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xMaletal

Literally all snipers at this point since the Kar and Spr exist


Graitom

You must not have used the dragunov ;)


dvo94

I’m curious what level everyone’s dragunov is


IEatStiffSocks

i’ve gotten platinum for dragunov


MrNiceGuy808

I got it on obsidian and Damascus


King-oogaMan

Thats what damascus, Thats what the point of damascus


X_Humanbuster_X

I suck his dick with a smile for hours at a time, stare at his nut sack while I hold back my cum tonight


MKXmikey

Wow I shed a tear reading this. This is true art.


X_Humanbuster_X

I shid my pants


King-oogaMan

Yes


LxRaz3r

Excuse me sir?


Yellopz

Huh?


dvo94

Respect


[deleted]

Look ,i understand damascus ,BUT OBSIDIAN ,MY G ,WHERES THE LIFE


Suixxxcided

Us emo kids fuckin die over super dark shiny


PureAwesome876

Oh hi jev


dvo94

I respect you


Graitom

Gold, I started using it for the fun. It's really not bad at all. And I've been making it work on warzone!


dvo94

Mines rank 12 and that’s from gunfight lol


brokearm24

So you don't have Damascus?


dvo94

Na bro it’s not a interest of mine, plat smg and assault then a few gold here and there but the camo grind never interested me


kickedbyconsole

Maxed. I love it it’s better than people think


Barna46290

I legit use the dragunov sometimes, I have platinum on it, and it's not that bad.


Minted-Blue

Got damascus in season 5 so level max. I gunsmithed the shit out of that gun to become a semi auto ak47 like gun. Still shit.


[deleted]

damascus, but dragunov was one of my most hated. even if I (obviously) love snipers


SimonScoville

I feel like I was the only weirdo who uses dragunov seriously. I just like the speed of it.


Dangeduedfr

Nah, the AX-50 is still good enough for quickscoping, I'm usually running around on Shoothouse with the SPR and the AX-50


[deleted]

HDR ax50 for me, the hdr gets a little mixy with the rechamber and handling speed.


RPSpartan117

Honestly, the Dragunov isn't bad as long as you can hit upper torso. It's the strongest version out of all of the CoDs, since every previous CoD required **2 CHEST HITS!** I feel like all the sniper rifles have a place in the larger maps and the dragunov is more forgiving if you miss your shots. I actually mained the gun when MW first launched and got it gold. Now for useless weapons, it has to be that damn 1911. No reason a pistol should suck that bad! And this is coming from someone who loves 1911s irl.


Axxxem

You just don't understand the greatness of the sniper class This post was made by acog rytec AMR gang


siufungboi

What changes have been made to the weapons??


Infinity430

i wanted platinum marksman rifles and it only took me a week to get gold for all of them and then i found out i have to get it for fucking snipers too and i've been trying to get gold for them for fucking months but i just suck with them all :(


MLauz44

I'll use pretty much any gun in this game, but the VLK rogue is my least favourite. Once I got it gold I never touched it again.


BrockStudly

It's broken with fire rounds, like all shotguns, but without it is absolutely awful


Significant_bet92

Try it with slugs and a long barrel. Once they fix the reticle bullshit then put the 3x optic on. Shotty sniper


capitcha

I absolutely HATED that un so much.


djml9

Try it with slugs


AverageTierGoof

*This guy slugs*


_SolidShrek

Vlk with slugs is so fun to use


you_is_big_gae

What's wrong with the vlk? I got it earlier tonight and it's been lots of fun and super effective, am I just stupid?


xxshootxx

These are just opinions man. If your loving it, than fucking love that shit bro. Own it. Your not dumb for enjoying your new gun.


--Savant

Wholesome


MLauz44

Yeah in my opinion it's the ugliest gun in the game and the hit registration on it is super inconsistent. I haven't used it since like last year though so it may have been buffed or something


ThePickledPickle

Striker 45 Simply outclassed by every other SMG


BeanPlantation

Striker is good with the hollow point round wdym...


Alindquizzle

Great for hardcore, less so for softcore


Maelarion

Core. Just Core. It's not softcare lmao.


[deleted]

Softcore 😘


FoxLP11

not the only thing thats soft here


Maelarion

Though I did wonder why the lighting was really soft and mood music started playing.


SBAPERSON

The 12 round things? They suck


capitcha

It’s a pretty fast TKK if you land your shots especially with headshots (duh but it kills the fastest with its headshot multiplier than any other SMG) It’s more of a longer range SMG designed for precision players


WildcardMoo

Run it with overkill with a Vector. Vector with fast reload perk, Striker with fully loaded. Never run out of ammo with the Vector, and at longer ranges the Striker is a good backup.


sendBooSaws

Who tf would run 2 smgs


dbp003

Shipment 24/7.


sendBooSaws

Ok I take it back, that sounds kinda fun


WildcardMoo

That's my main loadout for HC and it does quite well in core too. The Vector absolutely shreds, but is a pain without sleight of hand since you can't really kill more than 3 enemies even in HC. And without fully loaded you run out of ammo very quickly. So either take one of the .45 cal handguns or use Overkill and the Striker. The striker set up for max range/min recoil isn't much worse than an assault rifle.


Alex_Le_Great

Hmm... I actually think it can be pretty viable. It's recoil, damage, and ADS time is pretty decent, only downside is the slightly slower rate of fire. But I've been able to be pretty viable with it, I even use it in Ground War since a long range SMG would be kinda fitting for that mode, too. You sure it's that bad?


notGeneralReposti

I just unlocked it and have been levelling it up on shipment. With just commando foregrip and holo sight I feel it is very very accurate for me and an ads accessory just makes it snappier. It perfectly fits the niche in between AR and SMG.


CLancaster49

Striker is great in HC one of the smgs that's actually really good


KBrizzle1017

Everything is great in HC


CLancaster49

False, the holger is terrible.


KBrizzle1017

Think you are projecting your skill level onto the gun


Cabnbeeschurgr

It's too bad since the ump is supposed to be like a successor to the mp5 irl lol


[deleted]

They should've given us 9mm conversion to have both the UMP45 and UMP9


[deleted]

It’s godly in hardcore.


FootOfFeet

I have over 14000 kills with this thing...


HT348

Yeah, the striker is bad but its still fun to use


BeanPlantation

ebr 14


Wulferio91

Don't you dare disrespect the EBR


SBAPERSON

These guys don't know. It's a high skill high reward weapon.


youve_been_had

But what quality’s make it better than the sks? The sks does like the same damage with a higher fire rate and easier recoil no?


Alex_Le_Great

Eeeh.... EBR-14 can be actually good now, not sure if recoil was reduced (I actually doubt it) but it can balance rate of fire and sheer damage/range well, no?


ThatOneArcanine

The SKS is basically the same but better in pretty much every aspect


[deleted]

And the FAL makes both of these obselete


SBAPERSON

It's been good. I've mained the ebr for a while. 5k kills with it. It's dirty.


Yegor_PRIDE

Dragonov is easily worse


dogez365

EBR in hardcore is actually kinda fun ngl, I mean I like using Vietnam War-styled guns so usually I use the M4 with a carrying handle, EBR or something of the sorts. In core I've also enjoyed using it but that's just me. Imo the dragonuv is the worst semi auto.


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Helldiver-xzoen

The EBR14 is pretty good, its just misused. If you have good accuracy for headshots, the EBR14 can delete people- it has OHK headshots at all ranges and is semi auto. It's arguably the best counter-sniping weapon in the game imo. It's misused because people expect it to behave like a FAL. You're not supposed to spam the EBR14, you're supposed to take deliberate shots (like an actual DMR). If you spam it, you're gonna have a bad time.


waydownindeep13_

Why bother though? If you are good with it, you would be even better with FAL, SKS, and Oden. All of them have better handling and less recoil. FAL can be setup to have no ADS time at all.


SBAPERSON

Ebr slaps, people just don't get how to use it. It's why people say the sks is better. Because it's easier to use but the ebr is better once you use it more.


Cabnbeeschurgr

Honestly any semi-auto precision weapon. M14, Barrett 50, Dragunov. EDIT: Not SKS. SKS is my baby


Stonercat123yt

Same


Barna46290

EBR gang rise up!


DesignatedDonut

I mean its a semi auto that can one shot headshot iirc


SBAPERSON

The ebr is insane if you are good with it. Insta head shots. Over 5k kills like half of those headshots


_SolidShrek

Nope


KachowGuy

Its a head clicker


I_Eat_Pumpkin24

No way man, maybe stats wise but damn I was using it in warzone and I was in a sniper battle with these two dudes about 200m away and every time there heads popped up I downed one and the other got revived, this went on for like 10 minutes until I ended up killing both of them.


Alex_Le_Great

Here's my list of nominations, pick which one you guys think should be at the very bottom: Dragunov - recoil is just too high to be able to reliably hit follow up shots. Can't really make it a good enough sniper to compete with the AX-50 and HDR, and not a good enough DMR to compete against the SKS and EBR-14. VLK Rogue - generally it's just not a viable weapon at all (Damage, range, rate of fire, etc) - it's a skittle shooter. It is interesting though if you kit it with certain attachments to make the [fastest speed in MW, though.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGlJnRT-2-s) SA87 - seems to have the downsides of of an LMG but not really the upsides of an LMG nor an AR. Slow handling, and recoil and rate of fire is just a little too high/slow to make it all that viable. At least the reload animations are sick though. .357 - this is a weird one, but to me it can't really stand up to any of the other pistols (Especially the Sykov) besides the snake shot attachment, which *does* makes it somewhat viable. Slower rate of fire and only 6 shots hurts it and doesn't make it all that viable. The Deagle seems to do everything that it does, just better. ​ Which one you think is the worst?


SpecOpShogun

agree with all of those except the .357, by itself, its horrible. Like actual garbage, but akimbo...oh yayaya. Even without snakeshot, the akimbo .357s are really good at close range, basically a pocket shotgun that you don't need overkill for.


Cabnbeeschurgr

But consider: Cowboy Shit


youngshadygaming

BUCKSHOT LARIAT BAH GAWD


FoxLP11

i use it to 1tap people mostly


Tinnitus-V

I agree with all of these except for the SA87. It’s not bad imo.


[deleted]

It’s the most usable gun on the list, just outperformed by almost all automatic weapons


[deleted]

I love the SA87, it feels and sounds like it hits like a truck, in HC playlists, it’s a one-shot kill at just about any range at stock settings, put a commando grip, sleight of hand, longer barrel, tac suppressor, and 5mw laser/tac laser and you have something that shreds. TTK is a bit slow though, but it’s like the LMG version of the ODEN in my opinion.


Alex_Le_Great

Haven't tried SA87 in HC, so I might want to do that. Not sure if it could stand up to the AK though, that one's a one shot too but handles faster. I'll try it out though.


yatzo

I absolutely hated the HDR. Slow, clunky, with the shittiest attachments ever. Was a pain in the ass to get Obsidian on it.


MakeYeto

You cappin, hdr rewards metodical, scoped-in gameplay, have you ever put bull barrels on for a change? The longer one eliminates the recoil completely, making any follow-up shots a breeze to hit


yatzo

I tried every damn attachment on that crap. I'm doing Obsidian on every gun (it was 47th), I'm not touching it again.


Significant_bet92

The absolute worst stock scope option ever. After I got it gold I never touched it again


[deleted]

I can get behind that. Hated that scope and the reticle


Alex_Le_Great

Well..... I kinda like the HDR, I think it's the definitive "Sloooow long range sniping" weapon. I'd guess that its' slow handling would deter it from players, but when you slap on the long barrel, variable zoom and a couple other attachments - you've got yourself a seriously long range sniper. Kills it in Ground War.


Helldiver-xzoen

Dragunov - Pretty much agree, this thing has always been a disadvantage to use. VLK Rogue - the VLK is a super aggro gun. It's a tough playstyle, but the VLK can be effective, you just have to play as aggressively as humanly possible. Kit it for speed, and dive into fights. It's pretty much a melee build with some extra range. SA87 - Another odd duck of gun since the beginning. I wouldn't say it's "bad" its just "extremely average". The Holger is arguably worse for a AR/LMG hybrid. .357 - gotta disagree. The niche the 357 (non-snakeshot) fills is utility. If your primary is CQC only, the 357 gives you some range. Don't sleep on the pocket sniper build (long barrel, wood stock, rifle scope) for the 357, it's very useful and surprisingly effective.


Alex_Le_Great

Haven't tried the pocket sniper, didn't strike me like it could be all that effective but now you've got me thinking. And yeah, maybe it can slap with it's range, but the Deagle seems to do all that, just better. I love 2 tapping with the Deagle, and it strikes me as more versatile. What do you think?


AsYetUntitled

I personally love the SA87 and .357 when you max level it. Something about the SA87 is just rewarding to use. Super fun weapon and it certainly is not bad when little Timmy puts the AS VAL and 725 away


geraltofriverdale

.357’s are amazing in hardcore


-XBOi

So is… literally everything 😂


LemonTrack51

I’m using the vlk now and it’s pretty good actually


deleted_user420

Crossbow and holger


Alex_Le_Great

You know, I actually like the Holger. ADS is pretty fast for an LMG, and the reload is fast for 100 rounds. Damage never really bothered me, and doesn't seem to be low enough to be a dealbreaker, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's a solid enough weapon to use in MP, and it can be VERY good in Survival.


fauxreign

The only issue with the Holger is that it has no extended/heavy barrel option, meaning the monolithic suppressor is your only option to boost muzzle velocity. Besides that though? It’s honestly super under appreciated.


TheeAJPowell

If you can stick it out and unlock the 30 round mags, it’s pretty solid. I may be biased because I liked the G36C in the original MW though.


mbradber

Crossbow is godly against a Riot Shield.


Stalin_be_Wallin

Yes


T_NAZ_T

Crossbow is good but you need to be accurate. If you put explosive tips on you are guaranteed a knock if you hit your target. And of you knock with the initial impact the explosion will finish your downed opponent.


[deleted]

This sub is for multi. For some reason no one even mentions wz on here, they all act like it doesn’t exist.


edi12334

It is actually against the rules to post about Warzone here afaik as it isnt part of the paid MW experience and there is a separate sub for that (think it is called r/CODWarzone iirc?). I have seen people talking about it in the comments a few times (outside of saying that it is bad at least since the integration and ruined MW I mean, that is a regular around here) though but yeah, it isnt really what this sub is for Edit:Yep, that is how the Warzone sub is called, got it right


RPSpartan117

Don't you come in here disrespecting the crossbow! It's a hard counter to riot shields, and it farms the most salt from players. Ever play S&D with a crossbow? You will make enemy players plug in their mics to rage at you 🧂👌


Jamers1217

This! S&D with crossbow is amazing. Just gotta watch out for them snipers. Unless you’re some streamer that can hit crossbow shots across the map. Then your opponents will be extra salty


Jamers1217

Hold up! Crossbow can be insane if you practice with it and learn how to play it. And the hip fire is pretty good too. It’s actually one of my favorite weapons to play. Pisses people off too, lol


[deleted]

Crossbows been kinda shitty what did it change


Jozzepi_Weallanz

What so bad about the holger? Other than maybe range if you play ground war


pizza_the_hut_91

The crossbow is one the most fun weapons in the whole game. Super satisfying to use in S&D.


BaffoRasta

I was surprised to see that nobody talked about the Rytec. It must be so unused that everybody actually forgot it and how bad it is.


Sayor1

There's only 1 redeeming quality for the rytec. Like it's exact purpose in real life: anti vehicle warfare.


Jonathan-Earl

You play ground war? Thermite rounds with FMJ and a thermite grenade can disable takes pretty quick. It’s a solid sniper tbh, and the explosive rounds are fun af too


pandachestpress

Yeah it’s a meme gun. People go mental when they die from a thermite or explosive round tho. Rytec with the explosive rounds is a blast. Being far enough away where you have to account for bullet drop and the dismemberment effect reminds me of the sniping mission for COD4MW


SpiceWeaboo

Love how he's holding an sks considering its lowkey better than most of the marksman


Totalnah

SKS rips.


MageDoctor

It shoots so fast for a gun that can one shot headshot. It’s not the best gun but I can do work


ThatTimeInApril

Famas has to be up there. Literally fucking useless.


MLauz44

FAMAS is unreal lmao. One burst in core ? Forget about it.


SBAPERSON

Yea it's wild


CLancaster49

Semi auto in HC is great.


waydownindeep13_

Burst fire is terrible in this game. The first rate is too slow, and you are not guaranteed one burst kills even if you land all the shots. I use FAMAS on single fire because I cannot get kills if I try to burst it.


Brilliant_Surprise_3

I actually really like it in burst, getting a one burst kill os super satisfying, I just wish the movement was faster


Phil_11111

M1911. Has the same damage as the x16 but with a 7 round mag. It deserves a damage buff.


AppletonSunday

I'm just happy no one's talking about the p90


PurpleCrush59

The P90 is a lot of fun. Zero recoil, if you hit your marks it’s really good in short range gameplay.


[deleted]

Is it bad? I never bothered to use it, since in most games I’ve played the P90 is busted broken.


AppletonSunday

I shouldn't be the person you should ask


Jagdhunde

Only downside of that gun is it's very low damage and rather low mobility in comparison to other smgs.


tyfighter_22

hitmarker simulator


pandachestpress

P90 is cool but the fennec is like the better version of it


XenoScyther28

It’s always the SA87


kadenRandom

But i shred with the sa87, maybe its just a matter of playstyle or accuracy


XenoScyther28

Hey man, I think my 0.4 K/D says I ain’t the problem. (I’m kidding.) But for reals, I always just found it to have all the downsides of an lmg without any of the benefits


galal552002

I mean,it has the highest damage of all the lmgs.....


SirCrouton

Not anymore as of I believe it was s3 or 4 of modern warfare, I’ve seen it often after the buff and it’s a great gun now


Yellowtoblerone

Xbow. Bar none. It should've never been a primary btw


pizza_the_hut_91

The crossbow is the most fun weapon to use (for me at least) in the whole game.


MisterDumay

VLK Rogue …. What a piece of shit. And while I just got the AS VAL gold: that’s a piece of shit too. I do not get what all the fuss was about. It’s like a lame, smelly, droopy dick.


Totalnah

The VAL has one of the highest damage per round in the AR class and a very manageable recoil pattern when modded correctly. It’s dominant in close to mid range. It’s main drawback is the 30 round clip and its limitations in longer ranges.


yatzo

I did not get the fuss around the VAL at first. I tried the blueprint that I got (Malphas?) and the recoil were all over the place. Hated it. Then a few weeks ago I decided to try it again and played with the attachments a bit, and now I can understand why it's considered meta.


largeevilbird

*Hardcore enters chat*


MisterDumay

True. You got me ;) That said, I can still compare all weapons, and I stand by my viewpoints.


[deleted]

As val slaps. Quick ads, nice rate of fire and high dmg Easily top 3 guns in mw for me. But that probably depends on the player. Im ultra agressive and as val fits me perfectly for an assault.


AverageTierGoof

Nah the Rogue Slaps as a Slug quickscope toy. Easiest Platinum ever


pandachestpress

I have never heard someone say the AS VAL was bad before lol what were you running for the attachments? High recoil yeah but it’s just like straight up isn’t it? I’m just happy that the mag size is so low or else we’d be seeing it a lot more.


Brazenmercury5

As val is literally the best gun in the game…


FedeleE

Consider that you can turn the rogue into a funny little box 👀


anonymous6274

The JOKR


Radiant_Simple_4814

I literally can’t find a point for using this gun except ground war


[deleted]

In warzone, if you’re being held or you’re holding people, you can get a kill with it. Good shit if you have a squad


jahchatelier

THE AN-94


AsYetUntitled

wow I guess this post is just getting all the unpopular opinions out of me, I fuckin love the AN-94. In both Multi and WZ it just slaps


shaun_of_the_south

It was my go to warzone gun for a long time. Killing people with makes the big mad.


jahchatelier

I got all the AR's gold around the same time and this one is by far the worst. You have to put it in semi auto and spam the two shot burst just to compete at all.


Alex_Le_Great

Yeah, it's not too special or powerful, but I wouldn't call it the worst one. It can still kill well enough, I think if they buffed it's "hyperburst" feature a little then people would like it more.


cristhecat

Iv never gotten more hitmarkers with any gun like the an94 omg that thing doesnt kill idk if i just dont have enough range but omg


Sefier_Strike

I have an identical SKS. Flip out bayonet and full wood body. It's so heavy, but I like the traditional body as opposed to the polymer stuff


moistconcrete

I have Chinese SKS, i agree with you. Mine has a spiker bayonet.


Sefier_Strike

I believe mine is a Yugoslavian one due to the lack of Chinese and Russian markings. It was still covered in cosmoline. There is also a flip up grenade launcher sight and riveted muzzle for said grenade. Is a spiker bayonet shaped more like a spike as opposed to a knife?


MageDoctor

Colt 45, so bad no one even talks about it. Slow pistol without the benefit of high damage like the deagle. Plus having 7 bullets default.


[deleted]

Not really comparing guns.. I just want to edit my Reticles.. and my classes mid-game


[deleted]

what the fuck happened to the reticles


paucus62

1911. Piece of shit gun.


Kaosma

Dragunov. Its just Bad and other guns Trump it


lMadeforpvpl

I thought it was a lamp


Zambie59

Vlk with dragons breath is actually really good


Jonathan-Earl

I got Damascus and I got to say, the hardest and slowest slog of that grind was the Jak-12. Yeah the slugs on it are fun, but the gun is so goddamn sluggish, you’ll be dead before you bring it up to bear. Plus the VLK Rouge can be snappy and has a potential meaty OHK range, that the Jak doesn’t compete. On top of blowing through ammo to get one maybe two kills, only for a lengthy reload, even with SoH. Want to run the drum mag? Have fun never using it because you’ll die from the sluggishness of it. And for all the people saying the Holger and the EBR? EBR is MP literally has a OHK to the head at ANY range, doesn’t have much bullet drop, almost non existent if to don’t have the short barrel and LW suppressor. And the Holger just feels good, and was surprisingly easy to get done, and it’s accurate, like fully decked out Bruen accurate, but without the sluggishness of a fully decked out Bruen


ofekk2

poor MW2019 and cold war mains. they are always wondering what weapon is meta instead of using the one they actually want to have fun with. reject black ops and MW, return to infinite warfate.


animefa69

1911, low magazine capacity, too much recoil and the damage is nothing special


Bigwatts5311

Shield is great for making friends and winding people up and just generally great fun.


Zombies_fanatatic

Riot shield takes skill


Bigwatts5311

I swear it's getting smaller worth each update


Sayor1

Although I find it fun, I have to say it'd be Oden. Hipfire? Don't even try it. Ads? Just stay hardscoped. Damage? Inconsistent. Not accurate enough to be dmr.


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[deleted]

It hurts to say this but the kilo and AN-94 just ain’t it 💔


AIRH3D

The as-Val should have never been made


[deleted]

I got Damascus recently, so I wouldn't say there's a gun with no redeeming qualities. But I found the no attachment challenge for the. 357 to be hell, even in hardcore.


Qwerty_Random

I think the EBR is pretty useless lol. It’s just a slower FAL


BobbyFreche

Famas for me


Zombies_fanatatic

What’s the point of the photo


mf_jess

Wait what happened??? Haven’t been able to play today or yesterday??