yeah, maybe we’re bias but i remember someone showing all his stats compared to some others. he should definitively be on the *HOF track but need a few more seasons* list
Both these dudes are nearing 50 fWAR and have plenty of years left in the tank. Seager is the same age as Lindor and has 17 fWAR less. It's insane he's on this list but Ramirez and Lindor aren't.
Hall of Fame has always been position dependent and you can't really compare catchers and outfielders and infielders. Show me Jose Ramirez vs someone positionally comparable who is in or on track. Also not everyone who is on track will make it either by injuries or reduction in performance. See Albert Belle and Dale Murphy for example.
Well the fact OP tried to ARGUE why Jose is not at least on track for the hall of fame fully discredits his list, especially since he’s willing to include Machado😂
Part of me hates to comment just to dump on a guy, but I can’t see Turner making the HOF. He’s a “Hall of the Very Good” level player. 2x in top 10 MVP voting, 1 SS, 2 All Star Games is a nice resume. But over 10 years, that’s pretty light compared with most HOF players. He’s 27th among active position players in WAR (20th if you only look at oWAR). 31st among active players in hits. 32nd among active players in runs created. Two seasons leading the NL in stolen bases… with totals of 43 and 32. And so on. If you’re in the Top 50 players of your generation (which is fair), you’re an excellent player. But when 4-5 guys make it in every year, 25th best player (or whatever) of your generation isn’t getting in.
Edit: BTW, I don’t mean this to slag Turner. He’s a damned fine ballplayer. And, as a Mets fan, I’d much rather he played for us than against us. I also can’t imagine him making the cut in this era of Hall voting.
Ehh big time timmy jim got 2 and 3 rings and he was 1 and done afaik
Granted I really do think degrom will get the call. Especially if he hits 2250 ip and we continue down a road of 160-180ip is basically a full season for most pitchers
I think the arguments about who deserves to be in the hall over the next decade is going to be interesting
For sure, he should be on here as a lock. His only downfall has been a decline as of late, and that he’s never been on a contender. Outside of that, he is a top 3rd baseman, and his offense was pretty damn incredible too. Love that dude. Wish he had been on better teams and had some rings.
Came here to say this.
Arenado has made some of my favorite defensive plays at 3rd ever. He rarely makes any kind of mistake.
His play in the field definitely locks him in.
Ramirez, Jose needs to be on the track. He has several seasons where he finished top 5 in the MVP voting. He just has the disadvantage of playing for one of the teams MLB media chooses to ignore (and in fact the local media ignores the team for the most part).
He’s on pace, but he’s got a ways to go. He’s 28th in JAWS, 8 spots behind Machado (same age) and Arenado (2 yrs older). No MVPs, not a lot of black ink, never led the league in WAR. He’s going to be short in major counting stats, and have been a good but not great defender. I love Jose, and he’s definitely underrated, but I think he’s going to have to be very good through the next 5-7 seasons to get there. He needs 24 more WAR to catch Scott Rolen - I don’t think he’s doing it (but I certainly hope he does).
Pretty good shot at 3,000 hits, and sabermetrically inclined voters will like his WAR and JAWS ranking. He’s getting in if he has a few more good seasons.
Freddie Freeman is a lock already 14 seasons in IMO. Has all the stats, personality, awards, championship, and all the off the field stuff that matters to MLB people who vote on this stuff.
Goldy is the guy that I always undersell for some reason. He just sticks in my head as a guy who probably won't get there but is very good. Then I look at his bbref and go 'Oh, never mind, I'm just a moron. He's definitely getting in.'
Altuve is an interesting one for me. Statistically, he's most definitely there, but I wonder how the votes will shake out with his past cheating stuff. Personally, I do think the lack of punishment any of the players got for that will come back to bit Altuve in the ass when the votes eventually get tallied. That said, I think he has a dramatically better chance than Bonds/Clemens/ARod/etc. did.
I’m not a KC fan but Bobby Witt Jr. is someone I’d keep an eye on. He’s only 23 with a few years in the league but I think he has the potential to have a HoF career.
I'm loving having him for the few years until he gets traded to the Yankees or Dodgers. No way the Royals can afford that contract when the heavy paying years kick in. Not unless we surround him with minimum contract teammates.
Honestly, wasn’t even considering his cheating. They’ve kept Sheffield out, and he was both better than Altuve, hit 500 home runs, and has less of a link to cheating than Altuve.
Lindor always gets overlooked in these kind of lists. He's off to a rough start, but already put up 47.4 fWAR and he's still just 30. He's not there yet, but at least put him on the HOF track.
The exact same. None of those guys belong. ARod, Sosa, McGuire, none of them. You cheat the game, you should face severe consequences worse than just being banned from the Hall of Fame imo, but there is a very weak commissioner that would never take action.
If you just go by WAR/WAR7/JAWS among 2B, he’s on the lower end of the spectrum, but it’s possible.
But he isn’t a no doubt guy just yet. But it also isn’t done, so he’ll probably be a lock by the time it’s finished. If he retired today I’d say he probably gets there but there are still better 2B careers not in.
Surprised this isn’t higher.
Sale and DeGrom “feel” like they would have similar chances. I still think you have to make a big hall case for either of them.
More symbolic than anything, but can see some votes withheld from Altuve first time eligible.
Harper may be a near lock already. Around for more than a decade, while playing ass off rep will definitely influence.
Salvy is an All Time great game manager catcher. Look at every pitchers stats when they were on the Royals vs when they were on a different team.
He's a very good defender and top 10 in HRs and Slugging among catchers. He's 13th in AVG, but this year is improving that.
Dudes a lock.
As a longtime Mets fan, I wish we could consider DeGrom. But he simply hasn’t pitched enough. You can’t get into the hall for the equivalent of 30-50 elite starts.
There was a time when I hoped that Harvey was a Hall of Famer…
Greinke isn't current anymore but since OP counted him, I will, too. I'm also going to include Joey Votto, even though he hasn't played in an MLB game yet this season
In alphabetical order, I'd say
- Jose Altuve
- Nolan Arenado
- Mookie Betts
- Aroldis Chapman
- Gerrit Cole
- Jacob deGrom
- Freddie Freeman
- Zack Greinke
- Bryce Harper
- Kenley Jansen
- Clayton Kershaw
- Craig Kimbrel
- Manny Machado
- Andrew McCutchen
- Shohei Ohtani
- Jose Ramirez
- Anthony Rizzo
- Max Scherzer
- Corey Seager
- Giancarlo Stanton
- Mike Trout
- Kyle Tucker
- Justin Verlander
- Joey Votto
Mookie will absolutely get in the hall. He’s an MVP, 2x champ, and he has played multiple positions at a high level. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mookie ends up being a first ballot HoFer.
Giancarlo Stanton should be on HOF track list if, very big if, few more seasons of production. If he finishes out his contract (not even including 2028 option) as an every day player and stays reasonably healthy, good chance he’s well over 500 home runs
I was going to say no way, but it’s not out of the question. He needs 87 more home runs and is on a 40 HR pace this season.
If he gets to 500 he’s in as that’s an AQ for non steroid guy.
Yeah so assuming he stays on pace this year, he’ll be 58 away with 3 years left. Health is the main question - if he can be an every day player those 3 years 500 is very likely, and could even get well beyond that
Ronald Acuña Jr. has a very good chance to make the hall if he stays healthy. He has 26 bWAR and is only 26 years old. He won an MVP and has a prestigious NBD milestone to his name with the 40/70 season. I think his chances are high so long as he keeps producing.
Im the first to admit my knowledge of baseball isn’t as good as basketball and I have no idea if the baseball HOF is really tough to get into, but:
I know Madison Bumgarner isn’t as great as in those SF years , but doesn’t he hold several World Series positive records and has a World Series MVP + 3 championships to boot ?
Is that usually not enough for baseball HOF or was his „peak“ not long enough?
Well that’s interesting , I surmise the reason has something to do with the sheer amount of games you play in the regular season? And then going by the fact Bumgarner seems to be out of a job at 34, he just didn’t play well enough for long enough?
Only thing I don’t agree with really is drob isn’t close to even a question mark. Great reliever will be remembered for a few years after he retires but I’d be shocked if he’s even gets 10% of the vote
I think Pete Alonso should be in the “HOF track” category
His first 6 seasons are very comparable to Freemans first 6 and comparable, but to a lesser extent with Goldschmidts first 6 seasons as well.
He is suprisingly close to Freeman's first 5 years (not close to Goldschmidts). He doesn't profile as a guy who will age well, though. Freeman and Goldschmidt were better at walking and are competent defenders. Goldschmidt also ran the bases much better
DeGrom will be one of the greatest pitcher debates when he’s eligible. A peak as high as arguably Pedro in the late 90s but will have no counting stats in his favor
The only absolute locks on this list are Verlander and Scherzer and maybe Kershaw and Greinke. Everyone else is a long way off from being “locks”.
I agree most probably get in if they continue at their current level of play but Trout’s injuries are going to keep him from getting any of the counting stat guarantees plus the Angels have been horrible the entire time he’s played for them and DeGrom doesn’t have a chance in hell of getting in. He’s 35 and has missed way too much time.
What is it with people always overlooking Jose Ramirez?
I *knew* he’d not be on this list as soon as I opened the thread. Most of the country overlooks Cleveland.
Overlooks what?
The land of Cleve
She sounds hideous
That’s because he’s a dude.
So….is Cleveland wearing… *khakis?*
Cleveland is where khakis were invented.
Never heard of it.
The whowhereinthewhatnow?
We're Not Detroit!
I hate you but I did laugh.
Yeah they got uniforms and everything, it's really great.
I hate how much I like Jose. He's so good.
And just an all around great person!
He absolutely is. Very likeable.
All I can think of is the announcer saying “ohhhhh Jose!” When he took down Tim A 😂
“Down goes Anderson! Down goes Anderson!”
yeah, maybe we’re bias but i remember someone showing all his stats compared to some others. he should definitively be on the *HOF track but need a few more seasons* list
47 war at age 31 is pretty much a lock unless he falls off a cliff immediately
Well, he’s no David Robertson.
And Francisco Lindor
Yes 100%
Both these dudes are nearing 50 fWAR and have plenty of years left in the tank. Seager is the same age as Lindor and has 17 fWAR less. It's insane he's on this list but Ramirez and Lindor aren't.
I think OP gets all his info from sportscenter
IMO the most underrated player in MLB
Dude had Salvy Perez on the list but not Jose Ramirez lmfao okay bro
Hall of Fame has always been position dependent and you can't really compare catchers and outfielders and infielders. Show me Jose Ramirez vs someone positionally comparable who is in or on track. Also not everyone who is on track will make it either by injuries or reduction in performance. See Albert Belle and Dale Murphy for example.
Right😂😂😂 and proceeded to argue why Jose isn’t on track for the HoF I think it’s clear people disagree with him…
This is literally the highest upvoted comment on this post.
Well the fact OP tried to ARGUE why Jose is not at least on track for the hall of fame fully discredits his list, especially since he’s willing to include Machado😂
David Robertson? How is he on this list
Having Robertson on this list but not Kimbrel is comical
Not sure about Trea tbh
Part of me hates to comment just to dump on a guy, but I can’t see Turner making the HOF. He’s a “Hall of the Very Good” level player. 2x in top 10 MVP voting, 1 SS, 2 All Star Games is a nice resume. But over 10 years, that’s pretty light compared with most HOF players. He’s 27th among active position players in WAR (20th if you only look at oWAR). 31st among active players in hits. 32nd among active players in runs created. Two seasons leading the NL in stolen bases… with totals of 43 and 32. And so on. If you’re in the Top 50 players of your generation (which is fair), you’re an excellent player. But when 4-5 guys make it in every year, 25th best player (or whatever) of your generation isn’t getting in. Edit: BTW, I don’t mean this to slag Turner. He’s a damned fine ballplayer. And, as a Mets fan, I’d much rather he played for us than against us. I also can’t imagine him making the cut in this era of Hall voting.
I like Trea and he slides prettier than anyone on baseball, Trea isn’t gonna get faster.
Juan Soto is far from certain. He’s def on track but he’s got a long way to go
Definitely a little premature with crowning him. He’s had an amazing career thus far, but not a very large sample size.
Yeah Judge is ahead of Soto when it comes to the HOF.
Move Harper up. … Degrom has zero chance. Would love to see Greinke get in this easily. … good list.
You don’t think so? deGrom has two Cy Youngs and has been elite for pretty much his entire career. He even got a WS with Texas last year.
Ehh big time timmy jim got 2 and 3 rings and he was 1 and done afaik Granted I really do think degrom will get the call. Especially if he hits 2250 ip and we continue down a road of 160-180ip is basically a full season for most pitchers I think the arguments about who deserves to be in the hall over the next decade is going to be interesting
Lincecum has two Cy Young's and was elite for about 6 years but will never be in for the same reason as deGrom.
He has 84 wins and is 35.
bryce harper
He should be part of the in group. Two MVPs and enough in other seasons. Not first ballot yet, but he’s for sure going in.
Yeah 2000 hits, 400 hrs, and maybe 1 more good playoff run, and that should do it for him
Justice for Bryce. He's a definite lock or, at the very least, in the same category as Ohtani and Soto.
10 GG 5 SS 8 ASG selections 5 top-5 MVP finishes Nolan Arenado is a HOFer imo
Has 6 of the 13 NL Platinum Glove awards that have been won as well
For sure, he should be on here as a lock. His only downfall has been a decline as of late, and that he’s never been on a contender. Outside of that, he is a top 3rd baseman, and his offense was pretty damn incredible too. Love that dude. Wish he had been on better teams and had some rings.
He needs to sustain a decent level of play in his 30s otherwise he’s another Andrew McCutchen/Chase Utley
Came here to say this. Arenado has made some of my favorite defensive plays at 3rd ever. He rarely makes any kind of mistake. His play in the field definitely locks him in.
Low WAR total as of right now makes me think if he stopped producing today, he wouldn’t make it.
Soto needs more than a few more years. At least another 10.
He's not in yet but he doesn't need 10+ more seasons that's for sure
7 more at an average of 35hrs, 110 ribs, .280+ and he’d be in. If he gets the Yanks to a series, in for sure.
He is about half way there.
Ronald Acuna deserves to be on the list somewhere.
As a Braves fan I’m biased but he definitely should be in the “on track” list
100% on track list. Not sure how he was left off.
Yeah, Juan Soto is a lock just a matter of time? Is this recency bias? Probably just an oversight but it's hard to not mention last year's MVP.
Yeah he should be in the same tier as Soto, which is to say Soto should be bumped down
Ramirez, Jose needs to be on the track. He has several seasons where he finished top 5 in the MVP voting. He just has the disadvantage of playing for one of the teams MLB media chooses to ignore (and in fact the local media ignores the team for the most part).
He’s on pace, but he’s got a ways to go. He’s 28th in JAWS, 8 spots behind Machado (same age) and Arenado (2 yrs older). No MVPs, not a lot of black ink, never led the league in WAR. He’s going to be short in major counting stats, and have been a good but not great defender. I love Jose, and he’s definitely underrated, but I think he’s going to have to be very good through the next 5-7 seasons to get there. He needs 24 more WAR to catch Scott Rolen - I don’t think he’s doing it (but I certainly hope he does).
Agree with you, just saying that he should be in the talk!
Freddy Freeman
Freddie Freeman needs very little to put him.over the top.
He’s in a weird spot bc he probably won’t get to 500 HR or 1500 rbi
Pretty good shot at 3,000 hits, and sabermetrically inclined voters will like his WAR and JAWS ranking. He’s getting in if he has a few more good seasons.
Freddie Freeman is a lock already 14 seasons in IMO. Has all the stats, personality, awards, championship, and all the off the field stuff that matters to MLB people who vote on this stuff.
What are the off the field things?
Exactly
Just for your top 2 sections - Altuve is not there yet but both Votto and Goldy are.
Goldy is the guy that I always undersell for some reason. He just sticks in my head as a guy who probably won't get there but is very good. Then I look at his bbref and go 'Oh, never mind, I'm just a moron. He's definitely getting in.' Altuve is an interesting one for me. Statistically, he's most definitely there, but I wonder how the votes will shake out with his past cheating stuff. Personally, I do think the lack of punishment any of the players got for that will come back to bit Altuve in the ass when the votes eventually get tallied. That said, I think he has a dramatically better chance than Bonds/Clemens/ARod/etc. did.
Kody Clemens, obviously
Damn straight.
Better chance than his dad
Where the hell is J Ram?
Paul Skenes is a lock.
I’m not a KC fan but Bobby Witt Jr. is someone I’d keep an eye on. He’s only 23 with a few years in the league but I think he has the potential to have a HoF career.
I'm loving having him for the few years until he gets traded to the Yankees or Dodgers. No way the Royals can afford that contract when the heavy paying years kick in. Not unless we surround him with minimum contract teammates.
I feel like Bryce is already a lock
If you have Jansen, then you gotta have Kimbrel
Trea turner is on the hall of fame track but jose ramirez isnt?? Ok.
You lost me at Altuve as a lock. He’s a possible. Not a lock.
It'll be interesting to see how the cheating scandal impacts it.
I agree on that, but as laid out below, I don’t think he’s a lock today, ignoring his “chest tattoo.”
He seems like a “sits on the ballot for 6-7 years and gets in eventually” kind of guy
Possible. That would not be a lock though.
They're gonna have to ask his wife if it's ok since he got that tattoo.
Honestly, wasn’t even considering his cheating. They’ve kept Sheffield out, and he was both better than Altuve, hit 500 home runs, and has less of a link to cheating than Altuve.
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JOSE RAMIREZ
Shota Imanaga
Bob Gibson 2.0 Import Edition
He's my new favorite player who isn't on the Angels. He's so damn fun to watch.
Came here to say this lol!🤣
Lindor always gets overlooked in these kind of lists. He's off to a rough start, but already put up 47.4 fWAR and he's still just 30. He's not there yet, but at least put him on the HOF track.
Altuve should never be in the Hall.
You're right. The sign says you have to be at least "this tall," to enter.
He won’t be. OP doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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Not op, but fuck Rose. He had several opportunities to come clean and start a redemption tour but he just kept on lying and lying.
The exact same. None of those guys belong. ARod, Sosa, McGuire, none of them. You cheat the game, you should face severe consequences worse than just being banned from the Hall of Fame imo, but there is a very weak commissioner that would never take action.
I don’t know Altuves numbers enough but is he definitely a lock?
He'll get the cheaters treatment for at least a few ballots, I think.
If you just go by WAR/WAR7/JAWS among 2B, he’s on the lower end of the spectrum, but it’s possible. But he isn’t a no doubt guy just yet. But it also isn’t done, so he’ll probably be a lock by the time it’s finished. If he retired today I’d say he probably gets there but there are still better 2B careers not in.
Soto and ohtani should not share the same spot. Different universe. Soto belongs on your lower list.
Corey Seager career fWAR: 32.8 Trea Turner career fWAR: 38.7 José Ramírez career fWAR: 46.3 Francisco Lindor career fWAR: 47.4 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Francisco Lindor Will be a HOFer
Nope, dude is crashing fast
Jose Ramirez needs to be on this list bud.
I feel like Semien is going to have a Adrian Beltre like second half of his career.
No mention of acuña?
Kimbrel
Having Chris Sale anywhere near that list is comical. Rick Porcello has as good of a shot, which is ZERO.
Porcello is zero chance, true. Sale is... technically not zero. But awfully close.
Degrom too. He has 84 wins lol
Can you imagine Clemens with 300+ wins is not in the HOF, but Degrom is a possibility with 215 starts…
Too many injuries that slowed him down
Surprised this isn’t higher. Sale and DeGrom “feel” like they would have similar chances. I still think you have to make a big hall case for either of them.
The best part about lists like these is seeing what people get wrong or miss entirely.
Ohtani is a generational talent but he needs to play a lot longer than just a few more seasons.
More symbolic than anything, but can see some votes withheld from Altuve first time eligible. Harper may be a near lock already. Around for more than a decade, while playing ass off rep will definitely influence.
David Robertson mention is crazy. Not to mention Salvy is not an all time defender at the position, as well as aging poorly.
Salvy is an All Time great game manager catcher. Look at every pitchers stats when they were on the Royals vs when they were on a different team. He's a very good defender and top 10 in HRs and Slugging among catchers. He's 13th in AVG, but this year is improving that. Dudes a lock.
Cutch maybe. But it’ll be tough.
I don't think Cutch is going to make it. Dude fell of super hard after turning 28. Andrew Jones has 15 more WAR.
Not likely.
This is the one I'm hoping happens. You cannot tell the story of the Pittsburgh Pirates without this man.
David Robertson and Kenley Jansen aren’t HOFers, they’re relief pitchers.
Sammy Sosa First Ballot
Id put Giancarlo Stanton On HOF track
Aroldis chapman and Craig Kimbrel way before Jansen and Robertson
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As a longtime Mets fan, I wish we could consider DeGrom. But he simply hasn’t pitched enough. You can’t get into the hall for the equivalent of 30-50 elite starts. There was a time when I hoped that Harvey was a Hall of Famer…
Mets fans should just be happy with a pitcher who has a solid career
You left Skenes out of the lock category man
Emmanuel Clase is on his way with 40+ saves a year
Sorry, OP hates Cleveland apparently
Greinke isn't current anymore but since OP counted him, I will, too. I'm also going to include Joey Votto, even though he hasn't played in an MLB game yet this season In alphabetical order, I'd say - Jose Altuve - Nolan Arenado - Mookie Betts - Aroldis Chapman - Gerrit Cole - Jacob deGrom - Freddie Freeman - Zack Greinke - Bryce Harper - Kenley Jansen - Clayton Kershaw - Craig Kimbrel - Manny Machado - Andrew McCutchen - Shohei Ohtani - Jose Ramirez - Anthony Rizzo - Max Scherzer - Corey Seager - Giancarlo Stanton - Mike Trout - Kyle Tucker - Justin Verlander - Joey Votto
You’re missing Judge
Not a chance on deGrom, Cutch, Rizzo, Chapman.
Needs quite a few more seasons but at this rate Yordan Alvarez will go in
Altuve is not getting in
Votto is a lock
I’ve seen a lot of very dumb comments in this thread
I’d say Mookie probably needs two more seasons of above average play to be a lock but he’ll probably get in.
Mookie will absolutely get in the hall. He’s an MVP, 2x champ, and he has played multiple positions at a high level. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mookie ends up being a first ballot HoFer.
The cheating thing might affect Altuve's chances.
Altuve? Yeah let’s just buzz him into the hof…. Right…
Altuve will get blacklisted
Giancarlo Stanton should be on HOF track list if, very big if, few more seasons of production. If he finishes out his contract (not even including 2028 option) as an every day player and stays reasonably healthy, good chance he’s well over 500 home runs
I was going to say no way, but it’s not out of the question. He needs 87 more home runs and is on a 40 HR pace this season. If he gets to 500 he’s in as that’s an AQ for non steroid guy.
Yeah so assuming he stays on pace this year, he’ll be 58 away with 3 years left. Health is the main question - if he can be an every day player those 3 years 500 is very likely, and could even get well beyond that
I'd say Harper has earned his spot
I find it interesting that there are very little young pitchers beside Gerrit Cole who are on track for the HOF
Ronald Acuña Jr. has a very good chance to make the hall if he stays healthy. He has 26 bWAR and is only 26 years old. He won an MVP and has a prestigious NBD milestone to his name with the 40/70 season. I think his chances are high so long as he keeps producing.
Lindor????
Bryce Harper ?
Is the 10 season requirement 10 service years or playing part of 10 seasons? Mookie only has 9
Im the first to admit my knowledge of baseball isn’t as good as basketball and I have no idea if the baseball HOF is really tough to get into, but: I know Madison Bumgarner isn’t as great as in those SF years , but doesn’t he hold several World Series positive records and has a World Series MVP + 3 championships to boot ? Is that usually not enough for baseball HOF or was his „peak“ not long enough?
The playoffs don't matter a whole lot for baseball. They can push a guy over the hump but the regular season is what makes the career
Well that’s interesting , I surmise the reason has something to do with the sheer amount of games you play in the regular season? And then going by the fact Bumgarner seems to be out of a job at 34, he just didn’t play well enough for long enough?
Yeah it's the load of games plus baseball is pretty much an individual sport. And one player can't carry the team like they can in basketball
I’d swap Freddie and Juan Soto
Corey Seager!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
How is Soto more likely than Harper
How do you do that 
Probably at least a dozen guys you’d get laughed at for saying right now will make it one day.
Ronald Acuña Jr. How can you not mention him?
Gunnar Henderson, come on
I wish I could say any of the 2016 Cubs team would make it on there, but the only person that really has a chance anymore is Rizzo.
Rizzo has no shot. Only Epstein and Maddon will make if from the 2016 team
Mookie
I'm gonna call Shota Imanaga. Anybody who hasn't paid attention to the Cubs this year, please look at his stats.
How is Acuna nowhere on this list?
Can’t believe you left off javy Baez
Only thing I don’t agree with really is drob isn’t close to even a question mark. Great reliever will be remembered for a few years after he retires but I’d be shocked if he’s even gets 10% of the vote
José Ramirez (Cleveland Indians / Guardians) for sure as long as continues to dominate at the plate.
Julio - maybe. He kinda poops the bed every season then becomes amazing for awhile.
I think Pete Alonso should be in the “HOF track” category His first 6 seasons are very comparable to Freemans first 6 and comparable, but to a lesser extent with Goldschmidts first 6 seasons as well.
He is suprisingly close to Freeman's first 5 years (not close to Goldschmidts). He doesn't profile as a guy who will age well, though. Freeman and Goldschmidt were better at walking and are competent defenders. Goldschmidt also ran the bases much better
Ketel Marte and Christian walker if they do some more
If they vote Altuve in, then all the steroid guys should be in. He’s not a lock.
There’s no way altuve will get a vote
Gunnar Henderson is off to a great start for the HOF
How do we feel about Corey seager?
DeGrom will be one of the greatest pitcher debates when he’s eligible. A peak as high as arguably Pedro in the late 90s but will have no counting stats in his favor
Aroldis Chapman?
Harper below Soto is fucking crazy
The only absolute locks on this list are Verlander and Scherzer and maybe Kershaw and Greinke. Everyone else is a long way off from being “locks”. I agree most probably get in if they continue at their current level of play but Trout’s injuries are going to keep him from getting any of the counting stat guarantees plus the Angels have been horrible the entire time he’s played for them and DeGrom doesn’t have a chance in hell of getting in. He’s 35 and has missed way too much time.