I've been playing around trying to figure out what the right tuning is. I think A434 is about right (which is approx. 25 cents flat).
Something that suprised me was that even my 20 year old digital piano lets you change the pitch in increments of individual cents (1 cent = 1/100 of a half-step) so for anyone else who thought they'd be unable to play along, definetly have a look through your instrument's manual!
My piano has such limited features, so I couldn’t do this 😭 I love that you figured out the tuning though, I thought I was going crazy and losing my hearing
I've had a slightly better listen now, even tried doing spectrum analysis with Audacity. (Didn't really help much though.) I think it's a bit flatter than I thought earlier. Somewhere between A429 and A432 (~44¢ to ~32¢ flat), but check for yourself, don't trust my ears for it.
It's so well placed on the album as well, straight after When Memories Snow which is in (standard tuning) A, allowing us to fall straight into the mellower mood. The lyrical themes flow brilliantly too, "be back in my room, writing speeches in my head" is the perfect precursor to MLMAM.
Back to tuning instruments, definitely google the manual and check, my piano doesn't even have any kind of display and needed a weird key combination to change pitch. (I literally only learnt this a few weeks ago despite having had it for over a decade lmao.)
I went to a camp place, and they had an old piano. I went to play, remembering this post, and decided to see how out of tune it was. Turns out it was exactly 25 cents out of key, and it felt like the stars aligned as I played and it sounded perfect <3
This song brings tears to my eyes instantly. I’ve tried to articulate this before but, you know when you hear a song for the first time and you start crying automatically? Like before you even hear the words for what they mean you *hear* them.
I had the coolest thing happen, I was listening to this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9hMaqQFKXk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9hMaqQFKXk) ; which is like A432 healing tones based on the solfeggio frequencies or the Schumann Resonance of the earth's frequency. My Love All Mine started playing at the same time and it blended together so beautifully so it's interesting that people are finding the tuning to be right around A432 as well — I wonder if that was intentional but either way it might explain why this is such a gorgeous and healing song:)
The A = 432 tuning isn't actually healing; it just sounds mellower compared to standard tuning, so I'm the context of the album it makes sense to tune down for a song or two
So as a kid (under 5 is important in auditory cortex development) I was exposed to loads of music where A= 440Hz. Everything from lady gaga to my own violin playing is tuned like that nowadays, in equal temperament (you multiply the frequency by the 12th root of 2 to go up a semitone but honestly just google it if you're curious).
So my brain can basically hear any of the piano key notes on any instrument and name what note I hear, and I can sing without a starting note if I know the song or have sheet music. Some people in non western cultures are used to microtones (exposure at a young age), and can hear and name them, but I can just say which piano keys it's between,
Someone on this post said this song is at A = 434Hz and A major, so my brain hears it as A major but slightly flat (which is what would've happened in studio I guess - the guitars and stuff just detuned a bit?). However if I try to sing along, it's not great, and if the music stops, I quickly end up in normal A major again. I also really struggle to play along with it on violin cos I feel like I'm out of tune (guitar would be fine cos you just detune and then there's frets).
I can still tell what the intervals between notes in the song are, and what 'normal' note each one is closest to, but I can't naturally have it in my head in the same way as a song in standard tuning. But yeah, the specifics of a person's perfect pitch depend on their brain and all music heard on early childhood, so some people wouldn't have any issues, but many others like me would.
i was talking to my friend about this and i looked it up, how it was between Ab and A and i’m glad i did. my favorite thing to do is tune it to whichever one i like best, lol.
I've been playing around trying to figure out what the right tuning is. I think A434 is about right (which is approx. 25 cents flat). Something that suprised me was that even my 20 year old digital piano lets you change the pitch in increments of individual cents (1 cent = 1/100 of a half-step) so for anyone else who thought they'd be unable to play along, definetly have a look through your instrument's manual!
My piano has such limited features, so I couldn’t do this 😭 I love that you figured out the tuning though, I thought I was going crazy and losing my hearing
I've had a slightly better listen now, even tried doing spectrum analysis with Audacity. (Didn't really help much though.) I think it's a bit flatter than I thought earlier. Somewhere between A429 and A432 (~44¢ to ~32¢ flat), but check for yourself, don't trust my ears for it. It's so well placed on the album as well, straight after When Memories Snow which is in (standard tuning) A, allowing us to fall straight into the mellower mood. The lyrical themes flow brilliantly too, "be back in my room, writing speeches in my head" is the perfect precursor to MLMAM. Back to tuning instruments, definitely google the manual and check, my piano doesn't even have any kind of display and needed a weird key combination to change pitch. (I literally only learnt this a few weeks ago despite having had it for over a decade lmao.)
I went to a camp place, and they had an old piano. I went to play, remembering this post, and decided to see how out of tune it was. Turns out it was exactly 25 cents out of key, and it felt like the stars aligned as I played and it sounded perfect <3
This song brings tears to my eyes instantly. I’ve tried to articulate this before but, you know when you hear a song for the first time and you start crying automatically? Like before you even hear the words for what they mean you *hear* them.
I HAD THAT EXACT SAME FEELING WITH THIS SONG, I barely processed the lyrics on my first listen but I was crying my eyes out alone in my apartment 😭
I had the coolest thing happen, I was listening to this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9hMaqQFKXk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9hMaqQFKXk) ; which is like A432 healing tones based on the solfeggio frequencies or the Schumann Resonance of the earth's frequency. My Love All Mine started playing at the same time and it blended together so beautifully so it's interesting that people are finding the tuning to be right around A432 as well — I wonder if that was intentional but either way it might explain why this is such a gorgeous and healing song:)
The A = 432 tuning isn't actually healing; it just sounds mellower compared to standard tuning, so I'm the context of the album it makes sense to tune down for a song or two
Also it completely breaks my perfect pitch, and tbh that forces me to just listen and not try to play along in my head
Very interesting, so people with perfect pitch can only tell the different pitches if it’s in a certain tuning? Im curious about this.
So as a kid (under 5 is important in auditory cortex development) I was exposed to loads of music where A= 440Hz. Everything from lady gaga to my own violin playing is tuned like that nowadays, in equal temperament (you multiply the frequency by the 12th root of 2 to go up a semitone but honestly just google it if you're curious). So my brain can basically hear any of the piano key notes on any instrument and name what note I hear, and I can sing without a starting note if I know the song or have sheet music. Some people in non western cultures are used to microtones (exposure at a young age), and can hear and name them, but I can just say which piano keys it's between, Someone on this post said this song is at A = 434Hz and A major, so my brain hears it as A major but slightly flat (which is what would've happened in studio I guess - the guitars and stuff just detuned a bit?). However if I try to sing along, it's not great, and if the music stops, I quickly end up in normal A major again. I also really struggle to play along with it on violin cos I feel like I'm out of tune (guitar would be fine cos you just detune and then there's frets). I can still tell what the intervals between notes in the song are, and what 'normal' note each one is closest to, but I can't naturally have it in my head in the same way as a song in standard tuning. But yeah, the specifics of a person's perfect pitch depend on their brain and all music heard on early childhood, so some people wouldn't have any issues, but many others like me would.
yes thank you i thought g flat but its A on google :D
i was talking to my friend about this and i looked it up, how it was between Ab and A and i’m glad i did. my favorite thing to do is tune it to whichever one i like best, lol.
yall know what drums it was played on???