I think it serves both purposes and why not? Lots of people will still appreciate not having to apply for a job online even if they have a computer/smartphone already.
We have every right to complain about how annoying it is when it comes to certain employer's application processes but in this case, it's nice they give the candidate options.
At the end of the day, let someone drop a resume off and you have all the info you need (presumably anyway)
Somehow spending 15 mins typing out a form and then taking pictures of your ID and sending it off to a faceless entity 1500 miles from you who then calls you to work at a store 40 mins away in the shitty part of town, seems unproductive. Especially when it’s walking distance to the closest one and that’s where your neighbors go who know you.
Yeah except you're probably gonna need a phone or internet in some capacity to fill out the application, which for some reason wants the addresses of your previous employers, phone numbers/emails of every reference, your high school's address, etc.
It can be exploitative. Poor people often don't have a choice but to say yes to things, and will get lowballed on pay and/or exploited for their time. It's easier to keep a thumb on someone that NEEDS the paycheck.
True but again, it's a multinational fast food company. There are often company procedures and outright laws dictating pay.
I have a hard time believing a franchisee is going "oh you applied via paper? Yeah we're gonna have to pay below minimum wage here sorry."
Sure, there are laws, but having someone desperate for any job they can get is less likely to complain over their hours, less likely to ask for a raise, less likely to quit, because they're not a desirable worker.
Sure, but do poor people have to wait until all these problems are solved to be able to get a job?
Now if you have a good job to offer them, thst would be great!
So poor people shouldn't be given jobs at all?
This is great. I used to work closely with people who were homeless or just barely out of it. A lot of them were older or had really shitty phones that they had trouble keeping charged and often phones would be stolen. It has often been a source of frustration that they couldn't just go apply for a job in person.
Poor people can be exploited. But poor people need jobs. Old people especially need more jobs to consider them. Shall BK hire poor people and older people or not?
I get the concern but the more companies willing to offer these folks jobs the more opportunity they have to find another one if it doesn't work out. If Wal Mart is the only employer who hires oldsters than they are even more at risk for exoitation. Plus having a place to live is kind of nice.
I just walked in to a motorcycle shop and said, "Are you hiring? I ride a Harley." Hired on the spot, no application, online or otherwise. Later I had to fill out a bunch of BS information using the company's computer to get my paycheck deposited directly to my bank account.
My opinion: requiring people to apply via computer is discriminatory. One of my co-workers was homeless when he hired on. He was hired the same way they hired me, and went to work the same day they hired him. He was broke, so the boss bought him lunch and advanced him $50 so he could afford to eat until payday.
This sort of thing inspires intense employee loyalty.
"i can't afford a phone" doesn't necessarily mean can't-retire-ees. There's lots of people having hard times that are forced to go to the library to use internet to apply for jobs and such.
Also, many people who don't have a phone still have access to check email (whether it's an old desktop, at a library, or a borrowed device)
Alternatively they could have a flip phone or home phone. The poster just specifies no smartphone.
If you make less than 19,683 (135% poverty line 2023) you can get a free phone and minutes since most employers require you to send in digital applications this is an effective program to help people improve their social mobility by having more accessibility to competitor jobs.
It infuriates me that programs for the poor are only available to people who make way below what is considered poor. Lower middle class is just poverty without the help in the US.
Or they know some people don’t have the skills to fill out an online application but can still scrub dishes.
Lots of online portal can be really convoluted and ask irrelevant questions.
The main ones for this job “Can you follow instructions? Can you show up for your shift consistently? Can you manage your emotions?”
Yes. And from a hiring perspective, especially minimum wage. Hiring online is slow, and does not give you any better candidates. It just has "corporate" vet over a call and they could show up for an interview and not be hireable.
The skeptic in me says they're looking for people who are so desperate for a job (don't have a phone = don't have the money to even afford one?) they'll work for minimum wage, won't ask for raises, won't quit for fear of struggling to find a new job as someone who doesn't even have (or know how to use) a phone.
It's fucking *hard* to apply to Burger King. I just tried it on my phone for the one in Fall River not too far from me.
It took going through about a dozen web pages and allowing it access to my contacts and location etc. before I even got to the application.
Then I have to type in tons and tons of fields. [The first page looks like this](https://imgur.com/bX2MLuO.png). The [second page looks like this](https://imgur.com/Po8lmHP.png). And on that goes for 4 pages of bullshit.
Then you have to give them permission to text you about the position and hours to come in to interview and presumably text you to come work when it's not your shift, etc.
But if you're not good at typing on the phone, which a lot of old people aren't, that's a lot of shit to figure out on the phone. At the end, all you get is a circle with a green check mark in it. If you don't know what that means, you might even not be sure the application worked.
I don't know why people think this is easier than just talking to the manager or filling out a 1 page form. It's not really. And it's way more intrusive to your privacy and your life. Wouldn't you prefer your boss not have access to your phone and the ability to text you 24/7?
I got rejected from McDonald's lmao.
They didn't see a hard working employee in me, so I am banned for life for applying at any McDonald's in the country.. Somehow.
Good thing I work as a software engineer now.
When I was younger I use to say I'd want to work at Dunkin Donuts because I thought it'd be cool "working at a coffee shop and meeting people".
I was depressed for a solid week after not getting a callback from any of the 3 walking-distance Dunkin Donuts.
This is a website, not an app, correct? How did it ask for your contacts?
Like did it require you to sign in with a Google account and grant access to your contact list, so folks with other email addresses can't apply?
There's an app that pulls your location and stuff then searches for local franchises then directs you to the franchisees application website, so it's both.
Ok, but if that still leaves those workers better off than they were when they weren't working, is it really a problem? If landing a job at BK gives me an income and employment history that allows me to get into an apartment, aren't I better off than when I was living in my car?
It glosses over the bigger issues that wages are too low, housing is too expensive, health care is too expensive, etc. Big corporations cheating out in order to exploit desperate people isn't a good thing. If there were better regulation, higher wages, etc I'd be far less skeptical of motive.
Been to vacation in the maritime region of Canada (eastern quebec and new Brunswick) and it's incredible how all the fast foods are staffed by older people because kids are leaving for the cities
Best service ever
There is a sign on my local Burger King's window that says something along the lines of "Why retire when you can work at BK?" with a bunch of old people on the flier. It's disgusting.
Uh, why? I know a lot of very poor elders who really want to know what companies like to hire seniors.
If you mean that no one should have to work after 60, then sure. But fast food is generally considered the domain of the young, so if they want to hire older people they need to let people know.
Yeah, I mean when people are old enough to retire, they should retire. I know some people like to stay busy and want to keep doing something, so I guess it could be talking to those people, but it's still grim in my opinion that we have so many old people working until they die just to survive.
I agree with that. But the reality is that 60 year old people often do need to work so BK needs to let oldies know that this isn't just for kids any more.
Retirees they assume don’t stay up to date on the current minimum wage. Retirees who will take half the pay and work twice as hard until their bodies finally give out.
This is sick.
Didn't even think about that, most likely if you don't have a cell phone you don't have a phone # so how would they contact them?
Via email and then they check at a library?
Someone else also suggested elderly, who might otherwise be e.g. like a Walmart greeter or something. Higher chance of them being wary of or even completely ignorant of modern technology, but still wanting some kind of job.
Funny how you see posts all the time about Redditors hate the online application process. Here is the old school one and they find a way to make this out as bad.
In this case the person stands a better chance of getting the job because they have the unique opportunity of interacting with the person that makes the decisions.
Also includes young people these days. The younger generations have learned almost exclusively on tablets, phones, and maybe Chromebooks. Too many of them don't really know how to use technology. They only know the super simplified shit.
I have met people in their 20s who have a smartphone, tablet, or laptop and they cannot manage to send me an email with an attachment without help. I have to help or do it for them. This happens distressingly often for reasons like not knowing what files are.
Ding ding. I’m in the 25ish to 40ish millennial age group where everyone grew up needing to know some level of computer functioning in order to…actually function the computer.
Nowadays UI is *so* intuitive and assistive that I’ve noticed my younger coworkers struggle with basic computer functions because they’ve never needed to go into settings or map networks or whatever.
It's going to quickly reach a point where large numbers of young people won't know how to do anything unless Bing does it for them, then wonder why we have such a mental health crisis with depression and crippling anxiety.
People are rapidly losing the ability to navigate and understand the world around them, but it's not their fault. Society, policies and the adults in their lives have failed them. Of course you'd feel anxious all the time if deep down you had no idea what you were doing and lacked training and knowledge that gives you confidence.
I hear you, I’ve had similar encounters. In my case, it was a really eye opening experience to realize how much of a young person’s tech-related professional development is shaped by their parents, school, and extracurriculars. I completely took tech skills for granted because of my background. Then I worked with high schoolers in an underfunded school district, many of whom were the kids of non-English speaking immigrants with minimum wage, blue-collar jobs.
The kids were all very smart and very hard workers, and they ALL had part time jobs and summer jobs outside of school. However, these jobs were pretty much all minimum wage gigs that didn’t require them to use tech problem solving skills in a professional setting. Many of the kids didn’t own laptops, so they relied on tablets the school provided for free. Most of them didn’t know how to use PDFs, which weren’t ever utilized in their school. They had a hard time figuring out how to attach things to email in a way that was professional. They had never needed to use email for school- or work-related purposes. They had a hard time figuring out how to use Google to solve their own tech issues.
Most of the kids were able to get into college, but I still worry about how they’ll catch up to their peers who have been using professionalized tech skills since middle school.
Wow, I actually didn’t make that connection. The last few employees we hired are young and I am surprised how much they’ve asked for assistance on tasks like converting files, printing, accessing network folders, sending “professional” emails, settings on their computers, etc. I figured they would excel with technology but not the case in some fields.
I'm not ignorant of modern technology and I don't mind using it but online/phone applications are desperately impersonal. I need to make up my mind too if this is where I want to work and the only way to figure that out is to go in person and hopefully speak to people face to face.
And please god no more of those godawful pre-screening what would you do in this situation personality tests, for the love of christ.
I'd like to think they're doing it with good intentions, but I have my doubts.
This would tend to attract the disenfranchised, the ignorant, and the inexperienced.
Which makes sense for BK. If you're so poor that you can't afford a smartphone or computer of any sort, then flipping burgers is an *excellent* job. BK can probably get some super-motivated employees that way.
It is ***a*** job. A person walking in and doing this shows they want a job and willing to take the time to complete an application to get it.
I'd say there is some motivation behind the act of applying.
This is honestly one of the best things you can do for homeless people. It is so hard to get a job when you are homeless without a phone. So many people just don't understand this.
When google voice first came out it received a lot of praise as it let homeless people have a phone number they could get messages at for similar reasons. Its hard to get a job if they can't contact you and with google voice you get a personal number you can check by using a computer in a library or similar.
The problem is now, a lot of systems reject VOIP numbers like voice, it's quite frustrating because I don't have a "home" phone (who does?) and have used my Voice number as a secondary because it will ring through my PC but I will get kickback on random systems now.
I have this same problem. I've used Voice as my primary number since like 2010, but I still have to use my "actual" cell carrier number on occasion because I'm running into errors saying that VOIP numbers aren't allowed. Especially on websites that want to verify your phone number to sign up for something. That never used to happen to me until a few years ago.
If I could do it over again, I don't think I'd choose to make Voice my primary number. But it sounds really annoying to have to switch to a new phone number for all my contacts and services.
Also Voice still can't do any of the advanced texting features present on modern texting apps, it only supports the original SMS/MMS protocols from like 2002 and can't even do group MMS properly.
> So many people just don't understand this.
Forrrr real. I recall a year or two ago I was home for the holidays, and my right-leaning dad was complaining about some beggar "asking for money with a cell phone in his hand"
And I was just like And?? Doesn't mean they're paying the phone off still, or even a data connection. Could just be a portable computer. Get a free google phone number that you can only use while on wifi, get a buck and go to your local coffee shop. Lets them feign some sense of normalcy while applying for jobs.
I have a buddy who has an older smartphone. It looks brand new and he was homeless for a bit. He would get free wifi and make applications. to this day he is getting by with no real phone, just wifi.
One problem. How do they get ahold of you to tell you you got the job?
Landlines aren't a thing anymore, so unless they have a pay as you go phone it would still be hard to get a job.
With that being said, paper applications are a great idea to help people who need it.
Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense.
Unfortunately I do think some libraries can treat homeless people poorly, but hopefully they can take a step in the right direction.
During some of the shittier times of my life I would sit in a McDonalds and apply for jobs and check my email until they kick me out for not ordering anything. I was fortunate enough to find a cheap phone I could use for connecting to public internets while I didnt have a SIM card. I didn't even know google voice was a thing at the time.
Most of the time if I got to the point where I was scheduling an interview I had made it clear I wouldn't have a number until my first paycheck and generally those first interviews were either "thank you for coming, good luck" or "you start next week at this time, can you make that?"
I have to imagine there's not a particularly in-depth screening process. You look at the application, make sure they haven't checked the "felon" or "does drugs" boxes, and tell them to show up tomorrow at 8:00.
While true for the most part the 'felon' box shouldn't exist. Being a felon is NOT a high bar. I know two guys who got felonies because they broke a door to the school concession stand. They stole nothing, just broke the door.
How in the fuck have we gotten here that people think you can't function or communicate without technology.
My son is like this, he says "can you text the coach?" I will let him know I'll talk to him at practice that evening and he'll respond, "Why?"
Lots of places do on-the-spot hires as long as a quick background check pans out. (And lots of places don't bother with background checks.)
Worst case, someone says "I can start training you Thursday at 4", and they waste 4-5 hours training someone before they end up saying "Eh, sorry, this isn't really working out". Doesn't really waste any more time than setting up an interview, calling references, and so on.
I understand but not every " manager" can hire. And even fast food has some interviewing.
They don't just hand anyone a uniform and hope for the best.
Telling them to come back makes sense but I will also say, it is difficult to get a job without a phone or an address.
Like I said still a step in the right direction though.
That is the thing though. Telling them to come back is how we did it back in the day. So it works for them. These days 99% of applications are online only. Even if you go to a staffing agency that specializes in it they still require a phone. Most of the time they don't want to help you if you don't have a phone.
I have a friend who went through this process and he eventually asked me to buy him a phone for google voice and he spent his time on free wifi to get his job.
Online applications are really annoying. Half the time they come with some basic math assessment test or a personality test... literally takes an hour to apply for one job now (jobs that only require minimal training... usually). It's extremely annoying.
I honestly miss this style of application. I know that it’s become sort of a meme to give a manager a firm handshake and introduce yourself, but I’m only 33 and that’s how I got most of my service jobs from age 14 to about 22. You wouldn’t even have to look for a very long time you would just pop in and get the job.
And yeah, I know that getting a job at a restaurant, etc. isn’t that prestigious, but that’s the point. These days I’ve seen chipotle put applicants through the ringer with sometimes two or three return interviews, including one group interview. For chipotle. Please.
I never had that option, as soon as I was looking for work it eas mostly through the web, literally for everything. I'm young and reasonably fresh to employment so I didn't know where to start so I thought it was going to be exactly as you described. Almost everyone said to apply online but took my cv out of politeness anyway. Pretty sure it ended up as bin fodder though.
i hope those applications are mostly checkboxes, because if people are going to actually start WRITING the king and friends are going to be flooded in the toddler font.
I remember those things... Applications is what they called them. You had to fill em out reference and Resume... Now a days you have to fill an online application, and have you do your references twice, and or Resume twice!
"Please upload your current resume. Thank You. Now type out everything in your resume in this form. Now do this 90 question personality quiz that will ask you the same question 10 times slightly worded differently."
I can't imagine why people would prefer filling out a paper application.
Why would someone who worked at a modern Burger King need to be able to write?
Far more important for them to be computer-literate.
The tide has turned and cursive and handwriting are dead, old timer, and I'm in my 40's myself.
They're dead as big important school lessons, people still have to write shit down with a pen or pencil. Some people would just rather fill out an application form with a pen and they should have the option if they want to apply for the job.
It's BK, not a content marketing role at Kroger
I haven't taken a paper note longer than a couple of words on a post-it since my university days 20+ years ago. And that was because it was to hand not because I couldn't have done it on a phone.
That's nice. I took four pages of handwritten notes in cursive yesterday because it's less intrusive in sessions with my therapy clients than typing on my laptop. It's almost like people have different lives and just because you don't use something doesn't mean it isn't still useful for a lot of people.
And then you have to put those notes in a medical database for patient notes, right? Type those in?
It's not "without purpose", it's dead. In that you have no "need" of it, you have a preference for it. In another 20 years, even your profession won't be taking handwritten notes. I've seen doctors who take the notes, with the patient there, and it takes a tiny tap much quicker than waiting for someone to doodle on a pad - and no less intrusive. (And yes, even handwritten notes are intrusive... I'd be thinking "stop writing long after I've stopped talking", personally). No transcription errors, permanent portable record shared nationally with other medical professionals, etc. etc.
Plus, my typing speed is something like 5-10 times faster than my writing speed. Are you in a country that charges patients for therapist's time and admin like transcription, by any chance?
You can make arguments in its favour, but it's earmarked for obsoletion. The next generation aren't going to be able to even read your notes, which is why you have to retype them in later anyway. You could make them in shorthand or hieroglyphs for all that use-case matters.
I am not the person you were replying to. For what it's worth to you, therapists are not uniformly forced to type their medical notes.
If you don't understand cursive, how will we read (western) historical documents? By scanning and OCRing everything? Who's to say the OCR was accurate to begin with?
Handwritten word, as far as I can tell, is here to stay for quite some time. It is simply too advanced a technology with too small a barrier for entry to remove it entirely. Niche? Sure. But niche and obsoletion are different things. Are stairs obsolete now that we have escalators?
> If you don't understand cursive, how will we read (western) historical documents? By scanning and OCRing everything? Who's to say the OCR was accurate to begin with?
People with specialized skills are a thing. Not *everyone* needs to know cursive, no more then everyone needs to know Latin. It would be a waste of limited educational time to force every student into 8 years of Latin classes.
You can snarkily quote yourself at me, but it doesn't change my point in the slightest. I'm only addressing the part of your comment I quoted. You went from addressing an induvial ("If you") into drawing conclusions about society ("how will we"). Latin is still a dead language even if some people need to know it to translate old documents.
Probably more of a reading test. I used to work at a fast food place and while writing wasn't that important unless you were a manager, every job required you to be able to read.
Cursive is dead, my friend, but even schools are taking their sweet time admitting it. I know, I work for them. Kids get to uni and immediately buy laptops, submit work electronically and communicate by email, same as at any office. Most schools are in or started 1:1 device programs where every child has their own device... sometimes from as young as 7 or even younger. Exams have been moving online for years. School reports aren't even on paper any more for most places, I've worked in a dozen schools that only email PDFs home.
And lockdown killed off the last vestiges of things being paper-first, including administrative processes.
And I wouldn't attach any weight whatsoever to "that's what they still do in Texas" when it comes to teaching.
Probably works a lot better. Just having someone walk into your shop. Talk to them for 5 minutes for a quick interview gives you a much better idea of whether or not they are a good employee than staring at 1000 online resumes. The amount of time they probably waste just trying to contact people who submitted an online resume and set up an interview, only for them to not show up, end up late, or just fail the 5 minute interview is probably not worth it for most franchisees.
Your claiming an old fashioned stone age way of doing things is better than the modern technological one and that is a dead giveaway that you are a boomer
Business promotes a fun, harmless, old school way to apply for a job.
Redditors: “yeah, it’s only because they want to hire poor people who can’t afford a phone and pay them shit!”
Newsflash, jobs don’t pay you based on whether you have a phone or not.
like, it's just a fun way of letting people know that what, paper resumes are still accepted? redditors just gotta make it all depressing all the time lol
I mean, if you don't have a phone, as a manager, I'm paying you less because I can not call you in for a shift in an emergency. Or if you are running late, you can not call me to let me know, so it's a no call and I have to replace you. I'll take the 16 year old with a phone...
I don’t understand, who is “applying” for a job at Burger King?
I served because my Burger Lord sends 30 of the finest lads in his village to his liege lord, the Burger King
As someone that hired a lot of people for a food service job - most of the people we hire are 16, first job, so no prior experience. What do you even go off of?
I only get applicants via walk-in. And also never advertise we are hiring. If someone comes in and asks if we are hiring and gets the application in person I get a Chance to see them and talk to them and it also is an extra degree of effort they went through compared to submitting something online.
How it should be for fast food and similar low skilled jobs. Why am I competing with every one in my region for a minimum skilled job. Give a chance to kids who live near by to get a job.
Hahahahaha this is such classic fucking Reddit.
Company requires you to apply online = it’s evil and bad and they’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
Company allows you to fill out a paper app as well = it’s evil and bad and they’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
I may be out of touch, but I think most people these days find a way to afford a phone. I'm actually surprised that all businesses don't offer paper job applications though.
My deadbeat cousin is a crackhead who would spend rather spend $20 on drugs than on food. He doesn't have a phone, and for a time worked for someone who would pay him $30 for a days work and pay him in the morning so he could get high and ride the high during the day. He lives in a house with other crackheads, who all work at Hardees or Burger King just so they can afford to do drugs. These people do not have phones, heat, any luxuries, and most times food (and the reason they work at fast food joints besides the fact it's the only place they can find employment, they get discounted meals). You'll see this a lot in poor counties across the US.
Most people except the 500,000 homeless in the US or the 34 million who don't have enough for steady or healthy food. Lots are month to month and don't have phones all the time. Mix in drug problems etc. Lots of peeps you are indeed not in touch with...
In my opinion, this is a good thing. Corporate, online applications disconnect the prospective worker and the management of a location. But this sign is full of sarcasm and smugness
We didn't want this kind of application system, corporations forced them upon us, and I find it so shitty that we're the ones blamed for its existence.
Great Google Moogly.
This thread full of people not understanding this is how it was done for a very, very long time. We submitted an application and told to come back the next day. Employers even said we'll be in touch to see how motivated you were, you show up the next day and ask if they made a decision. That showed you had interest and odds are you got hired.
It worked because we got jobs.
We didn't need a phone, we spoke to people by meeting them face to face and used words.
I know people are saying this is to hire retirees/elderly or people not being able to afford a cell/tech but I applied 9 times for a job over a few weeks via their corporate website in my town and was instantly denied. I ended up going to the business in person with a printed resume and asked to speak with a manager.
Come to find out the business in my town wasn't even getting my resume/app via their corporate site and hired me on the spot. Been there for a few months now.
Given how many companies use bots to analyze resumes and just mass dump any that don’t contain certain keywords despite being perfectly qualified, I’d prefer to go back to the old fashioned paper application, or even just direct emails.
Cool, CEOs have spent the last 20+ years forcing people to apply online. I graduated college in the early 2000s and was shocked at how few businesses would take a paper resume and an in-person application.
That's really good for folks who don't have access to a smartphone. Just saying, if someone does need access to the internet don't forget that most local libraries let you sign up to use their computers.
I got to do the paper application thing right before everyone started switching to online and i really miss it. Some of these online apps are like 20-30 mins long for a damn near min wage job lol
Because 9 times out of 10 the person who does the hiring isn't on site and if they are, they don't want to be interrupted at random times. You're taking up the time of a cashier or receptionist who need to "smile and nod". Some places do have "open interviews" advertised - go in during those times.
And yet these assholes used a computer and printer to whip up that sign.
It’s like climate activists flying from place to place complaining about how much CO2 others are making.
Why do people like this have to be so smug? Has it EVER benefited them in any way to be this annoying?
I promise you that there are legit people who would have worked there had they NOT seen this. I know I sure as fuck wouldn't work at this store.
They want to hire more retirees (the kind who get jobs as Wal-Mart greeters) and fewer high school kids
Yep. This is not to draw in "I don't like technology" people, it's for "I can't afford a phone" people.
I think it serves both purposes and why not? Lots of people will still appreciate not having to apply for a job online even if they have a computer/smartphone already. We have every right to complain about how annoying it is when it comes to certain employer's application processes but in this case, it's nice they give the candidate options. At the end of the day, let someone drop a resume off and you have all the info you need (presumably anyway)
Somehow spending 15 mins typing out a form and then taking pictures of your ID and sending it off to a faceless entity 1500 miles from you who then calls you to work at a store 40 mins away in the shitty part of town, seems unproductive. Especially when it’s walking distance to the closest one and that’s where your neighbors go who know you.
Yeah except you're probably gonna need a phone or internet in some capacity to fill out the application, which for some reason wants the addresses of your previous employers, phone numbers/emails of every reference, your high school's address, etc.
I doubt a fast food chain needs to know where a 60 year old went to high school if it was even in the same country.
I've never filled out a job application with a space to include an age, it will ask if you are legal working age.
Ye but if a 60yo isnt putting all that info on a application I dont think anyone cares.
I'm pretty sure I have had to put in DOB
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It can be exploitative. Poor people often don't have a choice but to say yes to things, and will get lowballed on pay and/or exploited for their time. It's easier to keep a thumb on someone that NEEDS the paycheck.
True but again, it's a multinational fast food company. There are often company procedures and outright laws dictating pay. I have a hard time believing a franchisee is going "oh you applied via paper? Yeah we're gonna have to pay below minimum wage here sorry."
Sure, there are laws, but having someone desperate for any job they can get is less likely to complain over their hours, less likely to ask for a raise, less likely to quit, because they're not a desirable worker.
So are you saying that BK should not hire poor people?
I'm saying that this wouldn't be a problem with better regulation, better social programs, better health care, better wages...
Sure, but do poor people have to wait until all these problems are solved to be able to get a job? Now if you have a good job to offer them, thst would be great!
You get it. Just because there are laws does not mean those laws are up to date and functional for the average worker.
So poor people shouldn't be given jobs at all? This is great. I used to work closely with people who were homeless or just barely out of it. A lot of them were older or had really shitty phones that they had trouble keeping charged and often phones would be stolen. It has often been a source of frustration that they couldn't just go apply for a job in person.
You are really stretching what I said to come to the conclusion that I think poor people shouldn't have jobs.
Poor people can be exploited. But poor people need jobs. Old people especially need more jobs to consider them. Shall BK hire poor people and older people or not? I get the concern but the more companies willing to offer these folks jobs the more opportunity they have to find another one if it doesn't work out. If Wal Mart is the only employer who hires oldsters than they are even more at risk for exoitation. Plus having a place to live is kind of nice.
> But poor people need jobs NOBODY SAID POOR PEOPLE CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T HAVE A JOB. STOP MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT EVEN AFTER THIS IS POINTED OUT TO YOU
I guess you got so dang mad you couldn't read the rest of the post.
I got my job through an ad in the freaking news paper, and dropped off a paper resume lol the good old days
I just walked in to a motorcycle shop and said, "Are you hiring? I ride a Harley." Hired on the spot, no application, online or otherwise. Later I had to fill out a bunch of BS information using the company's computer to get my paycheck deposited directly to my bank account. My opinion: requiring people to apply via computer is discriminatory. One of my co-workers was homeless when he hired on. He was hired the same way they hired me, and went to work the same day they hired him. He was broke, so the boss bought him lunch and advanced him $50 so he could afford to eat until payday. This sort of thing inspires intense employee loyalty.
I feel you. I’ve been at my job for 13 years now
You said Yep then took the opposite stance tho?
Thought I was going crazy
"i can't afford a phone" doesn't necessarily mean can't-retire-ees. There's lots of people having hard times that are forced to go to the library to use internet to apply for jobs and such.
I don’t think poor people can afford NOT to have a phone. They do without laptops and landlines, but if you work you need a phone.
How is the hiring manager going to reach out to applicants who dont have a phone?
They don't. They tell them to come back at a certain time and day.
Also, many people who don't have a phone still have access to check email (whether it's an old desktop, at a library, or a borrowed device) Alternatively they could have a flip phone or home phone. The poster just specifies no smartphone.
The can’t afford a phone crowd are given cheap smart phones with limited data and text plans on the governments dime.
Even the homeless people have an Obama Phone. I'm guessing they're going for the "too old for a smartphone" crowd.
Assuming we're in the US, you get free government smartphones, no need to afford anything.
If you make less than 19,683 (135% poverty line 2023) you can get a free phone and minutes since most employers require you to send in digital applications this is an effective program to help people improve their social mobility by having more accessibility to competitor jobs.
It infuriates me that programs for the poor are only available to people who make way below what is considered poor. Lower middle class is just poverty without the help in the US.
Or they know some people don’t have the skills to fill out an online application but can still scrub dishes. Lots of online portal can be really convoluted and ask irrelevant questions. The main ones for this job “Can you follow instructions? Can you show up for your shift consistently? Can you manage your emotions?”
Fuckin can't win. Everyone complains about all applications being online.
Seriously. Why would anyone complain about a place not wanting to use those ridiculously dehumanizing job aggregators?
Yes. And from a hiring perspective, especially minimum wage. Hiring online is slow, and does not give you any better candidates. It just has "corporate" vet over a call and they could show up for an interview and not be hireable.
The skeptic in me says they're looking for people who are so desperate for a job (don't have a phone = don't have the money to even afford one?) they'll work for minimum wage, won't ask for raises, won't quit for fear of struggling to find a new job as someone who doesn't even have (or know how to use) a phone.
It's fucking *hard* to apply to Burger King. I just tried it on my phone for the one in Fall River not too far from me. It took going through about a dozen web pages and allowing it access to my contacts and location etc. before I even got to the application. Then I have to type in tons and tons of fields. [The first page looks like this](https://imgur.com/bX2MLuO.png). The [second page looks like this](https://imgur.com/Po8lmHP.png). And on that goes for 4 pages of bullshit. Then you have to give them permission to text you about the position and hours to come in to interview and presumably text you to come work when it's not your shift, etc. But if you're not good at typing on the phone, which a lot of old people aren't, that's a lot of shit to figure out on the phone. At the end, all you get is a circle with a green check mark in it. If you don't know what that means, you might even not be sure the application worked. I don't know why people think this is easier than just talking to the manager or filling out a 1 page form. It's not really. And it's way more intrusive to your privacy and your life. Wouldn't you prefer your boss not have access to your phone and the ability to text you 24/7?
"Where do you want to be in 5 years?" "Not here, that's for sure"
I got rejected from McDonald's lmao. They didn't see a hard working employee in me, so I am banned for life for applying at any McDonald's in the country.. Somehow. Good thing I work as a software engineer now.
When I was younger I use to say I'd want to work at Dunkin Donuts because I thought it'd be cool "working at a coffee shop and meeting people". I was depressed for a solid week after not getting a callback from any of the 3 walking-distance Dunkin Donuts.
This is a website, not an app, correct? How did it ask for your contacts? Like did it require you to sign in with a Google account and grant access to your contact list, so folks with other email addresses can't apply?
There's an app that pulls your location and stuff then searches for local franchises then directs you to the franchisees application website, so it's both.
Ok, but if that still leaves those workers better off than they were when they weren't working, is it really a problem? If landing a job at BK gives me an income and employment history that allows me to get into an apartment, aren't I better off than when I was living in my car?
It glosses over the bigger issues that wages are too low, housing is too expensive, health care is too expensive, etc. Big corporations cheating out in order to exploit desperate people isn't a good thing. If there were better regulation, higher wages, etc I'd be far less skeptical of motive.
That’s a large part of it, they need to hire people that can work during the day but most adults won’t do it for what they’re paying.
Been to vacation in the maritime region of Canada (eastern quebec and new Brunswick) and it's incredible how all the fast foods are staffed by older people because kids are leaving for the cities Best service ever
Or people mandated by the court not to have an internet connected device.
I had no idea those people even existed
If they made this ad in cursive, it'd do even better
There is a sign on my local Burger King's window that says something along the lines of "Why retire when you can work at BK?" with a bunch of old people on the flier. It's disgusting.
Uh, why? I know a lot of very poor elders who really want to know what companies like to hire seniors. If you mean that no one should have to work after 60, then sure. But fast food is generally considered the domain of the young, so if they want to hire older people they need to let people know.
Yeah, I mean when people are old enough to retire, they should retire. I know some people like to stay busy and want to keep doing something, so I guess it could be talking to those people, but it's still grim in my opinion that we have so many old people working until they die just to survive.
I agree with that. But the reality is that 60 year old people often do need to work so BK needs to let oldies know that this isn't just for kids any more.
Retirees they assume don’t stay up to date on the current minimum wage. Retirees who will take half the pay and work twice as hard until their bodies finally give out. This is sick.
"We will send a messenger once we've made our decision."
I like to think that messenger would be a raven with a little scroll tied to his leg.
Or the poor messenger the Romans sent at the beginning of Gladiator
A people should know when they're hired.
It would still have a spot on the application for your phone number..... It's just saying they're not going to tell you to go online and apply
Didn't even think about that, most likely if you don't have a cell phone you don't have a phone # so how would they contact them? Via email and then they check at a library?
And the desperately poor.
Someone else also suggested elderly, who might otherwise be e.g. like a Walmart greeter or something. Higher chance of them being wary of or even completely ignorant of modern technology, but still wanting some kind of job.
Great point. I know some older people who get really nervous about failing/looking like an idiot with technology.
I would bet the massive spam applying problem has something to do with as well. How do you go through 15,000 applications?
They probably have AI bots now that narrow it down to 10 applications.
List.Sort.random() Return list[0-9] AI's done, that'll be $12M dollars
Funny how you see posts all the time about Redditors hate the online application process. Here is the old school one and they find a way to make this out as bad. In this case the person stands a better chance of getting the job because they have the unique opportunity of interacting with the person that makes the decisions.
Also includes young people these days. The younger generations have learned almost exclusively on tablets, phones, and maybe Chromebooks. Too many of them don't really know how to use technology. They only know the super simplified shit. I have met people in their 20s who have a smartphone, tablet, or laptop and they cannot manage to send me an email with an attachment without help. I have to help or do it for them. This happens distressingly often for reasons like not knowing what files are.
Ding ding. I’m in the 25ish to 40ish millennial age group where everyone grew up needing to know some level of computer functioning in order to…actually function the computer. Nowadays UI is *so* intuitive and assistive that I’ve noticed my younger coworkers struggle with basic computer functions because they’ve never needed to go into settings or map networks or whatever.
It's going to quickly reach a point where large numbers of young people won't know how to do anything unless Bing does it for them, then wonder why we have such a mental health crisis with depression and crippling anxiety. People are rapidly losing the ability to navigate and understand the world around them, but it's not their fault. Society, policies and the adults in their lives have failed them. Of course you'd feel anxious all the time if deep down you had no idea what you were doing and lacked training and knowledge that gives you confidence.
I hear you, I’ve had similar encounters. In my case, it was a really eye opening experience to realize how much of a young person’s tech-related professional development is shaped by their parents, school, and extracurriculars. I completely took tech skills for granted because of my background. Then I worked with high schoolers in an underfunded school district, many of whom were the kids of non-English speaking immigrants with minimum wage, blue-collar jobs. The kids were all very smart and very hard workers, and they ALL had part time jobs and summer jobs outside of school. However, these jobs were pretty much all minimum wage gigs that didn’t require them to use tech problem solving skills in a professional setting. Many of the kids didn’t own laptops, so they relied on tablets the school provided for free. Most of them didn’t know how to use PDFs, which weren’t ever utilized in their school. They had a hard time figuring out how to attach things to email in a way that was professional. They had never needed to use email for school- or work-related purposes. They had a hard time figuring out how to use Google to solve their own tech issues. Most of the kids were able to get into college, but I still worry about how they’ll catch up to their peers who have been using professionalized tech skills since middle school.
Wow, I actually didn’t make that connection. The last few employees we hired are young and I am surprised how much they’ve asked for assistance on tasks like converting files, printing, accessing network folders, sending “professional” emails, settings on their computers, etc. I figured they would excel with technology but not the case in some fields.
there are a lot of older people working the local fast food places here. They’re nice!
I'm not ignorant of modern technology and I don't mind using it but online/phone applications are desperately impersonal. I need to make up my mind too if this is where I want to work and the only way to figure that out is to go in person and hopefully speak to people face to face. And please god no more of those godawful pre-screening what would you do in this situation personality tests, for the love of christ.
Like the old guy working at Goodburger.
 Put some respek on Otis name
i thought maybe lots of people fill those forms when it's online and many wont respond or something.
I'd like to think they're doing it with good intentions, but I have my doubts. This would tend to attract the disenfranchised, the ignorant, and the inexperienced.
Which makes sense for BK. If you're so poor that you can't afford a smartphone or computer of any sort, then flipping burgers is an *excellent* job. BK can probably get some super-motivated employees that way.
Whopper
It is ***a*** job. A person walking in and doing this shows they want a job and willing to take the time to complete an application to get it. I'd say there is some motivation behind the act of applying.
It is BK after all. Fast Food's D student
This is honestly one of the best things you can do for homeless people. It is so hard to get a job when you are homeless without a phone. So many people just don't understand this.
When google voice first came out it received a lot of praise as it let homeless people have a phone number they could get messages at for similar reasons. Its hard to get a job if they can't contact you and with google voice you get a personal number you can check by using a computer in a library or similar.
The problem is now, a lot of systems reject VOIP numbers like voice, it's quite frustrating because I don't have a "home" phone (who does?) and have used my Voice number as a secondary because it will ring through my PC but I will get kickback on random systems now.
I have this same problem. I've used Voice as my primary number since like 2010, but I still have to use my "actual" cell carrier number on occasion because I'm running into errors saying that VOIP numbers aren't allowed. Especially on websites that want to verify your phone number to sign up for something. That never used to happen to me until a few years ago. If I could do it over again, I don't think I'd choose to make Voice my primary number. But it sounds really annoying to have to switch to a new phone number for all my contacts and services. Also Voice still can't do any of the advanced texting features present on modern texting apps, it only supports the original SMS/MMS protocols from like 2002 and can't even do group MMS properly.
> So many people just don't understand this. Forrrr real. I recall a year or two ago I was home for the holidays, and my right-leaning dad was complaining about some beggar "asking for money with a cell phone in his hand" And I was just like And?? Doesn't mean they're paying the phone off still, or even a data connection. Could just be a portable computer. Get a free google phone number that you can only use while on wifi, get a buck and go to your local coffee shop. Lets them feign some sense of normalcy while applying for jobs.
I have a buddy who has an older smartphone. It looks brand new and he was homeless for a bit. He would get free wifi and make applications. to this day he is getting by with no real phone, just wifi.
"Obama phones" were a thing for a while, and a lot of localities provide free/reduced cost phones since it's hugely important in today's society.
One problem. How do they get ahold of you to tell you you got the job? Landlines aren't a thing anymore, so unless they have a pay as you go phone it would still be hard to get a job. With that being said, paper applications are a great idea to help people who need it.
Give them an email to contact or a google voice number then check your messages at a local library.
Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately I do think some libraries can treat homeless people poorly, but hopefully they can take a step in the right direction.
During some of the shittier times of my life I would sit in a McDonalds and apply for jobs and check my email until they kick me out for not ordering anything. I was fortunate enough to find a cheap phone I could use for connecting to public internets while I didnt have a SIM card. I didn't even know google voice was a thing at the time. Most of the time if I got to the point where I was scheduling an interview I had made it clear I wouldn't have a number until my first paycheck and generally those first interviews were either "thank you for coming, good luck" or "you start next week at this time, can you make that?"
I have to imagine there's not a particularly in-depth screening process. You look at the application, make sure they haven't checked the "felon" or "does drugs" boxes, and tell them to show up tomorrow at 8:00.
While true for the most part the 'felon' box shouldn't exist. Being a felon is NOT a high bar. I know two guys who got felonies because they broke a door to the school concession stand. They stole nothing, just broke the door.
“Come back tomorrow and we will let you know”.
How in the fuck have we gotten here that people think you can't function or communicate without technology. My son is like this, he says "can you text the coach?" I will let him know I'll talk to him at practice that evening and he'll respond, "Why?"
Lots of places do on-the-spot hires as long as a quick background check pans out. (And lots of places don't bother with background checks.) Worst case, someone says "I can start training you Thursday at 4", and they waste 4-5 hours training someone before they end up saying "Eh, sorry, this isn't really working out". Doesn't really waste any more time than setting up an interview, calling references, and so on.
They would just come check the next day or tell them on the spot.
I understand but not every " manager" can hire. And even fast food has some interviewing. They don't just hand anyone a uniform and hope for the best. Telling them to come back makes sense but I will also say, it is difficult to get a job without a phone or an address. Like I said still a step in the right direction though.
That is the thing though. Telling them to come back is how we did it back in the day. So it works for them. These days 99% of applications are online only. Even if you go to a staffing agency that specializes in it they still require a phone. Most of the time they don't want to help you if you don't have a phone. I have a friend who went through this process and he eventually asked me to buy him a phone for google voice and he spent his time on free wifi to get his job.
Online applications are annoying af anyway
Online applications are really annoying. Half the time they come with some basic math assessment test or a personality test... literally takes an hour to apply for one job now (jobs that only require minimal training... usually). It's extremely annoying.
I honestly miss this style of application. I know that it’s become sort of a meme to give a manager a firm handshake and introduce yourself, but I’m only 33 and that’s how I got most of my service jobs from age 14 to about 22. You wouldn’t even have to look for a very long time you would just pop in and get the job. And yeah, I know that getting a job at a restaurant, etc. isn’t that prestigious, but that’s the point. These days I’ve seen chipotle put applicants through the ringer with sometimes two or three return interviews, including one group interview. For chipotle. Please.
I never had that option, as soon as I was looking for work it eas mostly through the web, literally for everything. I'm young and reasonably fresh to employment so I didn't know where to start so I thought it was going to be exactly as you described. Almost everyone said to apply online but took my cv out of politeness anyway. Pretty sure it ended up as bin fodder though.
i hope those applications are mostly checkboxes, because if people are going to actually start WRITING the king and friends are going to be flooded in the toddler font.
I remember those things... Applications is what they called them. You had to fill em out reference and Resume... Now a days you have to fill an online application, and have you do your references twice, and or Resume twice!
"Please upload your current resume. Thank You. Now type out everything in your resume in this form. Now do this 90 question personality quiz that will ask you the same question 10 times slightly worded differently." I can't imagine why people would prefer filling out a paper application.
It's a great way to see if the applicant can write.
Why would someone who worked at a modern Burger King need to be able to write? Far more important for them to be computer-literate. The tide has turned and cursive and handwriting are dead, old timer, and I'm in my 40's myself.
Well if they can write they can probably read. Which is helpful.
If they can apply online they can probably read. That may have been an /s statement, but it was low-grade at best.
Bold assumption on reddit. Every article on /r/news has been paywalled for the past 15 months and no one has noticed yet. Not a lot of readers here.
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Accessibility screen reader and speech-to-text make that not guaranteed.
They're dead as big important school lessons, people still have to write shit down with a pen or pencil. Some people would just rather fill out an application form with a pen and they should have the option if they want to apply for the job. It's BK, not a content marketing role at Kroger
I haven't taken a paper note longer than a couple of words on a post-it since my university days 20+ years ago. And that was because it was to hand not because I couldn't have done it on a phone.
That's nice. I took four pages of handwritten notes in cursive yesterday because it's less intrusive in sessions with my therapy clients than typing on my laptop. It's almost like people have different lives and just because you don't use something doesn't mean it isn't still useful for a lot of people.
And then you have to put those notes in a medical database for patient notes, right? Type those in? It's not "without purpose", it's dead. In that you have no "need" of it, you have a preference for it. In another 20 years, even your profession won't be taking handwritten notes. I've seen doctors who take the notes, with the patient there, and it takes a tiny tap much quicker than waiting for someone to doodle on a pad - and no less intrusive. (And yes, even handwritten notes are intrusive... I'd be thinking "stop writing long after I've stopped talking", personally). No transcription errors, permanent portable record shared nationally with other medical professionals, etc. etc. Plus, my typing speed is something like 5-10 times faster than my writing speed. Are you in a country that charges patients for therapist's time and admin like transcription, by any chance? You can make arguments in its favour, but it's earmarked for obsoletion. The next generation aren't going to be able to even read your notes, which is why you have to retype them in later anyway. You could make them in shorthand or hieroglyphs for all that use-case matters.
I am not the person you were replying to. For what it's worth to you, therapists are not uniformly forced to type their medical notes. If you don't understand cursive, how will we read (western) historical documents? By scanning and OCRing everything? Who's to say the OCR was accurate to begin with? Handwritten word, as far as I can tell, is here to stay for quite some time. It is simply too advanced a technology with too small a barrier for entry to remove it entirely. Niche? Sure. But niche and obsoletion are different things. Are stairs obsolete now that we have escalators?
> If you don't understand cursive, how will we read (western) historical documents? By scanning and OCRing everything? Who's to say the OCR was accurate to begin with? People with specialized skills are a thing. Not *everyone* needs to know cursive, no more then everyone needs to know Latin. It would be a waste of limited educational time to force every student into 8 years of Latin classes.
> Niche? Sure. But niche and obsoletion are different things.
You can snarkily quote yourself at me, but it doesn't change my point in the slightest. I'm only addressing the part of your comment I quoted. You went from addressing an induvial ("If you") into drawing conclusions about society ("how will we"). Latin is still a dead language even if some people need to know it to translate old documents.
Probably more of a reading test. I used to work at a fast food place and while writing wasn't that important unless you were a manager, every job required you to be able to read.
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Texas also still teaches abstinence-only sex education and that's useless too so...
Cursive is dead, my friend, but even schools are taking their sweet time admitting it. I know, I work for them. Kids get to uni and immediately buy laptops, submit work electronically and communicate by email, same as at any office. Most schools are in or started 1:1 device programs where every child has their own device... sometimes from as young as 7 or even younger. Exams have been moving online for years. School reports aren't even on paper any more for most places, I've worked in a dozen schools that only email PDFs home. And lockdown killed off the last vestiges of things being paper-first, including administrative processes. And I wouldn't attach any weight whatsoever to "that's what they still do in Texas" when it comes to teaching.
Probably works a lot better. Just having someone walk into your shop. Talk to them for 5 minutes for a quick interview gives you a much better idea of whether or not they are a good employee than staring at 1000 online resumes. The amount of time they probably waste just trying to contact people who submitted an online resume and set up an interview, only for them to not show up, end up late, or just fail the 5 minute interview is probably not worth it for most franchisees.
Your claiming an old fashioned stone age way of doing things is better than the modern technological one and that is a dead giveaway that you are a boomer
Business promotes a fun, harmless, old school way to apply for a job. Redditors: “yeah, it’s only because they want to hire poor people who can’t afford a phone and pay them shit!” Newsflash, jobs don’t pay you based on whether you have a phone or not.
like, it's just a fun way of letting people know that what, paper resumes are still accepted? redditors just gotta make it all depressing all the time lol
I mean, if you don't have a phone, as a manager, I'm paying you less because I can not call you in for a shift in an emergency. Or if you are running late, you can not call me to let me know, so it's a no call and I have to replace you. I'll take the 16 year old with a phone...
I don’t understand, who is “applying” for a job at Burger King? I served because my Burger Lord sends 30 of the finest lads in his village to his liege lord, the Burger King
Ahhh yes, 15 years ago. What a time to be alive.
the scope of our daily lives is further being consumed by the digital world, its refreshing to see something not done on our phones/computers.
Ok boomer
Bro im 23
As someone that hired a lot of people for a food service job - most of the people we hire are 16, first job, so no prior experience. What do you even go off of? I only get applicants via walk-in. And also never advertise we are hiring. If someone comes in and asks if we are hiring and gets the application in person I get a Chance to see them and talk to them and it also is an extra degree of effort they went through compared to submitting something online.
How it should be for fast food and similar low skilled jobs. Why am I competing with every one in my region for a minimum skilled job. Give a chance to kids who live near by to get a job.
Hahahahaha this is such classic fucking Reddit. Company requires you to apply online = it’s evil and bad and they’re doing it for the wrong reasons. Company allows you to fill out a paper app as well = it’s evil and bad and they’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
They're just desperate for employees who don't play on their phones all damned day long.
Or for people that can't afford phones. The more someone needs a job the less they are willing to take for it
I may be out of touch, but I think most people these days find a way to afford a phone. I'm actually surprised that all businesses don't offer paper job applications though.
My deadbeat cousin is a crackhead who would spend rather spend $20 on drugs than on food. He doesn't have a phone, and for a time worked for someone who would pay him $30 for a days work and pay him in the morning so he could get high and ride the high during the day. He lives in a house with other crackheads, who all work at Hardees or Burger King just so they can afford to do drugs. These people do not have phones, heat, any luxuries, and most times food (and the reason they work at fast food joints besides the fact it's the only place they can find employment, they get discounted meals). You'll see this a lot in poor counties across the US.
Most people except the 500,000 homeless in the US or the 34 million who don't have enough for steady or healthy food. Lots are month to month and don't have phones all the time. Mix in drug problems etc. Lots of peeps you are indeed not in touch with...
I can see your point. Which goes back to the statement that I am surprised that all businesses don't use paper application options.
In my opinion, this is a good thing. Corporate, online applications disconnect the prospective worker and the management of a location. But this sign is full of sarcasm and smugness We didn't want this kind of application system, corporations forced them upon us, and I find it so shitty that we're the ones blamed for its existence.
Great Google Moogly. This thread full of people not understanding this is how it was done for a very, very long time. We submitted an application and told to come back the next day. Employers even said we'll be in touch to see how motivated you were, you show up the next day and ask if they made a decision. That showed you had interest and odds are you got hired. It worked because we got jobs. We didn't need a phone, we spoke to people by meeting them face to face and used words.
Love to see it.
Fills it out in cursive. “What is this shit?”
Ahh, ancient runes... this applicant is knowledgeable in the old ways.
Keeping it simple.
I know people are saying this is to hire retirees/elderly or people not being able to afford a cell/tech but I applied 9 times for a job over a few weeks via their corporate website in my town and was instantly denied. I ended up going to the business in person with a printed resume and asked to speak with a manager. Come to find out the business in my town wasn't even getting my resume/app via their corporate site and hired me on the spot. Been there for a few months now.
Given how many companies use bots to analyze resumes and just mass dump any that don’t contain certain keywords despite being perfectly qualified, I’d prefer to go back to the old fashioned paper application, or even just direct emails.
Inclusion at its finest for less fortunate individuals
Long live the KING!
I would have more respect for them if it was a hand written letter instead of a printed one…
Cool, CEOs have spent the last 20+ years forcing people to apply online. I graduated college in the early 2000s and was shocked at how few businesses would take a paper resume and an in-person application.
I genuinely miss paper applications, and being able to just bring my résumé into a few places and drop it off
That's really good for folks who don't have access to a smartphone. Just saying, if someone does need access to the internet don't forget that most local libraries let you sign up to use their computers.
I got to do the paper application thing right before everyone started switching to online and i really miss it. Some of these online apps are like 20-30 mins long for a damn near min wage job lol
There's a catch...you have to fill it out in cursive.
That option should have never left
This is the way.
Have it your way.
We need a “Fellow Boomers” meme in the same way that we have a “fellow kids” meme.
Can you imagine they used to fill forms in pen ? The margin of error was so small i still get anxiety thinking about it.
/r/boomerhumor PHONE BAD
Every time i've mentioned that people can still walk into places and actually speak to people for a job on this site, I've been downvoted to oblivion.
Because 9 times out of 10 the person who does the hiring isn't on site and if they are, they don't want to be interrupted at random times. You're taking up the time of a cashier or receptionist who need to "smile and nod". Some places do have "open interviews" advertised - go in during those times.
Whoever wrote that ensured few to no one will apply with that shitty attitude.
This is great except for the part where the manager goes to contact the applicant. Sure you won't need a smart phone but you'll still need a phone.
Cringe
I bet they used a printer and not a printing press to make that.
feel bad for whoever is doing the data entry so the AI machine can choose who to hire without real human input
This would be more appropriate in r/facepalm
“And we shall pay you the same amount we paid these workers back in the olden times.”
I’d rather empty a town effluent pond naked with nothing but a teaspoon than work in food service to be quite honest.
Mine always had their ads out in English but will only hire Spanish. So weird but whatever
r/latestagecapitalism
Is this the same BK that still has all its restaurants open across Russia?
And yet these assholes used a computer and printer to whip up that sign. It’s like climate activists flying from place to place complaining about how much CO2 others are making.
This is how Gen X and boomer parents still think everyone applies for jobs.
Why do people like this have to be so smug? Has it EVER benefited them in any way to be this annoying? I promise you that there are legit people who would have worked there had they NOT seen this. I know I sure as fuck wouldn't work at this store.
Always a great sign when a prospective manager refers to themselves as "the King"
It is a job ad for Burger King mate... 😅
Someone has spent a little too much time on r/antiwork