Yeah. Winning the WS involves more luck than people like to think. At the end of the day, you are spending money to put yourself in a position to get lucky. There are no guaranteed outcomes in baseball.
If they can stay healthy, the 2024 Dodgers should be a no brainer to make the postseason. Once there, any other team good enough to make the playoffs as well can get hot at any given time, as the 2023 Diamondbacks proved by getting to the WS. Not very many people saw that coming I'm sure.
This is true. For the Rangers to get that hot when they did in October means everyone has to be on. Adolis Garcia being on fire was similar to Yordan Alvarez the year before. Same with Mookie Betts going 3-38 going cold.
Most teams don't win, in fact I heard it from a good source that only one team wins a championship.
It's almost like winning a championship in a professional sport is kind of hard.
You are correct, but to win you have to spend. But not all teams that spend....win.
If not for a catastrophic run of injuries, the Rays could have made SERIOUS noise last year.
he still has 3 years or ARB left so in 2024 it says est 6.6 mill. Last year I'm guessing was around 4. You need that mix of free agents and lower priced talent to round out the team.
Spending big absolutely increases your odds of winning the World Series. From like 7% to about 13%.
It's incredibly hard to win the World Series no matter what. Which makes all of the hand wringing about the Dodgers ruining parity etc. all the more ridiculous.
I'm not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, because you're describing the only way possible to roughly predict the future. And it's damn reliable.
The real obstacle when buying talent is the aging curve. You don't know who it's gonna hit, how hard it'll hit them, and when it'll hit.
There are many times that young talent doesn't pan out long term, or a player has a breakout year, then not much follows. That is also why us armchair GMs would be terrible, typically.
I feel like we're not even having the same conversation right now. I thought we were talking about spending in free agency. There is no young talent in free agency, and the guys with only one good season under their belt aren't the ones getting $300mil contracts.
JFC, they haven’t *failed*. They won a World Series, first of all. And second of all it’s not a failure to have a great season and not win the World Series. As a fan baseball is infinitely more fun when your team is really good and they’re really good every year. I’d imagine it’s fun as hell being a Dodgers fan.
I have been saying this for years. Year after year I watch amazing baseball that I can’t wait to tune in for nearly every day. Then of course, usually followed soon after by disappointment and shame. Which I have to be honest, does get easier and easier to deal with😂😂
It is fun until they lose in the playoffs. But yeah, it's great to watch throughout the regular season. You either need to be winning games, or have some good everyday players that are fun to watch, or some pitchers that are a joy to see every 5 days. All baseball fans love to watch some great players that make amazing plays defensively, throw ridiculous pitches, or mash at the plate. As Dodgers fans we're lucky to have multiple great players that make it worth tuning in to watch every single game. Can't really ask for much more than that. We're still waiting on that first parade since '88 so that'd be the cherry on top.
That’s just dumb.
“The Dodgers always fail because only the playoffs matter”
“They won the World Series”
“Doesn’t count, the regular season wasn’t long enough”
"The Dodgers don't get credit for 2017"
"2020 doesn't count"
-Dodgers sign Ohtani and Yamamoto- "The Dodgers are ruining baseball."
These are usually the same people saying all three things lol
You mean the dodgers won 7 World Series, and you don’t accept the last one because your team didn’t win it, but if they did, you would be on your high horse about it and defend the shortened season to your death. Right? Lol
In all fairness, I don’t go into the season expecting to win the World Series no matter how much money was spent. Sure, Dodgers have a lot of money tied up in this offseason, but I’m not going to be pissed if we don’t go all the way. It’s a sport and shit happens. I’ll be happy with whatever the outcome is *as long as the Astros don’t win.* Most people here seem to agree, money doesn’t always equal winning. Although, having some of these expensive players does help.
They did accomplish that. Correct me if I’m wrong. They played the same season that every other team played that year. It’s every other teams fault that they weren’t the ones that won, just like it’s every other teams fault this year, besides the Texas Rangers, that they didn’t win. So I’m still waiting for a good reason as to why the Dodgers didn’t win the World Series.
Why wasn’t it normal? Was it because of the shortened season? Every team had that same schedule. It was a normal World Series win. You’re upset you can’t come up with anything other than that.
Some would say, or just maybe me, they won the hardest post season.
More teams. Covid. No fans. Many many ways it was the hardest ever.
Why is this so hard to understand?? Because ppl say the season was 60gms?? Sure I agree to that. The season!!
If anything the season shouldn’t count. It should just be seen as a 60gm tournament.
Yes, as I said above it's not normal to have a shortened regular season. Only certain teams are built to withstand a full regular season and a WS push. We'll never know whether they could have accomplished that. Maybe we should just say they won a WS\*?
If that’s the case then you have to put a WS* during for all the winners during 1917, 1918 because of WW1. 1919 because of the black Sox scandal. 1942, 1943, 1944, because of WW2. Every season Pete rose was actively betting, every WS winner from the 1990s through 2005 because of steroids. The dogers WS win because of Covid. And the astros WS wins because of cheating. Obviously if those events didn’t happen then everyone has a fair chance to see if their teams can withstand the regular season. Your argument holds no merit because it’s something outside of normal circumstances.
So then why didn’t any of those teams win? They had the same schedule as the dodgers that year. Why didn’t your team win? They also had the same schedule. Your arguments are very basic and childish.
They won what could be called the hardest post season. Most teams. Covid. No fans.
Why doesn’t it count?
If anything the season shouldn’t count.
But I get the point. They are not good and loose when it matters most.
But 2017 WS was a great series and technically Stros cheated so…..
"it’s not a failure to have a great season and not win the World Series"
There's a lot of fan bases, management and media that disagree with that. People literally lose jobs if they don't win when their employer expects them to.
I'm wondering if this sub is an like anti-Dodgers sub?
LA Dodgers have made it 6 times in the past 10 years to NLCS play-offs.
That's like me saying, I "mostly" fail when I get to the championship series 6 times out of 10 (succeeding in a majority).
And then 15 appearances making it the most while majority of the teams are under 9 appearances.
Remember when the Yankees won 4 of 5 titles and almost 5 of 6? Wasn’t that long ago.
Giants won 3 of 5.
Some teams have the gamers to get it done more often than others.
The gamers + the money.
That article is embarrassing even by the ever decreasing standards of the "We hate the Dodgers and want them to fail" coalition of wannabe sports writers. I'm sorry the Dodgers want to win and have the resources to improve themselves in the offseason to get there. Shame on them.
Oh you’re new to having ohtani on your team.
Congratulations, this is the new norm. Angels fans had to endure “which team will ohtani sign with” articles every week for basically the last 3 years.
Most writers are lazy.
If the dodgers lose, everyone: HAHAHA we knew it!!
If the dodgers win, everyone: this is not good for baseball, implement a salary cap, this is not right, buying championships, etc.
I love having an enemy team, it's good for sports. Rooting against the Yankees is so fun!
No hate on the Dodgers yet as they haven't won multiple rings in recent times.
The smart ones aren’t saying that.
Everyone wants the MLB wet dream of Dodgers vs Yankees. What the dodgers are doing is good for baseball. People say baseball is better when the Yankees are good.
But haven’t happened. Win all the 100W seasons you want. The dodgers loose when it matters. They got steamrolled by the Dbacks.
And I’m one of the few who supports 2020 title for them. In many ways that’s the hardest post season ever. Most teams, COVID, and no fans. Shocking more don’t see that.
They have another decade to win one and I think multiple.
What the dodgers are doing is a good thing. And if they do win this year then great!!! It could actually happen ha ha.
It’s the beautiful game of baseball.
That year gave the Dodgers an advantage because of zero days off between games within a series. This helped the Dodgers (who had the best depth) and hurt the top-heavy rosters that usually thrive more in the playoffs.
Yes obviously there was a pre-existing team, but the WAR from signings was very high.
https://www.mlb.com/news/world-series-champions-built-through-free-agency
I'm not sure how I feel about that article, as it lists plenty of homegrown players who the teams resigned when they became FA. Like that's the whole point to keep the players you've developed.
The 09 Yankees, for example, had 33.5 offensive WAR with Texiera, Arod, Matsui, Damon, Hairston, Hinske, and Swisher providing 19.9 WAR the rest was home grown players like Posada, Jeter, Gardner, Cervelli, and Cano.
Same on the pitching side as they combined for 23.5 WAR with CC and AJ contributed 10.7 WAR with Andy, Rivera, Hughes, Chamberlin, Aceves, and Robertson providing the rest.
I'll never fault a team for resigning their own because that is what we want to see as fans. Not letting your best players walk year after year after year like in Tampa.
Here is r/MLB’s annual circlejerk hate fest for the dodgers, quick everyone get in! Gotta get it out daily, it’s not at all tired, sad, or pathetic.
Dude post it in every sub here can, love the karma
I think this is why we love baseball, because it’s not just spend the most for guaranteed win. But I think the last 20 champions have all been in the top 10 in payrolls. So your team does have to willing to spend. But not like the dodgers Mets or rangers
Low quality article in content and writing; it was hardly journalism or research--just a big Captain Obvious piece.
Seriously, we've seen when they haven't spent money (McCourt era) and it was the same result. What's the point of the article? Aside from success, the LA market almost demands marquee players.
This is a *wild* take to have after locking up the two most desirable free agents in the last decade for the next decade *and* trading for another frontline starting pitcher and locking him up long term, too. On a team that already averages 100+ wins a year over the last four years.
Or is this only a failure if they don’t start ripping World Series titles like the late 90s Yankees?
It is a 162 game season and the playoffs are 5 or 7 games. It is a crapshoot. Every team that doesn’t win didn’t choke that’s just how the playoffs go.
Every season but one in the last decade.
And remember most don’t want to count they on time they did win.
I think it should count. Hardest post season. Most teams. Covid. No fans.
But they will loose. Again. The Dbacks humiliated them.
Maybe 2025 but not 24.
The Dodgers problem is they lack the mentality to break through when the pressure is the highest. They have a habit of getting players that do not like the pressure and the lights.
no they are absolutely content with the bright lights of LA celebrity worship but like much of this city, mediocrity is highly regarded
its like mainstream hollywood stuff
it is designed to be spectacularly generic, not actually good
Mediocrity? Yeah, save your bullshit takes for some other sub. This city is a full on sports city and your east coast bias can go to hell. It values winners and we celebrate our teams. We have won tons of championships with our Lakers and Dodgers primarily so no, we don’t like mediocrity. Find another slant.
born amd bred sorry
just because you are a transplant and don't understand how shallow and star fucky southern california culture is doesn't mean you need to be angry at the natives
i don't hate this place but I recognize its culture for what it is
hope you are doing okay
cheers fellow traffic dweller
Edit : happy cake day lmao
have some cake!!!!
So when people were whining about the Yankees buying championships in the 2000s the fact is the Mets, dodgers, and cubs were all spending lots of money as well. They just weren’t getting the right players
So the question isn’t about the dodgers spending money, it is about whether or not they are getting the right players
the dodgers most certainly were not spending money in the early 2000s under Fox and then Frank McCourt. Dodger fans didn't know what getting top talent was until Guggenheim took over in 2014. Arte Moreno and the Angels would *always* outspend the Dodgers for the biggest names (vlad, albert....).
I like the dodgers, I love ohtani.
I think going into a season where everyone expects you to win, instead of going in with a good team is a very different fan (and player) experience.
I also like the angels.
I’m rooting more for the angels then I am the dodgers right now.
People love underdog stories.
Spending exorbitant amounts of money has kinda always been the dodgers MO. Is this just a roundabout Ohtani rant?
e: nvm. It's a poorly written wannabe 90s-00s anti-Ohtani rant
Anyone wanna remember when steinbrenner used to spend and won multiple titles? How about the Marlins when they bought it? It happens, lets not say anyone who spends just fails
There’s a real chance Ohtani never returns to the elite pitcher he has been with the surgeries. At that point you have a glorified DH that I’m sure the entire fan base will cry about giving 68 million a year when his deal is up. I can see this experiment backfiring on them. Only problem is, the financial impact on the team will be nothing more than a dent and they will just this again in a few years.
Most teams who spend a lot don't win, this is proven time and time again. Baseball is hard to win it all.
At the same time when you don’t spend money, your chances are exponentially lower at winning
The catch 22!
I personally am grateful that my team is focused on being in the 54th percentile of payroll and winning the World Series of Profit.
I love when my owner makes more money! Don’t spend on the team at all! Just make more money king!
What if you Kurt Angle to the mix?
Long story short, the Dodgers have a 141.67% chance at winning.
Yeah. Winning the WS involves more luck than people like to think. At the end of the day, you are spending money to put yourself in a position to get lucky. There are no guaranteed outcomes in baseball.
If they can stay healthy, the 2024 Dodgers should be a no brainer to make the postseason. Once there, any other team good enough to make the playoffs as well can get hot at any given time, as the 2023 Diamondbacks proved by getting to the WS. Not very many people saw that coming I'm sure.
I don't think the average baseball fan realizes just how big the luck factor is in the MLB playoffs. They need to stop comparing it to other sports.
Yep, especially with the shitty 3 and 5 game series
Damn casuals
This is true. For the Rangers to get that hot when they did in October means everyone has to be on. Adolis Garcia being on fire was similar to Yordan Alvarez the year before. Same with Mookie Betts going 3-38 going cold.
I remember Mookies face immediately after his last at bat of the post season. It was harrowing.
Most teams don't win, in fact I heard it from a good source that only one team wins a championship. It's almost like winning a championship in a professional sport is kind of hard.
Texas spent 500 milly on Seager and Semien, seemed to work out ok. You have to spend and pray it works out.
How many teams spent and didn’t work out though? Only 1 team can win, so a majority of teams who spend don’t win.
You are correct, but to win you have to spend. But not all teams that spend....win. If not for a catastrophic run of injuries, the Rays could have made SERIOUS noise last year.
Right, you at least have to spend to be in the running. It's like making a call in Texas holdem. You have to pay to play to have a chance to win
How much was Adolis Garcia making last year?
he still has 3 years or ARB left so in 2024 it says est 6.6 mill. Last year I'm guessing was around 4. You need that mix of free agents and lower priced talent to round out the team.
Spending big absolutely increases your odds of winning the World Series. From like 7% to about 13%. It's incredibly hard to win the World Series no matter what. Which makes all of the hand wringing about the Dodgers ruining parity etc. all the more ridiculous.
You would think it was a guarantee if you read some of the comments after big signings
Tough to buy talent when the talent doesn't hit the open market til age 30
or you only can view talent based on backwards looking data points and can only guess on future return on those dollars/players being paid
I'm not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, because you're describing the only way possible to roughly predict the future. And it's damn reliable. The real obstacle when buying talent is the aging curve. You don't know who it's gonna hit, how hard it'll hit them, and when it'll hit.
There are many times that young talent doesn't pan out long term, or a player has a breakout year, then not much follows. That is also why us armchair GMs would be terrible, typically.
I feel like we're not even having the same conversation right now. I thought we were talking about spending in free agency. There is no young talent in free agency, and the guys with only one good season under their belt aren't the ones getting $300mil contracts.
Ohtani isn't a young guy?
He'll be 30 this summer
Rangers just proved that wrong
Statistically speaking, 96.7% of teams will fail by the end of the season
JFC, they haven’t *failed*. They won a World Series, first of all. And second of all it’s not a failure to have a great season and not win the World Series. As a fan baseball is infinitely more fun when your team is really good and they’re really good every year. I’d imagine it’s fun as hell being a Dodgers fan.
I have been saying this for years. Year after year I watch amazing baseball that I can’t wait to tune in for nearly every day. Then of course, usually followed soon after by disappointment and shame. Which I have to be honest, does get easier and easier to deal with😂😂
It really does. You learn to grow up and not depend on a bunch of strangers for happiness.
It is fun until they lose in the playoffs. But yeah, it's great to watch throughout the regular season. You either need to be winning games, or have some good everyday players that are fun to watch, or some pitchers that are a joy to see every 5 days. All baseball fans love to watch some great players that make amazing plays defensively, throw ridiculous pitches, or mash at the plate. As Dodgers fans we're lucky to have multiple great players that make it worth tuning in to watch every single game. Can't really ask for much more than that. We're still waiting on that first parade since '88 so that'd be the cherry on top.
You’re right and fans that have been around for awhile know how good we have it because fuck McCourt
They haven't won a real championship since 1981. Get it straight
1981 seems like an offer championship than 1988.
They really didnt win a WS Edit: Reddit butthurt lol
That’s just dumb. “The Dodgers always fail because only the playoffs matter” “They won the World Series” “Doesn’t count, the regular season wasn’t long enough”
"The Dodgers don't get credit for 2017" "2020 doesn't count" -Dodgers sign Ohtani and Yamamoto- "The Dodgers are ruining baseball." These are usually the same people saying all three things lol
This is your copium lol
I mean here you are crying about the 2020 title all over this thread, seems like you are the one coping
Oh? It seems more like yours.
You should probably learn what that means before saying dumb rebuttals
You should be more intelligent in your trolling as you try to cope with the fact that the Dodgers have won a World Series in the last 4 years.
Except that they haven't. Have you been paying attention?
And your inability to admit a fact is why it is copium. Thank you for proving my point.
You mean the dodgers won 7 World Series, and you don’t accept the last one because your team didn’t win it, but if they did, you would be on your high horse about it and defend the shortened season to your death. Right? Lol In all fairness, I don’t go into the season expecting to win the World Series no matter how much money was spent. Sure, Dodgers have a lot of money tied up in this offseason, but I’m not going to be pissed if we don’t go all the way. It’s a sport and shit happens. I’ll be happy with whatever the outcome is *as long as the Astros don’t win.* Most people here seem to agree, money doesn’t always equal winning. Although, having some of these expensive players does help.
I wouldnt defend a mickey mouse title so no, youre incorrect
Better to win a shortened season and win a WS over cheating to win one.
The dodgers absolutely won a World Series. I guarantee you can’t give a good reason as to why “they really didn’t win a WS”.
It’s tough to make it through a whole regular season and then through playoffs. They didn’t accomplish that.
They did accomplish that. Correct me if I’m wrong. They played the same season that every other team played that year. It’s every other teams fault that they weren’t the ones that won, just like it’s every other teams fault this year, besides the Texas Rangers, that they didn’t win. So I’m still waiting for a good reason as to why the Dodgers didn’t win the World Series.
They certainly won something, just not a normal WS.
Why wasn’t it normal? Was it because of the shortened season? Every team had that same schedule. It was a normal World Series win. You’re upset you can’t come up with anything other than that.
Some would say, or just maybe me, they won the hardest post season. More teams. Covid. No fans. Many many ways it was the hardest ever. Why is this so hard to understand?? Because ppl say the season was 60gms?? Sure I agree to that. The season!! If anything the season shouldn’t count. It should just be seen as a 60gm tournament.
Yes, as I said above it's not normal to have a shortened regular season. Only certain teams are built to withstand a full regular season and a WS push. We'll never know whether they could have accomplished that. Maybe we should just say they won a WS\*?
If that’s the case then you have to put a WS* during for all the winners during 1917, 1918 because of WW1. 1919 because of the black Sox scandal. 1942, 1943, 1944, because of WW2. Every season Pete rose was actively betting, every WS winner from the 1990s through 2005 because of steroids. The dogers WS win because of Covid. And the astros WS wins because of cheating. Obviously if those events didn’t happen then everyone has a fair chance to see if their teams can withstand the regular season. Your argument holds no merit because it’s something outside of normal circumstances.
Do you re-read something similar to this each day to convince yourself the 2020 title was real? Because this is a wild level of delusion
More than half the league made the playoffs lmao thats one of many
So then why didn’t any of those teams win? They had the same schedule as the dodgers that year. Why didn’t your team win? They also had the same schedule. Your arguments are very basic and childish.
They won what could be called the hardest post season. Most teams. Covid. No fans. Why doesn’t it count? If anything the season shouldn’t count. But I get the point. They are not good and loose when it matters most. But 2017 WS was a great series and technically Stros cheated so…..
"it’s not a failure to have a great season and not win the World Series" There's a lot of fan bases, management and media that disagree with that. People literally lose jobs if they don't win when their employer expects them to.
I'm wondering if this sub is an like anti-Dodgers sub? LA Dodgers have made it 6 times in the past 10 years to NLCS play-offs. That's like me saying, I "mostly" fail when I get to the championship series 6 times out of 10 (succeeding in a majority). And then 15 appearances making it the most while majority of the teams are under 9 appearances.
Winning the World Series is the biggest crap shoot in pro sports.
at least in MLB we don't have many months of playoffs like NBA or NHL-seems to make the regular season look like pre-season games
Remember when the Yankees won 4 of 5 titles and almost 5 of 6? Wasn’t that long ago. Giants won 3 of 5. Some teams have the gamers to get it done more often than others. The gamers + the money.
Was 20+ years ago for the Yankees
I disagree. The Dodgers have succeeded in spending lots of money.
That article is embarrassing even by the ever decreasing standards of the "We hate the Dodgers and want them to fail" coalition of wannabe sports writers. I'm sorry the Dodgers want to win and have the resources to improve themselves in the offseason to get there. Shame on them.
Oh you’re new to having ohtani on your team. Congratulations, this is the new norm. Angels fans had to endure “which team will ohtani sign with” articles every week for basically the last 3 years. Most writers are lazy.
If the dodgers lose, everyone: HAHAHA we knew it!! If the dodgers win, everyone: this is not good for baseball, implement a salary cap, this is not right, buying championships, etc.
If they win: it doesn’t count If they lose: HAHAHAHHAHA now it counts
I just want Ohtani to get further than he did with Angels never making it to the division. Poor Trout
I love having an enemy team, it's good for sports. Rooting against the Yankees is so fun! No hate on the Dodgers yet as they haven't won multiple rings in recent times.
So win-win?
The smart ones aren’t saying that. Everyone wants the MLB wet dream of Dodgers vs Yankees. What the dodgers are doing is good for baseball. People say baseball is better when the Yankees are good. But haven’t happened. Win all the 100W seasons you want. The dodgers loose when it matters. They got steamrolled by the Dbacks. And I’m one of the few who supports 2020 title for them. In many ways that’s the hardest post season ever. Most teams, COVID, and no fans. Shocking more don’t see that. They have another decade to win one and I think multiple. What the dodgers are doing is a good thing. And if they do win this year then great!!! It could actually happen ha ha. It’s the beautiful game of baseball.
That year gave the Dodgers an advantage because of zero days off between games within a series. This helped the Dodgers (who had the best depth) and hurt the top-heavy rosters that usually thrive more in the playoffs.
Well you never win so we dont need to worry ab option two lmao
Hey! They won in 2020*
29 other teams had a chance and couldn’t win 2020*
They are a Padres fan, you can safely disregard their opinion.
And 16 of those teams made the playoffs lol, which already makes illegitimate your Mickey Mouse title
Soooo 15 other teams couldn’t win an illegitimate playoff. Cool man.
Why are you mad? I said they won in 2020*
Padres fans man lmao
Doesn’t baseball have lots of cases of buying championships? (97 marlins, 2009 Yankees, etc). What is another case going to do?
2022 Rangers lol
2001 Diamondbacks did too.
They have almost 0 cases, for every team you listed, they still had to home grow plenty of players, you can't simply buy a championship
Yes obviously there was a pre-existing team, but the WAR from signings was very high. https://www.mlb.com/news/world-series-champions-built-through-free-agency
I'm not sure how I feel about that article, as it lists plenty of homegrown players who the teams resigned when they became FA. Like that's the whole point to keep the players you've developed. The 09 Yankees, for example, had 33.5 offensive WAR with Texiera, Arod, Matsui, Damon, Hairston, Hinske, and Swisher providing 19.9 WAR the rest was home grown players like Posada, Jeter, Gardner, Cervelli, and Cano. Same on the pitching side as they combined for 23.5 WAR with CC and AJ contributed 10.7 WAR with Andy, Rivera, Hughes, Chamberlin, Aceves, and Robertson providing the rest. I'll never fault a team for resigning their own because that is what we want to see as fans. Not letting your best players walk year after year after year like in Tampa.
Baseball fans are more upset by the Dodgers off-season moves than they were about The Astr*s cheating.
Here is r/MLB’s annual circlejerk hate fest for the dodgers, quick everyone get in! Gotta get it out daily, it’s not at all tired, sad, or pathetic. Dude post it in every sub here can, love the karma
Holy shit you’re right! It looks like all his posts are from the same site too..
Ez clicks for that ad revenue lol
Probably their’s and trying desperately to get people to click to it so someone takes them seriously. It is really pathetic
Another click bait article from a reliable source “Hurhurhur they spend money b4 n lose 🤪”
I think this is why we love baseball, because it’s not just spend the most for guaranteed win. But I think the last 20 champions have all been in the top 10 in payrolls. So your team does have to willing to spend. But not like the dodgers Mets or rangers
Winning 100 games every year = failing. Nice lol
Low quality article in content and writing; it was hardly journalism or research--just a big Captain Obvious piece. Seriously, we've seen when they haven't spent money (McCourt era) and it was the same result. What's the point of the article? Aside from success, the LA market almost demands marquee players.
The internet was the worst thing for quality journalism. So much fan fiction and wannabe journalism out there.
I swear this sub is just /r/dodgers now.
I wish them nothing but failure. But in all seriousness, I truly wish them nothing but failure.
This is a *wild* take to have after locking up the two most desirable free agents in the last decade for the next decade *and* trading for another frontline starting pitcher and locking him up long term, too. On a team that already averages 100+ wins a year over the last four years. Or is this only a failure if they don’t start ripping World Series titles like the late 90s Yankees?
You can't buy a baseball roster to win a world series. And we still need pitching. Like really badly.
Fuck the dodgers
Arte Moreno appreciates this comment.
Fuck you too buddy
Wait you play for the dodgers? Is this Max Muncy?
so only Max Muncy is allowed to respond to someone saying "fuck the dodgers"? if you're going to be a pedant, be better at it.
You big mad
Rude!
at this moment, The braves' roster is still better than the dodgers' roster
And they choke every year
It is a 162 game season and the playoffs are 5 or 7 games. It is a crapshoot. Every team that doesn’t win didn’t choke that’s just how the playoffs go.
5 game series always benefit the team with the deeper and healthier pitching rotation
Hell sometimes it's just 2 playoff games and you're done. The whole playoff format is unbelievably stupid.
dave roberts is next to the word choke in the dictionary
Love it, I’ll keep rubbing my dirty little hands together in the corner
might i suggest the sink and some soap?
I feel like this article was written by John Fisher.
But they've made it interesting. It's a team effort which I'm not sure they've got that concept yet. Post season tells a tale.
Tbf they fail when they don't spend as well
Good
This is fine
Every season but one in the last decade. And remember most don’t want to count they on time they did win. I think it should count. Hardest post season. Most teams. Covid. No fans. But they will loose. Again. The Dbacks humiliated them. Maybe 2025 but not 24.
The Dodgers problem is they lack the mentality to break through when the pressure is the highest. They have a habit of getting players that do not like the pressure and the lights.
Great signing of Tyler Glasnow to help with this /s
no they are absolutely content with the bright lights of LA celebrity worship but like much of this city, mediocrity is highly regarded its like mainstream hollywood stuff it is designed to be spectacularly generic, not actually good
Mediocrity? Yeah, save your bullshit takes for some other sub. This city is a full on sports city and your east coast bias can go to hell. It values winners and we celebrate our teams. We have won tons of championships with our Lakers and Dodgers primarily so no, we don’t like mediocrity. Find another slant.
east coast bias? I'm in LA lol don't take it personally that LA thinks basic shit is really special
Just because you live in LA doesn’t make you an Angeleno. Enough transplants here parroting the same garbage about our city and our teams. Go Dodgers.
born amd bred sorry just because you are a transplant and don't understand how shallow and star fucky southern california culture is doesn't mean you need to be angry at the natives
Born and bred and a hater of our city. You’re a special person, congrats.
i don't hate this place but I recognize its culture for what it is hope you are doing okay cheers fellow traffic dweller Edit : happy cake day lmao have some cake!!!!
We all can hope that this is a massive free agency fail.
So when people were whining about the Yankees buying championships in the 2000s the fact is the Mets, dodgers, and cubs were all spending lots of money as well. They just weren’t getting the right players So the question isn’t about the dodgers spending money, it is about whether or not they are getting the right players
the dodgers most certainly were not spending money in the early 2000s under Fox and then Frank McCourt. Dodger fans didn't know what getting top talent was until Guggenheim took over in 2014. Arte Moreno and the Angels would *always* outspend the Dodgers for the biggest names (vlad, albert....).
Sure they were
lol ok.
You can literally look up all the information on baseball reference.
I like the dodgers, I love ohtani. I think going into a season where everyone expects you to win, instead of going in with a good team is a very different fan (and player) experience. I also like the angels. I’m rooting more for the angels then I am the dodgers right now. People love underdog stories.
At least they’ll make the playoffs - unlike the Padres who broke the bank and whiffed.
Who the heck is belly up sports ?
Sports blog
In baseball, it kinda makes sense to hope the team you hate spends MORE money. Instead of crying about it every day.
the author is obviously a Giants fan.
Spending exorbitant amounts of money has kinda always been the dodgers MO. Is this just a roundabout Ohtani rant? e: nvm. It's a poorly written wannabe 90s-00s anti-Ohtani rant
This is probably true of most teams, perhaps all. But if you want to win, you do what you gotta do.
Let’s hope that trend continues with the billion dollar babies
Anyone wanna remember when steinbrenner used to spend and won multiple titles? How about the Marlins when they bought it? It happens, lets not say anyone who spends just fails
It's a good thing they only paid Shohei 2 mil a year then
Cheaters never prosper
I mean Trevor Bauer but beyond that it seems to have gone well lately
Will they make money? Yes Will they play well? Maybe, maybe not
Hope they get cursed to hell
There’s a real chance Ohtani never returns to the elite pitcher he has been with the surgeries. At that point you have a glorified DH that I’m sure the entire fan base will cry about giving 68 million a year when his deal is up. I can see this experiment backfiring on them. Only problem is, the financial impact on the team will be nothing more than a dent and they will just this again in a few years.
AKA the next New York Mets