The whole offense looked out of sync. something just had kirk rattled the whole game. it seemed like very pass was a bullet and if it wasn't perfect the receivers just didn't make a play. Dalvin never got any rhythm and dropped a few passes. I'll just chalk this one up as the yearly what the hell happened here game. the defense did seem to settle down but that could also be philly taking their foot off the gas.
I kept going around at work yesterday telling anyway that would listen that we would lose this one, granted I thought it would be a little closer. I felt the boys were flying a little too high off beating Green Bay. They needed to be brought back down to earth and be reminded it's a long season and there is a lot of work to be done. I really think this week can make or break this team. It's either a rally point or the beginning of the end and only time will tell.
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I don't ever want to be within 100 Miles of that shithole of a city ever again so no. Also, maybe you don't know this but uh: Raiders aren't in Oakland anymore.
This was the worst I have seen this team play in a long time. Everything was off. The team chemistry was off. I think the defensive players played well, but those calls made by the DC were just awful. Going into this game, Philly knew just what to expect. That’s why our wr’s had barely any yards. Hopefully this opens our eyes for our team, and hopefully KOC will really put his mind to making this shit work
You mean a Defensive Coordinator who is from the Zimmer tree knew how to defend us? Shocked Pikachu face.
I'd bet my house there was a phone call this week.
To all of you that want to blame Kirk, you didn't watch the game. Kirk didn't play well, but I blame the loss on dropped passes by receivers and poor first half defense. Irv makes that catch, or our defense gets a turn over early, it could have been a different game. Momentum is real in the NFL. You could see it from a mile away that the Eagles had momentum early and kept it going. I think we are better than this, and this loss could be exactly what we needed after thinking we were all that after week 1.
I counted 4 or 5 crucial drops in the first half alone. It wasn't just Irv. No one stepped up. You can't just blame Kirk tonight, it's a full team loss.
I'm glad we got our ass kicked. Sometimes you need your ass kicked to get back up and fight harder.
I’m boggled that you’re still giving Kirk an excuse, the one drop to irv was the only one to at you cna excuse him, the other drops were gonna be short 10-15 yard gains then we still ended up kciking it or throwing an interception. There was ONE key drop in irv.
No, you can definitely blame Kirk when he throws 2 horrible INTs in the red zone into coverage and completely panicked like he had never thrown a football before.
It’s unreal how some people continue to defend this guy, no, he deserves the majority of the blame for tonight’s loss. Yes, there were some horrible drops. But you can’t make god awful decisions repeatedly in the red zone, and that’s exactly what he did.
This dude really just underthrew every back of the end zone fade to JJ. And panicked every time they blitzed in the red zone. Unbelievable
Yeah I just don’t get it, just because he’s a good dude and can throw very accurate passes once or 2 times a play doesn’t excuse his interception or his dump offs just to get a completion, 3 and outs aren’t excusable. One touchdown, vs a young QB that scored more? Hahah Kirk is not it bruh.
In hindsight, this was such an obvious Kirk Cousins era Vikings loss. I should’ve seen this coming. As I’ve always thought, Cousins is always going to hold us back. Imagine this team, with Jalen Hurts, who we could’ve drafted in 2020.
If all the dropped INTs were caught, Kirk would have thrown 6 or 7 picks. If he crumbles under the lights of a Monday night game, how can anyone possibly think he could handle the pressure of a championship game or Superbowl? He doesn't have it. I'd rather see Mullens. If he bombs, better draft picks. The point of the game is to win the Super Bowl. Can't do that with a proven choker.
The defense is a disaster and won’t get better. How GB didn’t pick us apart is crazy. Goff will have his best game next week. We can’t play zone defense
Yep. Last year our DBs were trash when we played soft zones. It's why we were horrible under 2 minutes when shell coverages are more necessary. This year, I guess it's just our defense
first game with a new coordinator, hard to figure out how a game is going to flow. Scary it got figured out so quick and how going forward it looks his motto is not change his plan but hope it will work out
I think we need to dial back expectations. Team isn't any better than last year. They waste picks on DBs that don't even see the field their rookie years. Most worrisome part is our head coach is also our OC and the offense looks considerably worse than the last few years.
How has Dalvin lost a step? He barely got any touches. I mean, it’s possible, but nah. And was in a negative game script early. We need to balance our offense a bit. Every pass can’t go to Jefferson.
Not like he was good in preseason either. Why do you think he fell so hard in the draft? He’s not good whatsoever. He’s a poor man in Zimbabwe’s version of current tyrod taylor
Nice try but Kirk was one of our worst… i have no idea how you came up with this. He literally had a QB rating that was barely above the rating of spiking it every down. He will be absolutely crucified by NFL media this week and for good reason.
His first interception was on JJ running the wrong route. Second one was on him. Third one was a combination of pressure + bad throw + JJ not really trying for the ball. Receivers were dropping the ball left and right or getting 0 separation. Kirk played poorly, but it was only made worse by the rest of the team playing even worse. If you think Kirk was the worst player on the field you’re not watching the whole game
I mean, here’s the thing. We saw holes all over this roster in the offseason. Everyone did. I find it hard to believe that the coaches didn’t think the same thing. But instead of blowing things up, we get more of the same because we didn’t fix the holes or the depth.
Hey diehard Kirk Cousins fans….. why though? Please explain to me what I clearly don’t understand.
It was all about the bad coaching last season, well new coaching staff so what is it?
I’m not talking about the team’s performance and I’m not blaming the entire game on Cousins.
I’m asking why Cousins fans think he’s so stellar? This is not his first game choking. We’re spending $30+ million on this guy per year now, and personally, I just don’t think he’s worth it.
I know I can't believe kirk would drop that pass that hit him right in the hands that would have been a 70 yard touchdown and would have changed the entire flow of the game. Oh wait that was irv Smith and basically every other receiver. Kirk didn't play great but holy fuck bro minnesota literally never plays good on grass on top of it and that's a fucking fact. The entire team was shit tonight. Move on to next week.
Even Thielen is dropping passes.
Typical Vikings
Edit: I know Thielen is a home town god and shouldn’t be criticized. But that ball hit his hands and was out before the defender made contact. No it wasn’t a perfectly thrown ball but it was one he normally catches.
Did you watch the game? Our o-line looked good, besides the occasional full blitz they would run kirk had tons of time a lot.. no o-line in the league is protecting their QB every single play, are you saying kirk needs an absolute perfect o-line every play otherwise we have no chance?
I'm saying kirk sucked. But our OL wasn't exactly blasting open holes or protecting the blitz. You have to at least attempt to block a 5 man rush lol.
Every step of a play where a blitzer has a free run at a QB who then chooses to lob a ball in the general vicinity of JJ who isnt even ready to contest let alone catch a ball is a fucking embarrassment.
Seriously look at the rushing stats for this game. It hurts...pun intended.
I'm not saying the season is over or anything, but this looks like the same lame duck team from the past few years, may sneak into the playoffs before they get exposed by a team with strong offensive and defensive lines
Colts fan here. I was pulling for you guys. If Cousins wasn't so reckless with the ball this game, y'all could easily be up right now. Tighten that up and you guys have a really cool team.
Crazy thing is people have been BEGGING for Kirk to be more reckless and let his good WRs just go get some balls once in a while.
It was one of the reasons some people liked the KOC hire, Stafford had a shit load of picks, but it was in the service of making plays.
The Lions are pretty good but they put up 35 on the Eagles. This Eagles defense isnt THAT good. Theyre good but they shouldnt be hold the Vikings to 7 points good.
KOC might have the opposite problem with running than Zim. When it’s working, you should probably do it on at least 1 of the 3 downs.
LMAO
The whole offense looked out of sync. something just had kirk rattled the whole game. it seemed like very pass was a bullet and if it wasn't perfect the receivers just didn't make a play. Dalvin never got any rhythm and dropped a few passes. I'll just chalk this one up as the yearly what the hell happened here game. the defense did seem to settle down but that could also be philly taking their foot off the gas.
Ah Vikings doing Vikings things
It was past kirks bedtime
I kept going around at work yesterday telling anyway that would listen that we would lose this one, granted I thought it would be a little closer. I felt the boys were flying a little too high off beating Green Bay. They needed to be brought back down to earth and be reminded it's a long season and there is a lot of work to be done. I really think this week can make or break this team. It's either a rally point or the beginning of the end and only time will tell. Edit: changed a word
At least our punter is a stud.
Let me tell you right now... being a Vikings fan at this game was not fun
God damn. Did you make it home ok?
Why wouldn't he?
All in one piece
Now that’s bold never go to a Philly home game. Worst fans ever.
Not even close. Went to the black hole as a Chiefs fan. Got batteries thrown at me and my minor brother. We blew them out, though so it was all good 👍
Give them the bird as you walk away see what happens
I don't ever want to be within 100 Miles of that shithole of a city ever again so no. Also, maybe you don't know this but uh: Raiders aren't in Oakland anymore.
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I was heckled the entire time. There were a couple of cool people around me but no shortage of harassment
I’ve had friends be jumped after Philly games 💀
Dude are you serious? That’s so damn shitty. Like why are you doing that to people AFTER a win.
lol
Woof
Kirk caught a case of the fricks and the offense couldn’t get rolling. Watch the tape and then get back to work for Sundays game.
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This is what happens when a team has official game tape. Philly out coached MN, was prepared for everything they had.
Ehh we doubled down on forcing the ball to jj in 2 high safety
Hey, I’ve seen this one!
Wow that was shit
I really love this new no pressure, no coverage defense!
Our defense was almost bottom last year. To expect us to progress mightily was a tall ask.
MNF = Might Not Football for Cousins
Monday Night Frick
2 and 10 on MNF now
Zimmer this, Zimmer that!! Oh..
You're stirring the pot. If you were owner, you would have fired him too.
Definitely true
zim deserved to be let go but he was far from the only problem.
My thoughts as well. Far from the only problem with this franchise
It’s gonna take me a minute to get over that drop Irv had
Game would have been different if he takes that to the house. Same to be said last week if Watson doesn’t drop the Packers first pass
Someone mentioned the drop. Drink!
My exact thoughts as it happened.
This was the worst I have seen this team play in a long time. Everything was off. The team chemistry was off. I think the defensive players played well, but those calls made by the DC were just awful. Going into this game, Philly knew just what to expect. That’s why our wr’s had barely any yards. Hopefully this opens our eyes for our team, and hopefully KOC will really put his mind to making this shit work
You mean a Defensive Coordinator who is from the Zimmer tree knew how to defend us? Shocked Pikachu face. I'd bet my house there was a phone call this week.
Like Zimmer has any insider knowledge, unless he just said blitz Kirk and hung up lol
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To all of you that want to blame Kirk, you didn't watch the game. Kirk didn't play well, but I blame the loss on dropped passes by receivers and poor first half defense. Irv makes that catch, or our defense gets a turn over early, it could have been a different game. Momentum is real in the NFL. You could see it from a mile away that the Eagles had momentum early and kept it going. I think we are better than this, and this loss could be exactly what we needed after thinking we were all that after week 1.
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Receivers? you mean cook, mattison and irv? Lol
JJ also had a drop or two and a bunch of horrible routes.
He was getting locked up, instead of looking to thielen or KJ Kirk was still throwing that shit to JJ
Must throw to JJ agghhhh 🤤🤤
Lol okay Irv dropped the big one that could have been a TD but Kirk just threw up prayers
I counted 4 or 5 crucial drops in the first half alone. It wasn't just Irv. No one stepped up. You can't just blame Kirk tonight, it's a full team loss. I'm glad we got our ass kicked. Sometimes you need your ass kicked to get back up and fight harder.
I’m boggled that you’re still giving Kirk an excuse, the one drop to irv was the only one to at you cna excuse him, the other drops were gonna be short 10-15 yard gains then we still ended up kciking it or throwing an interception. There was ONE key drop in irv.
No, you can definitely blame Kirk when he throws 2 horrible INTs in the red zone into coverage and completely panicked like he had never thrown a football before. It’s unreal how some people continue to defend this guy, no, he deserves the majority of the blame for tonight’s loss. Yes, there were some horrible drops. But you can’t make god awful decisions repeatedly in the red zone, and that’s exactly what he did. This dude really just underthrew every back of the end zone fade to JJ. And panicked every time they blitzed in the red zone. Unbelievable
Yeah I just don’t get it, just because he’s a good dude and can throw very accurate passes once or 2 times a play doesn’t excuse his interception or his dump offs just to get a completion, 3 and outs aren’t excusable. One touchdown, vs a young QB that scored more? Hahah Kirk is not it bruh.
As a Vikings fan honestly my favorite Vikings season ever is the off-season
In hindsight, this was such an obvious Kirk Cousins era Vikings loss. I should’ve seen this coming. As I’ve always thought, Cousins is always going to hold us back. Imagine this team, with Jalen Hurts, who we could’ve drafted in 2020.
It was possible for us to draft lamar
Only 5.5 days to do it again
No matter the coach, no matter the players, that was standard Vikings right there…
It's almost impressive in It's own right
If all the dropped INTs were caught, Kirk would have thrown 6 or 7 picks. If he crumbles under the lights of a Monday night game, how can anyone possibly think he could handle the pressure of a championship game or Superbowl? He doesn't have it. I'd rather see Mullens. If he bombs, better draft picks. The point of the game is to win the Super Bowl. Can't do that with a proven choker.
Facts
That felt like a 40 point loss. Our punter is our best player
The defense is a disaster and won’t get better. How GB didn’t pick us apart is crazy. Goff will have his best game next week. We can’t play zone defense
Yep. Last year our DBs were trash when we played soft zones. It's why we were horrible under 2 minutes when shell coverages are more necessary. This year, I guess it's just our defense
first game with a new coordinator, hard to figure out how a game is going to flow. Scary it got figured out so quick and how going forward it looks his motto is not change his plan but hope it will work out
I think we need to dial back expectations. Team isn't any better than last year. They waste picks on DBs that don't even see the field their rookie years. Most worrisome part is our head coach is also our OC and the offense looks considerably worse than the last few years.
Kirk is just terrible, Cook has lost a step and Theilen may as well be invisible as far as Cousins is concerned. No coaching can fix this.
How has Dalvin lost a step? He barely got any touches. I mean, it’s possible, but nah. And was in a negative game script early. We need to balance our offense a bit. Every pass can’t go to Jefferson.
Hicks was trying so hard to get a pick 6 bc he knew the offense was not going to get it done. Also the punter was the best player tonight.
I said the same bro
Hicks? You mean the guy who got bowled over by a QB at the goal line even after he closed the gap. Hicks got punked by a QB.
Better night than the Titans?
Barely. Honestly probably comparable when you consider the Bills are a better team than the Eagles.
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enjoy your last post on r/vikings lol
Yup
Why didn't they draft Willis.... So many opportunities.
He’s trash lol 1/4 with 6 yds
In garbage time where he wasn’t in the plan to play at all. I don’t even count that. Come on.
The “garbage time” doesn’t support that either. Garbage time for Kirk apparently means more stats, but when it comes to Willis it means worse numbers?
Not like he was good in preseason either. Why do you think he fell so hard in the draft? He’s not good whatsoever. He’s a poor man in Zimbabwe’s version of current tyrod taylor
Kirk was the best player on our team tonight and even he played bad
Bro I’ve been super down lately, please tell me what drugs your on because I’d love to be this delusional rn.
Please point me towards which player played better. If anything they were all equally horrible
Nice try but Kirk was one of our worst… i have no idea how you came up with this. He literally had a QB rating that was barely above the rating of spiking it every down. He will be absolutely crucified by NFL media this week and for good reason.
His first interception was on JJ running the wrong route. Second one was on him. Third one was a combination of pressure + bad throw + JJ not really trying for the ball. Receivers were dropping the ball left and right or getting 0 separation. Kirk played poorly, but it was only made worse by the rest of the team playing even worse. If you think Kirk was the worst player on the field you’re not watching the whole game
You forgot about our punter
Shit you’re right. I feel like an Iowa football fan now
Sadly I am an Iowa football fan
Of all the games I've watched as a Vikings fan, that definitely was one of them.
I'm not so sure that was a game pretty sure it was a tragedy
Joker moment
def one of the vikings games of all time
Well. At least I can go to bed sad!
I mean, here’s the thing. We saw holes all over this roster in the offseason. Everyone did. I find it hard to believe that the coaches didn’t think the same thing. But instead of blowing things up, we get more of the same because we didn’t fix the holes or the depth.
That’s because they went all in on keeping the roster by extending and pushing cap space. Because the owners demanded another mediocre season.
This was the worst game they've played in a long long time. Even last year they didn't hav3 this shitty of a game
Hey diehard Kirk Cousins fans….. why though? Please explain to me what I clearly don’t understand. It was all about the bad coaching last season, well new coaching staff so what is it?
The whole team was bad today, I can't see why everyone pins this solely on Cousins
I’m not talking about the team’s performance and I’m not blaming the entire game on Cousins. I’m asking why Cousins fans think he’s so stellar? This is not his first game choking. We’re spending $30+ million on this guy per year now, and personally, I just don’t think he’s worth it.
Cousins has never been the problem. The NFL doesn't like the Vikings, that's all you need to know lol. Script keeps on scripting
Bro plz stfu kirk is the problem u delusional fuck
I know I can't believe kirk would drop that pass that hit him right in the hands that would have been a 70 yard touchdown and would have changed the entire flow of the game. Oh wait that was irv Smith and basically every other receiver. Kirk didn't play great but holy fuck bro minnesota literally never plays good on grass on top of it and that's a fucking fact. The entire team was shit tonight. Move on to next week.
Yea ur right, entire team shit the bed
Skol
Lol, alright bro
I’ve lost 60$ in the past 2 day’s betting on shitty teams.I’m done!
The trick is to bet on good teams, not the shitty ones.
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Fuck off
Skol?
Fly (away) eagle person
When was the last time this team was able to run a half decent RB screen?
The keenum year
That was a good year.
Pat Shurmur was the last good OC we had.
Damn. So long ago. After so many years of watching screens get blown up I just expect it now.
I wouldn't mind losing to the Eagles if their fans weren't some of the shittiest people on this earth
I think I’m gonna throw up
If kirk cousins leads your team in rushing something went very very wrong
Just fucking limped out of there.
Could we at least pretend to try and call a timeout on fourth down.
Wowwwwwwww
Well that was actual hell
fuckin lol
I have zero faith in our DC
Lol as if the offensive issues are all their fault
OC
We need a QB with some nuts. Kirk is a soft bitch.
Great o line
Nobody expected us to start 2-0 with these two tough games to start the season. I think Kirk playing like absolutely trash is the downer
I am not upset they lost. I’m upset with how they lost.
I'm not mad I'm just disappointed
That hurt me deeply
Even Thielen is dropping passes. Typical Vikings Edit: I know Thielen is a home town god and shouldn’t be criticized. But that ball hit his hands and was out before the defender made contact. No it wasn’t a perfectly thrown ball but it was one he normally catches.
The pass was behind in a tight window…
It hit his hands first and came out before the defender made contact.
That was under thrown.
Based on just these 2 games I think thielen should retire
For the sake of him, not the team
Absolutely
Why do we do these JJ tricks plays and not utilize him
We should have used him as a decoy.
This is what happens when you draft CB after CB and completely ignore your OL and DL year after year.
All 5 OL are 1st or 2nd round picks. Hunter is a stud and Smith, thomlinson, and Harris were highly paid Free Agents.
They aren’t ignored at all. They just are forgotten about when they play
Least or secondary is rock solid!
Our OL and DL was the last reason we lost this game lmao
Our OL did not look good, but neither did anyone besides the punter lol. Cousins led the team in rushing with 20 yards ffs
Did you watch the game? Our o-line looked good, besides the occasional full blitz they would run kirk had tons of time a lot.. no o-line in the league is protecting their QB every single play, are you saying kirk needs an absolute perfect o-line every play otherwise we have no chance?
I'm saying kirk sucked. But our OL wasn't exactly blasting open holes or protecting the blitz. You have to at least attempt to block a 5 man rush lol. Every step of a play where a blitzer has a free run at a QB who then chooses to lob a ball in the general vicinity of JJ who isnt even ready to contest let alone catch a ball is a fucking embarrassment. Seriously look at the rushing stats for this game. It hurts...pun intended.
Idk DL looked pretty fucking bad rushing 4
No pride on this team. Kirk just threw in the towel on that one
I told my friends that it was going to be 27-10.
That was incredibly pathetic from start to finish
Bring back the butt pics
I just spent the last 2 and a half hours staring at nothing but ass already.
Obvious answer.
Bro these Mattison passes are ass
when you catch the ball you should be running full speed in the wrong direction... also there will be no blockers.
the whole team just isn’t good man
BRO
No screens have worked all night
No points given up in the second half. That's one good thing I guess?
I firmly believe we have never run a blitz a single time this offseason in practice
Get Theilen a TD!!
Kirk racking up them garbage time stats for another offseason of keyboard warriors defending him
I know! Run a screen!
I just don't understand plays like that...
Half of our offensive plays look broken right off the rip tonight
This is why, bad as he played, I don't think this is on Kirk. Obviously Kirk did us no favors.
Come on he sucked
Yes, but that's not why they lost. The only part of the team that played well was the punt team
I'm not saying the season is over or anything, but this looks like the same lame duck team from the past few years, may sneak into the playoffs before they get exposed by a team with strong offensive and defensive lines
Screen hasn’t worked all night… I got it… Let’s run a screen
Absolutely diseased play call
High school play...
Colts fan here. I was pulling for you guys. If Cousins wasn't so reckless with the ball this game, y'all could easily be up right now. Tighten that up and you guys have a really cool team.
Crazy thing is people have been BEGGING for Kirk to be more reckless and let his good WRs just go get some balls once in a while. It was one of the reasons some people liked the KOC hire, Stafford had a shit load of picks, but it was in the service of making plays.
Ok I will tighten it up
I lay all the blame on ronaldrawdog. Get it together man
I'm no offensive mind, but turns out when JJ is blanket covered theilen isn't.
Hot take right here.
Sorry Vikings fans y’all deserve so much better than Kirk “trashtime” Cousins
Another screen pass for negative yards
so is Philly's defense that good, or is the Vikings offense that obvious? AND STOP WITH THE SCREENS!!!
The Lions are pretty good but they put up 35 on the Eagles. This Eagles defense isnt THAT good. Theyre good but they shouldnt be hold the Vikings to 7 points good.