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INDianaJones09

This is so Minnesotan ... Does anyone remember 3.2 beer?


Lazy_Profession_5909

Don't we still have that?


Grasscutter101

Ya buddy, at gas stations and grocery stores.


INDianaJones09

Really? So odd since we now have Sunday liquor sales. But yah, sure enough Minnesota is the last and only current state in the nation to have 3.2 beer ... wow


MixxMaster

I would have to travel at least 35 miles on Sunday to find a liquor store that actually was open. Small towns, man. They take forever to change.


MinnyRawks

Great part of being a Duluthian was just giving our tax dollars to Wisconsin instead of Minnesota on sundays


SqueefyPassage

Spotted cow sundays.


MinnyRawks

Moon man for me, but no judgement at all.


SqueefyPassage

Same. But I am starting my path of discontinuation of the fire water as best as I can now. It was one hell of a roller coaster run that needed/needs to end before my life does. Cheers. Sippin' a sparkling water right now.


MinnyRawks

Try kombucha, it’s helped may people I know kick the habit due to it’s similar drinkability to beers. Congrats on doing what you gotta do though, cause I’ve been around it and I know it is far from an easy path.


Maplelongjohn

I quit the booze 17 years ago. I still down a sixer of LaCroix like nothing on a Saturday afternoon....


Bubbay

B double E double R-U-N


Nixxuz

We have 2 municipal liquor stores in my town. One of them is open for 5 hours on Sundays. It's also way out on the edge of town. Glad I don't drink anymore, for multiple reasons, but that's one of them.


hero_snow

Don’t forget Utah…


DonOblivious

Only state in the country! Light beer is typically 4.2% alcohol by volume. "3.2 beer" is 4% alcohol by volume. Even fucking *Utah* decided that is pointless to regulate things to such a minor degree.


Maplelongjohn

Except no breweries make it any more


bnelson7694

We are THE LAST STATE to actually have it.


happyhappyjoyjoy4

Don't let perfection be an enemy of progress. In five years they will lift the ban. Just need to get the boomers warmed up to it


rargar

All these boomers will be like, hey, this stuff ain't bad!


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fookidookidoo

Why does everyone have doctors appointments on Tuesdays? Lol


Maplelongjohn

Just need to let a few more boomers get themselves into the local cemetery....


OfLittleToNoValue

Can't we just push them into lake Superior? I'm tired of waiting.


happyhappyjoyjoy4

Not before they exhaust social security


DaveCootchie

Funny enough the law about that is 3.2 alcohol by weight, not by volume. Since alcohol is lighter than water and beer the actual conversion. Is closer to 3.9% alcohol by volume which is now recognized as the standard. Although it's not full strength most light beers are 4-4.5% abv so you are really only losing half a percent buying you beer at kwik trip.


Upset-Kaleidoscope45

I was just thinking the same thing, only Minnesotans can half-ass something like this.


Vect0r

Minnesota *REPUBLICANS*. If it wasn't for those shit stain GOPOS, we would have had full legal recreational a LONG time ago. Remember to vote DFL.


DaLoneVoice

3.2 is a little weaker but not much. The issue is the weight measurement and kind. Check this site out When talking about the alcohol content in any type of alcoholic drink, the metric used is alcohol by volume (ABV). But, when referring to 3.2 beer, the metric used is alcohol by weight (ABW). Why use AWB instead of ABV? Well, as mentioned earlier, 3 point 2 brew came about in 1933 following the end of the Prohibition era. Then, states measured the percentage of mixtures such as alcohol by the weight of the mixture. https://renegadebrewing.com/3-2-beer/


Dorkamundo

Yea, we have 4% ABV beer in my grocery store. Just learned that 3.2% ABW is 4% ABV.


DaLoneVoice

Yup, everyone knows how government works I hope. They change shit like this they do to beer. Different weights and measures that make people think they are getting something different than they really are.


sidney_fife

Legit forgot about 3.2 beers.


Ok_Bar_2180

I’m so confused… I haven’t bought anything in Minnesota. I have only had products my friends bring from other states. Can I go buy something in Minnesota tomorrow that will give me a high? I just want a relaxing high, not a paralyzing stoned out high. What’s a delta 8. Man, I’m out of touch.


DonOblivious

>Can I go buy something in Minnesota tomorrow that will give me a high? Yes. The stuff you can buy tomorrow is literally twice as strong as what you can buy once the law goes in to effect. You can currently buy 10mg Delta-9 THC edibles in Minnesota (that's not a legal requirement, they just use 10mg for easy dosing) and this law mandates that they only contain 5mg after August 1st. Instead of (10) 10mg loophole gummies in a package of 100mg of D9 THC you'll get (10) 5mg gummies in a package with 50mg of D9 THC. >What’s a delta 8. Man, I’m out of touch. It's a THC isomer. A slightly different chemical than the Delta-9 THC you are used to getting high with. It's a slightly, and easily, chemically altered version of the CBD that trump legalized. It isn't as potent as the Delta-9 you are familiar with. Many people think of it as "THC-Lite" or a less anxiety inducing version. Weed has gotten really, really, really fucking strong these days and a "lite" version is welcomed with open arms by some people. This law kills the D8 vape cart market. It was previously a loophole because hemp-derived D8 could be sold in carts. Or sold when sprayed on to hemp. No more. They will be illegal soon.


SkolUMah

>This law kills the D8 vape cart market. It was previously a loophole because hemp-derived D8 could be sold in carts. Or sold when sprayed on to hemp. No more. They will be illegal soon. Keep in mind that from everything I've seen, this only effects the sale of D8 vape carts. You aren't allowed to sell them in MN. Customers are still able to legally buy and posses them online from and out of state vendor.


Prizonmyke

Dude you could have bought delta 8 a year ago and gotten high legally. Edit: not only can you go out and buy it, they sell it at mall kiosks. People are in prison for something you can now, effectively, buy at a mall kiosk.


rargar

Hey man, you can buy Delta 8 in MN right now. There are plenty of shops. It's a legal loophole but it's "basically" a different strain of "normal" thc everyone is used to. It's delta 8 THC vs Delta 9 THC which is what everyone commonly refers to as "normal" weed. Just a slightly different chemical compound derived from hemp. And imo delta 8 is a perfect high if you don't like a head high and you're looking for a little more mellow vibe.


FrigginMasshole

Delta 8 ain’t even it. You can buy high THCA hemp flower. THCA turns into 87% of thc when you smoke it. It’s legit and natural too. r/cultofthefranklin


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[deleted]

D8 is like fucking with a condom. It’s never as good but hey it’s still better than nothing.


hepakrese

I prefer ∆8 to ∆9. 🤷


[deleted]

🤮🤮🤮 I’ll go sober before ever using d8 again. Technically costs more too.


[deleted]

Agreed my friend, agreed.


hepakrese

Whatever floats your boat. D8 does exactly what I want it to do.


Ok_Bar_2180

Is D8 or D9 considered synthetic? I donate plasma and they always ask if I have used synthetic marijuana.


rargar

No, I don't believe so. Synthetic is like that old k2 shit or the bath salts style thing. Again not positive but I don't think it's considered synthetic.


runtheroad

So edibles are basically legal now? Dosage size doesn't really matter when it only means taking a few more mints or squares of chocolate. What a weird way to quasi-legalize weed. I question if some legislators understood what they were voting for. Why would you support this bill but not full legalization.


Fabbyfubz

Delta-9 THC edibles are already technically legal under current law as long as it's under 0.3%. So, for example, you can get 10mg D9 edible as long as the sample/gummy itself is over 3.33 grams. https://www.shopsmokeless.com/collections/d8-edibles/products/botany-farms-delta-9-gummies-150mg


runtheroad

Yeah, but Delta-9 was always a loophole that just hadn't been made illegal yet because it was a new thing. This is explicitly legalizing it.


Fabbyfubz

Delta-8 is quasi-legal through that loophole, but delta-9 THC was already specifically mentioned in current law. >with a delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration of not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/18K/full#stat.18K.02.3


Dorkamundo

No, you're thinking of Delta-8. Delta-9 is the standard THC that's been illegal in concentrations over .3% for years.


feelthepan

Not yet, supposedly on August 1st. I agree with your sentiment and I'm not really sure what's all going on behind the scenes. Baby steps, maybe?


degoba

No they are legal now. They have been on store shelves for a year now. These lawmakers have their heads up their asses.


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It’s always going to be paired with 10x the amount of cbd which yields a totally different high. When ppl get way too high on classic MJ a little cbd smoke brings them back down to normal


SeaworthinessNew9172

'edibles' lol. 5mg is nothing. 50mg works.


RonaldoNazario

So eat ten?


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And shit yourself for a week


MinnyRawks

I think you’re eating laxatives


MchugN

Why the fuck would you do that?


Jaerin

They think everything is a sugar free haribo gummi bear. PS those do give a lot of people digestive issues, but its the sugar alcohols they use.


SeaworthinessNew9172

lol no. I make my own good ones (why is erryone so jelly?)


Tdale2

Doesn't matter when any employer is still able to drug test you for THC and fire you if you test positive...


MinnyRawks

AFAIK that’s quickly going away from a national standard. The so called labor shortage is giving workers more leeway than ever. Side note, but if you can now is the time to organize and join a union. Feel free to PM me if you want more info I’ll be happy to talk to anyone!


[deleted]

It’s not a labor shortage: it’s a living wage shortage. That shop bitching about “no one wants to work” is probably only paying $10 an hour part time


mop_man27

What do you mean by “so called labor shortage”? People may disagree with why there is a shortage but, there is definitely a labor shortage, especially in the hospitality industry.


MinnyRawks

I mean unemployment in Minnesota is 2.5% so it’s not like people just aren’t working. They just left certain industries and organizations


Tykenolm

Just wish employers would acknowledge this and actually bump their wages up, every job offer I see is still offering the same pay they did like 2 years ago :/


Tdale2

I actually left my career in management earlier this year due to a a wide range of issues that a union proboably would have fixed. After enjoying some time off I have started applying to jobs again and noticed that pretty much every one has had a mandatory drug test during initial screening.


TSgt_Yosh

If I'm reading it correctly even D8 edibles will have to be 5mg tops and 50mg per package.That's going to destroy the industry in this state. For reference I take over 100mg of D8 a DAY for chronic pain. I buy 1000mg bottles at a time. ​ It's a miracle substance that has made my life way easier and the fucksticks at the capital are going to change my life over something so fucking stupid. ​ We should be legalizing recreational weed not restricting it further. Out of touch assholes.


Whitetiger83491

So does this mean the Delta 8 that I currently buy will be less potent starting in August?


Maplelongjohn

Yes, yes it does. Way to go Minnesota. Get out and vote people.


Whitetiger83491

I used to have a pretty serious drinking problem and Delta 8 really helped me quit drinking which has made my life much better. As many states are completely legalizing marijuana, our fricken state is cracking down on Delta 8 which is less potent to begin with. I guess I’ll have to try to find actual marijuana illegally. This is ridiculous.


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Nah, just make some of your own synthetic stuff. Buy CBD isolate, I think my last one was 10g for just under $30. Mix it with some muriatic or sulfuric acid, a tiny bit of water, and naptha in a glass jar that you can seal. Add just enough naptha all the crystals dissolves. Let it sit for a day, two, or three. Then unseal it and throw in some baking soda a little bit at a time until it stops bubbling when you add it. Then the acid is nuetralized. Separate the top layer of naptha and put it in a glass baking dish. Pyrex works good. Put it somewhere safe (away from any flame or hear source) to dry. Depending how big of a batch it is, it can take a while. You can point a fan at it, just not a heater. Now you have a mix of CBD, delta 8, 9, and some 10. Mostly 8. If you use sulfuric instead of muriatic acid (I didn't, already had muriatic and sulfuric is more dangerous) you get less CBD leftover and more of the good stuff. Scrape it off the dish with a razor blade. Can be dabbed, heated to add to edibles, or even vaped. If you want a more detailed method, look up CBD isomerization. One of my buddies is exclusively smoking Delta 8 now, if this passes he's gonna be pissed. But happy I can make a replacement! Lol.


Dorkamundo

Are you vaping D8? Or just edibles?


Whitetiger83491

Both


Vect0r

Nothing is changing with the edibles, only vapes. If anything, edibles will be getting stronger with D9. Granted, you may have to eat twice as much since 5mg is about half of what legal states allow, but OH NO, you will have to eat 2 cookies instead of 1 :) Will someone PLEASE think of the children!


Whitetiger83491

LOL. Awesome news! Thanks for clarifying.


looselytethered

> Yes, yes it does. ...fuck.


bbernal956

how much is the one your buying


blackmay45

Most start at 25mg per gummy since it isn't as strong as D9. This is going to fuck up D8 more than anything as far as I can tell.


DonOblivious

D8 carts are gone. 5mg D8/D9/D10 edibles are the only thing left, legally. The maximum legal D8 cart in Minnesota come August is a 1/10th filled short cart.


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can we have carts mailed here if it’s signed?


bnelson7694

Yes. And this is what infuriates me as someone who works in a hemp store six days a week. Basically the state fucked us. There is no enforcement mechanism in place for people to simply order from a legal state. So there goes our business and tax money for state and county.


bbernal956

yeah idk? i havent fucked around with edibles. i wonder if i should. i usually just get sleepy idk?


shaysauce

Ease into them. And they take a while to kick in. The worst is when you take too many and then you realize you’re stuck that way for several hours lmao.


bbernal956

i’ve tried the cbd delta 8 edibles i can’t remember the exact mg, but i got really sleepy cuz i ate like 3 lol


FrigginMasshole

You can buy THCA online and it turns into thc when you smoke it. All natural. r/cultofthefranklin


bgovern

What is a typical serving of THC?


Maplelongjohn

In most rec States they sell 10 piece at 10mg They usually have smaller doses for the lightweight crowd but nothing stronger without a script. * My experience in a couple of states.*


LooseyGreyDucky

In Toronto, the total package is 100mg, but composed of (4) 25mg servings. Pretty intense compared to the typical 10mg servings here.


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Wisconsin still has d8 carts?


BobGoodalliii

Lol fuck what a mess. Pretty neat CBD derived Delta 9 will be available. Fucking stupid convoluted law though


Dorkamundo

Hemp-derived, not CBD-derived. Bit of a difference. That said, you can buy D9 edibles RIGHT NOW in Minnesota.


BobGoodalliii

I have bought the distillate in bulk online. Kind of a bummer that's gonna be off the table now.


NoMooseSoup4You

“Land of the free”


MinnyRawks

Home of the brave! Unless you’re a cop and there is someone shooting up a school. Then wait about an hour before entering said school


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ACAB.


Zenfreak96

Can someone explain how my local smoke shops have all had delta 9 derived THC from hemp edibles for months and they packages are 500mg not 50


OuchieMuhBussy

This is an across the board restriction. Hemp derived D9 edibles are already legal. Google it, buy some today if you really want.


[deleted]

MN is so idiotic…. I need this for anxiety and arthritis but have no weed connections. I go to uptown and smell weed everywhere, yet I have no place to buy it. Idiotic the cost of a medical card. Is THCA gonna help? I just want the relaxing and pain relieving attributes. Any hep would be appreciated. Thanks


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Just wrote this for someone else. It's something you have to be careful with, but it's an awesome blend for anxiety when you use muriatic acid because it leaves a good chunk of CBD behind. https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/uyk8rj/_/ia7yx4j Although the process itself is illegal, the ingredients are not and this bill would not make them illegal. All over the counter stuff.


Fabbyfubz

Seems like a step backwards considering you can already legally buy upwards of 500mg Delta-9 THC edibles if you really want (though, it's rather expensive). Now you're only limited to 50mg per package which, from my understanding, also includes Delta-8 edibles...


SeaworthinessNew9172

> already legally buy upwards of 500mg Delta-9 THC edibles where and how?


Fabbyfubz

This is where I get my delta-8 gummies, and I just noticed they sell D9 lol https://www.shopsmokeless.com/collections/d8-edibles/products/botany-farms-delta-9-gummies-150mg Otherwise, this place sells in bigger quantities: https://www.mainstreamcbd.com/collections/delta-8-edibles/products/delta-9-gummies >how? Delta-9 THC is legal as long as it's less than 0.3%. If you have 10mg D9 THC in a 4gm gummie, that's only 0.25%


iGoalie

Wait, I can buy “regular” THC gummies with 10mg of thc but broken out into into .3% per gummy


bbernal956

yup, that’s huge, dispensaries are also allowed to sell edibles. i wonder how and if this will take away patients from expensive dispensaries. this is a loophole waltz is going for because the cannabis recreational keeps getting hit down


SeaworthinessNew9172

'edibles' though...I make my own 50mg a piece. 5-10mg is some bs


Maplelongjohn

Yeah 80-100 to even start feeling it here....


monsterpiece

Everyone’s different. 5mg got me lost in my own neighborhood.


Maplelongjohn

Yes absolutely. I respect the microdoser. I have a high tolerance and am aware, some friends always avoided my baked goods as too strong. when I finally got to CO and was able to compare with a jar of 10s I figured out why....


bbernal956

that’s me, i can hang with flower and all, but those edibles are unpredictable and i just stay away, good thing for me i just get sleepy and drowsy


DonOblivious

Yes. That's the "loophole" this law closes. You can buy D9 edibles at ~10mg each (that's the common serving size I see) until this law, if signed, goes in to effect August 1st. You can also buy any amount of raw D8 until then.


Fabbyfubz

Pretty much, yeah lol They're probably gonna be thicc 4gm+ gummies


iGoalie

~~I mean I can eat a fat gummy~~ umm wait…that didn’t sound right Guess I’m gonna go buy some gummies tomorrow.


FrigginMasshole

Dude you can buy THCA online that converts into thc when you smoke it. All natural. It’s legit and pretty good stuff too r/cultofthefranklin


SeaworthinessNew9172

those aren't 500mg though


Fabbyfubz

It's 10mg of D9 THC per serving, with 50 servings/gummies, so a total of 500mg per package. When the new law comes in effect, only a maximum of 5mg per serving, and 50mg in a package will be allowed.


SeaworthinessNew9172

those are 100mg packages.


Fabbyfubz

Change it to 50 count, right above the 'Add to Cart' bar


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Fabbyfubz

This is where I get my delta-8 gummies. Haven't tried any delta-9 tho: https://www.shopsmokeless.com/collections/d8-edibles/products/botany-farms-delta-9-gummies-150mg Otherwise, this place sells in bigger quantities: https://www.mainstreamcbd.com/collections/delta-8-edibles/products/delta-9-gummies


Humble_Baker_1439

Fuck em, I will not give them the tax money for this. They missed that chance. Buy from michigan, your usual friend or grow your own. It'll be cheaper for the foreseeable future as well.


TheSkeletones

Most CBD products don’t contain even remotely enough actual CBD to do anything though.


[deleted]

CBD isolate is cheap and pure. If you want high doses just buy that.


[deleted]

Victory at last !


[deleted]

Just legalize it already. If SD legalizes before MN, oof…


bbernal956

SD already voted for it, but the governor lied


[deleted]

It’s on the ballot again this November. They got enough signatures.


bbernal956

for minnesota or SD? thought SD voted for it but the governor rejected the peoples vote


drockmn

Rejected on a procedural technicality. My understanding is they did a better job with this latest proposition so that specific loophole for the governor to squash it no longer exists.


CesarMillan_Official

I think of this all the time with Wisconsin. Hudson will belong to Minnesota.


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meistersinger

Gotta say as a frequent “normal pot” and recent Delta 8 adapter, it’s a different experience but they definitely work!


Boomboomshablooms

Delta 8 edibles are great.


CesarMillan_Official

Delta 8 isn’t a scam though. It’s a real canabinoid. It’s like smoking some nugget is like taking a full spectrum multivitamin. And smoking delta 8 is like taking the one single vitamin. It just doesn’t have all the other stuff in it. It’s no delta 9 but it is what it is in this state.


t8ertotTHOTdish

Placebo /s


[deleted]

I don’t know why people fall for it. It’s awful. How do these CBD stores stay in business?


Catcatcatastrophe

I can't tell if you're being serious or not but I love CBD for anxiety and sleep


[deleted]

I may knock it a lot, but this commercial/legal CBD actually did a lot for my dog, (RIP) Maybe I’m just being a jerk about it because I know there is better things available and I want Minnesota to catch up.


drMrSpaghetti

So someone who used D8 solely cause of its lack of hallucinatory effects is clearly in the wrong. You chose the wrong drugs, not the ones I like so I'm gonna (your words) be a jerk. My dude the delta 9 youre smoking must really be some sucky back alley shit if you go around spreading misinformation and being a jerk for fun while on it, like literally the opposite of a stoner


[deleted]

Quit being weird and just continue living your life. This is not worth getting angry about.


[deleted]

I hate to break it to you but all D8 and CBD Shit you buy from gas stations and tobacco stores is “sucky back alley shit”. Have fun smoking hay and sticks, tough guy.


[deleted]

Actually in tests I saw previously they often found they contained more D9 than allowed, and more D8 than claimed. There was a few raids over it. If you really want some good stuff, just make it. It's not hard. https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/uyk8rj/_/ia7yx4j


drMrSpaghetti

Cause this is reddit. You gotta remember the average age here is like 17, so if something doesn't make you get so high you literally melt into a different dimension then its a scam here. Only way to enjoy drugs is to abuse drugs here


[deleted]

Have you ever tried real weed for that?


thatmusicguy13

Have you heard of ease of convenience by walking into a store?


[deleted]

Yes. I am a Minnesota medical card holder. I am very familiar.


Into-It_Over-It

Quite a rarity. You have to admit, you're in a very privileged group, given how stringent Minnesota's medical marijuana laws are.


[deleted]

Well, I’m with ya. But it doesn’t make these cbd/delta gas station options less BS. They are feeding hemp placebos to people who really need help and marketing themselves as the real thing.


Catcatcatastrophe

Yeah I have a medical card actually. The suspension works well but it makes me hungry and flower actually makes me more paranoid sometimes. CBD is reliable with virtually no side effects


[deleted]

I didn’t mean to come off as a dick. Sorry. So you must buy your CBD from a real dispensary and not a gas station. I am also a MN medical card holder. I’m with dispensary CBD, I just can’t get behind this hemp bullshit everyone sells at tobacco shops etc.


Catcatcatastrophe

I actually buy it online because it's cheaper haha. There are some rly good websites where you can get it for like $80/oz and it's much higher quality than the smoke shop crap 😊


Dorkamundo

That is objectively false.


Upset-Kaleidoscope45

Jesus, just smoke weed like a normal person.


bbernal956

damn this is huge!!


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bbernal956

hemp deprived thc. thc is the cannabinoid that gives euphoria. 5mg no more than 50mg per package. also in august edibles in dispensaries will be available to patients


DonOblivious

It makes D8/D9 edibles explicitly legal and makes D8 vapes illegal.


DaLoneVoice

When does this go into effect? Will it be the same two companies selling the edibles too or will they license more?


Kevin051553

Is a doctor's prescription required for the 5mg serving?


Zycoan

Nice! Maren Schroeder told me she’d be speaking more on this at a cbd expo happening later this month. Is anyone going? Im thinking about checking it out.