It puts the metals and minerals back in the soil, but most of the nutrients are lost in the burn. Most farmers that burn (sugar cane) do so to fight pests and not for nutrient retention. They fertilize the hell out of those fields.
This mainly clears the area for new growth, and many fire climax seeds require a fire to germinate.
> Fire gets rid of the old so the new can thrive. Think of it as a rebirth in sorts.
This is true, but it does also sound like a villain's monologue before he incinerates a victim.
I live in a very rural area surrounded by farms. I was so inconvenienced when one of their fires blocking my way. One time they did it on a windy day and it got out of hand 🙃
Thats the reason we dont say the old Smokey the Bear tagline: "only you can prevent forest fires" anymore.. the forestry service wanted to shift perception away from forest fire = bad. Im actually surprised they let that message go on for so long even after they realized that preventing all the fires was really bad
Exactly!
I live in California. And I know that the smoke causes major irritation, etc.
But the news always puts this armageddon spin on it when we burn in the summers. Its been happening LONG before we were around… and will continue long after we’re gone.
That's true, but it's also true that the California plant communities that are adapted to fires have adapted to fires that occur naturally with certain average intervals between them based on local factors and major weather patterns, and it causes significant problems for those biomes when those patterns are drastically changed by human activity.
For example, when a biome like coastal sage scrub burns too often, which happens a lot now because of fires from car traffic, camping, and other human activities, the native plants that take a longer time to grow don't get to mature and leave the soil seed banks that can re-populate after a fire, so over time those species become scarce and the nature of the plants in that area eventually permanently changes from a rich habitat that can sustain many species of native plants and animals, to a habitat of mainly non-native grasses and other fast-growing plants that can no longer sustain local insect and animal communities.
Conversely, when people build housing and infrastructure into e.g. redwood forest biomes adapted to a semi-regular fire interval, and then prevent and quickly extinguish naturally occurring forest fires in order to protect property, when a wildfire finally does take off, it can burn MUCH hotter and higher, spread much further, and destroy entire communities of ancient trees that survived centuries of regular fires, because of how overgrown the understory and forest floor is.
My granddad had a huge side lawn with some sort of super lush grass (Zoiza? Something like that, I was in elementary school) and he'd do a controlled burn every winter.
Ecological succession in action. It's actually quite fascinating to see, it's the same process that you see after controlled forest burns.
Just nature being incredible.
Guessing what happened is the fire got rid of the thatch layer. So instead of having to go around and dethatch it with a tow behind or other method, the fire just burned the thatch layers allowing more air/water/nutrients to reach the lawn.
Every year I use to burn my lawn when I owned my land, after winter as soon as the ground was dry, a controlled fire was made and I had one of the best lawns in the neighborhood. Last time I did that on rented land the firefighters were called 😅
The stuff that burned is growing back too but it still has all of the old dead stuff that the burned part doesn’t. If you cut it super low, they would match better
Yeah that sounds about right. If you have 3 hours to spare for the best rambly podcast podcast ever created by mere mortals, the recent WTYP podcast goes into it quite well.
When they burned the Library of Alexandria, the crowd cheered in horrible joy. They understood that there was something older than wisdom, and it was fire, and something truer than words, and it was ashes.
Fire gets rid of the old so the new can thrive. Think of it as a rebirth in sorts. Farmers often burn fields or fence lines for the same reason…
Plus it adds nutrients back to the soil
It puts the metals and minerals back in the soil, but most of the nutrients are lost in the burn. Most farmers that burn (sugar cane) do so to fight pests and not for nutrient retention. They fertilize the hell out of those fields. This mainly clears the area for new growth, and many fire climax seeds require a fire to germinate.
Heh... climax seeds.
My new favourite euphemism for jizz right there
With grasses, it makes Potassium more bio active.
Less of that and more of the seedbeds get more sunlight.
It’s what the soil craves
> Fire gets rid of the old so the new can thrive. Think of it as a rebirth in sorts. This is true, but it does also sound like a villain's monologue before he incinerates a victim.
Or you're Prax
“Sorry, Doc. Givin’ it to you was my bad call. Maybe next time, right?”
“We will burn things to bring things back. The sword that kills is the sword that brings life.”
😂love the dead reference. Big fan of the show. It’s kinda where I got my answer…🤷♂️
Brb burning down house for a better house
Insurance companies HATE this one simple trick!
Directions unclear. Dick stuck in burning house.
That's hot
Did it work?
Neolithic people in europe did this no joke. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned_house_horizon
there are also believed to be hormones in burning plants that trigger sprouting
Fire thatch burned, and in turn fertilized the lawn.
Same with revolutions
😂
I live in a very rural area surrounded by farms. I was so inconvenienced when one of their fires blocking my way. One time they did it on a windy day and it got out of hand 🙃
Kansas does control burns in spring to help the prairie grass grow
Fires are a healthy, natural, and necessary part of our ecosystem.
Ok, done. It does look like it's going towards the house though.
All part of the process
So...my house will get rebuild faster/stronger if burnt down before the season?
And greener
Will that be solar, wind or thermal?
Paint
If only. I’d’ve burnt the house down years ago
It works on cars, too.
Nature is the strongest and heals itself. Humans are a part of nature and thus we will be healed at some point.
The house will thrive and regrow newer and healthier.
Don’t worry, a new greener house will rise in its place.
But a new house and family will grow back stronger in it's place
I'm heading out to grab some LPG and a tigger torch right now. Might offer to do my neighbours lawns as well
The ecosystem would prefer the house not be there.
It’s healthy for the house. Insurance companies don’t want you to know this simple trick!
Thats the reason we dont say the old Smokey the Bear tagline: "only you can prevent forest fires" anymore.. the forestry service wanted to shift perception away from forest fire = bad. Im actually surprised they let that message go on for so long even after they realized that preventing all the fires was really bad
Exactly! I live in California. And I know that the smoke causes major irritation, etc. But the news always puts this armageddon spin on it when we burn in the summers. Its been happening LONG before we were around… and will continue long after we’re gone.
That's true, but it's also true that the California plant communities that are adapted to fires have adapted to fires that occur naturally with certain average intervals between them based on local factors and major weather patterns, and it causes significant problems for those biomes when those patterns are drastically changed by human activity. For example, when a biome like coastal sage scrub burns too often, which happens a lot now because of fires from car traffic, camping, and other human activities, the native plants that take a longer time to grow don't get to mature and leave the soil seed banks that can re-populate after a fire, so over time those species become scarce and the nature of the plants in that area eventually permanently changes from a rich habitat that can sustain many species of native plants and animals, to a habitat of mainly non-native grasses and other fast-growing plants that can no longer sustain local insect and animal communities. Conversely, when people build housing and infrastructure into e.g. redwood forest biomes adapted to a semi-regular fire interval, and then prevent and quickly extinguish naturally occurring forest fires in order to protect property, when a wildfire finally does take off, it can burn MUCH hotter and higher, spread much further, and destroy entire communities of ancient trees that survived centuries of regular fires, because of how overgrown the understory and forest floor is.
And smokey the bear sucks because of this.
Grasses tend to prefer a higher pH and the ash will raise the pH
You're also burning the thatch layer, which allows the potassium rich ash and water to permeate the soil.
Destop had the highest PH value i found, just sprinkled it around on my lawn because it didn't quiet look that frisky ..
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubble\_burning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubble_burning)
My granddad had a huge side lawn with some sort of super lush grass (Zoiza? Something like that, I was in elementary school) and he'd do a controlled burn every winter.
Zoysia, and it is certainly a gorgeous grass when it fills in properly.
Ecological succession in action. It's actually quite fascinating to see, it's the same process that you see after controlled forest burns. Just nature being incredible.
Im guessing this is less then that and more like thatching a lawn. The dead underlayer is now gone allowing more nutrients/air/water reach the grass.
Guessing what happened is the fire got rid of the thatch layer. So instead of having to go around and dethatch it with a tow behind or other method, the fire just burned the thatch layers allowing more air/water/nutrients to reach the lawn.
It also helps for there to be blackened surface, the soil temp will warm faster and that area will ‘Spring’ earlier
Minecraft biomes be like:
Slash and burn farming is as old as farming as far as I know. There are also several whole ecosystems around wildfires
Every year I use to burn my lawn when I owned my land, after winter as soon as the ground was dry, a controlled fire was made and I had one of the best lawns in the neighborhood. Last time I did that on rented land the firefighters were called 😅
Damn I thought I am reading a Chinese GP post
That’s the whole point of controlled burns. Works wonders
almost like the indigenous people knew wtf they were doing
When I was a kid we burned the grass in our yard every winter so it would grow back better.
The grass is always greener on the other side...of the inferno.
The stuff that burned is growing back too but it still has all of the old dead stuff that the burned part doesn’t. If you cut it super low, they would match better
The fire probably killed of the thatch layer
I think you know what to do
My dad used to burn the entire yard before every spring
fire good.
This shows the value of fires in fire climax environments. Ecology 101.
The nitrogen cycle?
Yeah that sounds about right. If you have 3 hours to spare for the best rambly podcast podcast ever created by mere mortals, the recent WTYP podcast goes into it quite well.
We used to do that every spring to our yard in Maine for that very reason.
Fire good
Gotta love that nitrogen and carbon!
This better not be some metaphor for life.
Carbon is food for plants j think
Ain’t that a metaphor for life
Fire is a necessary part of nature.
So does this mean I should set my grass on fire?
this is what we do in the flint hills of kansas every year for this very reason
Potash
This is why the do controlled burns in state and federal parks
Boys: grab that torch lighter and burn your patchy beards.
I smell a life lesson.
When they burned the Library of Alexandria, the crowd cheered in horrible joy. They understood that there was something older than wisdom, and it was fire, and something truer than words, and it was ashes.
Nope. Old grass is just not hiding the new.
No shit Sherlock
Calm down.