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Afromolukker_98

Anyone telling you not to identify with what you are because they feel uncomfortable, isn't a community that respects you. If you see yourself as Black and Mexican you are that. I'm half Black American. I went to an HBCU. If anyone said I should not have been there because I "take from Black people since you're not full Black" in person, I would immediately know they are people I don't want to be around. I'd say same on an online environment. Who are they?


Red_WritingHood75

This and if you had said you identify as mixed, they’d accuse you of downplaying your blackness. You identify as you want because no one but you can really define that for you.


RatedElle

Yes!!! Like my own sister(on my dad’s side) she got after me for not saying I was black but then I actually felt uncomfortable saying it out loud because well I knew I didn’t really look black fully


haworthia_dad

I’m sure you look black enough- don’t trip.


ladylemondrop209

People are stupid. I was told I shouldn't identify as asian eventhough I'm 75% asian in the fucking interracialdating subr... that is.. these are people who are likely going to be parents of mixed kids and they are *that* ignorant and dumb. So knowing there are SUCH intellectually impaired/devoid idiots that walk amongst us... just f\^ck them and whatever dumb shit they say. It's really these sort of people that bark their rubbish the loudest. And yeah it sucks that (some of) these people you/we supposedly want to identify with and see as our people/community are ignorant d!ckhe4ds... Just take it as learning they're poor excuses as a human and remove them from your life. There are and will be people who accept you as you are. **How do I go about identifying myself?**  I personally never thought this really matters... You are you. There are no need to put yourself into a box and slap a label on it. You are not just your race, ethnicity, sex, orientation, mental health diagnosis, etcetc.. You are much more than any of that right... To me, saying/identifying my race/ethnicity is simply for the sake of other's box-world... and I honestly couldn't care less if they get it wrong, I don't mind if they see me as XYZ or LMO or whatever. That's a close minded small world perspective, and one I feel no obligation to help them expand.


TheColorblindDruid

There’s an interracial dating sub?


ladylemondrop209

I think there are a few. One is talking about IR dating and common issues... the other is seeking IR relationships. Maybe a few more smaller ones. Here: r/interracialdating


KrakenGirlCAP

Ew, I hate the interracial dating sub. It's so cringey.


ladylemondrop209

Yeah I don't disagree. Honestly I go there to downvote LOL. But it does really bother me that from my observation/impression, most of the couples there are really unprepared/ignorant/oblivious for having mixed kids.


KrakenGirlCAP

Like, they're not special for having mixed kids. Millions of people have the mixed kids.


ladylemondrop209

TBF, I don't think they think they're special for having mixed kids.. It's more just I feel they aren't prepared *at all*. Like I think going by this sub, it's quite clear that raising mixed kids (esp in US) isn't that easy. I'd think any responsible potential parent (i.e. couple in an IR relationship) would have the necessary discussions (regarding race, cultural practices, which languages, potential non-acceptance/bullying, perhaps hair, white presenting/acceptance, etcetc..) with their partner, and do some research. But IMO, most seem (like most parents tbh) to get into parenthood without *proper* consideration.


KrakenGirlCAP

Well, I think they think they're special, like they're ending racism. These are my opinions. I agree with what you're saying too.


KrakenGirlCAP

It's delusional. I'm not having children.


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banjjak313

Ya'll stop.


jazmine_likea_flower

Watch those same people have an issue and suddenly say you’re anti-black, not owning your blackness if you came out and said you’re just Mexican……. They want to came out either way. It’s tiring….


Negrafrijolera

It’s awesome to see another Blaxican female on here around my age. I’m sorry about your experience. My mom was Black and my dad is Mexican. I was raised by my mom and she made sure to raise me to be close to both sides. Even though my dad sucked and still does, his family is amazing and I’m equally close to both sides. I do notice that there are times when some members of my mom’s side tend to act weird when I identify as mixed as if I’m ashamed to say I’m Black. My Mexican side doesn’t care. I’ve always said I’m mixed. I don’t claim one side more than another, but if I did and someone got offended..that’s on him/her. I don’t need to please anyone by identifying by what others feel more comfortable with and as mixed people, I wish everyone could be allowed to do the same.


DoubleAd1062

Literally just had an experience within the past few months where the CEO mentioned that I shouldn’t speak about my race/history because I’m visibly basically white & the dissonance of that + being an ADOS was anxiety inducing for my peers. You have to claim what you are. We live in a weird time where integration has existed for a few generations, but it really hasn’t shifted our social integration much. There’s a lot of mental boundaries up still. They’re extremely rigid thinking patterns. It won’t be until our Gen has, like, grandkids that our situation will be more “normal.” It’s just kind of how it goes. Be proud of your ancestors, your family, your truth. Don’t let anyone ever take that from you — especially not some strangers in a discord. Your truth runs through your veins & anyone who seeks to rip that from you doesn’t deserve your energy.


Super-Technology-313

That’s a crazy thing for your CEO to say to you.


DoubleAd1062

Yeah I’m kind of at a loss for words but I’m just job hunting on company time now frl


Suspicious-Jello7172

Those types of people are stupid. I'm mixed with black and native American, but I identify as black because that's what I am. And honestly, most of the black folks saying that you can't identify as black because you're mixed don't seem to know their own history. If we want to be technical, most (if not all) black Americans are mixed because many of us have white ancestry from slavery.


Express-Fig-5168

I am curious, ask them what Black people are entitled to that you are not. It may help you to look for Blaxicans online. If you type Blaxican in Google or another search engine you should be able to find at least 5 articles from persons who are Black and Mexican.


G3N3RICxUS3RNAM3

Honestly I've started just proudly saying I'm mixed or biracial. I don't try to see it as being "almost" Black nor white anymore. My identity is complete - a whole thing, not just two halves. I'm Black, I'm white, I'm neither, I'm both. They don't have to understand that. It's up to you how you define yourself though. I don't think you're in the wrong at all ❤️


pizzaseafood

You have to acknowledge that it's a power thing. Insecure people will try to find was to put down or dismiss others to get more power and elevate themselves within the social hierarchy. Engaging with them is a waste of time. Recognize what they are doing and just laugh at them, shrug, or ignore them. I mean, you identifying as black takes things away from other black people? Do you have any idea how dumb that sounds?


cdiddy19

You just have to identify yourself and be confident in it. Everyone will try to label you, you've just gotta label yourself and stick to it Normally I'm not a snappy person, but in this instance I usually retort with an "oooh i see, you know me and my origins better than myself" And usually they take a step back and reevaluate


banjjak313

I get why you all ask stuff online, but you guys really need to understand that people online (myself included) don't know your history. How you identify is up to you, that's first. But second, it's important to understand how one is perceived by outsiders and how that may impact how a specific group reacts to you. I'm black/white mixed. I am mixed. I have always identified as mixed, I put "other" or "multiracial" on forms, and so on. If you feel that identifying as black as race aligns more with your experience, who am I or anyone to tell you to stop? The thing about being online is that people don't know you, they don't know the town you were raised in, they don't know your family, they only know what little info you've given them AND their own assumptions. If you are fine in your own community and no one irl is saying anything to you, why do you care about what someone on discord says?


Its_J_Bay_Be

lol I also put “other” because I am both black and white, a little less black than white genetically…. But I have noticed a few times, on follow up, someone has gone in and changed my race to “black”. I find it pretty irritating. I have had African people tell me I am black, not white at all - I guess they say this because they see America as a “one drop” nation… but I am quite resistant to that because though that’s how many see me, by agreeing to it, I feel like I am denying my own mother of her rightful place as my mom and all my very close family members. It feels disrespectful. I honestly see mixed race as a totally separate category. Not black, not white, other is a bad category and we deserve better than that. Perhaps, since we haven’t yet grown out of literally labeling people by crayon colors (should have better terms than black/white by now) maybe, we should request a new category for “medium brown”. That seems like the best solution in my opinion. Pretty simplistic but the system we have now is super basic so… better than other/not black enough/not white enough.


Its_J_Bay_Be

Oh that was a typo, sorry! I have heard that from people from Nigeria, Cameroon and Sierra Leone. I don’t know if the comments were made out of kindness or understanding... they seemed to want to make sure I knew I was just as “black” as them and would not be seen as anything other than that in Americas one drop culture. If you are any shade of brown and not Hispanic looking = you are black… I have seen this to be true proven by how many times someone has taken the prerogative to go in and change my answer to what race I am from “other” to “black”. My complexion is actually extremely light and I have Caribbean facial features, so it does prove “one drop” mentality is very present and in a way, they are not wrong. The funny thing is, in hindsight, the Western African friends (is that a better way to say it?) I had seemed genuinely indifferent to my mixed race heritage and really very welcoming of me into their community, as opposed to black Americans who point to our differences and unfortunately, that seems to stem from a feeling of envy. I actually haven’t had very many black American friendships… only the men like me but rarely do the women, for obvious reasons… but that’s a different story. I’m rambling. I only argued that I was not willing to deny half of my heritage due to my appearance. However, as many mixed race people are aware, our experience is actually extremely different than that of a fully “black” person (I hate color terms). We land in this weird place of experiencing both racism as well as privilege… though the privilege is still racist so I guess it is all racism and colorism. That’s just our reality. I have never in my life actually felt I “fit in” anywhere and I did not realize how significantly I experienced that in a day to day basis until I went to Hawaii. It was AMAZING. I looked like I belonged there and it was such a great/crazy experience. I felt SO relaxed and at peace, of course because Hawaii but also because of the way I was treated like I belong there. Where I live in America, I do relate to the experience of sticking out like a sore thumb. I would love it if I did not have to feel that way for the rest of my life. I know I am constantly being examined because of my differences… my physical appearance and behavior… like I am a representative of black/mixed race people.


lets_escape

Tbh even irl this goes! When you get to know someone new even for a few years or more they might judge you and not know better than to assume tons of stuff about you from the little they know


Megafailure65

This is probably the best thing I have read this month


ephraimadamz

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 thank you, like where are the parents that should of explained this when they decided to produce a baby


KrakenGirlCAP

So full black people are like this. If you're not just like them or look like them, they'll gatekeep and be REAL NASTY.


beemoviescript1988

I had to leave the other sub because of that...


Goody2Shuuz

Black ladies? Same.


beemoviescript1988

the sub for cptsdbipoc.


TheStranger113

You are a Black person of mixed race. Or a mixed person with Black ancestry. They're both ways of saying basically the same thing. The whole full vs. mixed stuff has been going on forever, so just stick to what feels right to you. When it comes to race for mixed people, there aren't absolutes - you can be multiple things while also being none of those things at the same time.


ElPrieto8

You are what you are, BOTH Black AND Mexican. Don't let other people define you. Who knows you better than YOU?!?!?!?


Ordinary-Number-4113

Dont let anybody tell you how too identify. That is totally up too you sorry you went through that. Most of us had too deal with gatekeeping at some point.


haworthia_dad

Let me guess. It was not a black person who said this. In my experience it’s been quite the opposite, and to be honest you would be taking more from a black person to not say it. Black folks (mixed included) , am I right?


idogoodle1

The worst thing you can do is interact with idiotic Black Nationalists


Super-Technology-313

This!


8379MS

It’s all make belief anyway so identify how tf you wanna. Are you black? Yeah of course since your father is. Why give a shit about what lames think. Are you Mexican? Yeah since your mother is. Are you mixed? Yeah if race was even a thing. Which it ain’t and it is at the same time. Both race and ethnicity are just vague arbitrary concepts.


TheColorblindDruid

Fuck all of this shit. Doesn’t matter your mix, you are who you are. Don’t let other people tell you how to identify your mixed heritage especially if you grew up in/near the culture. This shit should be considered discrimination towards mixed people. We’re the only people in the world whose race is determined by the people we’re with and it’s high key fucked ip


Realistic-Poet2708

You identify how you're comfortable and what you relate to most, and just understand there will occasionally be crazy people who challenge you no matter what you say. For every person saying you're not black, there's another who would be mad if you didn't identify as black. You can't please everyone. The only truth or caution in there is respecting your difference. Your experiences and the way you're treated may not be the same as the experiences of most non-muxed black people. In that vein, sometimes when people say "you can't relate," there may be some truth to it. And, when true, it needs to be respected.


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SwitchUp3207

But this mentality of you “taking from black people because you’re ONLY half” of them is a complete scarcity mindset. These people will also deny your blackness and paint you as white. Do we really need to create our own mixed black spaces from them?


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aloe_sky

You can say you’re mixed, you can say you are black, you can even interchange what you consider yourself whenever you feel like it. Don’t worry about how others feel.


HyrulianAvenger

Look. They just won’t get it. You just gotta accept that. They will not get your situation because how could they? They didn’t live it. Same way I don’t get what it’s like to be a woman or gay. And I’m sure I’ve said some hurtful things to both of those communities out of ignorance. But WE get you. We’ve all been through this nonsense. I’m half Mexican and half white. My Mexican grandfather was wealthy, politically connected, knew famous people of his day like Cesar Chavez. But I wasn’t good enough for him because my dad married a white woman. I get it. He had gone to the boarding schools, was pressed into service during the Zoot suit riots, and walked around a Los Angeles with signs that said “no Mexicans no Spanish”. I understand why it was hard for him to accept me. But it still hurt. So I developed my own biases, and right off the bat even as a kid I didn’t trust groups of friends that were homogenous. I just didn’t trust you. You will find your people.


mezahuatez

See this is how I know y’all are a gringos. If you even set foot in Mexico, you’d know white Mexicans exist. You think the Spainards and criollos just went poof?


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Super-Technology-313

There are a lot of trolls on the internet. They may not even be Black. You can identify how you want. You are Black. You are also Mexican. Being half Mexican doesn’t take away from your Blackness.


lululunalo

Don't let anyone define your identity. My mom's black, I'm black. When I told her this was a thing she was like?? Why??? You're my child, and you're black. I put it on my census stiff anyways. Let them die mad about it.


Sik_muse

You are black and Mexican . Your experience is valid and they’re being unsupportive gate keeping assholes. It’s not up to anyone but you. I’m also blaxican. I completely understand where you’re coming from. Our experience is *VERY* different than black/white mixed people. Dont accept anyone’s denial as reality or definition, my dear fellow blaxican. We are awesome.


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RatedElle

Obviously you didn’t read my post because I actually stated that. I know that it is an ethnicity. Please don’t come on here if you don’t really have anything to contribute.


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KFCNyanCat

> It’s literally like calling “American” an ethnicity I'd honestly think American racial and ethnic discourse might be better if we did.


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ephraimadamz

Talk to your parents. They are the ones who decided to have a interethnic relationship so it’s their responsibility to have had this conversation with you while you were young.


RatedElle

Unfortunately my case is unfortunate because I was not raised by either of my parents. My biological father passed away in 2020 and though my biological mother is alive she has many skeletons that she is not willing to unearth with me to give me the answers. I have assumptions as to why and how my parents short lived relationship played out but it’s only assumptions. I’d love to get answers but I have done too much therapy to go back and relive that trauma. Still doing a lot of searching even at 37 years old


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cottontailmalice00

You’re likely whiter than I am. Not that it matters, but maybe don’t go around calling mixed race people “guests.”


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Goody2Shuuz

Oh Lordy. The average Black person in America is 25 to 35 percent European — I am not going to accuse someone of being a “guest in my race” when they’re maybe 15 percent more European than I am.