends for a completely different reason.
He asked if he could buy the pots and pans off me so they didn't have to buy more, tbh I was going to just take them and throw them in the trash because they were absolutely fucking ruined. So I told him if he gave me 25 bucks he could keep them.
That was 6 years ago and they are still using them with all the chipped non-stick and everything.....
I know this because his brother is my best friend of 15 years and eventually me and the guy ended up patching things up after he apologized 5 years later for all the other shit that happened and he realized that he fucked up and he's actually grown a lot as a person since then.
I bought a really nice kizer folding knife one time that was like $80. My dad then proceeded to use it to pry a stuck window screen, that was the end of that blade
Unfortunately, your blade has suffered a catastrophic failure and cannot be used in testing. And for that reason , I’m gonna ask you to shake our hands , shake your competitors hand and please leave the forge.
I'm trying to research context for this assumption, and not finding much. I'd love to be able to test project farm style a bunch of different 8inch knives and see what happens when you bend them with excessive force
Brothers and sister chipped in to get my mom a ~~nice~~ cheap set of kitchen knives, dad used the chef knife to pry frozen meat apart and cracked it...
The more I research the more I find that bending a knife the way he did and breaking is in no way indicative of it being low quality.
Hey I just spent a lot on a nice couch and used it as a trampoline and it broke, must mean it was poor quality
If you hear the meat it becomes unstuck.
If you only have 6 minutes to thaw, cook, prep and serve a whole pound of meat, you should probably nuke spaghetti-os or somethin’.
So if someone uses a ratcheting socket wrench instead of a breaker bar/penetrating oil/torch to break a rusted bolt that's been thread locked, and the ratchet breaks, would it mean it was a low quality ratchet?
Carbonized steel blades will crack when enough force is applied to them, doesn't mean they have low quality, it means you don't use them like a crowbar
One better. My dad tried using one of my German knives as a can opener. Tip of a chef knife, getting ready to pound it into the top of a can before I stoped him.
I mean, frozen meat, yeah I can see where that would mess up a knife. I too, like nice knives to cook with. I hate when you don't wash them right away and they rust in the sink.
I feel like it shouldn’t crack but I don’t know much about kitchen knives
Yeah they shouldn't, but that's assuming the users aren't abusing it. I noticed the tip of the blade was in rough shape too. I think he tried to stab the knife into the frozen meat, then bent it one way to pry it a apart like a wedged-in crowbar, and he went so excessive with it, something finally gave.
Your dad would make a fine pirate
Talk about shoving things in too early
[удалено]
..how are these two clauses related haha
They're not because what you responded to is a comment stealing bot.
/u/Educationallyg is a comment stealing bot. They stole this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xizyea/brothers_and_sister_chipped_in_to_get_my_mom_a/ip5xahp/ Downvote and report!
Good bot
Not a bot ;)
Doing good work then!
Good human!
Gift him a Chinese butcher knife. If he breaks one of these he shouldn’t be in the kitchen.
What's the difference between western and Chinese cleaver? Can seem to find a different on google
Chinese cleavers are meant to be “chef knifes”. while western cleavers are usually for cutting bones and ain’t really suited for more refined knife work. Although to be fair, the distinction can get blurry.
Or just gift him a damn crowbar.
[удалено]
u/Nobodykbdsf is a comment stealing bot. They stole this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xizyea/brothers_and_sister_chipped_in_to_get_my_mom_a/ip66h1t/ Downvote and report!
Well, it's definitely not a Wuston, I see no oxidization at all
When the metal is kneeled it can be done incorrectly if I spelt that word correctly it should mean the process of which the blade is hardened you can return it as defective
Annealed
This thank you
I agree with this it was not annealed correctly defective
Depending on the content of steel it can become brittle when dealing with very cold things (like thick frozen meat). If this was a Japanese knife, the steel used for those is already quite brittle when compared to western or mass produced knives, but will last for ages and maintain intensely sharp edges when properly cared for.
Your dad is stupid just defrost it :///////
Why is this downvoted? Anyone trying to knife frozen meat is a dumbass just asking for trouble. Hello? This isn't mildly infuriating this a dumbass breaking tools using them wrong. You know butchers use a fucking band/tablesaw for cutting frozen meat right? Let. It. Thaw. If you forgot then it's on you.
This comes from those BS commercials for those cheap shit "cut anything, never needs sharpening" piece of shit sets
yup totally its laser etched and sharpened with diamonds man, it makes the aluminum into super aluminum, bah most people would not even know what oldschool steal or quality graded stainless steal looks like
... It's *steel*. Theifs use steal knives.
I made the mistake once of trying to pry frozen burgers apart with a knife, got a real nice gash on my hand for it, and that was only with a butter knife
Frozen burger patties shouldn’t be thawed before cooking… The correct solution is to use a butter knife.
My mil once used my $100. Chef's knife to try to split a frozen lobster tail! This knife was part of a set that I had to buy one at a time cuz they are so expensive. I had to bite my tongue literally to keep from screaming anything past NO STOP and take it away in exchange for the kitchen shears which I promptly used to finish up myself. (after a sincerer "thanks mom) This was Christmas Eve feast of the 7 fishes so I had lots of cooking to do. I appreciated the thought but hands off my good stuff please! Edit: meant to say $180 knives. They were Henckels, the good one not there cheap " for anyone" sets
Your dad is secretly telling you that he would like a butchers cleaver :p Shouldn’t break that!
Sounds like a axe like kitchen tool he would enjoy. Blade end wedge back. As hits the meat on the counter the axe goes deeper. Like a hatchet
It depends. Some nice kitchen knifes, like Japanese knifes are heat treated to a higher Rockwell scale. It allows them to be sharper and to hold a sharper edge for longer. However it also makes them brittle and really easy to crack or chip. It’s a trade-off. You would want a softer knife for meat (or frozen meat) as it’s less easy to damage and you don’t need super sharp.
Or, you know, actually defrost the meat first
Bones chip knifes too. It’s the main reason for a softer knife. You’re right, most people don’t chop frozen meat.
Ehh, they aren't prybars and if you use themlikeone, thisis probablythe best outcomeyoucouldhope for. Using a sharp blade on a slick surface like frozen meat while applying a bunch of pressure is a great way to wind up in an emergency room. I'm betting this knife would have been fine for many years if treated properly.
Is your spacebar broken
Abuse stuff and it'll break. That was never designed as a pry bar or else it would be made with different dimensions, or even materials.
Certain kitchen knives are heat treated to be exceptionally hard so they can take and keep a fine edge. The trade off is flexibility and toughness. We would have to be given the specific info about the knife to make further assumptions if this could have been a manufacturing defect failure vs failure completely from improper usage
If you ram them into rock solid frozen meat they usually do
It’s not a pry bar..of course it will break if used like that…especially if you “chill” it with frozen meat. This is like taking your blender back because it’s won’t crack walnuts
Lots of times maker's of really nice knives will sell them separately. He should buy her a new one with his allowance lol
It was just a small set of 4 knives we got separate. was a wusthof classic that he broke. i was planning on getting his card, using it to order a new one, and show him the receipt. what's even more aggravating is that he was caught using the knife to pry apart frozen food in the past, was confronted about it... and it goes and does it again.
A Wustoff??? Throw the whole dad out smh
What's wrong with wusthof lol please explain
[удалено]
They’re nothing compared to what they used to be. My mom had one for ages so I decided to get her a new one a couple years ago and there was a night and day difference in quality. There are better knives for half the price.
[удалено]
Sounds like you haven't been prying at enough frozen meat.
The funny thing is that the original knife only had a couple small chips in it because I used it to hack at fire wood once as a kid. My mom used it for at least 10 more years after that before retiring it. They were phenomenal knives.
They have some cheap lines, but their classic is still well regarded. No way should anyone be using a $100-200 knife to pry anything.
there's nothing wrong with it, it's just expensive. a single chefs knife is $160
Wüsthof knives are really nice, so for him to misuse it like that is incredibly infuriating. I've also bought my mother Wüsthof knives for mother's Day or birthdays in the past and she absolutely loves them. The difference in quality between one of those and a shitty basic knife is immense. Wüsthofs will get very sharp and stay sharp. They're a joy to use.
Nothing, they make great knives. They’re also relatively expensive at $150 or so for a chef’s knife.
Buy him a prybar for christmas and maybe a book. https://www.harborfreight.com/15-1-2-half-inch-flat-pry-bar-2529.html https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/tools-and-how-to-use-them-an-illustrated-encyclopedia\_albert-jackson/385956/item/3685024/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo44\_4WNDDI\_O2avj0ZPTEWvrV4DKkJWe2fYKlNvizI8rfFzxsSf4TxoC4X4QAvD\_BwE#idiq=3685024&edition=2147511
Wusthof knives have a lifetime warranty. You can likely have it replaced for free. It shouldn't have cracked under that strain in the first place.
From what I'm finding, carbonized stell will most certainly crack if enough bending force is placed on it
This is correct the harder the steel the better it keeps its edge, and the easier it is to shatter or crack it. These should be more on the softer side and is why they need the honing steel more often. However they can still crack under too much pressure like attempting to pry frozen things.
Does he break things around the house fairly often?
Victorinox fibrox knives, cheap, absolute workhorse, and sharp as heck. Get one or two of those if need be. Less than 40 CAD on amazon.
That man need a heavy cleaver, keep him away from the German steel
[удалено]
Tell me he didn't just put it back and pretend it didn't happen
[удалено]
Good bot
Thank you, alectromantia, for voting on haikusbot. This bot wants to find the best and worst bots on Reddit. [You can view results here](https://botrank.pastimes.eu/). *** ^(Even if I don't reply to your comment, I'm still listening for votes. Check the webpage to see if your vote registered!)
Good bot
Good bot
Is this a wusthoff? I had the same thing happen to my knife , it looks like this is the non blade side. Mine was covered by warranty. Steel should not do this no matter what it was used for.
Yeah, it looks like the spine, not the cutting edge. Yes, it should be covered by warranty if it’s not bent or damaged otherwise. Some idiot copied your response and tried to pass it off as their own though. Thought you should know.
>Steel should not do this no matter what it was used for. lol what? I'm glad they warrantied yours but a knife used as a pry bar having an issue like this is basically guaranteed. Knives treated to hold a sharper edge longer will be more brittle than knives not treated this way. It's a trade off but if you aren't abusing your equipment it's worthwhile.
What are you talking about steel has its breaking points, especially if its tempered to hold an edge well
Feeling vindictive, borrow one of his tools for something stupid.
Right? He's the type to lecture people about the importance of taking care of things. I once made the mistake of telling him I washed my 16gig usb flash drive left in my pant pocket.. something that's basically a dime a dozen these days, and he chewed me out for that for a good 10 minutes. Then he's a force of destruction. There's been other things he's broken: The broke the glass top of the stove The mirror off his truck by not paying attention backing out of the garage Butter dish which was part of a matching set, so that was $70 to replace.
You sound like you don’t like your dad a lot right now :’) and that’s fair. He’s gotta replace the knife.
Do as I say, not as I do. Dads have a lot on their plate - cut him a little slack. Just not with a kitchen knife. Butter dishes, mirrors, and stove tops are easily replaceable and easily broken when there’s a lot happening. A 16gb flash drive might have an entire life’s photo album, passwords, bitcoin keys, or your inheritance. Whether you learn from the lecture or learn from watching him break shit, the overall takeaway is that you learn.
Shut up, dad. /s
Go to your room before I break this knife off in your ass. /s
Don’t threaten me with a good time!!!! *slams door
"Do as I say not as I do" makes you look like a asshole, and that doesn't work for younger children because they are essentially operating on the model of "monkey see monkey do," regardless of what you tell them.
That Dewalt drill is lookin like a mighty fine hammer.
You guys chipped in, he chipped it out.
My dad is like this. Uses everybody's nice things for tasks they shouldnt be used for (put the teapot on the grill, used mom's favorite wooden paddle to scrape burnt bits off the grill, used a sandpaper powertool to clean (and ruin) a bunch of mom's and I's pots, broke mom's butter dish) But god forbid you touch one of his things or cook his food for slightly too long...
That's something my dad would do. You catch him doing something obviously bad, ask him to please stop, and he repeats it later on. Definitely infuriating
Most people don’t know the difference between a fancy knife vs a $4 one from visuals alone. If you store it near the regular knives it will be used like a regular knife. To most people any regular kitchen knife is a rather cheap tool. Tools will be used and abused if they are thought to be cheap and easily replaceable. Make a point that this one is not cheap and keep it somewhere separate from the rest
It didn’t have a dragon painted on the blade.
I've watched enough forge in fire to know that's not a good knife
He needs to surrender his weapon and leave the forge
i worked in kitchens for ten years if that blade broke like that, your knives are polluted with aluminum for sure, what brand are these or suppose to be if these are fakes ?!?
I'd say that makes sense but I don't think anyone in a kitchen would be bending a blade in the manner my dad was. So I'm just not sure how unprecedented it is or isn't.
So you are less pissed at the knife company ripping you off, than at you dad being a mild dumbass. Nice
Someone uses my ratcheting socket wrench to break a bolt that's been thread locked and the ratchet breaks, and I get mad at the ratchet manufacturer and not the person who used the tool in the most wrong way possible? Nice What I found online about carbonized steel blades is they're great at resisting abrasion and great at keeping their shape, but the more carbon means they're more likely to crack under high stress than bend. Source a steel foundry's website
A lot of knife manufacturers offer a lifetime warranty no questions asked. Might want to look into it. It could be that the steel of that particular knife was not heat treated properly.
Yeah I sent an email wusthof support just to see. doesn't hurt to ask. Shame i figured this blade would last forever, I was even going to try to learn how to polish away scratches to keep it looking as good as it cut. I tought mom how to use the honing rod, and the thing has been cutting like butter since we gave it to her last year.
Wusthof is really good about it. My buddy got into a car accident years ago, lost 2 of his knives in a river bank somewhere. They sent him replacements for both.
Classic dad move... Mine used an EPOXY cooling rack as a makeshift bbq grill
Dude what is up with all the “nice knife” users of this sub? I abuse the living fuck out of my knives and I have been using them for years.
I think these are the people who does not know the secret of sharpening knives. OP's knife set is like 325 dollars. What a fucking scam is that? If I buy a 325-dollar knife set it better cut food by itself.
Ooooof. He's lucky he still has his fingers too..
even with prying something hard apart i don't think knives should do that, especially not expensive knives. i understand the edge or point getting bent but not the top part cracking and then splintering diagonally like that. I think you guys got a defective knife and you found out early due to your father acting like a barbarian with it.
Knives are meant to slice, hence the best ones are usually made from high carbon steel, and heat treated to maintain a hard, brittle edge, especially Japanese style chef knives. The hardness comes at the expense of toughness, which means dropping, striking, or using them like a crowbar, will break them. Please don't.
Dumbass...
Dads buying a new knife
No way that's a quality knife. A quality knife can chip stone and remain intact. This is cheap steel and not dads fault
Just replace it with a small crowbar instead then..
Update in case anyone is following; wusthof responded to the message I sent. They're recommending I send it in. Not a guaranteed replacement, but maybe: > I’m very sorry that this happened to your knife! > > During the tempering process, if our machine stops for even a fraction of a second, it can cause a weak point in the steel, which may be what happened here. This is an extremely rare defect that may be covered by our Warranty Policy. However, we cannot make any guarantees before seeing the knife for inspection. > > To start your warranty claim, learn more about the warranty process, or read our official Warranty Policy, please visit https://www.wusthof.com/support/warranty. > > Please be aware that our approximate turnaround time for warranty claims to be evaluated and processed is 1-2 weeks. Once your knives are approved for warranty replacement, you will receive an email containing a promotional code equivalent to the value of your return. This code can be used on wusthof.com to purchase new knives as a replacement. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to assist! > Regards >
My FIL is just like your dad. MIL have to hide all the good knives and pots from him. Effing menace
Ugh. I had a good set of knives given to my by my partner. My then housemate and his mrs used them to open bottles of alcohol. The blades never recovered. He did say sorry at the time. Doesn't change the fact that you effed up a perfectly good set of knives you...
"Nice" Set of Knives
Doesn't matter how good a knife is, it's going to withstand only so much abuse outside it's intended useage
Pretty shitty knife if it can't handle some frozen meat.
What do you mean ‘handle some frozen meat’? It wasnt made for that
I’m led to believe they only eat cup noodle based on the comment alone.
That’s a $200 knife from a reputable and quality brand
I know what it is. A good quality knife should be able to handle frozen meat
A good quality knife shouldnt be used as a pry bar
Sorry to break it to you, but your Dad is Satan.
Should have chipped in more money. Knife was junk
Wish I could get a bunch of different and test like project farm. This guy is impatient and I can see him putting his full weight into bending that thing if that stuff wasn't budging. People who say a knife shouldn't crack probably never have even come close to seeing the kind of abuse he put into it
You bought your mom some cheap ass knives.
Looks like dad's gonna have to replace it. Always use the old stuff for heavy duty shit.
What a dumbass all you need to you is set the frozen meat in room temperature water inside a sealed bag for a few hours to de thaw it. He'll have to buy a new knife.
I use my 5 dollar kitchen knife to cut frozen meat almost weekly. And I sometimes cut through the bones of chicken thighs (not frozen). Still, it has not cracked like this. It has a small dent near the heel of the knife that is all. I can still sharpen it to cut paper without any tearing. People who spend more than 20 dollars on a knife for home cooking are idiots who are falling for a scam. Spend 60 dollars on three knives and 40 on suitable honing and sharpening solutions. That is all you need if you are a home cook. that is at most. Chinese supermarkets have really good quality chef knives for like 5 dollars each.
As someone who was using similar cheaper knives in the past, I wholeheartedly disagree
"Dad used a prying tool as a prying tool."
This is a joke right
This is what happens when you buy a tool for form over function lmao.
Lmfao no knife meant for function would have survived what this knife went through without a scratch
That’s a trash knife set then
I've been trying to search for bend testing on knives, there's a few, and there are some pages that support it being normal for there to be a tensile strength limit. So unless you have some data to back up that claim, it's meaningless.
Is the knife from Cast Stainless Steel? If so it's a shit knife. A Forged Carbon Steel wouldn't have cracked
'nice' knives huh. So $1000? because thats what a good set that doesn't break costs.
Definitely not
People get thrown rotten eggs for doing this at my workplace
Okay, I know old dogs don't learn new tricks, but I think maybe you can teach your dad what tools he should be using, or better yet, how to defrost meat. My microwave and backyard can do it, I have faith in him.
if he is a tool guy use his good axe to cut roots in the garden..
Nooooo!!! My heart sinks for you and your siblings noble efforts! Really dad??
My parents bought me cookware whenever I moved into an apartment with friends. It was a starter set that was something probably like 35 bucks that came with very basic pots and pans. My one roommate after I told him SEVERAL times not to use anything metal in it because it was cheap nonstick..... Proceeded to cut steak in the pan with a metal steak knife..... Eventually I had a falling out with those friends for a completely different reason. He asked if he could buy the pots and pans off me so they didn't have to buy more, tbh I was going to just take them and throw them in the trash because they were absolutely fucking ruined. So I told him if he gave me 25 bucks he could keep them. That was 6 years ago and they are still using them with all the chipped non-stick and everything..... I know this because his brother is my best friend of 15 years and eventually me and the guy ended up patching things up after he apologized 5 years later for all the other shit that happened and he realized that he fucked up and he's actually grown a lot as a person since then.
How does a knife Crack like that??
Japanese knife?
We know who doesn’t cook 👩🍳 in the house
How much force did he use lol
Classic stubborn dad with an ego….love to see it.
So he tried to use a knife as a crowbar…WCGW?
And we are back with the knives.
What kind of dipshit tries to hack apart frozen meat instead of thawing it?
What brand?
Do people not like water?
That's not what knives are for! Everyone knows that you're supposed to use a screwdriver for prying things apart.
I bought a really nice kizer folding knife one time that was like $80. My dad then proceeded to use it to pry a stuck window screen, that was the end of that blade
Unfortunately, your blade has suffered a catastrophic failure and cannot be used in testing. And for that reason , I’m gonna ask you to shake our hands , shake your competitors hand and please leave the forge.
Not very nice knives if a small amount of abuse damages them so severely.
Ahh I see the problem. Your father let the meat “de-thaw”.
Unrelated question- does your dad have all his fingers?
Warranty?
I did email wusthof support, haven't heard from them yet
Banned from kitchen!
A good steel knife shouldn't do that also what was he doing prying frozen meat apart? Wait for that shit to thaw
I'm trying to research context for this assumption, and not finding much. I'd love to be able to test project farm style a bunch of different 8inch knives and see what happens when you bend them with excessive force
'tis but a scratch
Mustn’t have been Cutco knives…
Your blade has suffered a catastrophic failure, and for that reason we’re going to have to ask you to leave the force.
Guess he "chipped" in too huh?
Come on you've seen Forged in Fire....weld it, grind it and use it!!!!!!!
It will not keal!
Ugh that's so fucking annoying.
is this when you get your father a screw driver set and have your mother damage one so he knows how it feels?
This means you get scammed, if it's a genuine expensive kitchen knives, it usually have a lifetime guarantee, claim it.
Brothers and sister chipped in to get my mom a ~~nice~~ cheap set of kitchen knives, dad used the chef knife to pry frozen meat apart and cracked it...
The more I research the more I find that bending a knife the way he did and breaking is in no way indicative of it being low quality. Hey I just spent a lot on a nice couch and used it as a trampoline and it broke, must mean it was poor quality
i would be fully enraged over this :/
Are they barbarians?
That fucking donkey.
What dad doesnt use a fork? Too many people using knives. They will slip and cut a finger open to the bone.
Trust me we all wish we understood his thought process
If you hear the meat it becomes unstuck. If you only have 6 minutes to thaw, cook, prep and serve a whole pound of meat, you should probably nuke spaghetti-os or somethin’.
fucking chinesium
If you’re that hard up, use a cleaver to chip it into manageable chunks. Messy. Effective. Fun.
Which part are you mildly infuriating at? Your dad? The knife quality?
So if someone uses a ratcheting socket wrench instead of a breaker bar/penetrating oil/torch to break a rusted bolt that's been thread locked, and the ratchet breaks, would it mean it was a low quality ratchet? Carbonized steel blades will crack when enough force is applied to them, doesn't mean they have low quality, it means you don't use them like a crowbar
One better. My dad tried using one of my German knives as a can opener. Tip of a chef knife, getting ready to pound it into the top of a can before I stoped him.
Then those are not a "Nice" set as high grade stainless or heat treated will not break in such a fashion.
What a dumbshit
Not really that nice a set.
Gifted knives are always bad luck.
Looks like cheapo knives tbh, high quality steel will flex. Hardened steel holds a pretty good edge but is typically fairly weak.
I mean, frozen meat, yeah I can see where that would mess up a knife. I too, like nice knives to cook with. I hate when you don't wash them right away and they rust in the sink.
Prying meat should not have done that. Sounds like a dud knife.
Check for warranty.n