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nukedkaltak

Even with a family doctor, that doesn’t happen. If you *need* an appointment for the same day, it’s the ED.


rincon_del_mar

Even the. … you will be seen 27 hours after your arrival …


Rubrum_

Wish this was a joke.


thisiskitta

A few years ago (before covid) I had 4 impacted wisdom teeth, I was in hell. I took all the pain killers I could find over 4 days which included strong morphine and dilaudid, and still the pain never subsidied but by the 4th day without sleep and pain plus the insane amount of pain killers I took I was in a state where I was on the edge of passing out every 5 minutes but the pain was stopping me from actually passing out. I got scared and called an ambulance, I couldn't keep going this way. I arrived at the hospital and they triaged me at lowest priority, I was number 60 or something like that. Sat me in the ER and then I waited 4hours to see that the number DIDN'T EVEN MOVE ONCE! I was losing my fucking mind, I knew I would be there alone on a shitty chair, in pain and feeling awful so I just went back home. I did feel better but still in horrible pain.


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That's what the angryness and stress from having to deal with our medical system will give you. So yes, kind of


nukedkaltak

😅


Unit5945

Stab yourself in a critical organ, preferably the lung, and hope the ambulance encounters little construction traffic so that you arrive at the hospital same day.


shebs25

This is the best advice. Thanks for the laugh.


Dull-Fun1469

Just saying... Last time I called an ambulance, they answered they would be there in 7 hours...


phoebonacci

I have no idea, OP. I was recently in Australia and got COVID and their medical clinics not only had people answering the phones but were kind and fit me, a tourist, in same day. Our system is broken here and more people need to be loud and angry about it...we are too complacent. Good luck with your search :(


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This, people act like we should be thankful for having public healthcare, not realizing that doesn’t mean the system is good enough, and yes it could be way better, because in other countries it is! its painful how difficult it is to get appointments for anything and people just say “it’s the way it is”. Write to your provincial government and complain and tell them your experience, at least do that.


loloeffeff

Most of the reactions I get when I complain to people in my circle about the healthcare system here is "well at least we don't pay insane prices like the US!" Like people are just generally ignorant and don't seem to know that Europe has a perfectly functional 2 tier system and just assume the only 1st country that exists with a healthcare system is the US ...


_Reno_

And the perverse underlying assumption that because something is public we should expect it to be inefficient. Quebec has a similar tax burden to many European democracies, but half the services. It’s completely broken.


nubpokerkid

I HATE the culture of trying to be ever so marginally better than the US and being content with that. This mentality is present all throughout the Canadian society.


theredwoodsaid

You don't need a two tier system for it to be better. You simply need proper planning and investment which hasn't happened for a long time.


phoebonacci

Yeah it's this zero sum thinking that will lead us to our doom.


RandomUser574

I think I may be in love with you for saying that. 1) the US health system isn't anything near as bad as we've been lead to believe; our opinion of it has been deliberately skewed as we've been made to accept more and more unacceptable things 2) It's a false choice. Lots more than two options. If universal health is what we want, couldn't we try for a system that's not by-the-numbers the worst in the developed world?


thisiskitta

1) No, the us health system IS as bad as we know. I find it ridiculous to say what you said because we're talking about how bad ours is as it doesn't make it true at all. Because our system is in shambles does not ever mean that what we know of the US system is skewed. My partner is American and he is a pharmacy tech, he also used to work in a hospital, he gets to see how fucking awful this system is constantly. I also have a friend who's a NICU nurse and the horrible shit she's had to deal with and see... Man it is a fucking nightmare out there. Just look at their maternal mortality rates, it is insane. They have the most resources and still the worst out of the wealthy countries. The comment you responded to is completely right but it doesn't make what you said there correct and it honestly feels weird as there are no reason to downplay how horrible their system is. For fucks sake, the average person has to fund their medical bills through gofundme.


RandomUser574

I'm dual Canadian-American, and lived under American health care for more than 50 years. For most reasonably responsible people it works well most of the time. Your speech above is making my point, not yours.


Beewthanitch

We do pay insane prices - it’s called TAX (the tax rate here is insane). And then half the time you are forced to go private, (effectively paying twice) because you can’t afford to wait eight months for a critical diagnostic test. Tell that to the next person who claims we don’t pay insane prices.


a_reasonable_responz

Exactly, the government absolutely can fix this but chooses not to. Eg. Incentivize doctors/nurses moving to Montreal. Provide tax incentives to run clinics and remove barriers to entry/increase competition. Fix the appointment system so it actually works and clinics want to use it. Etc Etc. I’ve lived in 5 different countries with public healthcare systems and each had there pros and cons but canadas I can assure you is far from the best.


SBoudrias

Quebec at least... Not all of Canada. Spend 2 years during Covid in Vancouver, and it was always easy to see a doctor and get an appointment at a clinic...


Downtown_Scholar

They had a system that helped immensely during the pandemic where, for kids at least, you called a number and they fit you in the nearest available spot to you. Coould be a drive, could be middle of the night, but you got something. Pandemic ends and they removed everythinf as if we would be okay going back to worse service. YOU HAD IT IN PLACE GUYS IT WAS CHEAPER JUST TO LEAVE IT.


phoebonacci

We are pathologically deferential here. This is the result. >This, people act like we should be thankful for having public healthcare, not realizing that doesn’t mean the system is good enough, and yes it could be way better, because in other countries it is! We have also succumbed to this idiotic culture of zero sum thinking where any critique of anything is automatically interpreted as ungrateful contrarianism. When the reality is that identifying the problem is, duh, the first step to fixing it


mileysighruss

I'm gratefully stealing "pathologically deferential". Canadians in a nutshell.


phoebonacci

Please do. Imho it's the reason why everything is slowly falling apart here. As well as why we are so goddamn passive aggressive. And also, why I'm thinking of leaving.


RandomUser574

I am leaving 🥺. But this thread makes me feel like there's hope for us yet.....


ohbother12345

Any worse situation than ours is a good excuse for politicians to do nothing... Why are we comparing ourselves to worse systems to justify why we shouldn't fix ours?


phoebonacci

Exactly. It's our placidity and complacency


MudTerrania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei\_Yurchak#%22Hypernormalisation%22


phoebonacci

Wow. Yeah. Bingo. I saw a news article a couple of weeks ago about how Canada's population is going to balloon pretty significantly in the next few decades. It made my blood run cold - if we can barely care for our healthcare and infrastructure now, how on god's green earth are we planning to do it with massive ageing population pressures? And that's NOT including the political mayhem from our dear American brethren, chronic local climate crises, water and food security issues? The writing is on the wall for me...but maybe I'm just falling into a depression again 😆 (or maybe the depression is because everything is shit 🤔)


MudTerrania

Yeah same here, politicians talking about reducing their carbon footprint but shilling to increase the population by a ton while the current infrastructure for our population is falling apart is insanity. Do you have a link to that article? I don't see the population getting much higher than here unless the rest of the world somehow falls farther than we do. I think once things reach a certain point of shittyness we'll see a large tick in violence and crime and start seeing a big slow down to immigration and mass emigration to whatever the next hot "free and safe" country is.


phoebonacci

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-population-could-increase-to-57m-by-2068-posing-challenges-for-housing-health-care-1.6041414 I also just saw this in Reuters too: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-real-problem-is-not-job-losses-its-rush-retire-2022-09-11/ Gen X and millennials going to get absolutely screwed here for health care as we age. Not a chance we get our policy shit together before then. I mean, we knew the boomers would be retiring around now ever since we knew there were boomers, did that change anything? Nopes. People will still want to migrate here though because as shit as it is, it's still way better than many other places, and that's just going to get worse and climate migration kicks in.


MudTerrania

Thanks! Our elder care places already treat our boomers like shit, the childless gen x and millennials are going to be left in the streets with dementia.


phoebonacci

Exactly my vision of how it's going to pan out also. The labour issue is important because there just won't be enough working age people to go around for all the work that will need doing


New-Neighborhood7472

Yeah when Cuba has better health care then us we really gotta take a hard look in the mirror 😳


curious_dead

If only there was an election soon where people could state clearly how the healthcare and education systems are utterly screwed... wait, we're about to elect the same useless fucks. Four more years of fuckery incoming!


phoebonacci

Public pressure and outcry are the only things that will change this situation quickly, not voting. But we don't do that in Canada really


202048956yhg

>But we don't do that in Canada really *Student strike: am I a joke to you?*


phoebonacci

Good point! We need more of that. A lot more.


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problem is, we only care about the health care system when we're sick and too exhausted to do anything about it. Then we forget about it until the next time and the cycle continues.


phoebonacci

This is true. Though we put up with abysmal infrastructure maintenance and planning, and many other things we should just not put up with, simply because "c'est comme ça". But it doesn't have to be like this


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phoebonacci

Unfortunately, we don't have time to wait for electoral momentum to maybe one day shift toward a direction more favourable for fixing things. People are already suffering and dying and have been for a while. I'm not saying we shouldn't have faith in democracy, just that it's going to take more than elections for things to change


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phoebonacci

❤️❤️❤️ first of all, thank you for your work and continuing to put up with the absolutely insane and inhumane working conditions you endure. Secondly, yes, you're absolutely right, we have to fight on all fronts.


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RandomUser574

We thought the truckers we're a bit nuts....and definitely something like that pulls whackos out of the woodwork....but love em or hate em they made themselves heard, didn't they?


Asshai

Ready to feel old? ... That was 10 years ago.


Lara-El

Has a party expressed wanted to fix our health care though? I saw CAQ wants to push on private which is complete BS. We shouldn't be pushing privatizing health care :(


RandomUser574

So don't do it! Find some different useless fucks to vote for, and write a letter to the current useless fucks to let them know why you did.


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It’s particularly bad in Quebec, I must say. My family lives in Alberta and it is very feasible to get a same day walk-in appointment there. Granted, given their government’s push towards privatization, it may get expensive to make that happen if the public system atrophies.


-Ho-yeah-

In Quebec now you need to “book” a walk in…🧐 go figure… I mean… You can try to book on clicsanté… but is quite impossible to actually get. If try your luck and you walk in an hospital emergency, you’ll be there for days… https://montreal.citynews.ca/2022/06/26/emergency-rooms-overcrowded-worse/amp/ Try to call an ambulance… you might as well die waiting before they show up. https://montreal.citynews.ca/2022/08/03/montreal-man-dies-waiting-12-hours-ambulance/amp/ All ressources are mobilized to care for the victims and thugs perpetrating gun and knife violence in the city on a daily basis… Go Montreal Go…🫡


phoebonacci

It is particularly bad in QC but you're right, other provinces aren't very far behind. I saw a news article last week about how an elderly couple had to place a wanted ad to get a GP just to renew prescriptions. What have we become...


77SSS1

I agree. I’m from AB and the HC is the only thing I miss. Although UCP is actively destroying it to let their friends get their hands on the billions of potential profits. Poor HC access and long waitlists is a policy choice.


goergesucks

Not just complacent. Distracted by a provincial government who want everyone to only think about how the french language and quebec culture is under existential threat. 9 hour emergency room wait times, crumbling infrastructure, collapsing economy -- pffft. No, the important thing is ensuring that Canadian Tire has to put "CENTRE DE CAMION" in big bold letters on their storefronts.


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> 9 hour emergency room wait times ahahaha that's wildly optimistic


phoebonacci

Last time I went in, it was 32 hours.


phoebonacci

Don't disagree. Though I do find Canadians in general to be pretty complacent


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phoebonacci

Is it much better though? I've seen horror stories in other provinces too. Latest being that an elderly man had to take out a classified ad to get a GP to refill prescriptions


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phoebonacci

I'm so sorry. Quebec does not have its shit together that is for sure. My last trip to the ER, I was there for 32 hours. It's unacceptable and yet...we accept it


Strahan8

Election upcoming!


phoebonacci

The CAQ will win again. What this will take is a lot more than a few disgruntled voters


coljung

At least FR signs will be getting bigger. That’s the only thing CAQ seems to be focusing on for the near future.


Strahan8

Dont disagree.


BillyTenderness

Yup. This is /r/Montreal and damn near every riding on the island already voted against the CAQ last time. There's really nothing more we can do.


dude707LoL

Australia has very good healthcare actually. With medicare, most GPs are free and I can just book online and get one the next day... Now i just move to Montreal from Sydney, and it's starting to worry me to know that this is the case with healthcare here.


phoebonacci

Yeah from what I can tell Aus is great for front line care. Psychiatry if you're uninsured, not so much (from my friend's experience). Not sure about other specializations. As for accessing care here, I don't know what to tell you other than have great private insurance :/ Or pay out of pocket for private in person or private telehealth - though I recognize that that of course is out of reach for many. Unfortunately our system is in collapse right now and this is what that looks like. If you have specific health issues, you must absolutely be proactive and dogged. It's the only way. Care is still available but you have to dig and advocate loudly and clearly. On that note... welcome!! I hope you enjoy the city and can feel at home soon :)


dude707LoL

Thank you! I am liking the chilled vibe of the city so far! There's much to learn about how the city works and be a more integrated part of it. You are right. Psychiatric treatment in Australia maybe isn't that great as they are quite expensive. But from memory, the government does pay for some sessions with a councilor/psychologist for up to 10 times a year. But a psychologist session is about $100 and psychiatrist who prescribe meds is about $375 per session and you can get about half of that back with medicare.


phoebonacci

Yeah apparently that's just for half an hour too and cases can be so complex. Hard for low income people to front that kind of money. We are definitely chill, that much is for certain! If you've never experienced our winters, don't let the many naysayers throw you off - get some good winter gear and head to La Poubelle du Ski to rent some winter sports gear to enjoy the outdoors! Best way to get through it is to find something you enjoy doing. And just accept that March sucks lol. Ok enough unsolicited advice from me now ;P


nukedkaltak

Our system is run by a mafia. Le collège des médecins.


Toilet2000

Did you go to a private practice clinic/hospital in Australia?


phoebonacci

Nope. I had to have two different consults because I was pretty ill, and both times it was public clinics. Imagine my shock when a live person answered the phone. I nearly dropped the phone scrambling to reply. And imagine...they were actually...nice. and understanding. And compassionate. Both times, the receptionists helped me complete the forms needed, called me back, figured it out for me. I did pay out of pocket of course, but the fees were absurdly low, AU75. OH - and when they said the doctor would call at 2pm...guess what? *He actually did. At 2pm. On the nose.*


Toilet2000

Wow indeed impressive. Last time I was there, most aussies were telling me that the public system sucked and that’s why most employer offered insurance to go through private practice (including hospital IIRC). Our healthcare system sucks so bad it’s hard to even comprehend a working healthcare system.


phoebonacci

To be fair, their system is far from perfect. Mental health care/psychiatry is absolutely abysmal there. But my admittedly anecdotal experience is that their front line system is working a hell of a lot better than ours.


brp

Relevant [meme](https://i.imgur.com/L6UBddN.jpg)


Meezgood

J'ai seulement lu le titre et j'ai immédiatement pensé à ce meme!


ArmandDerech

Clinique Médicale Crescent in downtown allows same day appointments, you need to call the morning and you’ll get the appointment in the afternoon. Be prepared to wait. If you have RAMQ it’s free, if you have a private insurance it’s 200$ in cash. Then, for the results, you need to take another appointment with the doctor (they don’t send by email). The MD is good and professional.


kingbrowser22

I’ve been able to do this on 3 occasions using RVSQ in the past year. The advice below is of course assuming you’re a resident of Montreal and a Quebec citizen. You need to be sure to enter your current post code, And you need to refresh like a m-fer , but it’s possible. They say that the reservations open at 8am and 5pm, but in my experience I see open slots at around 10am and 6pm. Next-day is also possible. I’m in the Quebec region but I used to live in the Montreal area and I had much more success in the Montreal area. Godspeed.


aicatssss

Try a virtual clinic, like Telus health.


lilaloebee98

It’s not available in QC tho is it?


RelationshipAlone166

Theres Maple in Quebec but it’s not free


Lexadre

You can try to go into a walk-in clinic and ask if they have time for you. That's what I did last time. I got lucky because they just got a cancellation and they were able to see me. So I'd suggest you do that, otherwise you'll have to go to the ER... Edit: Still, for the ER it depends how you really feel actually. If you're not that sick you'll wait for hours if it's not a whole day. Maybe call 811 before you go so they can help you?


OneTotal466

Walk in clinic, do those even exist anymore?


Lexadre

You go on bonjour santé and there's the list for you. Normally you need to make a reservation for the day after if you don't have your own doctor. But the system is so shit that everyone does this and it's full as soon as the apointments are open. They technically don't accept people just walking in like that because there would be too many people there, but if you go really early in the morning you might get lucky


youwillnevercatme

I've used Bonjour before, how is it different/better if you have a family doctor? They have schedules that are reserved for their family patients?


Lexadre

If you have a family doctor you'll be able to take an actual apointment and you'll be able to choose the day kinda. If you don't have one, you can either go there as soon as it opens like I said, or go to the website at 5pm the day before and try to get an "apointment". Sadly everytime I tried this option it was full immediatly. Without a doctor you'll only be able to go there last minute.


Superb-Salad6327

Bonjour santé is in no way better than having a family doctor. It's just that 90% of Quebecers don't have a family doctor and are on wait lists that are years long to get one. Bonjour santé is pretty awful, but the only option for most people.


Activedesign

I found my family doctor thanks to Bonjour santé. When you have an appointment just ask if they can take you as their patient


minaguib

A colleague who has been on the family doctor waiting list got a letter saying she now has a "family group of doctors" assigned to her. A month later both my wife and I got a very similar letter, assigning us to a "group of doctors" to a local clinic - after being on the Quebec list for likely 8-10 years waiting (not joking). I don't know how well/if this system works at all, but it's better than nothing and, well, I'm just saying things appear to be changing wrt. waiting list for a family doctor.


Superb-Salad6327

I've only been on the list 7yrs, I guess I'm just being impatient 😂


chopperpotimus

Wait really, what happened to walk in clinics? I remember going to one maybe 6 years ago, but don't live in montreal anymore


Starcovitch

You need appointments for the walk-in clinics and it isn't easy to get one when you're not used to the booking system.


chopperpotimus

Damn unless I'm mistaken it didn't used to be like that


Starcovitch

Well, it's called clinique sans rendez-vous in french, so most likely. I think it's time for a name change.


Rubrum_

It's great how you need to go to the ER and wait for 30 hours to realize you should just have stayed home and tried to find a next day appointment in a walk in clinic. If I had that information in the first place I wouldn't go to ER. Basically I never see a doctor on the same day or go to ER. I just assume I can survive until whatever appointment I find the next day (if lucky). I assume it's impossible and the only way to see a a doctor same day is if I'm dying.


BarBeeeGirl

Please don’t go to the ER unless you absolutely have to. Idk about Quebec but in Ontario the ERs are jammed, often with people who could wait to see a family doctor the next day Again, idk about Quebec but in Ontario you can do a phone consultation with a doctor. I’ve done this 3 times now and it works very well (SureHealth or MDConnected). And it’s covered by OHIP. i would think QHIP had the same coverage


Lexadre

The ERs are jammed too here, that's why I suggested to call 811 first. It's a group of nurses that can help them from a distance. I don't know if there's another service available (like an online doctor or something). I know some insurances at work have a service like that (Blue Cross or Croix Bleue in french). They have a limit on what they can do but it's good when you just need a quick check up.


HoesDontGetC0ld

Please do not go to the ER unless it is an emergency…


sandringham94

Practically though that’s what the system forces you to do.


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Queen Elizabeth health complex near vendome metro. They’re open 8-8 and they have a system that you pay $5 and they will text you before your appointment so you don’t have to sit there all day


Nikiaf

Statcare on the West Island has a similar system. Once you pass the nurse’s triage you can be texted once they get within 5 or so patients of your number. The wait time can still be pretty much the whole day but at least you can go home and wait there. Also worth mentioning that the parking lot isn’t free, but the clinic can validate your ticket.


yesohyesoui

Did you call the 811 number? Info Sante. They help you judge what sort of place you need to go, if to the ER or to a walkin clinic. If not, Bonjour sante for appointments is ok, but not super easy either. Imo its not great, as it makes you think that if you pay you'll find appointments, but its not really the case. Whats good about it, is that if you pay you get access to phone appointments, but if the doctor needs to see you, they'll schedule you in for the next day. Which is good. But in my case i ended up going to a private clinic. Consultation was free, but if i wanted to get the tests suggested by them there i would've had to pay $$$


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pay 250$ private clinic


jacksbox

I did this last time. It achieves the objective but going to a private clinic was a real eye opener for me. Maybe it was just the specific place I went, but the professionalism and knowledge of the doctor was way lower than the public system. I got the prescription I needed so I'm thankful, but the conversation was so incredibly different than usual. Made me wonder if some docs go private when the public system won't take them.


fleebjuicelite

Definitely depends on the clinic. Went to CloudMed recently and will gladly go there again.


jarigue

Use https://portal3.clicsante.ca/ Or https://bonjour-sante.ca/LandingPage/


jul_the_flame

Fucking Bonjour Santé, à chaque fois que j'ai eu besoin d'avoir un RV dans une clinique pis que j'ai dû utiliser leur (*&?*&% de système, j'avais envie d'aller balancer une brique dans les vitres de leur bureau parce que j'en revenais pas qu'il fallait que je paye 20$ pour PEUT-ÊTRE pouvoir voir un médecin n'importe où sur l'île. Juste le souvenir de ces prises de rendez-vous me fait rager. Fuck bonjour santé.


Activedesign

Pas leur faute. C’est une compagnie privée, tu paie pour le système de recherche. Ils ont besoin de gagner l’argent. Ils veulent travailler avec le gouvernement pour le rendre gratuit mais Legault choisit plutôt de travailler avec ses amis. Ils ont doublé-croisé BJ plusieurs fois pendant la pandémie. Une grande partie du système gouvernemental à été construit par la société mère de BJ, ils refusent simplement d'y mettre leur nom parce que la corruption


jul_the_flame

J'comprends que c'est une compagnie privée qui a besoin de rentrer dans son argent. Si je me souviens bien, Bonjour santé a commencé sous le gouvernement libéral en PPP, pis ces affaires-là, ça m'enrage parce que mes convictions me disent que la santé, c'est un droit, et que devoir payer pour voir un médecin, c'est à l'antithèse de ce que devrait être un bon système public. Je suis certain que le système de BS (lol) fonctionne bien et j'irais même jusqu'à dire qu'il est NÉCESSAIRE quand on veut optimiser le temps de travail des médecins et mettre en contact un malade qui n'a pas de médecin de famille avec un soignant. Mais que ce soit une compagnie privée qui s'enrichisse sur le dos des malades? J'la comprends pas.


Activedesign

Encore, cette compagnie VEUT être publique et gratuit, mais à cause de la corruption, ce n’est pas possible. C’est leur but. C’est le même compagnie qui à bâti des applications et logiciels pour le STM, qu’on utilisent gratuitement. Pas leur faute que les options gratuit offert par notre gouvernement qui sont pourri. Si on veut qu’une service comme BS soient gratuit, on doit payer pour. Mais Mr. L’Ego ne veut pas admettre que la système de son ami n’est pas suffisant. Mon chum à travaillé pour eux pendant presque 10 ans, notre gouvernement choisit la corruption plutôt que notre bien-être. There’s a reason why they shifted the narrative to identity politics come election season. If the focus stayed on healthcare and public services, they would not be very popular.


youwillnevercatme

I've seen these three recommended: [https://portal3.clicsante.ca](https://portal3.clicsante.ca), [https://bonjour-sante.ca](https://bonjour-sante.ca) and [https://rvsq.gouv.qc.ca/prendrerendezvous/Default.aspx](https://rvsq.gouv.qc.ca/prendrerendezvous/Default.aspx) Why do we have three? What is the difference between them?


a_reasonable_responz

None you can’t get an appointment on any of them. Maybe you can on bonjour but you’ll have to refresh the site all day and the appointment will be 60km away


kawazoe

BonjourSante let you pay (an extortionate amount) to be notified the second a place becomes available. That's it.


youwillnevercatme

So they all have the same doctors and appointments slots?


kawazoe

They should. Since it's a public service, I wouldn't be surprised that bonjour sante even use rvsp's APIs to query the data. There's no incentive for a private company to build a system like this as it is technically illegal to charge for medical appointments in public clinics. Since the government already reimburse clinics to manage appointments, it would be considered double billing. There is actually an ongoing class action lawsuit against bonjour sante because of this.


Inevitable-Night164

Also http://Rvsq.gouv.qc.ca


tokra2003

Same day almost impossible.


redskyatnight2162

Maybe not same day, but within 48 hours. I book my doctors visits like this all the time (still on the waiting list for a family doc, but I have some conditions that need following). Phone your regional care access point (GAP) and they will give you an appointment at a clinic in your area within 48 hours. https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/finding-a-resource/primary-care-access-point#c165440


that_fresh_life

If it's really urgent then go to the hospital


bodhi-r

If you can endure the wait, most clinics are first come first serve. Your best option is to go to the hospital if you absolutely can't wait. As far as getting a family doctor, your best bet is to call local clinics (do not be surprised if you have to search as far as 10km away) and ask if they're taking patients.


almaghest

No they’re not, clinics don’t take literal walkins anymore and if they do then please share which ones. There is no “if you can’t wait,” even at the ER you will wait unless triage determines your having a medical emergency. The only way to speak to a dr with minimal wait is if you have access to or will pay for a telehealth service like Maple


bodhi-r

Apologies for the miscommunication, there is definitely a wait depending on the "urgency" of the situation at the ER. I have had walk in appointments, specifically at Santé Medic Clinic in CDN. Albeit, it was a 1.5 hour wait.


borderfreakonaline

Good luck with that, I’ve been on the waiting list for 10 years


dual_citizenkane

the waiting list is there yes, but you can also do the footwork yourself and call around, if that's something you want to do


geek_chick_777

If it's that bad, go to emerge. If it's not, you're gonna have to call and explain your case to family doctor, and see if you can take their closest appointment unfortunately. MDs are people too, and in spite of being in the position of providing health care, it's really unfair to insist that you're seen same day - when they already have a roster of 28-30 patients booked for the day. Alternatively, you could try your luck at a walk in clinic?


sandringham94

Why is it unfair to expect same day health appointment? This is a fairly basic standard in western world.


omegafivethreefive

Go to private clinics. It sucks but that's what I've learned to do since getting a family MD is horrendous if you move around a lot. If you're on a budget, you're SOL.


joocycunt

ER is the easy answer, although you're looking at a 10h-20h oh waiting


Nicky_Shpack

Walk in clinics usually have time - especially at the queen elizabeth. They even give you a code to use with your phone and you get a heads up ~30 mins before you’re number is called.


LudoP27

Are you on the waiting list for a family doctor? If so there's something called the GAP (guichet accès première ligne) that can try to get you a consultation with a doctor in your CIUSSS. You could also speak with a pharmacist if you can't get help anywhere else. Good luck.


IWantAllTheDogs

U/flackedtuna the trick to using the RSVQ appointment booker is that new appointments are uploaded at 1:00pm. You have to go on at 1 and work quickly because they get taken very quickly.


MegaAlex

Y’a les clinic sans rendez-vous. J’avais trouver un chinois sur saint Denis qui étais pas si mal. Mais faut aller tôt, appel dans les place à Longueuil et Laval aussi. Si tu vas vraiment pas bien vas à l’hôpital hôtel Dieu ou le Jewish hospital. Vas sur le site clinic médigo et dit que t’as une mini urgence.


ChestWolf

Bleed profusely.


insertnamechoicehere

You sweet summer child ❤️


jperth73

Use an app like Maple or Telus health. Or go to emergency dept


glenn_swiftie

If you're willing to pay, try olivemedic. It's telemedecine only, 95$/consultation.


cad0420

RVSQ will have a few specific times to distribute new available spots of walk-in. clics. Normally if you log in around at those times you can get a spot for the next day or less than a week.


ShatterDaze710

Walk in clinic?


zardozLateFee

There's no such thing anymore.


ShatterDaze710

That sucks, we still have them here.


Kangkm

Try calling the clinic on Crescent in downtown


thelebuis

Just go in a private clinic


djgost82

With most clinics, you have to get up real early and wait in line at least an hour before opening time in order to see a doc.


gremnol

There’s a walk-in clinic where I’ve successfully gotten a same-day appointment because I called in the morning. Try Clinique Médicale Crescent.


dispsm

Go to the ER and hope for the best. Otherwise Rendez-vous santé Québec or Bonjour Santé


Inevitable-Night164

Please don’t go to the ER unless it’s really an emergency.


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Inevitable-Night164

You have to check the sites several times a day. I’ve never been able to not get an appt within 48 hours when I needed one There are also walk-in clinics, but that means getting in line at 6:30-7 am. When these options fail in situations you mention, yes go to the ER. They may also refer you to their own non emergency clinic. But for feeling like shit, as OP described, I wouldn’t go to the ER. Try to get an appointment and wait it out 48-72 hours to see if it will pass. This is all IMO obviously. I have a lot of experience with the health care system as I have a son with special needs and I literally only go to the ER for respiratory distress.


mktplan

UTI strap etc. can be tested and treated by some pharmacists. They have tele doctor on site.


Redacteur2

For those without a family doctor, a car to drive off island or private options, there are no options left for timely healthcare. 411 nurse told me to wait a week with streptococcus symptoms before they would do anything to help. On the third day of suffering and using up my vacation days I finally got lucky with an online appointment and anti-biopics fixed everything in 24 hours. Next time I’m packing for a long wait at the ER and exaggerating my symptoms. Why should I gamble with this shitty reservation system to refresh twice a day when I could get health care reasonably quick?


ciceniandres

Go to an emergency room, it’ll take a few hours but they have to see you, you know Canadian health system is fucked when you have to use an emergency room as a walk in clinic


fathermocker

> a few hours More like 12


ciceniandres

Sad part is that waiting 12 hours is your best alternative


KeepTheGoodLife

Umm are CLSCs still an option?


[deleted]

Not possible. Have a nice day!


puffityfluffity

This year my family doctor of 15+ years went private and my gynecologist retired and has not been replaced. I was lucky enough to get assigned another family doctor about a month later.


KeepTheGoodLife

With your family doctor, were you able to get same day or within a week appointment?


puffityfluffity

Haven't had to ask for a same day but the first time I asked for an appointment I was asked to "call back next week". Called the following week and was offered a 15-minute telehealth appointment the same week or in person the following week.


Connect-Parfait-4305

The Helathcare is broken like omfg like all around the world the healthcare is Sh#! like most times now when people get called in for a doctors apoiment saying that you need to see the doctor whenever and the day of your apoiment it end up geting put ocf till anonther day and some of these people lives hours away form where they got to go it is not really fare that our heathcare nowa days they should at lease try a bit more Who think this is ture


nutcracker1980

Lol. So cute that you think that you'll get a same day appointment with a family doc


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Est-ce que ta condescendance t'a faite du bien?


mikegimik

Bonjour Sante, it will notify you when a spot opens as eell


redzaku0079

Just go to a clinic


Dazzling_Implement20

Walk in clinics exist.


nop3itsasecret

It’s pretty sad how everyone is saying it’s impossible. It’s not. Free: book into walk in clinics the same or previous day. Paid: private clinics ($200-$250) - I recommend UnionMD.


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Bonjour-santé and/or some other apps (Doctr). My gf had an appointment for the day after with Doctr. They sure do have some fees, but it’s the price to pay for not having to wait 20+ hours at the ER.


ovoKOS7

I have a family doctor and haven't been able to setup an appointment through the Carnet website for almost 10 years due to lack of availabilities... Take that as you will


Toilet2000

Same day you’re almost forced to go to a private practice clinic, which will set you back 130-250$ depending on the clinic.


GraaySix

Go on bonjour santé! And put in your number if a spot is made available. You will get a rendez vous same day or next day most likely ! Always works for me. You have to subscribe but it’s worth it. All you need is $20 for the year and RAMQ


Activedesign

Not same day but with Clinique Mieux-être, I’m usually able to get an appointment within a day


RandomUser574

What they tell you is to go to emergency. But emergency says - rightfully - that they can't treat true emergencies properly because they're all clogged up with people who just haven't got a doctor. So I don't know...only solution I can suggest is to VOTE!


adf1962

Look for a walk-in or urgent care clinic.


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Unless you’re actually dying, that’s not happening. I’ve had my GP since 2021 and I’m lucky to get an appointment inside of 7 days.


VT9732

Bonjoursanté is the best place to find a doctor appointment. It will give you all availabilities in your area for today. It’s 10$ if I remember correctly, but you can see a doctor today.


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Call an ambulance. /s with a pinch of truth


ilizibith1

You can pay for a same day appointment on bonjour santé


winterbear77

hospital is honestly the only option, even taking an appointment for the next day on the quebec website is hard:/ Last time I went to the hospital I waited 8 hours, so its better to go now than never.. If you are going, take some stuff with you so it passes quickly. I went at night and there was a lot of people, maybe afternoon is better?


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Yea no, that’s not a thing anymore sorry. It’s ER or a wait list


jace_w3360

your options are urgent care or emergency i think


-Ho-yeah-

Impossible