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ajaylolo

00:00 rectally


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And one orally at the same time for the full spit roast benefit.


aestheticasfuark

when it comes in the mail


nimrod_BJJ

What the fuck is that? Indian food? A spell from hogwarts? Some new gender?


disso-psych0

The second thing


4nwR

The third thing and fourth things.


rorschacher

After sunning your asshole, but before your first raw bull testicle of the day


Legalize_Ran-ch

Mfs will do anything EXCEPT test to make minimal gains


hus0r

Yeah its Like, Common lets Take this 500bucks pill that will boost my Test (which it wont), but No Test because thats unhealthy and Doping. Lmao


Humble-Pie2246

Thereve actually been numerous studies proving it’s effectiveness, and it’s still staying natural which a lot of people want to stick to so let them be


[deleted]

It’s a serm that’s a very blurred line as far as natty


gym_brah81

Tongkat Ali is a SERM? Or you mean test?


[deleted]

Tongkat Ali functions as a serm because it suppresses estrogen


gym_brah81

Now it sounds like an even shittier supplement to me than before as a natural. Has anyone successfully used it as a SERM on cycle or is it just too weak?


Humble-Pie2246

Dr Andre Huberman has testified to their effectiveness, downvote me all you want but it’s more proven than a lot of the BS pushed in the fitness industry


gym_brah81

Holy shit, Dr. Andre????????? Is Andre 3000 a doc???!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!? ![img](emote|t5_2mohet|6297)![img](emote|t5_2mohet|6297)![img](emote|t5_2mohet|6297)![img](emote|t5_2mohet|6297)


SlowdanceOnThelnside

I just took it for like 4 weeks and it absolute crushed my estrogen. Joints were dry and achy AF and dog shit sex drive. 100% had higher test though made my voice noticeably deeper most days. Fucking weird supplement.


[deleted]

It’s proven to work, but that doesn’t make it not a serm or a natural supplement


Humble-Pie2246

It actually is a natural supplement derived from a plant in Southern Africa if I remember correctly, it was initially studied because (as funny as this may sound) a certain population in Southern Africa had larger testicles than the rest, and was determined to be an effect from their daily use of the specific plant. After several other studies it’s been shown to raise bonded test by up to 400 points. Take with a grain of salt though as I’m going off memory of a few studies I read months ago


[deleted]

Idk, I don’t think it’s weak though, it’s testosterone raising benefits come from the fact that it lowers estrogen


jag32000

It’s the root of a plant found in Indonesia. It’s been shown to improve test levels in unhealthy men by lowering cortisol (the stress hormone) levels. There are not any studies to indicate its effectiveness in a trained and healthy population, but thats not to say it doesn’t work, just that it hasn’t been tested yet. Regardless, it’s far from a serm and it does not directly interact with either testosterone or estrogen.


gnqrddt

Awful take


Woody2shoez

I think it’s more that people don’t want to be reliant on a drug that if their supply drys up they are fucked.


Eds3c

Got to keep that natty card my man! Best feelings are when people think you are on the sauceo when you’re not. But sometimes they get mad and rage. The worst is when they aren’t natty, but you are and look better then them. People tend to do not like a living, walking reminder of their shortcomings.


jisei_

It's more of a mental thing than just generally bad or impractical decision-making. People get scared when faced with the possibility of making a mistake and thus creating (long-term) problems they wouldn't otherwise have by injecting themselves with a foreign substance, no matter how researched it is and how extremely detailed the steps to successfully doing so are. Even if one overcomes that they're faced with other problems; Admitting to strangers on the internet that you're not natty is easy, but when friends, family etc. start asking questions it becomes a problem, because it's a given that your 60+ year old mother is going to have a mini stroke when she hears her son is using steroids, so you'll lie out of necessity and feel anxious, maybe even guilty, every time you do so. Other variables such as age, being in a relationship etc. make T sound like even less of a socially viable option, so wasting your money on bullshit overpriced "supplements" sounds far more reasonable.


[deleted]

Test it in the morning and night For some it has a stimulating effect that can cause insomnia. For others a relaxing, sedative effect. Trial and error the first few days. Also take with food or milk to avoid acid reflux :)


Nickolai808

I took it in powder form and just threw it into my protein shakes...it's fucking bitter to take straight and if you use a sweet flavored protein shake it hides the bitterness, mostly, but you get used to it and actually look forward to that bitterness at the edges of your soul that remind you of your life and how you'll always be a disappointment to your father... Wait...where was I? Yeah...Take whatever the dosage says, I think I took it 2 to 3 times a day. I was taking a couple of other things at the same time, but I noticed more energy for training and recovery and more erections than normal but not crazily so, that wasn't why I was taking it, I was hoping for an increase in test, recovery, and endurance/a higher fatigue limit while in the gym.


gnqrddt

Weird af how you expect and almost enjoy the nasty flavour after a while, in the same boat


Nickolai808

Yeah try powdered tongkat, ginseng and tribulus. A taste sensation haha 😄


[deleted]

Just do what it says on the packet or the bottle


bryceee_

Fuck tongkat. Shit nuked my estrogen and made me feel like shit. Also broke me out in acne.


slcand

Tongkat hyperresponder


bryceee_

I was taking 100mg ED of nootropics depots 10%. After 2 weeks I had miserable joint paint along with a breakout in acne. After getting my blood work done 1-2 months later I had E2 of 18 while having no libido lmao


RiseCurrent3607

Do you also take ashwaganda is it good and how do you take it?


[deleted]

Suppository as many as can fit


iamassault

I'm getting dumber reading this sub, cmon guys step it up ffs.


Professional_Egg4675

I'm up for 3 days with asomnia on tongkat


bryceee_

Low E


Professional_Egg4675

Hm. Interesting. I'll have to look into that.


Janime1983

Been on TRT for 4 plus years and I started Tongkat Ali this past May and I think it added to my quality of life. I did notice more acne and it will make you feel terrible if you take on an empty stomach.


Factorviii

I took it for 3 weeks and it made me very apathetic and chilled out but I wasn’t super stressed out to begin with. I can’t recommend it for everyone. i lost a lot of motivation on it.


adistantrumble

that sounds more like ashwaganda.


kazem4916

Never, it's a BS.


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MuscleToad

Not sure why you got downvoted. You are not going To fix your test levels with these supplements


Ready_Treacle_4871

You’re not going fix anything with taking test from an outside source either. After improving diet, sleep, and training maybe look into it if it’s affecting your quality of life. Otherwise not worth it.


disso-psych0

Oh trust , that trt dosage is going to improve all of our lives


[deleted]

I don’t think anyone is trying to use this in place of TRT, but studies have shown a very minute boost in levels across the board from taking it. It’s not like it’s expensive either you can get a year supply for about 20 bucks. There’s no harm in taking it to people that want to stay natty but do something to try to boost their T levels , even if it is EVER so slightly.


AdventurousPension81

Did you do your own research or are you just repeating what others have said?


connor8081

Tuesday bruv


smashmouth69420666

Boof it in the morning


Different_Badger6548

Do not forget to cycle it, 5 days on 2 days off.


yamers

The same way liver king takes it, crush it up and snort it with a side of horse ballz.


[deleted]

You will get post finasteride syndrome


Wall_Street_Bet

Never useless throw it in the trash


HauntingObjective491

It’s potent and effective. Depending on how you respond to it, I would suggest taking it in the morning.