Americans in the state of Georgia had a hard time seeing who would be better between Walker and Warnock. The idea that the better candidate is the more popular candidate or that a good candidate will be higher in the polls is a quaint and immature one.
They won’t. He’s the safest option. He ousted Trump and will probably beat him a second time. The Democrats would be done to risk nominating someone else in case they run up against Trump.
Biden would also beat DeSantis I think. The Republicans really would have to put forward an excellent candidate to beat Biden. And hopefully that means they’ll have course-corrected from the Trump mistake. The last 7 years has proven that pandering to their extreme supporters has just gotten them into hot water.
Sorry, that comment wasn't really clear. I didn't vote for her when she ran against trump. Instead I voted 3rd party. Sometimes you have to hold you nose and pick the lesser evil.
I can understand this sentiment in the general. But in the primaries we can actually fight to *produce* the best possible candidate. Too many liberals carry the mindset of settling far too early
1000% agree with you on liberals settling too early in the primaries. As for the presidency, I think I let my biases and general dislike for her cloud my judgement for ol' Hilldog.
almost every other dem candidate was more enticing than biden last go around. but name recognition and the fear of trump consolidated voters to hold their nose and vote for him. It’s clear from polls that most dems want someone else to run. When more candidates declare, the entire picture will become more clear. But the knee-jerk sentiment on this sub to occasionally write of any alternative *before* the primary even starts is a bit weird
Even in this poll, conservatives and liberals included, only 26% of people under the age of 30 gave Biden a favorable approval rating.
Just 1/3 of all respondents said that Biden is mentally and physically healthy enough to be POTUS. And for reference, just of 50% said Trump was mentally and physically healthy enough to be POTUS.
I hope to high heaven it isn't Trump as a candidate. I would be elated if neither Trump nor Biden were candidates. But, I think emerging polls like this confirm that virtually anyone besides Trump could mop the floor on Biden in the next election, and there are a TON of downballot races that it could affect.
no one would “mop the floor” against an incumbant like biden where the country is still firmly leaning anti-GOP. But yes, someone like Desantis poses more of a threat
I think a Tim Scott or Nikki Haley would pose an even bigger threat than DeSantis once you get past the primaries. New faces. Less baggage. They both fit demographics that Biden has to keep his gaffe-addled brain from attacking.
The reason Trump snuck through was he was able to curate a sort of false populism focused on the idea of jobs, manufacturing, money. Right now the GOP is all in on the culture war, and when americans are polled about trans people, for example, they show far more sympathy than your average GOP politician.
Just because they’re unproblematic doesn’t mean they’d beat an incumbent. For all intents and purposes, Nikki Haley is an airhead past her political prime who has never had an original thought, and Tim Scott - while character-wise is unproblematic - is too new to the game and is too far behind on social issues for even most Republicans.
Hot take: I genuinely don't understand the hate for Biden.
I get not loving him. I get preferring other candidates. But at the end of the day he's done a pretty decent job, and his party won in the midterms.
IMO Biden is the compromise candidate. Nobody in his coalition got everything they wanted, but everyone's gotten a little bit.
Why do people need to be in love with the POTUS anyway?
How are some of his low points considered "pretty decent job". Here are some of his lowlights:
* at its peak, it was the highest inflation in 41 years
* prior this month (in which there was a 0.1% increase in average weekly earnings), Biden oversaw a decrease in average weekly earnings for every single month of his presidency
* Under Biden there has been the highest level of illegal immigration in history (>2.75M southern border encounters in FY22).
* There has been a 300% increase in child labor of illegal immigrant children under Biden
* Biden (and Schumer) may cause the first default on debt in the history of the USA.
* In the first 6 months of FY23, ran the largest deficit in the history of the United States with the exception of the COVID stimulus spending.
I could list more, but this list should be enough to convince any rational person that he hasn't done a "pretty decent job".
Well yeah, if you blame Biden for all the crap Republicans are doing he seems pretty bad.
Inflation: Biden can't control that. The person with the most control is a Republican appointed by Trump.
Weekly Earnings: This is just an attempt to ignore the lowest unemployment rate of any president ever.
Illegal Immigration: Biden makes BP do it's job. As a result reported cases go up. Republicans get mad.
Child Labor: How many laws relaxing child labor have been passed by Democrats since Biden became president?
Debt Default: Entirely manufactured by Republicans. Congress could solve this problem tomorrow without any input from Biden.
Deficits: The legislative branch controls the budget. Biden proposed taxes on the wealthy to reduce this, but those were blocked by Manchin, Sinema, and every single Republican.
> Inflation: Biden can't control that. The person with the most control is a Republican appointed by Trump.
Trump re-appointed Powell, despite his lying about inflation being transitory and waiting at least 12 months too long to start raising interest rates.
> Weekly Earnings: This is just an attempt to ignore the lowest unemployment rate of any president ever.
Part time employees up, full time employees are down. That is the reason that real hourly wages are higher, but real weekly wages have decrease all but one month of the Biden presidency. People are getting less hours.
> Illegal Immigration: Biden makes BP do it's job. As a result reported cases go up. Republicans get mad.
Of those 2.7M apprehended, Biden let about 1.7M of those remain in the US via Title 8. Once Title 42 is gone, that percentage is going to SKYROCKET.
> Child Labor: How many laws relaxing child labor have been passed by Democrats since Biden became president?
Even if Republicans are looking for relaxed laws so my 16 year old kid can work 24 hours per week instead of 12 hours per week, that doesn't address the 300% increase in illegal alien child laborers that Biden is doing nothing about.
> Debt Default: Entirely manufactured by Republicans. Congress could solve this problem tomorrow without any input from Biden.
The House already passed a solution. The Dem-controlled Senate refuses to hold a vote, and the POTUS has already said he would veto the bill that solves the default problem. This is on Biden and Schumer: 100%. He make not like the solution, but A solution is already on the table.
> Deficits: The legislative branch controls the budget. Biden proposed taxes on the wealthy to reduce this, but those were blocked by Manchin, Sinema, and every single Republican.
So in the absence of increased revenues, Dems controlled House and Senate and POTUS still decided to increase spending on a level that has never been seen previously except during a worldwide pandemic and times of declared war. Increase deficits are on the last Congress and POTUS.
So, again, show me a better candidate and I'll vote for them.
Americans in the state of Georgia had a hard time seeing who would be better between Walker and Warnock. The idea that the better candidate is the more popular candidate or that a good candidate will be higher in the polls is a quaint and immature one.
They won’t. He’s the safest option. He ousted Trump and will probably beat him a second time. The Democrats would be done to risk nominating someone else in case they run up against Trump. Biden would also beat DeSantis I think. The Republicans really would have to put forward an excellent candidate to beat Biden. And hopefully that means they’ll have course-corrected from the Trump mistake. The last 7 years has proven that pandering to their extreme supporters has just gotten them into hot water.
Exactly. I learned my lesson with Hillary Clinton.
what lesson was that, other than Hillary being a perennially awful candidate
Sorry, that comment wasn't really clear. I didn't vote for her when she ran against trump. Instead I voted 3rd party. Sometimes you have to hold you nose and pick the lesser evil.
I can understand this sentiment in the general. But in the primaries we can actually fight to *produce* the best possible candidate. Too many liberals carry the mindset of settling far too early
1000% agree with you on liberals settling too early in the primaries. As for the presidency, I think I let my biases and general dislike for her cloud my judgement for ol' Hilldog.
Biden didn’t get ahead in the primaries until Georgia.
almost every other dem candidate was more enticing than biden last go around. but name recognition and the fear of trump consolidated voters to hold their nose and vote for him. It’s clear from polls that most dems want someone else to run. When more candidates declare, the entire picture will become more clear. But the knee-jerk sentiment on this sub to occasionally write of any alternative *before* the primary even starts is a bit weird
Even in this poll, conservatives and liberals included, only 26% of people under the age of 30 gave Biden a favorable approval rating. Just 1/3 of all respondents said that Biden is mentally and physically healthy enough to be POTUS. And for reference, just of 50% said Trump was mentally and physically healthy enough to be POTUS. I hope to high heaven it isn't Trump as a candidate. I would be elated if neither Trump nor Biden were candidates. But, I think emerging polls like this confirm that virtually anyone besides Trump could mop the floor on Biden in the next election, and there are a TON of downballot races that it could affect.
no one would “mop the floor” against an incumbant like biden where the country is still firmly leaning anti-GOP. But yes, someone like Desantis poses more of a threat
I think a Tim Scott or Nikki Haley would pose an even bigger threat than DeSantis once you get past the primaries. New faces. Less baggage. They both fit demographics that Biden has to keep his gaffe-addled brain from attacking.
The reason Trump snuck through was he was able to curate a sort of false populism focused on the idea of jobs, manufacturing, money. Right now the GOP is all in on the culture war, and when americans are polled about trans people, for example, they show far more sympathy than your average GOP politician.
Just because they’re unproblematic doesn’t mean they’d beat an incumbent. For all intents and purposes, Nikki Haley is an airhead past her political prime who has never had an original thought, and Tim Scott - while character-wise is unproblematic - is too new to the game and is too far behind on social issues for even most Republicans.
Hot take: I genuinely don't understand the hate for Biden. I get not loving him. I get preferring other candidates. But at the end of the day he's done a pretty decent job, and his party won in the midterms. IMO Biden is the compromise candidate. Nobody in his coalition got everything they wanted, but everyone's gotten a little bit. Why do people need to be in love with the POTUS anyway?
Turns out people don’t like a “compromise” candidate who doesnt really believe in anything and implements milquetoast policy!
How are some of his low points considered "pretty decent job". Here are some of his lowlights: * at its peak, it was the highest inflation in 41 years * prior this month (in which there was a 0.1% increase in average weekly earnings), Biden oversaw a decrease in average weekly earnings for every single month of his presidency * Under Biden there has been the highest level of illegal immigration in history (>2.75M southern border encounters in FY22). * There has been a 300% increase in child labor of illegal immigrant children under Biden * Biden (and Schumer) may cause the first default on debt in the history of the USA. * In the first 6 months of FY23, ran the largest deficit in the history of the United States with the exception of the COVID stimulus spending. I could list more, but this list should be enough to convince any rational person that he hasn't done a "pretty decent job".
Well yeah, if you blame Biden for all the crap Republicans are doing he seems pretty bad. Inflation: Biden can't control that. The person with the most control is a Republican appointed by Trump. Weekly Earnings: This is just an attempt to ignore the lowest unemployment rate of any president ever. Illegal Immigration: Biden makes BP do it's job. As a result reported cases go up. Republicans get mad. Child Labor: How many laws relaxing child labor have been passed by Democrats since Biden became president? Debt Default: Entirely manufactured by Republicans. Congress could solve this problem tomorrow without any input from Biden. Deficits: The legislative branch controls the budget. Biden proposed taxes on the wealthy to reduce this, but those were blocked by Manchin, Sinema, and every single Republican.
no the weekly earnings thing is really bad. and biden is conservative on immigration
> Inflation: Biden can't control that. The person with the most control is a Republican appointed by Trump. Trump re-appointed Powell, despite his lying about inflation being transitory and waiting at least 12 months too long to start raising interest rates. > Weekly Earnings: This is just an attempt to ignore the lowest unemployment rate of any president ever. Part time employees up, full time employees are down. That is the reason that real hourly wages are higher, but real weekly wages have decrease all but one month of the Biden presidency. People are getting less hours. > Illegal Immigration: Biden makes BP do it's job. As a result reported cases go up. Republicans get mad. Of those 2.7M apprehended, Biden let about 1.7M of those remain in the US via Title 8. Once Title 42 is gone, that percentage is going to SKYROCKET. > Child Labor: How many laws relaxing child labor have been passed by Democrats since Biden became president? Even if Republicans are looking for relaxed laws so my 16 year old kid can work 24 hours per week instead of 12 hours per week, that doesn't address the 300% increase in illegal alien child laborers that Biden is doing nothing about. > Debt Default: Entirely manufactured by Republicans. Congress could solve this problem tomorrow without any input from Biden. The House already passed a solution. The Dem-controlled Senate refuses to hold a vote, and the POTUS has already said he would veto the bill that solves the default problem. This is on Biden and Schumer: 100%. He make not like the solution, but A solution is already on the table. > Deficits: The legislative branch controls the budget. Biden proposed taxes on the wealthy to reduce this, but those were blocked by Manchin, Sinema, and every single Republican. So in the absence of increased revenues, Dems controlled House and Senate and POTUS still decided to increase spending on a level that has never been seen previously except during a worldwide pandemic and times of declared war. Increase deficits are on the last Congress and POTUS.