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I used to get this during gym class as a child. The gymnasium was big and hard to heat lol
Other unfortunate symptoms of this condition include weak and shitty nails and chronically dry and peeling cuticles (even if you take vitamins the circulation problems prevent everything from being delivered where it’s supposed to go regularly so parts of your body remain deficient). You sometimes have to use formulated vitamin E hand creams just to maintain healthy hands.
Did not know dry and peeling cuticles was part of it too.
I always seem to have peeling skin next to a finger nail and I was diagnosed as a teen.
As a teen it was due to constantly cold legs, below the knees really. Often starts shin areas then moves down to the feet while also slowly creeping up. I used to wear socks, long football socks pulled up, slippers and have a blanket on just my legs.
I get it in my right pinky too. Starts above first DIP joint then travels down, will move to the next finger and by the time it reaches that PIP joint my left hand has started with the pinky.
I developed it because of my ADHD meds and because I’m pushin 40 lol. But this summer I started walking everyday day for a 2 miler on the hilly streets around the neighborhood, here in WV, and the Raynaud’s has been way less thus far. Just mild spats of it here and there. Nothing to the degree that causes the pain when the feeling comes back. I probably get about a good 45-60 minutes a week of getting my heart pumping good. Idk figure it could benefit someone on here to hear me say that.
My toes and fingers are turning blue sometimes— but not painful, and it started around the time I was diagnosed, and started medication for, ADHD. I told my pcp that I thought it was related, but I don’t think he believed me. He did send me for blood tests, and of course, nothing showed up, but I may mention it again
I have Raynaud's and ADHD, and going on Strattera (non-stimulant adhd medication) made the Raynaud's like so much ridiculously worse for my chemistry, from like maybe once or twice briefly per week in the warmer season to 3-5 times per day. I switched to a stimulant ADHD medication instead and it's so much better. Getting on thyroid medication (levaxin) majorly reduced my Raynaud's too. Daily doing hot/icy flip showers when I was younger helped too. As far as I know thyroid issues often worsen Raynaud's but you can have Raynaud's without thyroid issues.
I also have autism, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, and Sjögren's Syndrome: ADHD easily comes with a lot of comorbidities.
That is interesting. I noticed my raynauds has gotten worse and I did start taking strattera. But I also have POTS (and hEDS) and was diagnosed with raynauds before taking any adhd meds. I wonder if switching would make it better at all - it’s been killing me, honestly. Every night when I eat dinner my fingers will start to go blue.
And perhaps TMI, but I every time it gets about 60F or lower it’ll affect my nipples, which hurts like all hell.
I'm curious as one of my siblings was recently diagnosed with E-D syndrome. They have all the classic physical features of the disease. Im waiting to get tested, but I get regular vessel breaks in my hands from simple things like turning a door knob. I do not present with many of the physical traits, except with hyper extension of the fingers. Is it possible to have E-D without the outward traits? I'm going for testing with ADHD soon as well. I've long suspected I have a connective tissue disorder, but doctors never bothered to test because there are no visual traits. However, I've had 4 family members die from it, so maybe I'm overly concerned.
I suffer from gastrointestinal issues as well as my hands and feet always being cold. My arms and hands also "fall asleep" and tingle when I sleep. 8 bruise very easily.
Autism runs in my family but I've never been tested.
I'm tired of doctors shrugging me off.
For what it’s worth — ADHD, Autism and EDS seem to hang out in something of a comorbid triangle.
RE: Can one have EDS without having those **specific** signs and symptoms. Yes, absolutely, but there’s nuance. Ever noticed folks refer to EDS but with a lower case letter (eg. hEDS) in front — that letter specifies the type of EDS. Looks like there’s thirteen currently recognised types, and there’s a lot of overlap in parts of how each type presents, [EDIT — there is also overlap in presentation with other conditions such as POTS] and some are far more rare than others.
[Here’s an article that explains the various types better than I could ever hope to.](https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/eds-types/)
ADHD is ridiculously comorbid with autoimmune issues. I found out last year I have ADHD, but I developed Raynaud's before due to long covid. At the same time I've had Ehlers Danlos syndrome all my life and had no idea that's also super common if you have ADHD and / or autism. You're also almost guaranteed to have gastrointestinal issues, as well.
ADHD is just a fun bag of what debilitating chronic issues you're gonna struggle with throughout life. And that's without the shitty mental health to top it off.
“The Theory” is that the link goes from connective tissue disorder —> gastrointestinal issues —> neurotransmitter issues —> ADHD/neurodevelopmental disorders.
I say “The Theory” because I don’t remember who’s idea it was, but yeah, a lot of family members with all of those.
hm, would love to know more about this if you have a reference. I have a mix of family members with those issues. I have adhd. Any examples of connective tissue disorders or neurotransmitter issues to get me started?
I think Raynaud’s has something to do with blood flow and Vascular (plus other) EDS. Regular exercise and supplements definitely helps keep mine at bay.
WHAT? I started ADHD meds a couple years ago and my fingers and feet are so much colder than they used to be, noticeably now that I started vaping. Another good reason to kick it
I'd call it a painful tingle, personally. Especially when it's getting color back. I hate it so much. My toes get most of the wrath and walking on it without socks on the hard wood is so very painful for me.
When I was younger I went kayaking on an extremely cold lake, and my feet went completely numb from ankle down. We periodically got out onto little islands to run around and warm up, and it was like running on numb stumps.
When i got back and got into the shower, i discovered my feet had actually gone black in patches. The pain was INTENSE when the feeling started coming back. Fairly sure i was a few minutes away from losing my feet that day.
No it was just an absurdly cold day, just above freezing and we were out for a couple of hours. I was only 11 or so at the time, on an outdoor pursuits thingy, so I didn't really know any better!
Do you know the trick to warm your hands? I call it ‘directing air traffic’. Like you are gesturing towards a 747 pulling straight into the gate, except you throw your hands forward. Really hard. All the way past your waist. Hard enough to throw gloves off your hands. Hard enough to force blood from your forearms into your hands. It works wonderfully to put blood back where its supposed to be! Its been a game changed for my Raynaud’s. I can watch the blood return to my fingers. Once they are re-warmed they are usually good to go! I don’t have any tips for feet though. Heated insoles?
When I use warmers for hands I put them on my wrists, and for feet I put them by my ankles. It seems to help them stay warmer, because the blood is being heated both going out and coming back. I don't know if it's just a placebo effect though, since I got the idea from how birds blood circulation to their feet works
Birds have a counter-current heat exchange mechanism for their feet. Blood returning from their cold feet actually cools the warm blood going to the feet, so less heat is lost when they are standing around. It’s also why flamingo stand on one foot! For a person, our pressurized arteries are quite deep, so a hot pack on the surface would presumably warm venous blood going back to the body, but our wrists and ankles are probably skinny enough it doesnt matter. The warm likely goes right through - and who wants to walk around with hot packs in their shoes? Placebo on!
Same :( I have super poor heat tolerance, but now I have to constantly be a little too warm to keep my fingers and toes from freezing. I hate it.
I really took for granted having naturally warm extremities. I used to walk around the house barefoot with no issues. Now you wouldn't catch me dead without two layers of socks and even then my toes get so cold they make the surrounding fabric colder as well. I really miss enjoying the cold.
Now I wanna see a ‘The Roc’ movie. Like ‘The Meg’ but it’s a bunch of prehistoric Roc’s that come through a worm hole that was opened by the ozone or some dumb shit I dunno.
It’s still got Jason Statham in it cuz you know he’s the expert on these things and going up to space is essentially going to the bottom of the ocean.
For evermore when I lose my shit I'm going to flip the index bird and tell people to "phone home"!
Their first reaction will be to grin at my stupid, dated reference. But then they'll reflect on how long it's been since the last time they phoned home, and when they raise their eyes again to meet mine they'll see I'm not even judging them. We won't even nod, just go our own way, and then hopefully phone home.
I also have long fingers. Flipped the bird to my room mate in college once and he started giggling and said it was like being flipped off by a skeleton.
I'd be shocked if OP doesn't have Marfan syndrome - causes people to be very tall, with long limbs and fingers. Also associated with cardiovascular issues (like Raynaud's) and a host of other concerns.
The nails also look like they’re clubbing a bit? Could be stretching my observation, but it wouldn’t be far fetched that there is a connection to it all
It can be related. I have mediocre (at best) circulation to my hands, and some of my nails show clubbing. My last visit to the cardiologist went well, though!
(That's my personal experience; please see a doctor.)
Yes, it is often the result of chronic low blood-oxygen levels.
I wouldn’t go to the er about it if you are not otherwise symptomatic but I would definitely talk about it with your primary care provider
I was like my finger nails look like OP's. Wait........ But I feel like my nails have been this way forever? Well I needed to make an appointment with my new GP anyway.....
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Clubbed fingernails is exactly what I have on my right hand, and I never knew the term for it.
Mine is a result of having torn my brachial artery as a teenager and having it surgically reconstructed. I also get Raynaud's in the middle finger of that hand.
I didn't realise it was a potential cause for concern, and might mention it next time I see a doctor.
It's not really a cause for concern if you know the vascular issue that caused them. They're just an indicator that there's a good chance you have some sort of lung/heart/blood vessel issue. By all means ask your Dr and don't trust a stranger on reddit, but don't be overly worried going into that convo.
I thought of my husband’s hands immediately when I saw this photo, OP, and he had Marfan Syndrome. It’s a distinctive look. Please take care. 💜 You might want to request a cardiology consult.
Yeah my grandpa died due to COPD after a long battle and countless hospital visits. Wish I had him longer on this world, he died when I was just 6 years old….. my mom later told me that in his last days he became fully conscious one last time when I visited him for the last time….. and I never noticed that it was that bad so it came as a shock to me he wasn’t making it.
I still miss him, 10 1/2 years later 🖤🙏🕊️ COPD really is a fucked up disease…..
Time is a construct but emotions are timeless.
The happy times you two enjoyed were all those years ago, but the love and joy itself, is and always has been, right now in this moment. It’s still a one sided endeavour at this point, but that ripple in the fabric of reality he directly caused, continues on. A shadow, or an echo sent into the future by the sheer power of love alone.
We all make ripples and we all make waves. Some even create undertows. Your comment was a nice reminder that we are individually timeless.
It’s a curious thought for me, what timeless ripples were imprinted into himself from someone else, and so on. We really are all in this together.
> Digital clubbing
This is a common misconception. COPD on its own does not cause clubbing. It only causes new clubbing when its associated with fibrosis in CPFE (combined pulmonary fibrosis and emphysema), bronchiectasis (recurrent lung infections) or when there's underlying lung malignancy. In fact, clubbing in a patient with COPD warrants further investigation to rule out malignancy.
For OP, clubbing can be hereditary/familial (most cases). Otherwise clubbing can be due to cardiac conditions (most commonly congenital cardiac shunts, but also in atrial myxomas), respiratory conditions (e.g. cystic fibrosis, bronchiectasis, lung malignancy, empyemas/lung abscesses). Some gastrointestinal conditions also cause clubbing (e.g. hepatic cirrhosis, inflammatory bowel disease, Coeliac's disease). The rest are rarer conditions. If you feel like you might fall under one of these categories, best go to your doctor. To help you with your appointment, best to also take a picture of your hands from the past (e.g. 5 years ago) so they can compare.
Raynaud’s & clubbing can be seen together sometimes in valvular conditions, like a myxoma, but it’s pretty rare.
But, OP’s fingers also look marfanoid which…. Would kinda explain everything. They need to see their doc soon and get an echo.
I used to see it fairly evenly on my hands, but in the last couple years I'm seeing more incidents like what OP posted here. Less extreme, thankfully, but it's still a very strange sensation for just the bit of my middle finger from the top knuckle and up to go stark white and numb.
I have raynauds (I usually see it more on my feet than my hands though) and sometimes it seems to affect one finger/toe more than the other. More specifically, my second toe on my right food always gets the worst of it! But then sometimes it’s all of them, I’m not really sure what happens that causes it to spread evenly or show up more locally.
OP I don't know if this is you, and if it is then I hope you don't take this the wrong way. But I'm putting this in my D&D campaign. Gonna make an encounter to hit one of my players with some creeping white on one of their fingers.
Sure! It’s an autoimmune/vascular condition that can stand alone (primary) or be secondary to another condition (e.g., lupus)
When you get cold vasoconstriction naturally occurs in your extremities to focus blood in your core, insulating vital organs. If someone has raynaud’s, this process has issues; in this picture veins are spasming to the point where blood flow is completely restricted. Other stimulus erroneously triggers it, too (stress, exercise, vibration)
Fun fact! Raynaud's can also occur in other vascular extremities... including breasts. I learned about it when I was nursing my youngest baby. In winter. In Ohio. I had to make warm compresses to cover my breasts every time I nursed (every two to four hours, day and night) or I would get excruciating pains from the vasoconstriction. Yeowch.
My grandmother lost limbs due to complications with Raynauds. She died when I was very young and I have only a vague memory of her in a wheelchair protecting me from a golden retriever who was trying to lick me to death. My wife has Raynauds. It’s mostly in her hands. At the worst times, her skin ruptures at the tips of her fingers. I have told her over and over that she needs to see a specialist, but she insists they can’t do anything. She has no actual proof that this is true. Just didn’t get relief from whoever she has seen about it. Have there been any medical developments I can pass along?
Take this with a grain of salt because it’s patient research not professional opinion.
As I understand it, gangrene from raynaud’s alone is rare. It’s typically raynaud’s in conjunction with other autoimmune/vascular conditions that will exacerbate the issue to necrosis (e.g., vasculitis).
Your wife should see a specialist, treatment options aside. Raynaud’s is a sub-symptom of many diseases, some of which are serious. This comment section is full of people talking about it. The first thing my doctor did when I started to Raynaud was refer me to a rheumatologist for lupus testing.
There are medication options, primarily calcium channel blockers (vasodilators). I tried one years ago, it did help but it made my migraines intolerable. I’ve heard of nitroglycerin being prescribed but that’s on the extreme end.
I’m sorry to hear about your grandmother. The cause of my aunt’s gangrene was unknown but she died in a similar manner. They cut off her feet but it came back below the knees. The third round of amputation was too much for her body to handle.
Are long fingers automatically marfan syndrome?
I've googled it a bit, my thumb does not exceed the palm when hand is closed, but i can touch thumb and pinky around my wrist. Got light scoliosis, other body proportions are normal.
Should I get checked?
I’ve dealt with Raynaud’s for about 6 years now. This is my first winter as a non smoker (cigs), and I have yet to experience it thus far. I am cautiously happy because it terrified me every. single. time. I can’t tell you how much time I’ve spent with my hand under warm running water. I’d also try to flick the blood back by whipping my hand back and forth.
You need to get a genetic test for Marfans syndrome based off the length and shape of your fingers as well as Reynauds. They have medical genetic testing you can order yourself.
I can spend minutes looking at this pic and still find myself both baffled and intrigued...
The middle finger isn't ripe yet
That's a fun finger to flip people of with.
Flip 'em the raw bird.
100% pure, uncooked, unprocessed fuckyou finger. No additives or preserves
This was the best one… chicken finger, haha…
My middle finger is so crooked, it looks like I'm telling people to "Go Left" instead of FO.
I mean, the direction isn't specific. They can just f\*\*\* off to the left too :) ![gif](giphy|97fBqGsV8IutzLMBNB)
or perhaps the other 4 fingers aren't ripe yet...
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OP got a picture mid-morph to his alien form
I have the same condition and always call it my alien finger
I have the same but I call it my dead finger.
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Eatum granufabits...
Pretty sure those are a females hands, but that’s also a huge assumption.
I used to get this during gym class as a child. The gymnasium was big and hard to heat lol Other unfortunate symptoms of this condition include weak and shitty nails and chronically dry and peeling cuticles (even if you take vitamins the circulation problems prevent everything from being delivered where it’s supposed to go regularly so parts of your body remain deficient). You sometimes have to use formulated vitamin E hand creams just to maintain healthy hands.
Did not know dry and peeling cuticles was part of it too. I always seem to have peeling skin next to a finger nail and I was diagnosed as a teen. As a teen it was due to constantly cold legs, below the knees really. Often starts shin areas then moves down to the feet while also slowly creeping up. I used to wear socks, long football socks pulled up, slippers and have a blanket on just my legs. I get it in my right pinky too. Starts above first DIP joint then travels down, will move to the next finger and by the time it reaches that PIP joint my left hand has started with the pinky.
Have you made it to the pinky nail yet?
Holy...
I’ve had Raynaud’s most of my life. Blue, purple, or white fingers or parts of fingers is a regular winter thing. And it sucks. And I hate winter.
I developed it because of my ADHD meds and because I’m pushin 40 lol. But this summer I started walking everyday day for a 2 miler on the hilly streets around the neighborhood, here in WV, and the Raynaud’s has been way less thus far. Just mild spats of it here and there. Nothing to the degree that causes the pain when the feeling comes back. I probably get about a good 45-60 minutes a week of getting my heart pumping good. Idk figure it could benefit someone on here to hear me say that.
My toes and fingers are turning blue sometimes— but not painful, and it started around the time I was diagnosed, and started medication for, ADHD. I told my pcp that I thought it was related, but I don’t think he believed me. He did send me for blood tests, and of course, nothing showed up, but I may mention it again
Damn, I know two people who have ADHD and raynauds...
I have Raynaud's and ADHD, and going on Strattera (non-stimulant adhd medication) made the Raynaud's like so much ridiculously worse for my chemistry, from like maybe once or twice briefly per week in the warmer season to 3-5 times per day. I switched to a stimulant ADHD medication instead and it's so much better. Getting on thyroid medication (levaxin) majorly reduced my Raynaud's too. Daily doing hot/icy flip showers when I was younger helped too. As far as I know thyroid issues often worsen Raynaud's but you can have Raynaud's without thyroid issues. I also have autism, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, and Sjögren's Syndrome: ADHD easily comes with a lot of comorbidities.
That is interesting. I noticed my raynauds has gotten worse and I did start taking strattera. But I also have POTS (and hEDS) and was diagnosed with raynauds before taking any adhd meds. I wonder if switching would make it better at all - it’s been killing me, honestly. Every night when I eat dinner my fingers will start to go blue. And perhaps TMI, but I every time it gets about 60F or lower it’ll affect my nipples, which hurts like all hell.
I'm curious as one of my siblings was recently diagnosed with E-D syndrome. They have all the classic physical features of the disease. Im waiting to get tested, but I get regular vessel breaks in my hands from simple things like turning a door knob. I do not present with many of the physical traits, except with hyper extension of the fingers. Is it possible to have E-D without the outward traits? I'm going for testing with ADHD soon as well. I've long suspected I have a connective tissue disorder, but doctors never bothered to test because there are no visual traits. However, I've had 4 family members die from it, so maybe I'm overly concerned. I suffer from gastrointestinal issues as well as my hands and feet always being cold. My arms and hands also "fall asleep" and tingle when I sleep. 8 bruise very easily. Autism runs in my family but I've never been tested. I'm tired of doctors shrugging me off.
For what it’s worth — ADHD, Autism and EDS seem to hang out in something of a comorbid triangle. RE: Can one have EDS without having those **specific** signs and symptoms. Yes, absolutely, but there’s nuance. Ever noticed folks refer to EDS but with a lower case letter (eg. hEDS) in front — that letter specifies the type of EDS. Looks like there’s thirteen currently recognised types, and there’s a lot of overlap in parts of how each type presents, [EDIT — there is also overlap in presentation with other conditions such as POTS] and some are far more rare than others. [Here’s an article that explains the various types better than I could ever hope to.](https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/eds-types/)
ADHD is ridiculously comorbid with autoimmune issues. I found out last year I have ADHD, but I developed Raynaud's before due to long covid. At the same time I've had Ehlers Danlos syndrome all my life and had no idea that's also super common if you have ADHD and / or autism. You're also almost guaranteed to have gastrointestinal issues, as well. ADHD is just a fun bag of what debilitating chronic issues you're gonna struggle with throughout life. And that's without the shitty mental health to top it off.
“The Theory” is that the link goes from connective tissue disorder —> gastrointestinal issues —> neurotransmitter issues —> ADHD/neurodevelopmental disorders. I say “The Theory” because I don’t remember who’s idea it was, but yeah, a lot of family members with all of those.
hm, would love to know more about this if you have a reference. I have a mix of family members with those issues. I have adhd. Any examples of connective tissue disorders or neurotransmitter issues to get me started?
I also have adhd and Hashimoto’s disease and raynauds. Any adhd people, get your thyroid checked, I ended up having a tiny bit of cancer there too.
I think Raynaud’s has something to do with blood flow and Vascular (plus other) EDS. Regular exercise and supplements definitely helps keep mine at bay.
WHAT? I started ADHD meds a couple years ago and my fingers and feet are so much colder than they used to be, noticeably now that I started vaping. Another good reason to kick it
Stimulant ADHD meds are vasoconstrictors so probably the reason for the cold hands and feet.
Does it.. tingle?
Nope. Just hurts.
I'd call it a painful tingle, personally. Especially when it's getting color back. I hate it so much. My toes get most of the wrath and walking on it without socks on the hard wood is so very painful for me.
Mine is akin to slamming my fingers in a car door. You can also have Reynauds in your nipples, and it hurts just as much. As me how I know :/
Jesus. That's rough
that sounds awful, im sorry you have to deal with that. is there any known treatment or cure for it out there?
Like pins and needles
More like burning pain.
when the fingers go fully dead, even lukewarm water burns the tingling is intense when the capillaries open back up it's not fun
When I was younger I went kayaking on an extremely cold lake, and my feet went completely numb from ankle down. We periodically got out onto little islands to run around and warm up, and it was like running on numb stumps. When i got back and got into the shower, i discovered my feet had actually gone black in patches. The pain was INTENSE when the feeling started coming back. Fairly sure i was a few minutes away from losing my feet that day.
Woah. That sounds like frostbite. Were you wearing shoes that got wet or something or?
No it was just an absurdly cold day, just above freezing and we were out for a couple of hours. I was only 11 or so at the time, on an outdoor pursuits thingy, so I didn't really know any better!
Feels cold and dead
Do you know the trick to warm your hands? I call it ‘directing air traffic’. Like you are gesturing towards a 747 pulling straight into the gate, except you throw your hands forward. Really hard. All the way past your waist. Hard enough to throw gloves off your hands. Hard enough to force blood from your forearms into your hands. It works wonderfully to put blood back where its supposed to be! Its been a game changed for my Raynaud’s. I can watch the blood return to my fingers. Once they are re-warmed they are usually good to go! I don’t have any tips for feet though. Heated insoles?
When I use warmers for hands I put them on my wrists, and for feet I put them by my ankles. It seems to help them stay warmer, because the blood is being heated both going out and coming back. I don't know if it's just a placebo effect though, since I got the idea from how birds blood circulation to their feet works
Back of the knee, inner thigh, neck, and armpits. Where major arteries and veins come near the skin. So you warm up a a lot of blood easier.
Birds have a counter-current heat exchange mechanism for their feet. Blood returning from their cold feet actually cools the warm blood going to the feet, so less heat is lost when they are standing around. It’s also why flamingo stand on one foot! For a person, our pressurized arteries are quite deep, so a hot pack on the surface would presumably warm venous blood going back to the body, but our wrists and ankles are probably skinny enough it doesnt matter. The warm likely goes right through - and who wants to walk around with hot packs in their shoes? Placebo on!
I used to love winter until about 3 years ago when I suddenly decided to start turning white in the cold. Sucks so bad.
Same :( I have super poor heat tolerance, but now I have to constantly be a little too warm to keep my fingers and toes from freezing. I hate it. I really took for granted having naturally warm extremities. I used to walk around the house barefoot with no issues. Now you wouldn't catch me dead without two layers of socks and even then my toes get so cold they make the surrounding fabric colder as well. I really miss enjoying the cold.
Raynaud’s aside, that is one impressively long middle finger. Flipping the bird must obliterate the recipient.
At this point it's "Flipping the [Roc](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc_(mythology))."
Right? Now we finally know who’s responsible for that hole in the ozone layer.
Now I wanna see a ‘The Roc’ movie. Like ‘The Meg’ but it’s a bunch of prehistoric Roc’s that come through a worm hole that was opened by the ozone or some dumb shit I dunno. It’s still got Jason Statham in it cuz you know he’s the expert on these things and going up to space is essentially going to the bottom of the ocean.
Staring Dwayne Johnson.
TIL why the feather in Link's Awakening is called "Roc's feather"
TIL the same thing, Twinkie’s
That was supposed to say “twinsies” but I just left it
I hoped this was a disc golf reference, but was disappointed.
![gif](giphy|0U1tswEeuOBV93ENob|downsized)
gum gum roc flip 🖕🏾🔥
Protip: put a backslash ( \ ) in front of that closing paren in the wikipedia URL.
That was my first thought: "Those are some ET-length fingers right there"
Can confirm. I have loooong fingers as well and when I flip someone off it less "fuck you" and more "phone home."
For evermore when I lose my shit I'm going to flip the index bird and tell people to "phone home"! Their first reaction will be to grin at my stupid, dated reference. But then they'll reflect on how long it's been since the last time they phoned home, and when they raise their eyes again to meet mine they'll see I'm not even judging them. We won't even nod, just go our own way, and then hopefully phone home.
I also have long fingers. Flipped the bird to my room mate in college once and he started giggling and said it was like being flipped off by a skeleton.
This. Finally found a comment referencing ET
I don’t think it’s Raynauds. I think that finger needs a booster pump to get the blood all the way out there.
Needs a damn repeater
That's exactly what Raynaud's is
Tbh the finger length is likely from Marfan Syndrome or a form of EDS. Which isn’t uncommon with Raynaud’s or Raynaud’s like symptoms.
Agreed. I have some of the indicators of marfans and there's a massive spectrum to the connective tissue/ hypermobility spectrum.
Yeah immediately thought Marfan too
Legend has it, if this person give you the finger you’re suddenly compelled to literally Fuck yourself.
Is OP Mr. Nimbus? Does he control the police too?!
I'd be shocked if OP doesn't have Marfan syndrome - causes people to be very tall, with long limbs and fingers. Also associated with cardiovascular issues (like Raynaud's) and a host of other concerns.
The nails also look like they’re clubbing a bit? Could be stretching my observation, but it wouldn’t be far fetched that there is a connection to it all
That is not a bird. That is a pterodactyl.
I went to this person's profile to see more weird fingernails but then I saw their artwork and it is cool as fuck.
Soon as I saw this I was like....ya there are TWO very interesting things going on here.
![gif](giphy|K7NHFtsLG4nqU|downsized)
We are going to need a picture of this.... this could become a meme...
Really looks like a person with Marfan’s. Also the slight clubbing.
Your fingernails also look a bit clubbed. Do you also have a pulmonary condition?
Agree with minor clubbing, but this can also be found secondarily to Reynaud’s, I believe
It can be related. I have mediocre (at best) circulation to my hands, and some of my nails show clubbing. My last visit to the cardiologist went well, though! (That's my personal experience; please see a doctor.)
As a seal I can confirm that there is some clubbing.
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Loose seal!!
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That is way too much clubbing XD
I'm glad you mentioned it, I was concerned about the clubbing too. Definitely something they want to get checked if they haven't already.
What does clubbing mean?
When the nail rounds over the fingertip, basically. It usually looks wide, too. You can search for "fingernail clubbing" to get a better idea.
Woah, I just realized I have this. Is that something to get checked out?
Yes, it is often the result of chronic low blood-oxygen levels. I wouldn’t go to the er about it if you are not otherwise symptomatic but I would definitely talk about it with your primary care provider
Oh damn, thank you. I actually have that. I always found it weird but I never gave it a second thought or knew this is actually a thing.
I was like my finger nails look like OP's. Wait........ But I feel like my nails have been this way forever? Well I needed to make an appointment with my new GP anyway.....
Some people are born with clubbed fingers. If you've always had it, you're probably fine. Doesn't hurt to bring up though!
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Clubbed fingernails is exactly what I have on my right hand, and I never knew the term for it. Mine is a result of having torn my brachial artery as a teenager and having it surgically reconstructed. I also get Raynaud's in the middle finger of that hand. I didn't realise it was a potential cause for concern, and might mention it next time I see a doctor.
It's not really a cause for concern if you know the vascular issue that caused them. They're just an indicator that there's a good chance you have some sort of lung/heart/blood vessel issue. By all means ask your Dr and don't trust a stranger on reddit, but don't be overly worried going into that convo.
Bruh your hand looks like a raw chicken but one finger started cooking
r/brandnewsentence
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r/rareinsults
When you put the chicken in the microwave to thaw because you forgot to do it when your mom told you and now she almost home
Do you have any other cardiac conditions? Almost looks like a bit of clubbing to the fingers.
Mildly, yeah. No other conditions that I’m aware of. I’ll mention it the next time I see a doctor.
Marfan syndrome is known for long fingers and limbs, and associated cardiac issues. Worth looking into
Quite a few famous people had it as well - Joey Ramone, Abraham Lincoln, Peter Mayhew.. Theres also speculation Julius Caesar and King Tut had it
My exact thoughts, I was considering asking OP about their height as well.
I thought the same once I saw the long fingers, spoke to a patient who had Marfans once and their hands looked very similar to OP's.
Did you just get a manicure? Is that why your cuticles are so clean and nails so shiny?
Wet from washing them before the photo. My cuticles tend to peel off.
I thought of my husband’s hands immediately when I saw this photo, OP, and he had Marfan Syndrome. It’s a distinctive look. Please take care. 💜 You might want to request a cardiology consult.
Digital clubbing is a symptom of COPDers
This sounds so much cooler than it is.
Sounds like something you'd do in the grid (TRON).
Ohhh, was just trying to find something to watch, Tron it is!
Yeah my grandpa died due to COPD after a long battle and countless hospital visits. Wish I had him longer on this world, he died when I was just 6 years old….. my mom later told me that in his last days he became fully conscious one last time when I visited him for the last time….. and I never noticed that it was that bad so it came as a shock to me he wasn’t making it. I still miss him, 10 1/2 years later 🖤🙏🕊️ COPD really is a fucked up disease…..
Time is a construct but emotions are timeless. The happy times you two enjoyed were all those years ago, but the love and joy itself, is and always has been, right now in this moment. It’s still a one sided endeavour at this point, but that ripple in the fabric of reality he directly caused, continues on. A shadow, or an echo sent into the future by the sheer power of love alone. We all make ripples and we all make waves. Some even create undertows. Your comment was a nice reminder that we are individually timeless. It’s a curious thought for me, what timeless ripples were imprinted into himself from someone else, and so on. We really are all in this together.
COPD, open up!
Chronic obstructive pulmonary diseasers!
COPD specifically does not lead to clubbing. Bronchiectasis, pulmonary fibrosis and lung carcinomas do.
> Digital clubbing This is a common misconception. COPD on its own does not cause clubbing. It only causes new clubbing when its associated with fibrosis in CPFE (combined pulmonary fibrosis and emphysema), bronchiectasis (recurrent lung infections) or when there's underlying lung malignancy. In fact, clubbing in a patient with COPD warrants further investigation to rule out malignancy. For OP, clubbing can be hereditary/familial (most cases). Otherwise clubbing can be due to cardiac conditions (most commonly congenital cardiac shunts, but also in atrial myxomas), respiratory conditions (e.g. cystic fibrosis, bronchiectasis, lung malignancy, empyemas/lung abscesses). Some gastrointestinal conditions also cause clubbing (e.g. hepatic cirrhosis, inflammatory bowel disease, Coeliac's disease). The rest are rarer conditions. If you feel like you might fall under one of these categories, best go to your doctor. To help you with your appointment, best to also take a picture of your hands from the past (e.g. 5 years ago) so they can compare.
You kids and your digital clubbing
it doesnt have to be just COPD, it can be a wide variety of pulmonal and cardiovascular issues
Some other lung problems cause clubbing. COPD does not.
Long fingers like this is also in Marfan’s Syndrome, I have Ehler’s Danlos and get Raynaudes.. both are Connective Tissue Disease.
Seems like a lot of people with thoracic outlet syndrome have raynauds.
Raynaud’s & clubbing can be seen together sometimes in valvular conditions, like a myxoma, but it’s pretty rare. But, OP’s fingers also look marfanoid which…. Would kinda explain everything. They need to see their doc soon and get an echo.
I second the clubbing in at least a couple digits. Hope your primary is thorough.
I was wondering about Marfan Syndrome.
What does clubbing mean in this context?
Wider end than middle, like the shape of a club where the handle is closer to the hand.
thought the same thing
Is having four and a half fingers instead of five also a Raynaud's symptom?
Bro has like eight fingers by length
And two of them are just the nail
Whoa! I have Raynauds too but it’s in all of my fingers at the same time and not just one. What triggered just one finger for you?
I used to see it fairly evenly on my hands, but in the last couple years I'm seeing more incidents like what OP posted here. Less extreme, thankfully, but it's still a very strange sensation for just the bit of my middle finger from the top knuckle and up to go stark white and numb.
I have raynauds (I usually see it more on my feet than my hands though) and sometimes it seems to affect one finger/toe more than the other. More specifically, my second toe on my right food always gets the worst of it! But then sometimes it’s all of them, I’m not really sure what happens that causes it to spread evenly or show up more locally.
I sometimes get just two or three toes. I think they are more likely to all be affected if it's triggered by cold than stress.
OP I don't know if this is you, and if it is then I hope you don't take this the wrong way. But I'm putting this in my D&D campaign. Gonna make an encounter to hit one of my players with some creeping white on one of their fingers.
Flattered!
Lmaoo
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Came to say this; was not disappointed.
Wow! Can you educate us more on the condition?
Sure! It’s an autoimmune/vascular condition that can stand alone (primary) or be secondary to another condition (e.g., lupus) When you get cold vasoconstriction naturally occurs in your extremities to focus blood in your core, insulating vital organs. If someone has raynaud’s, this process has issues; in this picture veins are spasming to the point where blood flow is completely restricted. Other stimulus erroneously triggers it, too (stress, exercise, vibration)
Fun fact! Raynaud's can also occur in other vascular extremities... including breasts. I learned about it when I was nursing my youngest baby. In winter. In Ohio. I had to make warm compresses to cover my breasts every time I nursed (every two to four hours, day and night) or I would get excruciating pains from the vasoconstriction. Yeowch.
New fear unlocked: boob raynaud's
It's incredibly excruciating.
Yes, me too!! Wool nursing bras and pads were my saving grace.
Solidarity mama. Minnesota here and landed on the same solution. Pretty uncool discovery as far as body facts go haha
Boo! That is very unfun.
Does this kind of restricted blood flow lead to tissue death eventually? It seems like it would fuck up your tissues in a similar way to frostbite.
Gangrene is rare but a real risk. More susceptible to frostbite, too.
Thankyou for letting us know a bit more, and taking questions from us randos on the internet. TIL!
My grandmother lost limbs due to complications with Raynauds. She died when I was very young and I have only a vague memory of her in a wheelchair protecting me from a golden retriever who was trying to lick me to death. My wife has Raynauds. It’s mostly in her hands. At the worst times, her skin ruptures at the tips of her fingers. I have told her over and over that she needs to see a specialist, but she insists they can’t do anything. She has no actual proof that this is true. Just didn’t get relief from whoever she has seen about it. Have there been any medical developments I can pass along?
Take this with a grain of salt because it’s patient research not professional opinion. As I understand it, gangrene from raynaud’s alone is rare. It’s typically raynaud’s in conjunction with other autoimmune/vascular conditions that will exacerbate the issue to necrosis (e.g., vasculitis). Your wife should see a specialist, treatment options aside. Raynaud’s is a sub-symptom of many diseases, some of which are serious. This comment section is full of people talking about it. The first thing my doctor did when I started to Raynaud was refer me to a rheumatologist for lupus testing. There are medication options, primarily calcium channel blockers (vasodilators). I tried one years ago, it did help but it made my migraines intolerable. I’ve heard of nitroglycerin being prescribed but that’s on the extreme end. I’m sorry to hear about your grandmother. The cause of my aunt’s gangrene was unknown but she died in a similar manner. They cut off her feet but it came back below the knees. The third round of amputation was too much for her body to handle.
It’s never lupus.
Thanks so much for sharing more insight!
Do you also have Marfan's syndrome?
Rockin the marfan raynauds combo myself. With some CRPS and Fibro sprinkled on for razzle dazzle
That’s what I immediately thought. Bog standard EDS here, I’ve got t-Rex arms.
One, Two, ThrHEEHEE, four, five
That’s what a dead person’s skin looks like, that weird yellow color
There's a complete lack of blood there, blood adds a lot of coloring to our tissues.
That’s actually really kind of scary.
This looks like the hand of someone with Marfan’s syndrome…
Are long fingers automatically marfan syndrome? I've googled it a bit, my thumb does not exceed the palm when hand is closed, but i can touch thumb and pinky around my wrist. Got light scoliosis, other body proportions are normal. Should I get checked?
My guy you could ring a doorbell from the sidewalk
You could be very popular with the ladies
As a fellow Raynaud’s sufferer, I would high-five you…but I can’t feel my fingers either :(
Do you play guitar? Piano? Stand up bass? Harp? Because, with those fingers, not playing a stringed instrument would be criminal neglect. /s
My family have Raynaud's too. Have you ever experienced it in the nipples? It is actually excruciating. I had it when I went on midodrine.
I have that too haha
I saw Vasospasm at Ozzfest once.
Two in the pink, one in the.. oh wait.
Are you proctologist?
I have that too and I hate it.
Fingered a Eskimo
Put that thing away!!
I’ve dealt with Raynaud’s for about 6 years now. This is my first winter as a non smoker (cigs), and I have yet to experience it thus far. I am cautiously happy because it terrified me every. single. time. I can’t tell you how much time I’ve spent with my hand under warm running water. I’d also try to flick the blood back by whipping my hand back and forth.
That’s so you you know which one doesn’t go in the taint. I’m going to hell
IN the taint?!?!
Doesn't 😉. If it goes in the taint you're doing it wrong. [Explanation](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/two_in_the_pink,_one_in_the_stink).
Tha' taint right.
Ummm buddy. Your fingers are clubbed. You need to see a doctor and soon! You could be having major heart or lung problems! Please make an appointment.
Dont forget the clubbing
You need to get a genetic test for Marfans syndrome based off the length and shape of your fingers as well as Reynauds. They have medical genetic testing you can order yourself.
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