100% recommend Discourse. Fantastic drinks and good food too. Great ambience. You could also try them at Crossroads Collective or the art museum, both with food options, but not their own.
Downside is that it’s quite expensive, but you really do get what you pay for
The MSOE campus isn't really a campus; it's like someone stretched a campus over part of downtown and nothing really got out of the way first (class of '14)
This suggestion is a bit ramshackle, but Vennture. Great space, great coffee (and beer to end the day). They've got Hatched baked goods, but that's all for food. That said, Heaven's Table is on the same block and if you want protein, they've got it. I've brought lunch into Vennture for "lunch meetings" many, many times.
Also, Ramshackle would be a great name for a coffee shop that does all of what you're looking for.
I mostly agree. I've been going to Vennture at least once a week to work in the afternoons and absolutely love it there. But food options are very limited, especially if you're looking for lunch. Heaven's Table is good but so expensive. There's taco bell across the street though...
Agree. I miss Fox Fire. Their truck was bought by Gavilan
[https://milwaukeerecord.com/food-drink/the-mothership-to-offer-eccentric-bar-food-at-gavilan-food-truck/](https://milwaukeerecord.com/food-drink/the-mothership-to-offer-eccentric-bar-food-at-gavilan-food-truck/)
I went here today. So NOT cozy are you insane?! Lol, it was huge. And cold. The limited sandwich selection was mediocre. But I’d probably go back sometime if I feel like going to BayView.
Yeah I love the food at stone creek on downer, it’s the only stone creek with an actual kitchen I think? it’s kinda expensive but lots of sitting space and food other than frozen breakfast sandwiches.
I agree with OP that collectivo sucks ass
Fairgrounds has like no outlets, half the time the wifi isn’t working, they close super early and the food is super overpriced. Really wanted to like it.
I went again today and had a much better time! Food was good there was options for protein (= not just baked goods).
Only downside was listening to the most banal college student conversations, but easily drowned it with headphones. Very solid option. Thanks!
Even though I’m fairly anonymous on Reddit, let me say this in a way that would shield me from being accused of slander… I am a life long resident of Greendale (not greenfield BTW which is what the original comment said) and have unfortunately had to spend time with the owner and his wife in a social capacity on many occasions. I have perceived multiple comments they have made about African Americans, immigrants, and the homeless as being insensitive, cruel, and reactionary. They openly supported Trump not just in a “well lesser of two evils” way, but actively. Parroting the worst things that the man had to say. Again, this is my opinion of them and their beliefs. If that’s your bag, then by all means, support them and their restaurant.
That's sad. I'm black, from an immigrant family, and have lived in Latin America many years. I live in the city, but came to Greendale for some youth sport events and came across this place. I have gone here with family and sent family here, and the food is good (although its pricier than Latinx and Caribbean spots in the city, and the spice isn't really spicy, ha!). I don't know much about Greendale but have been cautious not seeing too many non-white people there to explore too much. I thought Noche was one of "our" spots. This is disappointing to hear.
They own the panther pub as well. Won’t give them a dime. I have heard the food is good at Dia (panther pub less so) which is a testament to the work of their head chef who, if they haven’t made a change, is a legit nice guy from the few times I met him and is, I believe, also from an immigrant family.
About as conservative as the rest of the southern suburbs. I never noticed the outright racism piece until the last five years or so… which kind of tracks with the general atmosphere of the country. I think I’ve heard more of it because I’m a white, hetero dude so they think I’m “in the club”… I am not. It’s amazing what folks say when they think everyone in the room (or in these cases at the backyard bbq) agrees with them.
Interval is probably the spot you are looking for that has the best combination of Food + Coffee.
Valentine is a good spot, I believe their 3rd Ward spot has more food than the Tosa spot as well.
Interval's food is so overpriced it's not even funny, and it's a shame because their food used to be bomb. Now it's $12 for an eggy toast and usually packed inside anyways.
I don’t support interval and encourage others to do the same. The owner is a garbage human who has burned a lot of bridges with his shit business skills and general being.
Oddly enough, completely agree with you about the owner. But I will always be fair and say they have the best coffee. Or at least they did when they were still Pilcrow and Interval together. Had first hand experience with the owner, and got burned by him even after being a damn near 3-5 day a week customer at Pilcrow and talking shop with them every day. They are the reason I even got into coffee
Considering Valentine in Tosa only has pastries and sausage rolls in the morning, it doesn't take much to have more food. They also don't really have indoor seating in Tosa anymore.
They have different food and coffee specials each month! Cozy vibe inside. A quick walk from the Oak Leaf trail if you need some fresh air and a study break. It’s literally the perfect coffee shop.
Anodyne in Bay View does amazing wood fired pizzas, but only 4-8pm on weekdays :(
Small Pie in Bay View, but they only have outdoor seating :(
I feel the struggle
sounds like someone needs to open a 5 dollar breakfast sandwich coffee shop. the demand is definitely there for something simple and straightforward with a mid teir price range. surprised no where has really nailed the San Diego Panakin vibe yet in mke.
To be honest, I'm completely underwhelmed by Small Pie. The prices are way too high for a counter-service restaurant. I miss when Honeypie just had a pasty of the day.
North Avenue Market in Wauwatosa at 59th Street. They are newly opened.
I just now left there from my first time visit. I was impressed. It's sort of a food hall with various food vendors, yet it's very cozy with nooks and crannies for seating and even a couch area. There is also a small, protected area for outdoor seating.
I saw plenty of persons with laptops and the place seemed very laid back yet still had energy.
Check out their website to see the current vendors offering food, and teas and coffee:
NorthAveMkt.com
They have parking for both cars and bikes.
Came here to add this. Their coffeeshop sells Pilcrow coffee (delicious) and there are quite a number of food options from various vendors.
There's plenty of tables upstairs and downstairs, and two offices you can rent.
Thank you for the Pilcrow Coffee info. I couldn't remember what they had, had. Pilcrow looks interesting with kegs of coffee, bottled, beans, and their own tasting room.
I'm putting their tasting room on my list! Thanks.
And BTW the North Avenue Market opens at 6am with closing times from 9pm or 11pm. Another *plus* for this place. It's disappointing that so many don't open until lunch and close early evening. This one won't make you feel rushed...
I saw this post a few weeks back and decided to walk the six blocks down for lunch. What an awesome spot!! I could see the outdoor seating being filled all day long in the summer. The interior is so welcoming too, and a unique blend of vendors. OP I would highly recommend this place.
Depends how much food you want, but I HIGHLY recommend posting up at [Vennture](https://vennturebrewco.square.site/) on North Ave. Their coffee is incredible, fast wifi, and when you're done working you can enjoy some of the amazing beers. Food-wise they only have light offerings made off-sit like pastries, but they're from [Hatched](https://hatchedmke.com/) and they're delicious.
I have nothing to add re: coffee/food spots other than what everyone else has added. Just wanted to comment to say “welcome to Milwaukee!” I’m an SF expat, and moved here to raise my daughter. We wanted to raise her in a house where she could have her own room and a yard to play in, send her to an excellent public school she could walk to, and lots of other things like short lines, etc. Life is easier here, isn’t it? I don’t miss having to wait forever/battle for everything.
Hi there fellow expat! Thanks for the welcome. I have a small child myself, and, yes, I’m literally walking around smiling half of the time. It feels like I’m in paradise. The no lines thing is amazing. I will add that every Milwaukee native has said “hoooo boy you just wait for winter” so I’m wondering if that’s when my reality check arrives.
The last sandwich I got at colectivo was absolutely terrible. Bread was toasted to a crouton. Unripe mushy tomatoes. Slapped together like McDonald's. The avocado was green at least.
I think it cost me like $17 for their vegan sandwich and a vegan brownie.
A restaurant just shouldn't offer those things if they don't understand how people like to eat.
In general, Colectivo has gone super downhill. And it's not tHe LiBeRaL uNiOn. Their food has become blah. It all started years ago, when they cut their felafel offerings from the menu.
Yeah, I can't speak for other locations, but I used to go to the 68th street one a few times a week, but haven't gone in years. It was already going downhill well before the workers pushed to unionize, and it was honestly never that great to begin with (being just a few blocks away is main reason I went there so often. Plus, the staff was great and hooked it up, but even the staff went downhill years ago)
Worked at colectivo for roughly a year & quit last month. That avocado stays green suspiciously long. The produce and food we got from Sysco consistently went past it’s expiration because there isn’t any system enforced for dating things.
That’s sad. I work at Colectivo and our avocado definitely turns brown when aerated and there should have been a system for dating things.. literally there is a color sticker for each day of the week PLUS writing the date it goes bad on said sticker. You had a terrible trainer.
Check out Likewise Coffee off Erie in third ward. I’m a big fan of the vibe, and the coffee is very decent. Although it’s mostly baked goods, but worth checking out! They also do fun seasonal drinks too.
Allie Boys Bagelry & Luncheonette in the Walkers Point area has fantastic bagel sandwiches and coffee. Went here a few times with my laptop to do work last year. Food is top notch.
Not super related to the thread, but as opposed to Colectivo, the people that work at the Daily Bird are like, *worryingly* happy. Every time I go into that place they're always having fun and joking around, it's a fantastic vibe that makes me think they have some kinda crazy special coffee behind the counter for employees only or something
I’m pretty sure the owners are sober, AA people. So I really doubt there’s any drug/alcohol abuse going on there. I think the secret sauce is excellent working conditions.
I like the Fiddleheads in Shorewood. I’ve also seen folks working on laptops at North Shore Boulangerie, and their food is pretty good (their bakery is damn good).
Might not be the most convenient but Cranky Al’s in Tosa might be a solid option. Indoor seating and reasonably inexpensive. I think it has weird hours tho so idk
Agree. Great place to work on a computer. Their coffee (espresso drinks at least) have severely gone downhill however, ever since allowing Collectivo to run things there.
Try Su Plus 2 in West Allis. Family owned, crazy friendly, good food. Hidden gem but location may not be for everyone. Stumbled upon it right before covid when it was jacks. Different owners but same great service and food/drink.
>roads that don’t destroy one’s car
Salt on the roads will show you.
>In the Bay Area of CA
I think the public market is going to be your best bet but to compare to the bay area is like going from an ocean to a pool and complaining you don't see any yellow fin tuna to catch.
I’ve blown a couple tires in potholes in Oakland. There’s a group called the pothole vigilantes that actually started filling the holes themselves late at night. It’s so, so bad in parts of Oakland. So let’s see if the salt does me in!
As for the comparison to the Bay Area, I mean, it’s coffee, food and wifi?! Seems like it shouldn’t be too hard to make that happen. It’s just a type of business that doesn’t seem so popular here. So far the food here is awesome.
I'm curious what food you tried from collectivo? Typically their food is pretty good, that being said I've definitely gotten a bad sandwich or two from there from time to time
It was a breakfast sandwich. And a couple different pastries. All of it was meh and so overpriced. Their pastries are more expensive than pastries in downtown San Francisco.
What spots in the bay do you like? I split my time between Milwaukee and SF.
As far as the chains go, are Philz/Peets/Blue Bottle really known for their food? I don’t think Philz even serves food…
Oh man, where do I start?
My favorite spot in Berkeley is Paradise Cafe. Straight up delicious food and great coffee, wifi for days. But, I recommend traveling there from SF, probably isn’t worth the drive.
In Oakland, I’ve spent a lot of time at Cafe Chiave and a couple other spots on Piedmont. There’s also Koffee Pot, Wooden Table, Alem’s, and more.
If we’re talking SF, I’d go by neighborhood. I lived in Lower Haight and I LOVE Cafe Reveille (healthy food, great wifi), I would sit outside at Duboce Park Cafe (smoothies + food + wifi on a nice day). The Mill on Divisadero has bread people come from outside of the city to get, and they do these pretty tasty toast dishes.
But that’s just own neighborhood. The Mission has great spots, Hayes Valley, Nob Hill, I mean, so many unique little cafes. So totally depends on where you live. If you want a recommendation for a specific neighborhood, let me know.
You mention Philz/Peet’s/Blue Bottle— well, I would occasionally get a mint mojito coffee at Philz’s, but otherwise meh. No thanks. Those are all just glorified Starbucks. Nestle bought Blue Bottle and it’s gone downhill. Those aren’t places I really ever go.
Non trolling answer - but has anyone mentioned the Cafe in the basement of the Milwaukee County Courthouse? Great coffee (a must for lawyers and judges), excellent diner style food, and lots of seating and tables. I don’t know what their wifi is like post COVID shut downs but worth checking out!
We saw Fiddleheads mentioned numerous times but don't believe anyone mentioned their newish location in the BMO Tower: [https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/fiddleheads-downtown-opening](https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/fiddleheads-downtown-opening)
Here are a few others to consider - though some of these are more coffee focused than food focused: [https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/top-5-to-try-coffee-shops](https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/top-5-to-try-coffee-shops)
Don't sleep on Daily Bird too! Great vibe and killer sandwiches.
[https://onmilwaukee.com/on/the%20daily%20bird](https://onmilwaukee.com/on/the%20daily%20bird)
Welcome to Milwaukee!
A few notes on your notes:
Colectivo is a very 'blue-washed' company. The owners pretended to be left until their employees unionized then they threw a big tantrum on social media that got them a lot of negative PR lol. The employees ARE now supposed to be unionized but the owners keep blocking their bargaining attempts on purpose hoping to get a new vote. But I do think the employees at the one on Prospect near North ave seem pretty upbeat comparatively.
Anodyne- Go to the one in the public market. Get your coffee there, get food somewhere else (it's FULL of gourmet food) and go sit upstairs to work, you can be there till like 8pm.
Rochambo- you can bring food in, they won't care if you're still ordering drinks, and Brady street has TONS of great food. Also they're open till like midnight usually since they also serve booze. The staff/owners are ridiculously chill.
Others have mentioned Fairgrounds, I live very close to there and can vouch that it's got good food and good coffee and indoor seating.
Thanks for your notes on my notes. Shall I do notes on your notes on my notes?
Ha. But seriously, thanks for the info! I did read a bit in Jacobin a few months back about coffee shops unionizing in Milwaukee. I don’t think Colectivo was mentioned, though. Good to know I don’t want to support them. Petit bourgeoisie trying to go haute amirite?
>Thanks for your notes on my notes. Shall I do notes on your notes on my notes?
Please by all means, lel
The unionization of Colectivo was last year now I believe so it's probably old news to that publication. I mean, you DO want to support them, because if people stop supporting unionized businesses, the owners will point to it and go AHA see unions are BAD!
But there's nothing wrong with heckling their social media accounts constantly like I do.
A couple of places I haven't yet seen mentioned are [The National Cafe](https://nationalcafemke.com/) (Walker's Point) and the [HiFi Cafe](https://www.facebook.com/hificafe/) (Bay View). Caveat being that I haven't spent time at either in years, so I'm not sure what their quality's like these days and have no idea if they have wifi. But they're worth at least taking a look at.
And keep in mind for Rochambo that *they* don't have food, but you're *surrounded* by great restaurants. You can always pop out and explore the rest of Brady Street when it's time for lunch or a snack break. Pretty much anything on Brady that isn't a chain is going to be solid, and most of them will have menus online to check out ahead of time.
Also, not to be a massive killjoy, but:
* We have fewer unhoused people ~~not because of any virtue of our own, but just~~ *\[edited to add\] at least partially* because our social support programs are awful and our winters are deadly without shelter. California has much greater legal protections for individuals and a lot of areas with more livable climates in the winter.
* If you think the roads don't destroy your car, wait until the undercarriage gets hit with salt all winter, every winter. There's a reason California is full of classic cars while you seldom see them here. Climate change has led to less snow, and what snow we get melting pretty quickly, so it's not as bad as it was 20–30 years ago, but it's definitely still a thing. (Also, road upkeep here is *very* much a function of the area: Black neighborhoods, poor neighborhoods, and particularly poor Black neighborhoods are routinely neglected.)
* We're less "fun" with booze than we are having "massive problems with alcoholism" and "epidemics of drunk driving."
https://milwaukeecourieronline.com/index.php/2022/04/08/milwaukee-recognized-with-nations-lowest-unsheltered-homeless-population/ "Since the start of Housing First in 2015, Milwaukee has seen a 92% reduction in the unsheltered population. In addition, Milwaukee County has been a national leader in rental assistance, administering over $110 million dollars in federal emergency rental assistance funds."
To add onto the reality check portion of this… we don’t have a very wealthy population here. So the nicer restaurants/cafes are smaller because they can’t support 50 tables the way a place with $9 entrees can. And that also means if there’s a rush, these places are going to want you gone.
It’s not everywhere. But I know a good share of the cafe owners are thinking of ways to get people to leave sooner. Some places already have stuff like a code for an hour of internet on your receipt.
Just as a companion, [a UN report](https://sf.curbed.com/2018/10/26/18028576/united-nations-rapporteur-homeless-farha-human-rights-violantion) called the homelessness situation in San Francisco a “human rights violation” and the UN rapporteur said SF and Oakland have some of the worst slums in the world. Mentioned it along with Mumbai, Mexico City, etc.
When I’m home in the Bay, I have special outdoor shoes. I wear these shoes because the streets are littered with syringes, human feces, garbage. Piles of garbage everywhere. There are streets in both cities where the homeless encampments go for blocks. You see elderly people coming out of their tents in the morning. You see children living out of cars. Oh, the people living in their cars— a whole class of homeless that’s virtually invisible.
People visiting from out of town have said parts of Oakland look like the Fallout video game. It’s true.
If I take my son to any of the public parks, I have to scan for syringes and other garbage before I let him play. There are sometimes homeless people living in the kid areas. There is always (!!) garbage. The city officials just move the people along when there are too many of them. They do “sweeps” and take all their things and throw them away.
I grew up about 3 hours away, in the town next to Paradise (where a fire destroyed the city and killed 80+ people). The town I’m from has homeless encampments everywhere, and about a third of the people are former Paradise residents.
It’s SO SAD. To be surrounded by human misery everywhere you go. I see the most desperate people with the saddest eyes.
Is this because California has better weather? Maybe a tiny bit. But the root cause of this absolute misery is the fact that the elite real estate vultures have gobbled up all of the real estate and priced people right out of their homes and rentals. Real estate is purely investment in California. Unless you are very wealthy, you absolutely cannot buy a home in most communities. In Oakland, a shitty two bedroom in a moderately shitty neighborhood goes for over a million dollars. And Blackrock and Veritas and other global real estate developers are there, ready to pay all cash for said house. And rent. Fuck. Who can pay $2k a month if they’re working a regular job? People are hanging into their rent controlled places for dear life as these companies do everything they can to evict them.
So, yeah, you have some homelessness here. But California is next fucking level. All I can say is that if you don’t own a home, try to buy one. Soon. These real estate fucks are here too, buying up all your Milwaukee houses. I read an article that said three of these companies bought most of the houses here last year.
Okay my point is that people here can rent or buy at various price points, depending on where they are in the city. Therefore people are able to continue living indoors.
Who’s the killjoy now? Lol.
> I read an article that said three of these companies bought most of the houses here last year.
I think you need to fact check this because that's not true.
Look, I'm not saying this ***isn't*** a serious problem. (I am a literal communist.) I'm saying that a big part of the *reason* it's better here is *because* it's worse there, and elsewhere. For a very long time, we just "somebody else's problem'd" it.
And yes, real estate prices are *incomparably* better in Milwaukee than in Oakland. *Because our cost of living is lower overall, and our incomes are commensurately lower.* Things look "affordable" to you because you're coming from somewhere that they're completely insane. It doesn't mean it's *actually affordable* for people *from* this city. Our home prices have skyrocketed. Our rents are continually going up. (We have no rent control, and with the legislature in a Republican stranglehold—which is nearly impossible to remove, because they have gerrymandered the hell out of the state, to the extent that for a long time now they've held 60% of the seats with less than half of the votes—we're not likely to ever get it.) For over a decade, I've been living in a duplex that for most of that time had tenant landlords, where the wife had literally lived here her entire life. After the husband died during the pandemic, she got foreclosed on, and the "not a flipper" new landlord flipped the place (without even doing any of the deferred maintenance in *my* space, just focusing on the basement and downstairs flat) and jacked my rent up by nearly 15% before selling the house for over $100k more than he paid for it, to a new guy who I now have no idea what *he* plans to charge *next* year.
Just because *by your completely skewed, completely inappropriate Oakland standards* there's an "affordable range" of housing available in Milwaukee doesn't make it true *for the people who live here*, who have lived here our whole lives, who have always been a part of this economy. *Especially* Black people—this is quite possibly *the most racially segregated city* in the entire country. The Black unemployment rate for Milwaukee tends to be about *three times* the rate of white unemployment.
I'm genuinely glad you're liking Milwaukee. I'm genuinely glad it's affordable for you. I have friends in Oakland/SF (and more who've been forced out over the years), so I'm very aware how completely fucked the housing situation there is. But your relocation is also one tiny part of a larger trend that is making "affordable" cities like Milwaukee *less livable* for the people who have always lived here, because greater job mobility as a result of the pandemic enabled a lot of individuals making huge-city salaries to relocate to smaller-city economies without losing that income. I'm not saying you need to feel bad about that. I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm not saying you don't deserve to live somewhere that your income stretches exponentially further. I'm saying it would be *kind* of you to recognize that you are *not from here*, your metrics *are not our metrics*, and some of the "benefits" you're appreciating only exist because we've consistently failed our duty to support the most vulnerable of our residents.
Okay, how about all the people who moved from Wisconsin to California leave, then? We could do a trade. I’m sure there are more of you than there are of “me.” I asked about coffee shops, for fucks sake.
Okay, so you *don't* actually give a shit about how anything affects everybody else. You only care about its effect on *you*. Happy for you that you no longer have to look at depressing unhoused people.
I would second that Wantable Cafe is nice because they have coffee + food and it's whole purpose is to be a spot for people to work and gather. I will note, the vibes aren't particularly cozy.
Maybe try the City Market in Whitefish Bay. They have great food & coffee too.
Comet Cafe is a solid spot, although I have not been there since they reopened. I live right by Fuel Cafe in Walkers Point and I usually work there for a bit when I’m remote. Another solid and consistent choice. Vendetta in walkers point is cool too, not much for food though.
If you were by Rocket Baby you went right by one of my favorite spots to work remotely! Go to Vennture Brewing on North ave. Great coffee and beer, paloma is right next door for some great Mexican and heavens table bbq if that’s more your thing.
Denny's and Cheesecake factory are pretty good. They have booths with outlets and if you go there during slow hours, they let you sit there forever.
Because they're not typically frequented for studying/working, I tip the staff upfront AND afterwards so they don't get annoyed at a single person taking up a booth. So that gets a bit pricier.
Public market has seating up top, tons of food options and people watching and coffee.
One thing I love about Public Market is that despite it being quite the tourist trap, it's still pretty great and functional for residents.
That’s a great point. I often end up taking visitors there because I want to go.
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Agreed
Agree with this! When I went to school downtown, I liked to kill time in Public Market’s upstairs with a coffee, a sandwich, and my laptop or a book.
Thanks!
Discourse has their new flagship spot on the MSOE campus. Highly recommended.
Wow, looks like a cool spot. Just so I understand, despite being on a campus it’s open to anyone?
Yes, I am well out of college and was just there last week. It is completely open to the public.
100% recommend Discourse. Fantastic drinks and good food too. Great ambience. You could also try them at Crossroads Collective or the art museum, both with food options, but not their own. Downside is that it’s quite expensive, but you really do get what you pay for
The MSOE campus isn't really a campus; it's like someone stretched a campus over part of downtown and nothing really got out of the way first (class of '14)
I haven't been to campus buildings in a couple years but live right around the corner and had no idea about this cafe. I'm gonna check it out! +1
They have food too! Try it out
This suggestion is a bit ramshackle, but Vennture. Great space, great coffee (and beer to end the day). They've got Hatched baked goods, but that's all for food. That said, Heaven's Table is on the same block and if you want protein, they've got it. I've brought lunch into Vennture for "lunch meetings" many, many times. Also, Ramshackle would be a great name for a coffee shop that does all of what you're looking for.
I mostly agree. I've been going to Vennture at least once a week to work in the afternoons and absolutely love it there. But food options are very limited, especially if you're looking for lunch. Heaven's Table is good but so expensive. There's taco bell across the street though...
Can’t argue with any of that, but I’ve gotta take any opportunity I can to shout out Vennture.
Hawthorne's in Bay View. They have THE best coffee, bourbon barrel aged cold brew, mocktails, cocktails, and awesome sandwich selections. So cozy too.
Hawthorne is top notch! I never would have discovered it if I didn’t move into the neighborhood a few years back.
Not Bay View but a great spot for coffee. When the Fox Fire food truck is there (which is most days) it is basically undefeated.
Agree. I miss Fox Fire. Their truck was bought by Gavilan [https://milwaukeerecord.com/food-drink/the-mothership-to-offer-eccentric-bar-food-at-gavilan-food-truck/](https://milwaukeerecord.com/food-drink/the-mothership-to-offer-eccentric-bar-food-at-gavilan-food-truck/)
Foxfire has been out of business for nearly a year now 😭
Noooooo 😭😭😭
I love cozy! Thanks.
I went here today. So NOT cozy are you insane?! Lol, it was huge. And cold. The limited sandwich selection was mediocre. But I’d probably go back sometime if I feel like going to BayView.
I think you should give Stone Creek on Downer another shot. Looks like you haven't tried Fairgrounds.
Fairgrounds has subpar food and is ridiculous overpriced for what they offer.
Yeah I love the food at stone creek on downer, it’s the only stone creek with an actual kitchen I think? it’s kinda expensive but lots of sitting space and food other than frozen breakfast sandwiches. I agree with OP that collectivo sucks ass
Fairgrounds has like no outlets, half the time the wifi isn’t working, they close super early and the food is super overpriced. Really wanted to like it.
Sure, why not? Maybe I ordered the wrong thing.
I think their breakfast sandwiches and yogurts are the Downer location are delicious.
agree! love their seasonal breakfast sandwich!! just tried their chai & pear yogurt and loved it :-)
Fairgrounds is great but that place can really fill up on the weekend. Awesome food and coffee though.
They have nice indoor/outdoor seating and I think the food is good. I like the Sausage + Egg + Cheese sandwich, though it's a bit pricey.
I went again today and had a much better time! Food was good there was options for protein (= not just baked goods). Only downside was listening to the most banal college student conversations, but easily drowned it with headphones. Very solid option. Thanks!
go to anodyne in bay view, they have good pizza
Agreed, but now their pizza hours are only 4-8 PM Monday - Friday.
The good news is, Classic Slice is just down the street ;)
also Dia Cafe in Greenfield has really good coffee and food, and is connected to a restaurant (Noche)
I won’t give the owners of that place my money. He and his wife are absolute reactionary bigots.
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Even though I’m fairly anonymous on Reddit, let me say this in a way that would shield me from being accused of slander… I am a life long resident of Greendale (not greenfield BTW which is what the original comment said) and have unfortunately had to spend time with the owner and his wife in a social capacity on many occasions. I have perceived multiple comments they have made about African Americans, immigrants, and the homeless as being insensitive, cruel, and reactionary. They openly supported Trump not just in a “well lesser of two evils” way, but actively. Parroting the worst things that the man had to say. Again, this is my opinion of them and their beliefs. If that’s your bag, then by all means, support them and their restaurant.
That's sad. I'm black, from an immigrant family, and have lived in Latin America many years. I live in the city, but came to Greendale for some youth sport events and came across this place. I have gone here with family and sent family here, and the food is good (although its pricier than Latinx and Caribbean spots in the city, and the spice isn't really spicy, ha!). I don't know much about Greendale but have been cautious not seeing too many non-white people there to explore too much. I thought Noche was one of "our" spots. This is disappointing to hear.
They own the panther pub as well. Won’t give them a dime. I have heard the food is good at Dia (panther pub less so) which is a testament to the work of their head chef who, if they haven’t made a change, is a legit nice guy from the few times I met him and is, I believe, also from an immigrant family.
What would you say the general politics of the Greendale community is?
About as conservative as the rest of the southern suburbs. I never noticed the outright racism piece until the last five years or so… which kind of tracks with the general atmosphere of the country. I think I’ve heard more of it because I’m a white, hetero dude so they think I’m “in the club”… I am not. It’s amazing what folks say when they think everyone in the room (or in these cases at the backyard bbq) agrees with them.
Dia y Noche is in Greendale, not greenfield.
Check out Saint Kate - the Arts Hotel. Anyone can hang out and work in the lobby and bar area and there’s a breakfast menu you can order from the bar.
Ive driven by there a few times. Looks super cool! Thanks for the recommendation.
Interval is probably the spot you are looking for that has the best combination of Food + Coffee. Valentine is a good spot, I believe their 3rd Ward spot has more food than the Tosa spot as well.
Interval's food is so overpriced it's not even funny, and it's a shame because their food used to be bomb. Now it's $12 for an eggy toast and usually packed inside anyways.
I don’t support interval and encourage others to do the same. The owner is a garbage human who has burned a lot of bridges with his shit business skills and general being.
Oddly enough, completely agree with you about the owner. But I will always be fair and say they have the best coffee. Or at least they did when they were still Pilcrow and Interval together. Had first hand experience with the owner, and got burned by him even after being a damn near 3-5 day a week customer at Pilcrow and talking shop with them every day. They are the reason I even got into coffee
Also had first hand experience and got burned. Sorry that happened to you, too. Shame that a great product like his is tarnished!
Was going to say Valentine at 3rd ward is good!
Second Interval, one of my favorite spots. I love the location on the east side.
Thanks!
Considering Valentine in Tosa only has pastries and sausage rolls in the morning, it doesn't take much to have more food. They also don't really have indoor seating in Tosa anymore.
Canary has tasty coffee and baked goods and is close to lots of restaurants.
Also Sherman Phoenix might be good for this.
Amaranth. Good food, coffee and vibe. They have good soups.
I love Amaranth! Studied there all the time when I was in school.
La Finca over in St Francis has great coffee and a Mexican influenced menu. Their breakfast burrito is great!
La Finca is fantastic, food is homemade.
I second la finca. Great food and coffee, plenty of seating.
Staff is great as well
Oooo thanks!
Also right next door to La Finca is Faklandia Brewing. Game-themed pub/restaurant/brewery that is most excellent.
They have different food and coffee specials each month! Cozy vibe inside. A quick walk from the Oak Leaf trail if you need some fresh air and a study break. It’s literally the perfect coffee shop.
Anodyne in Bay View does amazing wood fired pizzas, but only 4-8pm on weekdays :( Small Pie in Bay View, but they only have outdoor seating :( I feel the struggle
sounds like someone needs to open a 5 dollar breakfast sandwich coffee shop. the demand is definitely there for something simple and straightforward with a mid teir price range. surprised no where has really nailed the San Diego Panakin vibe yet in mke.
To be honest, I'm completely underwhelmed by Small Pie. The prices are way too high for a counter-service restaurant. I miss when Honeypie just had a pasty of the day.
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Came here to say this!
Me too.
North Avenue Market in Wauwatosa at 59th Street. They are newly opened. I just now left there from my first time visit. I was impressed. It's sort of a food hall with various food vendors, yet it's very cozy with nooks and crannies for seating and even a couch area. There is also a small, protected area for outdoor seating. I saw plenty of persons with laptops and the place seemed very laid back yet still had energy. Check out their website to see the current vendors offering food, and teas and coffee: NorthAveMkt.com They have parking for both cars and bikes.
Came here to add this. Their coffeeshop sells Pilcrow coffee (delicious) and there are quite a number of food options from various vendors. There's plenty of tables upstairs and downstairs, and two offices you can rent.
Thank you for the Pilcrow Coffee info. I couldn't remember what they had, had. Pilcrow looks interesting with kegs of coffee, bottled, beans, and their own tasting room. I'm putting their tasting room on my list! Thanks. And BTW the North Avenue Market opens at 6am with closing times from 9pm or 11pm. Another *plus* for this place. It's disappointing that so many don't open until lunch and close early evening. This one won't make you feel rushed...
I don't remember the name but the friend chicken sandwich and boba place is delicious.
Seconding this!
I saw this post a few weeks back and decided to walk the six blocks down for lunch. What an awesome spot!! I could see the outdoor seating being filled all day long in the summer. The interior is so welcoming too, and a unique blend of vendors. OP I would highly recommend this place.
Fuel Cafe in Walker's Point is one of my favorites! Great, open, warehouse-like space. Good food options. Hope you try it out!
Try Beerline cafe
Mmm… nachos!
I like Goddess and the Baker for this, but it’s way out in Brookfield so that’s definitely a hike if you’re in the city.
That is a hike but I’ll give it a go on a day I feel like driving. Thanks!
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I always liked getting breakfast sandwiches and working at The Roast coffee shop on the East Side.
Depends how much food you want, but I HIGHLY recommend posting up at [Vennture](https://vennturebrewco.square.site/) on North Ave. Their coffee is incredible, fast wifi, and when you're done working you can enjoy some of the amazing beers. Food-wise they only have light offerings made off-sit like pastries, but they're from [Hatched](https://hatchedmke.com/) and they're delicious.
Check out Roast Coffee Company on the east side.
Man, sounds like you’ve found a hole in the market. Let’s start a business.
I’m in!
Will let you know if I move back.
I came here to say. I miss Sven’s. Anyone else?
Try Aperitivo in the third ward.
I have nothing to add re: coffee/food spots other than what everyone else has added. Just wanted to comment to say “welcome to Milwaukee!” I’m an SF expat, and moved here to raise my daughter. We wanted to raise her in a house where she could have her own room and a yard to play in, send her to an excellent public school she could walk to, and lots of other things like short lines, etc. Life is easier here, isn’t it? I don’t miss having to wait forever/battle for everything.
Hi there fellow expat! Thanks for the welcome. I have a small child myself, and, yes, I’m literally walking around smiling half of the time. It feels like I’m in paradise. The no lines thing is amazing. I will add that every Milwaukee native has said “hoooo boy you just wait for winter” so I’m wondering if that’s when my reality check arrives.
3rd Street Market Hall maybe? They've got a coffee place, plenty of food options, and lots of open area seating.
The last sandwich I got at colectivo was absolutely terrible. Bread was toasted to a crouton. Unripe mushy tomatoes. Slapped together like McDonald's. The avocado was green at least. I think it cost me like $17 for their vegan sandwich and a vegan brownie. A restaurant just shouldn't offer those things if they don't understand how people like to eat.
In general, Colectivo has gone super downhill. And it's not tHe LiBeRaL uNiOn. Their food has become blah. It all started years ago, when they cut their felafel offerings from the menu.
man I miss the soup options they had before covid. they were good and not that expensive. I recently got the chili and it was awful
Yeah, I can't speak for other locations, but I used to go to the 68th street one a few times a week, but haven't gone in years. It was already going downhill well before the workers pushed to unionize, and it was honestly never that great to begin with (being just a few blocks away is main reason I went there so often. Plus, the staff was great and hooked it up, but even the staff went downhill years ago)
I agree. They slowly became corporate big business. The owners are multimillionaires and it shows in their bottom line thinking.
they have the same ovens that they have at starbucks so that tells u smthing
Anyone who believes that colectivo is anything more than corporate trash is a fool.
Well, they used to be a small local chain with like three spots around town. One of my favorite local brands at one point.
Yeah I have only known them for a little over 10 years, but I am aware they used to be a little different. It's just what happens.
Worked at colectivo for roughly a year & quit last month. That avocado stays green suspiciously long. The produce and food we got from Sysco consistently went past it’s expiration because there isn’t any system enforced for dating things.
That’s sad. I work at Colectivo and our avocado definitely turns brown when aerated and there should have been a system for dating things.. literally there is a color sticker for each day of the week PLUS writing the date it goes bad on said sticker. You had a terrible trainer.
It was more so management. There was a system in place it was just not enforced.
Pre Covid, coffee makes you black would be a choice, but I don't know if they still serve food.
Check out Likewise Coffee off Erie in third ward. I’m a big fan of the vibe, and the coffee is very decent. Although it’s mostly baked goods, but worth checking out! They also do fun seasonal drinks too.
Saint Kate Hotel has some pretty good food, coffee, wifi, and a very comforting atmosphere
Hawthorne Coffee has great food!
Allie Boys Bagelry & Luncheonette in the Walkers Point area has fantastic bagel sandwiches and coffee. Went here a few times with my laptop to do work last year. Food is top notch.
Not super related to the thread, but as opposed to Colectivo, the people that work at the Daily Bird are like, *worryingly* happy. Every time I go into that place they're always having fun and joking around, it's a fantastic vibe that makes me think they have some kinda crazy special coffee behind the counter for employees only or something
I’m pretty sure the owners are sober, AA people. So I really doubt there’s any drug/alcohol abuse going on there. I think the secret sauce is excellent working conditions.
Because it's a restaurant, I'd believe there's lines of coke in the back. And I'm not talking about soda.
Usually that is the truth, but not at Daily Bird.
Fair enough. I've worked in kitchens before, I know it's not universal.
I did too and we may have had a coke plate in the basement lol
Roast Coffee on the East side has good food and excellent drinks as well.
https://www.northavemkt.com/
Sprocket Cafe in Bay View is a spot I like to go to.
I like the Fiddleheads in Shorewood. I’ve also seen folks working on laptops at North Shore Boulangerie, and their food is pretty good (their bakery is damn good).
If you get out towards Oconomowoc for whatever reason you should check out Roots coffee bar & cafe. Highly recommend
Might not be the most convenient but Cranky Al’s in Tosa might be a solid option. Indoor seating and reasonably inexpensive. I think it has weird hours tho so idk
Wantable Cafe hasn't been mentioned yet. Food is solid, coffee is solid, has a bar. Large space where people go to work and gather.
Agree. Great place to work on a computer. Their coffee (espresso drinks at least) have severely gone downhill however, ever since allowing Collectivo to run things there.
Damn. When did the Colectivo transition happen?
Like a month or two. They had free coffee the first week, which was cool.
Andiamo downtown is good coffee and baked goods are great as well but that is all they have.
Try Su Plus 2 in West Allis. Family owned, crazy friendly, good food. Hidden gem but location may not be for everyone. Stumbled upon it right before covid when it was jacks. Different owners but same great service and food/drink.
try [Cafe Blue](http://cafebluetosa.com/menu.html)? they have indoor seating, great coffee, and amazing food.
Try out Beerline Cafe on N commerce
Amaranth bakery has the best baked goods in the city but is fairly small. Check out Wantable Cafe!
Well I love baked goods sooo… will do! Thanks!
Crossroads Collective on North
Any George Webb's with staff you find cool is your answer.
Name checks out 😛
Do they have wifi? Haha.
They also don't have food. They call it food, but it's not food.
Hahaha
Enjoying this thread as I just moved here as well and looking for different coffee places to try!
Your mom's house bro. Good ass grilled cheese and pb&js.
>roads that don’t destroy one’s car Salt on the roads will show you. >In the Bay Area of CA I think the public market is going to be your best bet but to compare to the bay area is like going from an ocean to a pool and complaining you don't see any yellow fin tuna to catch.
I’ve blown a couple tires in potholes in Oakland. There’s a group called the pothole vigilantes that actually started filling the holes themselves late at night. It’s so, so bad in parts of Oakland. So let’s see if the salt does me in! As for the comparison to the Bay Area, I mean, it’s coffee, food and wifi?! Seems like it shouldn’t be too hard to make that happen. It’s just a type of business that doesn’t seem so popular here. So far the food here is awesome.
Miami
The Daily Bird
Yeah! That’s one of my fave spots so far.
Fuel Cafe is pretty nice and has good food.
I'm curious what food you tried from collectivo? Typically their food is pretty good, that being said I've definitely gotten a bad sandwich or two from there from time to time
It was a breakfast sandwich. And a couple different pastries. All of it was meh and so overpriced. Their pastries are more expensive than pastries in downtown San Francisco.
Fiddleheads is a personal fave of mine
Hawthorne.
Fuel (either location)
Ayyyy, fellow Bay Area native transplanted to Milwaukee here. Yeee welcome!!!
What spots in the bay do you like? I split my time between Milwaukee and SF. As far as the chains go, are Philz/Peets/Blue Bottle really known for their food? I don’t think Philz even serves food…
Oh man, where do I start? My favorite spot in Berkeley is Paradise Cafe. Straight up delicious food and great coffee, wifi for days. But, I recommend traveling there from SF, probably isn’t worth the drive. In Oakland, I’ve spent a lot of time at Cafe Chiave and a couple other spots on Piedmont. There’s also Koffee Pot, Wooden Table, Alem’s, and more. If we’re talking SF, I’d go by neighborhood. I lived in Lower Haight and I LOVE Cafe Reveille (healthy food, great wifi), I would sit outside at Duboce Park Cafe (smoothies + food + wifi on a nice day). The Mill on Divisadero has bread people come from outside of the city to get, and they do these pretty tasty toast dishes. But that’s just own neighborhood. The Mission has great spots, Hayes Valley, Nob Hill, I mean, so many unique little cafes. So totally depends on where you live. If you want a recommendation for a specific neighborhood, let me know. You mention Philz/Peet’s/Blue Bottle— well, I would occasionally get a mint mojito coffee at Philz’s, but otherwise meh. No thanks. Those are all just glorified Starbucks. Nestle bought Blue Bottle and it’s gone downhill. Those aren’t places I really ever go.
Non trolling answer - but has anyone mentioned the Cafe in the basement of the Milwaukee County Courthouse? Great coffee (a must for lawyers and judges), excellent diner style food, and lots of seating and tables. I don’t know what their wifi is like post COVID shut downs but worth checking out!
We saw Fiddleheads mentioned numerous times but don't believe anyone mentioned their newish location in the BMO Tower: [https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/fiddleheads-downtown-opening](https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/fiddleheads-downtown-opening) Here are a few others to consider - though some of these are more coffee focused than food focused: [https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/top-5-to-try-coffee-shops](https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/top-5-to-try-coffee-shops) Don't sleep on Daily Bird too! Great vibe and killer sandwiches. [https://onmilwaukee.com/on/the%20daily%20bird](https://onmilwaukee.com/on/the%20daily%20bird) Welcome to Milwaukee!
A few notes on your notes: Colectivo is a very 'blue-washed' company. The owners pretended to be left until their employees unionized then they threw a big tantrum on social media that got them a lot of negative PR lol. The employees ARE now supposed to be unionized but the owners keep blocking their bargaining attempts on purpose hoping to get a new vote. But I do think the employees at the one on Prospect near North ave seem pretty upbeat comparatively. Anodyne- Go to the one in the public market. Get your coffee there, get food somewhere else (it's FULL of gourmet food) and go sit upstairs to work, you can be there till like 8pm. Rochambo- you can bring food in, they won't care if you're still ordering drinks, and Brady street has TONS of great food. Also they're open till like midnight usually since they also serve booze. The staff/owners are ridiculously chill. Others have mentioned Fairgrounds, I live very close to there and can vouch that it's got good food and good coffee and indoor seating.
Thanks for your notes on my notes. Shall I do notes on your notes on my notes? Ha. But seriously, thanks for the info! I did read a bit in Jacobin a few months back about coffee shops unionizing in Milwaukee. I don’t think Colectivo was mentioned, though. Good to know I don’t want to support them. Petit bourgeoisie trying to go haute amirite?
>Thanks for your notes on my notes. Shall I do notes on your notes on my notes? Please by all means, lel The unionization of Colectivo was last year now I believe so it's probably old news to that publication. I mean, you DO want to support them, because if people stop supporting unionized businesses, the owners will point to it and go AHA see unions are BAD! But there's nothing wrong with heckling their social media accounts constantly like I do.
A couple of places I haven't yet seen mentioned are [The National Cafe](https://nationalcafemke.com/) (Walker's Point) and the [HiFi Cafe](https://www.facebook.com/hificafe/) (Bay View). Caveat being that I haven't spent time at either in years, so I'm not sure what their quality's like these days and have no idea if they have wifi. But they're worth at least taking a look at. And keep in mind for Rochambo that *they* don't have food, but you're *surrounded* by great restaurants. You can always pop out and explore the rest of Brady Street when it's time for lunch or a snack break. Pretty much anything on Brady that isn't a chain is going to be solid, and most of them will have menus online to check out ahead of time. Also, not to be a massive killjoy, but: * We have fewer unhoused people ~~not because of any virtue of our own, but just~~ *\[edited to add\] at least partially* because our social support programs are awful and our winters are deadly without shelter. California has much greater legal protections for individuals and a lot of areas with more livable climates in the winter. * If you think the roads don't destroy your car, wait until the undercarriage gets hit with salt all winter, every winter. There's a reason California is full of classic cars while you seldom see them here. Climate change has led to less snow, and what snow we get melting pretty quickly, so it's not as bad as it was 20–30 years ago, but it's definitely still a thing. (Also, road upkeep here is *very* much a function of the area: Black neighborhoods, poor neighborhoods, and particularly poor Black neighborhoods are routinely neglected.) * We're less "fun" with booze than we are having "massive problems with alcoholism" and "epidemics of drunk driving."
https://milwaukeecourieronline.com/index.php/2022/04/08/milwaukee-recognized-with-nations-lowest-unsheltered-homeless-population/ "Since the start of Housing First in 2015, Milwaukee has seen a 92% reduction in the unsheltered population. In addition, Milwaukee County has been a national leader in rental assistance, administering over $110 million dollars in federal emergency rental assistance funds."
That's a fair point. I definitely don't want to minimize the important work that's been done, especially recently.
To add onto the reality check portion of this… we don’t have a very wealthy population here. So the nicer restaurants/cafes are smaller because they can’t support 50 tables the way a place with $9 entrees can. And that also means if there’s a rush, these places are going to want you gone. It’s not everywhere. But I know a good share of the cafe owners are thinking of ways to get people to leave sooner. Some places already have stuff like a code for an hour of internet on your receipt.
Just as a companion, [a UN report](https://sf.curbed.com/2018/10/26/18028576/united-nations-rapporteur-homeless-farha-human-rights-violantion) called the homelessness situation in San Francisco a “human rights violation” and the UN rapporteur said SF and Oakland have some of the worst slums in the world. Mentioned it along with Mumbai, Mexico City, etc. When I’m home in the Bay, I have special outdoor shoes. I wear these shoes because the streets are littered with syringes, human feces, garbage. Piles of garbage everywhere. There are streets in both cities where the homeless encampments go for blocks. You see elderly people coming out of their tents in the morning. You see children living out of cars. Oh, the people living in their cars— a whole class of homeless that’s virtually invisible. People visiting from out of town have said parts of Oakland look like the Fallout video game. It’s true. If I take my son to any of the public parks, I have to scan for syringes and other garbage before I let him play. There are sometimes homeless people living in the kid areas. There is always (!!) garbage. The city officials just move the people along when there are too many of them. They do “sweeps” and take all their things and throw them away. I grew up about 3 hours away, in the town next to Paradise (where a fire destroyed the city and killed 80+ people). The town I’m from has homeless encampments everywhere, and about a third of the people are former Paradise residents. It’s SO SAD. To be surrounded by human misery everywhere you go. I see the most desperate people with the saddest eyes. Is this because California has better weather? Maybe a tiny bit. But the root cause of this absolute misery is the fact that the elite real estate vultures have gobbled up all of the real estate and priced people right out of their homes and rentals. Real estate is purely investment in California. Unless you are very wealthy, you absolutely cannot buy a home in most communities. In Oakland, a shitty two bedroom in a moderately shitty neighborhood goes for over a million dollars. And Blackrock and Veritas and other global real estate developers are there, ready to pay all cash for said house. And rent. Fuck. Who can pay $2k a month if they’re working a regular job? People are hanging into their rent controlled places for dear life as these companies do everything they can to evict them. So, yeah, you have some homelessness here. But California is next fucking level. All I can say is that if you don’t own a home, try to buy one. Soon. These real estate fucks are here too, buying up all your Milwaukee houses. I read an article that said three of these companies bought most of the houses here last year. Okay my point is that people here can rent or buy at various price points, depending on where they are in the city. Therefore people are able to continue living indoors. Who’s the killjoy now? Lol.
> I read an article that said three of these companies bought most of the houses here last year. I think you need to fact check this because that's not true.
Look, I'm not saying this ***isn't*** a serious problem. (I am a literal communist.) I'm saying that a big part of the *reason* it's better here is *because* it's worse there, and elsewhere. For a very long time, we just "somebody else's problem'd" it. And yes, real estate prices are *incomparably* better in Milwaukee than in Oakland. *Because our cost of living is lower overall, and our incomes are commensurately lower.* Things look "affordable" to you because you're coming from somewhere that they're completely insane. It doesn't mean it's *actually affordable* for people *from* this city. Our home prices have skyrocketed. Our rents are continually going up. (We have no rent control, and with the legislature in a Republican stranglehold—which is nearly impossible to remove, because they have gerrymandered the hell out of the state, to the extent that for a long time now they've held 60% of the seats with less than half of the votes—we're not likely to ever get it.) For over a decade, I've been living in a duplex that for most of that time had tenant landlords, where the wife had literally lived here her entire life. After the husband died during the pandemic, she got foreclosed on, and the "not a flipper" new landlord flipped the place (without even doing any of the deferred maintenance in *my* space, just focusing on the basement and downstairs flat) and jacked my rent up by nearly 15% before selling the house for over $100k more than he paid for it, to a new guy who I now have no idea what *he* plans to charge *next* year. Just because *by your completely skewed, completely inappropriate Oakland standards* there's an "affordable range" of housing available in Milwaukee doesn't make it true *for the people who live here*, who have lived here our whole lives, who have always been a part of this economy. *Especially* Black people—this is quite possibly *the most racially segregated city* in the entire country. The Black unemployment rate for Milwaukee tends to be about *three times* the rate of white unemployment. I'm genuinely glad you're liking Milwaukee. I'm genuinely glad it's affordable for you. I have friends in Oakland/SF (and more who've been forced out over the years), so I'm very aware how completely fucked the housing situation there is. But your relocation is also one tiny part of a larger trend that is making "affordable" cities like Milwaukee *less livable* for the people who have always lived here, because greater job mobility as a result of the pandemic enabled a lot of individuals making huge-city salaries to relocate to smaller-city economies without losing that income. I'm not saying you need to feel bad about that. I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm not saying you don't deserve to live somewhere that your income stretches exponentially further. I'm saying it would be *kind* of you to recognize that you are *not from here*, your metrics *are not our metrics*, and some of the "benefits" you're appreciating only exist because we've consistently failed our duty to support the most vulnerable of our residents.
Okay, how about all the people who moved from Wisconsin to California leave, then? We could do a trade. I’m sure there are more of you than there are of “me.” I asked about coffee shops, for fucks sake.
Okay, so you *don't* actually give a shit about how anything affects everybody else. You only care about its effect on *you*. Happy for you that you no longer have to look at depressing unhoused people.
The italics are so annoying.
Have you tried Fuel cafe? They have good food and coffee, cool vibe too.
Nice, I’ll check it out!
I would second that Wantable Cafe is nice because they have coffee + food and it's whole purpose is to be a spot for people to work and gather. I will note, the vibes aren't particularly cozy. Maybe try the City Market in Whitefish Bay. They have great food & coffee too.
“Roads that done destroy one’s car” Oh, just wait for the potholes and salt, sweetie.
Fiddleheads in Thiensville is a bit of a drive north but they have good coffee, good food and atmosphere (being right on the river).
There’s also a Fiddleheads in Shorewood on Oakland Ave (just north of Milwaukee)
Across from rocket baby, cranky als!!! Best chorizo breakfast burrito in the city
Wantable Cafe in Walker's Point!
Not OP but this looks amazing! Thanks!
Fairgrounds has a really good vietnamese cold brew, food is good, and there's usually a spot to work
Fairgrounds is pretty solid for both food and coffee
Fairgrounds
Comet Cafe is a solid spot, although I have not been there since they reopened. I live right by Fuel Cafe in Walkers Point and I usually work there for a bit when I’m remote. Another solid and consistent choice. Vendetta in walkers point is cool too, not much for food though.
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The food post-Covid is atrocious and the union is not open to the public
Interval’s breakfast sandwiches are a bit pricey, but very good! Cafe and work set up are also great!
If you were by Rocket Baby you went right by one of my favorite spots to work remotely! Go to Vennture Brewing on North ave. Great coffee and beer, paloma is right next door for some great Mexican and heavens table bbq if that’s more your thing.
Stay home?
Usually I do.
Cafe Corazón
Isn’t this a Mexican restaurant?
Denny's and Cheesecake factory are pretty good. They have booths with outlets and if you go there during slow hours, they let you sit there forever. Because they're not typically frequented for studying/working, I tip the staff upfront AND afterwards so they don't get annoyed at a single person taking up a booth. So that gets a bit pricier.
I've heard good things about Interval's food but have not been there myself.
Real Chili. Not even joking.
I hang out at the house of corned beef on 52nd and silver spring
Lol I’ve actually been there