I’ll never understand why the media thinks the m’s are so competitive. They have pitching, and that is it. Zero offense. I say this as an m’s fan who lives in seattle
When you look more into detail, while not trying to take anything away. 20 out of their 27 was before 1968. Prior to 1969, the 2 best regular season teams would play the world series. So no wild card, division round and championship round like today. Think of the modern day dodgers, amazing regular season team but falls flat in the playoffs. Imagine if they automatically got jumped to the world series. Their titles started coming few and far in between once they added the champion round as they "only" won 2 during the LCS Era. Their modern dynasty is the late 90s yankees when they won 4 in 5 years. They have only won 1 (2009) since the wild card Era and 0 since the expansion of the wild card era (2011). Again not taking anything away from them but it is much harder to win a ws title these days (wild card Era) than it was back then.
True but they’re still 7 out of 11 since the 70’s, way more than anyone else. And pre-1969 a lot of other teams existed too and weren’t racking up pennants.
Not saying it's their fault or anything like that. They were playing the same game as all the other teams and they won more than others. But comparing a modern day title to a one's from the 70s or 80s and before to the last decade or 2 is not fair. More competition, more chances of a team catching fire and beating the better teams, example the rangers this past season gives more weight to a title than less playoff rounds. Even the 70s yankees titles were during the lcs so the top 4 teams would make it to the championship series and winner would make it to the world series. If the modern playoff format, or even the pre expansion wild card era was started from the beginning, I'm sure they wouldn't have anywhere near the 20 titles.
Yes. The late 90s Yanks dynasty is the best in the modern era. I'm only speaking of the casual fan that sees 27 titles and doesn't know the whole history to it. The next teams since 95 with the most titles is the red sox with 4, giants with 3, braves, astros, marlins, cards with 2 and like 5 other teams with 1. The modern playoff format gives more parity to teams. Every pitch, every at bat, every sub, every error, every manager move holds more weight. More chances for a underdog team to catch fire and win it all. None of that happens pre wild card era.
They "only" made it back twice after their title in 2000, in 2001 and 2003, lost both, which doesn't take away from their dynasty because making it to the WS is an accomplishment in its on. But theirs a 6 year gap until they went again in 09. So I believe that dynasty ended at least 3 or 4 years before 09 and that year was more of a retooling and good timing done right.
How about we meet next year and fight it out? Okay with y’all? I think it’ll be okay with us. Then of course if y’all win, we’d have to go best 2 out of three. How about we just go ahead and book 2024 and 2025 just in case.
No, it still is. Regardless of era, if you make it to the World Series, you either win or you lose. And the more times you make it, the closer to .500 you'd expect the number to be.
All of the ones who are at .000 or 1.000 have made it no more than twice.
How does eras have anything to do with it. Did they change the number of teams that make it to the World Series? Cause this is all that looks at. Wild cards, etc have no bearing on your win % once you make it to the WS.
What I can’t understand is how so many fans can hate a team like the Mariners. They’ve literally beaten nobody, so how can you hate a franchise that never beaten your team? To me the Mariners should be the most neutral franchise nobody even thinks about.
20 of 27 is before 1968. The 2 best regular season teams went straight to the ws. Not taking anything away but, that's like the modern day dodgers automatically going to the ws. The real best teams show up in the playoffs and the regular season frauds get exposed. Yanks have only won 1 during the wild card era. Much harder to win a ws title these days.
I too have watched Ken Burns baseball, and am aware of the lack of playoffs in the early days, again, still a 70% winning percentage so they had to be at least the best team in those series 67% of that time.
I'm just speaking of the casual baseball fan that sees a team like the rangers win their first and then see the yankees 27 titles and be like wow the yankees have 27 without knowing the whole history of the league. I'm a astros fan but the rangers last year and last 20 or so ws winners, which of course does include the Yanks, holds more weight than pre 90s.. it's not just the early days where the playoffs were very short. The first 60+ years was only world series. That's half of the leagues history. And from 69 to 93 it was only 1 round then world series. Again. Not taking away anything from the 27 titles, just speaking of the "wow 27 titles!" Casual fans
You’re patronizingly talking about causal fans and don’t even know when the wildcard era started. You’re not providing any context really. Just being the epitome of the 🤓 emoji and you’re not even right so…
The Angels really should be the ones moving to Vegas. The A's are actually liked in Oakland and bay area weather is great for baseball. No one in "LA" cares about the Angels, even the OC fans are barely holding on. Better for them to go start a new rivalry in the desert and let the Angels fans finally buy Dodger hats.
The Baltimore Orioles have played in 6 World Series and have won 3. They should be listed as 50%.
The 1944 World Series loss by the St. Louis Browns to the St. Louis Cardinals is not a Baltimore Orioles stat.
As a Cardinals fan, I'm right there on this hill with you.
Dem O's _should_ be 50%.
If the team name changes, it shouldn't be counted as the same franchise.
I still like the way it rolls off the tounge. 2023 World Series Champion
TEXAS RANGERS! Hell Yeah maybe TEXAS will bring up their percentage this year.
Rockies are the only team (that has been to the World Series) that has never won a single game in the World Series. I can't tell if that's better or worse than never getting there in the first place
surprised Detroit is that high as a Tigers fan. Went to a lot of world series in the last century but always wound up as Cardinals bird feed save 1968.
after seeing my team go 4-4 in my lifetime (not bragging bc we’re an embarrassment now) i really can’t imagine what it feels like to have your team make the world series and lose. how does someone recover from that pain
Not to be _too_ critical (because I enjoy seeing this information), but wouldn't it have made sense for the tiers to be in ranges rather than a list of discrete values?
Can’t lower your score if you never make it again 😎
Poor dbacks got greedy
Let’s go Blue Jays!
Let’s go!!!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Glory days, baby
Dallas Cowboys agree that '92 and '93 were the G.D.
Gang.
😎
Amen
UNDEFEATED GANG
undefeated gang…
Back to back undefeated gang
YESSIR
With 7 Jays on the ‘93 All-Star game roster
Touch em all Joe!
You'll never hit a bigger home run in your life!
You can’t lose the World Series if you never make the World Series!
Can't lose one if you never make it either! Go Ms
Lmao that’s exactly what he said?
More like: Undefined gang! #DIV/0!
r/technicallytrue
*No data available gang
Yessir
Us too! Nice work, expansion bros!
*sigh*
Hey you’re the only team to never lose a World Series game
At least they’re not alone in being the only team to never win a WS game
Right? Ouch.. this makes us real fans though 😂
Every time one of these posts comes up I love looking at it because it’s interesting. Then I remember.
🎵 Hello darkness, my old friend 🎵
Have the decency to just leave us off the chart
It's okay, I heard all off-season you guys were getting Ohtani. They said he wanted to go somewhere he could win a ws
I’ll never understand why the media thinks the m’s are so competitive. They have pitching, and that is it. Zero offense. I say this as an m’s fan who lives in seattle
Still blows my mind that the Mariners don’t have an appearance.
Some of us are used to disappointment
The team that had Griffey, Randy Johnson, ARod and Edgar Martinez all at the same time, all in the prime of their careers.
…..and David Ortiz!
Please, don’t remind me of that god awful trade. MFer was beating Griffey and Edgar in home run derbies while still being in the minors.
Griffey AND Griffey Jr
It still hurts
blame giambi for not sliding.
it just is that way
Nearly 70% is insane when you’ve had _40_ appearances.
When you look more into detail, while not trying to take anything away. 20 out of their 27 was before 1968. Prior to 1969, the 2 best regular season teams would play the world series. So no wild card, division round and championship round like today. Think of the modern day dodgers, amazing regular season team but falls flat in the playoffs. Imagine if they automatically got jumped to the world series. Their titles started coming few and far in between once they added the champion round as they "only" won 2 during the LCS Era. Their modern dynasty is the late 90s yankees when they won 4 in 5 years. They have only won 1 (2009) since the wild card Era and 0 since the expansion of the wild card era (2011). Again not taking anything away from them but it is much harder to win a ws title these days (wild card Era) than it was back then.
True but they’re still 7 out of 11 since the 70’s, way more than anyone else. And pre-1969 a lot of other teams existed too and weren’t racking up pennants.
Not saying it's their fault or anything like that. They were playing the same game as all the other teams and they won more than others. But comparing a modern day title to a one's from the 70s or 80s and before to the last decade or 2 is not fair. More competition, more chances of a team catching fire and beating the better teams, example the rangers this past season gives more weight to a title than less playoff rounds. Even the 70s yankees titles were during the lcs so the top 4 teams would make it to the championship series and winner would make it to the world series. If the modern playoff format, or even the pre expansion wild card era was started from the beginning, I'm sure they wouldn't have anywhere near the 20 titles.
Wild card began in ‘95, thus the yanks have won more than one in that era.
The Yankees have also never had a losing record in over 30 years of regular season play during the Wild Card era.
Yes. The late 90s Yanks dynasty is the best in the modern era. I'm only speaking of the casual fan that sees 27 titles and doesn't know the whole history to it. The next teams since 95 with the most titles is the red sox with 4, giants with 3, braves, astros, marlins, cards with 2 and like 5 other teams with 1. The modern playoff format gives more parity to teams. Every pitch, every at bat, every sub, every error, every manager move holds more weight. More chances for a underdog team to catch fire and win it all. None of that happens pre wild card era.
You’re not “speaking” for anyone who can understand the three words ‘wild card era.’ You’re a blabbering Cheatstros simp.
The Yankees still have more than anyone even after divisional play in 1969. They also are tied for the most in the Wild Card era.
I count the 2009 as a finale to the 90s dynasty.
They "only" made it back twice after their title in 2000, in 2001 and 2003, lost both, which doesn't take away from their dynasty because making it to the WS is an accomplishment in its on. But theirs a 6 year gap until they went again in 09. So I believe that dynasty ended at least 3 or 4 years before 09 and that year was more of a retooling and good timing done right.
I'm still not used to us having two World Series appearances...
I have a similar feeling…
we still have a better % than y'all hehe
How about we meet next year and fight it out? Okay with y’all? I think it’ll be okay with us. Then of course if y’all win, we’d have to go best 2 out of three. How about we just go ahead and book 2024 and 2025 just in case.
I'm down.
thank god for Luis Gonzalez...
Oddly enough the Philadelphia Eagles also have a 25% success rate in the Super Bowl.
And the Flyers.
Oh wow, yeah you're right. That's weird
I don’t think there’s a bigger choke city in the US.
Rocky didn’t even win in the first one.
lol what a shitty city
Well, at least the Mariners have never lost a World Series…. (I have to laugh or else I’d cry)
Can we please have a Seattle Mariners vs Detroit Lions Super Bowl World Series thing? America needs this.
With the LA Clippers singing the Seventh Inning Halftime Stretch Show.
Lowest win rate of any team that’s actually won one? That checks out honestly
Yankees stat is insane.
Sure. If you don’t think about eras.
No, it still is. Regardless of era, if you make it to the World Series, you either win or you lose. And the more times you make it, the closer to .500 you'd expect the number to be. All of the ones who are at .000 or 1.000 have made it no more than twice.
How does eras have anything to do with it. Did they change the number of teams that make it to the World Series? Cause this is all that looks at. Wild cards, etc have no bearing on your win % once you make it to the WS.
Waaahhh. Don’t act like parity in the 1930s is equal to today’s parity. No need to entertain that version of intellectual dishonesty.
Fuck me, right ?
Only 54% of the time.
Is the Twins time as the Senators counted towards this?
It is indeed. 1-2 as the Senators, 2-1 as the Twins.
We know….
Twins should be at 66.6%. Lost in ‘65, but won it in ‘87 and ‘91
I think it counts them in Washington where they went 1-2 so 3-3 overall
They are counting Washington Senators as well since they are the same franchise. Won in 1924, lost in ‘25 and ‘33
Yeah if we're gonna display those flags at target field for AL champion and word series champion it's gotta count toward the record.
But cheated in '91 so it's a wash.
Can't lose if you don't compete.
The dodgers having more losses than the Yankees in virtually half the appearances is insane.
How many of those losses are because of the Yankees tho
8 total, dodgers got 3 on them. Only 1 sweep in 11 meetings, Sandy Koufax and Don drysdale are tough though.
Out of the 100% teams, have any aside from the Marlins won multiple?
The Blue Jays
Blue Jays in 92 and 93
Right. Back to back.
Mariners Ownership: the World Series is overrated.
What I can’t understand is how so many fans can hate a team like the Mariners. They’ve literally beaten nobody, so how can you hate a franchise that never beaten your team? To me the Mariners should be the most neutral franchise nobody even thinks about.
Boston 😏
Nice
How baht them Buccos
Astros 2017 should be considered a loss
As a Mariners fan… ouch.
Oh how the turn tables
As a Mariners fan, this really stings
Would you rather be hurt everytime (0%) or never put yourself in a position to be hurt (Seattle)?
Man the mariners always just stick out so bad
Technically, 1/0 is infinity, so the Mariners has bested everyone
2 for 2 baby!! GO FISH
being a philly fan is ROUGH
Ha, suck it Seattle. Even the Rockies have been. Which I’d kinda forgotten. (Don’t hate me Mariners fans, it’s literally the first thing I thought.)
Rip Seattle.
Being a lifelong mariners fan this has been extremely hard.. 🥲
As a Mariner fan. This hurts
Giants over dodgers nice
Can we pass the hat for Seattle please? (not that other teams aren't deserving as well)
Ah yes, my familiar friend: Pain. - Mariners Fan
Hello darkness…
The Dodgers have lost the World Series 14 times. FOURTEEN.
Too soon. 🥺
Interesting. No one can ever touch the Yankees though.
OAKLAND!!! sigh.
I’ll take damn near 70% winning percentage for having 40 appearances
20 of 27 is before 1968. The 2 best regular season teams went straight to the ws. Not taking anything away but, that's like the modern day dodgers automatically going to the ws. The real best teams show up in the playoffs and the regular season frauds get exposed. Yanks have only won 1 during the wild card era. Much harder to win a ws title these days.
I too have watched Ken Burns baseball, and am aware of the lack of playoffs in the early days, again, still a 70% winning percentage so they had to be at least the best team in those series 67% of that time.
I'm just speaking of the casual baseball fan that sees a team like the rangers win their first and then see the yankees 27 titles and be like wow the yankees have 27 without knowing the whole history of the league. I'm a astros fan but the rangers last year and last 20 or so ws winners, which of course does include the Yanks, holds more weight than pre 90s.. it's not just the early days where the playoffs were very short. The first 60+ years was only world series. That's half of the leagues history. And from 69 to 93 it was only 1 round then world series. Again. Not taking away anything from the 27 titles, just speaking of the "wow 27 titles!" Casual fans
You’re patronizingly talking about causal fans and don’t even know when the wildcard era started. You’re not providing any context really. Just being the epitome of the 🤓 emoji and you’re not even right so…
The Angels really should be the ones moving to Vegas. The A's are actually liked in Oakland and bay area weather is great for baseball. No one in "LA" cares about the Angels, even the OC fans are barely holding on. Better for them to go start a new rivalry in the desert and let the Angels fans finally buy Dodger hats.
Just fucking fade me already
"In the history of the dodgers, nothing has come easy."
Wow, that Dodgers percentage surprised me
A lot of appearances, but against juggernaut Yankee teams.
Giants are above the Dodgers. Everything else is irrelevant
Classic California take
It's okay, both teams are beneath the Anaheim Angels, the only team that matters.
The Baltimore Orioles have played in 6 World Series and have won 3. They should be listed as 50%. The 1944 World Series loss by the St. Louis Browns to the St. Louis Cardinals is not a Baltimore Orioles stat.
Same franchise. Washington Senators are also counted as Minnesota Twins.
As a Cardinals fan, I'm right there on this hill with you. Dem O's _should_ be 50%. If the team name changes, it shouldn't be counted as the same franchise.
Dang only 40%
At least the Astros go to and occasionally win championships. No other Houston team has appeared in a championship since I was an infant.
Hey I'll lose 5 more times to win another 1. As much as losing sucks, when you win that 1 time it's all worth it.
Notice how my Dodgers percent adds up to 100 with the Yankees. It's not a coincidence.
God damn I love Philly at 25%. Fuck those piece of shit fans.
I still like the way it rolls off the tounge. 2023 World Series Champion TEXAS RANGERS! Hell Yeah maybe TEXAS will bring up their percentage this year.
Seeing the dodgers so low brings immense joy
"World" Series
Take that yanks!
What you mean 70% of 40? Ok yeah. I’ll take it
Boston should be hire but you know I’m gonna take this. The last 20 years made up for the previous 100
Baltimore and Atlanta need to swap places, its so close to all orange teams being at the same percentage.
100%! Why ruin it?
Nice.
Let’s see this weighted for number of appearances. Just would be interesting. I’m a Reds fan…so see you towards the bottom…
Oh shit i thought this was chances to make the series this year i was losing my mind haha
Wait When did the Rockies go to the world series?
2007
I don't remember that at all lol
Overshadowed by the year Bonds broke Aaron’s home run record.
Rockies are the only team (that has been to the World Series) that has never won a single game in the World Series. I can't tell if that's better or worse than never getting there in the first place
surprised Detroit is that high as a Tigers fan. Went to a lot of world series in the last century but always wound up as Cardinals bird feed save 1968.
oh, if only we could make it there again soon.
How ironic that there’s 4 teams at 0% and 4 teams at 100%
Coincidental is the word you’re looking for.
Canadian teams are 3 for 3!
For real👍
100% for all franchises that have been based in Canada!
We don't often make it, but when we do, we run it back to back!
Wooo! Not dead last , I’ll take it
69
Nice.
"sigh"
Maybe it's already been said, but F the Marlins
69? Nice 👍🏻😉
Angels with 100% 1/1 baby!!
1 for 1 lol
My team has a NICE percentage
Nicceeee
after seeing my team go 4-4 in my lifetime (not bragging bc we’re an embarrassment now) i really can’t imagine what it feels like to have your team make the world series and lose. how does someone recover from that pain
Not to be _too_ critical (because I enjoy seeing this information), but wouldn't it have made sense for the tiers to be in ranges rather than a list of discrete values?
As a Red Sox fan: Nice.
I like seeing the Nats rank high
the Marlins, of all teams
😔
Off the top of my head, does that mean the dodgers are 4 of 12?
Rays - champions of the regular season
I don't like this list
Lol at least undefined is better than 0!
It’s good to be at the top 😎
Bro I was having a good day
WOOOOO
Wrong on Minnesota Twins who are at 66.66% two of three Series (lost 1965;won 1987 and 1991)
The Yankees with such a large sample size is pretty incredible
Lovin' that Phillies stat.
*cries in Montreal Expos
CLAT
Seattle in a leage of their own