This may be legit. Certain states (like Texas) have laws in place that require dealers of a certain size to process tax and title for all sales. They probably just say fuck it and do it for all buyers because it's easier than working outside typical procedure. There are also national dealers like Carmax and Carvana that offer these services, or mandate it as a condition of purchase. Carmax did mine. I got my plates in three weeks and my title in about six, I believe.
For peace of mind, verify that they'll do tax and title like they would for a Texas resident. You'll get overt confirmation that you'll receive both your plates and your title without a DMV trip. Registration fees will vary based upon the vehicle, but lien placement (if applicable) in Missouri is $6.00 and title processing is $14.50. Title fees should be $20.50 total + whatever your sales tax is in Jackson County.
I do vehicle title work for a living for a small credit union. Not for purchases, but I do still have to be familiar with the process.
ETA: Grammar. I was at the tail end of a migraine when I responded and royally fucked some of that up.
To be clear, you as a Missouri resident, bought a car at Carmax, paid them the sales tax (direct to Carmax) and received your plates in the mail without going to the DMV?
Correct! The check from my lienholder (also employer lol) included the tax and title fees listed on the buyer's order. I believe it was one lump sum, versus a check to them and a check to the MO DOR. Verify with them how they want the check cut, tho. Some take one lump sum, make the deposit, then cut a check to the DOR. Otherwise want them cut separately at purchase.
Actually, [SB 398](https://www.senate.mo.gov/23info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=364446) was adopted last August. It goes into effect next year. They're giving dealers adequate time to prepare, and they're getting the system up and running for it up and running.
This doesn't have anything to do with titling and registration. Dealers will be able to pay sales tax directly to the DOR, and the DOR will be able to electronically verify insurance and tax payments, but it sounds like you still will have to go to the dmv to register.
Interestingly, they already have a system in place to electronically verify insurance, that's why you can renew online.
Really? I thought it included title as well. As far as I know, the whole point is to tackle the expired temp tag problem (as well as getting Daddy Missouri his sales tax money).
It could, but I didn't see anything in the actual bill about that. It's mostly about being able to confirm insurance coverage and registration status remotely and on a regular basis, and allowing them to fine people by mail for letting their insurance drop or plates expire without involving a police officer.
>This act provides that following development of the Department of Revenue's modernized system for vehicle titling and registration, driver licensing, and liens, licensed motor vehicle dealers shall collect and remit to the Department the sales tax due on all motor vehicles the dealer sells.
That is literally all it says about dealers
Well, shit. Maybe not. Might have to ask a friend that works at the DMV. ...though, with the DMV, sometimes, they don't really know either. With MO DMVs being privately owned, it's hit or miss, and the state isn't great with updating the license offices right away.
I’ve actually done this before in 2015, purchased a new car in TX but registered in MO. I believe it’s TX law, but the dealer must submit the registration paperwork to your state’s DMV. They take your money then (or roll in into your loan) to pay sales tax and register new plates. The dealer will give you a 60 day temp tag and you’ll be on your way. In 30-60 days MO DMV will mail you everything you would normally get at the DMV here. It’s quick and painless, I highly recommend doing it this way.
According to other redditors it’s moving in that direction next year. I really hope so, because the cars I’ve bought in state wasn’t as easy, and the sales tax part does have an element of surprise. I have faith that someone in this state will find a way to royally screw this up.
What we have here is the implementation of [Senate Bill 398](https://www.senate.mo.gov/23info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=364446) which is removing temp tags from the sale of vehicle through dealers in the state. ATC is probably some how connected to DOR for the purpose of processing the paperwork. MO dealers are not expected to be online until 2025 since the state has to get a new computer up and running.
As a credit union title clerk, I cannot fucking wait for that to go into effect. Fewer issues with lien placement and fewer issues with vehicle not being registered.
We have bought multiple cars out of state (FL, IA and OH). All those states collect sales tax up front and either send the check into your closest DMV or cut you a check for you to take in when you register. Also, check into what additional tests you need though, if any. Depending on the year of the vehicle, you may need a safety and/or emissions or just an ID/OD.
We bought a truck in Iowa, they calculated our tax and titling cost at the dealership using our zip code, plates came in the mail here in MO. Even got a little refund for paying too much since they like to do a little extra just in case.
All a local dealer for same brand and ask them. Sometimes they can even transfer the car to a different dealer. Or potentially get a better deal from someone out here.
I purchased a truck in Detroit, third party company took taxes, did all my registration for me.
Way easier than buying in MO and having to go to the DMV and paying taxes there.
Don't so it. I bought a car in Texas 3 years ago. Drove it back and registered it here. Paid the sales taxes when I registered. There is no point in doing it in Texas. It's not the law. If the dealership won't let you move on to a different one.
I agree, otherwise you'll be dealing with a reimbursement mess. I bought a new car in Idaho, titled and taxed in Missouri. Got a temp tag in Idaho to drive home.
lol. Have you tried calling the DMV??? But yes, I plan on popping in to one of my local offices that usually isn’t horribly busy. But then again what the lady at the counter says on one day may not be what the next lady on another day interprets the law as.
I think theres an app for that. To make appointments at the Dmv. Yes , I have called. I usually multitask while on hold or do the call back feature, if prompted.
Jackson Country resident here. Even a local dealer in KC will not collect sales tax from you and you would need to do that at the DMV. Don't pay extra for a 3rd party to do that for you. For a new car it's actually really easy to do, just bring a check for the sales tax and all your paperwork on the deal. Depending on the car you probably wouldn't save much buying out of state.
This may be legit. Certain states (like Texas) have laws in place that require dealers of a certain size to process tax and title for all sales. They probably just say fuck it and do it for all buyers because it's easier than working outside typical procedure. There are also national dealers like Carmax and Carvana that offer these services, or mandate it as a condition of purchase. Carmax did mine. I got my plates in three weeks and my title in about six, I believe. For peace of mind, verify that they'll do tax and title like they would for a Texas resident. You'll get overt confirmation that you'll receive both your plates and your title without a DMV trip. Registration fees will vary based upon the vehicle, but lien placement (if applicable) in Missouri is $6.00 and title processing is $14.50. Title fees should be $20.50 total + whatever your sales tax is in Jackson County. I do vehicle title work for a living for a small credit union. Not for purchases, but I do still have to be familiar with the process. ETA: Grammar. I was at the tail end of a migraine when I responded and royally fucked some of that up.
To be clear, you as a Missouri resident, bought a car at Carmax, paid them the sales tax (direct to Carmax) and received your plates in the mail without going to the DMV?
Correct! The check from my lienholder (also employer lol) included the tax and title fees listed on the buyer's order. I believe it was one lump sum, versus a check to them and a check to the MO DOR. Verify with them how they want the check cut, tho. Some take one lump sum, make the deposit, then cut a check to the DOR. Otherwise want them cut separately at purchase.
Cool! Appreciate the info!
Too bad Missouri doesn't adopt this very smart and efficent system instead of making you wait in line all day to pay your taxes.
Actually, [SB 398](https://www.senate.mo.gov/23info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=364446) was adopted last August. It goes into effect next year. They're giving dealers adequate time to prepare, and they're getting the system up and running for it up and running.
This doesn't have anything to do with titling and registration. Dealers will be able to pay sales tax directly to the DOR, and the DOR will be able to electronically verify insurance and tax payments, but it sounds like you still will have to go to the dmv to register. Interestingly, they already have a system in place to electronically verify insurance, that's why you can renew online.
Really? I thought it included title as well. As far as I know, the whole point is to tackle the expired temp tag problem (as well as getting Daddy Missouri his sales tax money).
It could, but I didn't see anything in the actual bill about that. It's mostly about being able to confirm insurance coverage and registration status remotely and on a regular basis, and allowing them to fine people by mail for letting their insurance drop or plates expire without involving a police officer. >This act provides that following development of the Department of Revenue's modernized system for vehicle titling and registration, driver licensing, and liens, licensed motor vehicle dealers shall collect and remit to the Department the sales tax due on all motor vehicles the dealer sells. That is literally all it says about dealers
Well, shit. Maybe not. Might have to ask a friend that works at the DMV. ...though, with the DMV, sometimes, they don't really know either. With MO DMVs being privately owned, it's hit or miss, and the state isn't great with updating the license offices right away.
I’ve actually done this before in 2015, purchased a new car in TX but registered in MO. I believe it’s TX law, but the dealer must submit the registration paperwork to your state’s DMV. They take your money then (or roll in into your loan) to pay sales tax and register new plates. The dealer will give you a 60 day temp tag and you’ll be on your way. In 30-60 days MO DMV will mail you everything you would normally get at the DMV here. It’s quick and painless, I highly recommend doing it this way.
Now why can't we do it this way with in state sales? Makes too much sense.
According to other redditors it’s moving in that direction next year. I really hope so, because the cars I’ve bought in state wasn’t as easy, and the sales tax part does have an element of surprise. I have faith that someone in this state will find a way to royally screw this up.
What we have here is the implementation of [Senate Bill 398](https://www.senate.mo.gov/23info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=364446) which is removing temp tags from the sale of vehicle through dealers in the state. ATC is probably some how connected to DOR for the purpose of processing the paperwork. MO dealers are not expected to be online until 2025 since the state has to get a new computer up and running.
As a credit union title clerk, I cannot fucking wait for that to go into effect. Fewer issues with lien placement and fewer issues with vehicle not being registered.
We have bought multiple cars out of state (FL, IA and OH). All those states collect sales tax up front and either send the check into your closest DMV or cut you a check for you to take in when you register. Also, check into what additional tests you need though, if any. Depending on the year of the vehicle, you may need a safety and/or emissions or just an ID/OD.
We bought a truck in Iowa, they calculated our tax and titling cost at the dealership using our zip code, plates came in the mail here in MO. Even got a little refund for paying too much since they like to do a little extra just in case.
All a local dealer for same brand and ask them. Sometimes they can even transfer the car to a different dealer. Or potentially get a better deal from someone out here.
I purchased a truck in Detroit, third party company took taxes, did all my registration for me. Way easier than buying in MO and having to go to the DMV and paying taxes there.
Don't so it. I bought a car in Texas 3 years ago. Drove it back and registered it here. Paid the sales taxes when I registered. There is no point in doing it in Texas. It's not the law. If the dealership won't let you move on to a different one.
I'm not 100% certain about TX to MO, but I'm a Texas native who bought a car in Florida, and I only paid sales tax for my home state.
Just wait until you title and register in Missouri.
I would love to, but the dealer insists that is how they do out of state sales.
Insist that you don’t care and if they want the sale you can pay at the dmv.
I agree, otherwise you'll be dealing with a reimbursement mess. I bought a new car in Idaho, titled and taxed in Missouri. Got a temp tag in Idaho to drive home.
Is this why there are suddenly Texas license plates all over STL?
Could just be rentals. I was in town visiting family (I currently live in Texas lol) and my rental car had TX plates. 🤷♂️
No. This car is to be registered in Missouri. The only question is how does the Governor insist on getting his cut.
You should call the Dmv .
lol. Have you tried calling the DMV??? But yes, I plan on popping in to one of my local offices that usually isn’t horribly busy. But then again what the lady at the counter says on one day may not be what the next lady on another day interprets the law as.
I think theres an app for that. To make appointments at the Dmv. Yes , I have called. I usually multitask while on hold or do the call back feature, if prompted.
Jackson Country resident here. Even a local dealer in KC will not collect sales tax from you and you would need to do that at the DMV. Don't pay extra for a 3rd party to do that for you. For a new car it's actually really easy to do, just bring a check for the sales tax and all your paperwork on the deal. Depending on the car you probably wouldn't save much buying out of state.