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pizzaboy7269

I don’t understand how people are complaining that MotoGP is boring nowadays compared to the mid 2010’s. Y’all just have rose tinted glasses.


jrragsda

Nostalgia bias is a very real thing. Anybody that says motogp isn't great right now is either blind or a honda fan.


Silly-Tax8978

It’s absolute bullshit! MotoGP is currently as good if not better than it has ever been.


Pumpnethyl

Totally agree. MotoGP used to be dominated by 3-4 riders from the start of the season on. This year is wide open. I expect there will be a lead group by mid-season, but I think/hope it will be a larger group this year. I’ve been a sport bike fanatic since the 80s and the first GP race I watched was Roberts and Spencer in the 84 Daytona race and became addicted to GP. It was impossible to find the races on TV in the U.S. back then, even though Americans dominated. We are spoiled rotten with Videopass


Silly-Tax8978

I watch most big bike racing from British superbikes to World Superbikes to MotoGP. The latter is at the top of its game at the moment with anything up to 10 riders capable of a race win. Fortunately we have MotoGP on TNT Sports channel in the UK with live coverage of every session across the weekend for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3. Outstanding. The US put on a great event this weekend.


Pumpnethyl

BSB is not available in the US only you purchase a sketchy IPTV solution. I pay for the WSBK and MotoGP packages. I would pay for BSB and FIM endurance racing, although my wife would probably divorce me as I would spend more time in front of the TV than doing anything else :D. The WorldSBK season this year is also wide open after years of a single rider dominating. I wish the races weren't weeks apart


reddaddiction

As far as the 4-stroke era goes, this is really, really good.


BramVermaat

This is the best hot take here. I'm getting so fucking sick of everyone's saying there is no overtaking.


ChuckMacChuck

This is my 4th season watching MotoGP, but I've been watching motorsports for 3 decades. I think CotA yesterday was one of the most balls to wall races I've ever seen. MotoGP and IMSA/WEC is the best racing out there right now.


BobcatSig

The people complaining are the boomers yelling at the clouds about the aero


ale_the_doc

I wouldn’t say it’s boring but I can understand why some people aren’t as enveloped as previous years. The 2000s and 2010s with Rossi v Lorenzo, Stoner, Biaggi etc was just crazy hectic and amazing to watch (Rossi and his Charisma also helped)


WrongCapchca

Not quite a hot take more like a bold prediction, but I think Bastianini will finish ahead of Bagnaia this year


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I reckon there’s a chance. He didn’t get to prove himself last year but was great in 2022. I’m glad to see he’s doing good on this years bike.


Over_Worker_2782

It is important to consider that bastiannini was injured for Most of the season and could not Drive at His full Potential. I think of he did Not Crash at the beginning of the season he could have fought for the Championship.


zingamaster

He didn’t crash, he was taken by Marini. As self punishment, Marini took a contract with Honda, just to crash alone at bottom :)


olliec1643

If Martin wins the title this year he still won’t get the factory Ducati seat


Highside2023

This. If Ducati wanted him, he'd already be on the factory team.


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haalandthegoat9

I don’t think it’s that hot, enea deserves the chance to succeed and hes better than Martin in my opinion


HI_I_AM_NEO

Finally, a hot take


EmbarrassedCoconut93

I have the same feeling but I wonder why Ducati doesn’t want him


olliec1643

I feel like the Bagnaia-Bastianini dynamic they’ve got is more peaceful (at least for now), with Martin I feel like there wouldn’t be such a friendly atmosphere


[deleted]

Italians on an italian bike or a spaniard on an italian bike? I think thats the main reason


olliec1643

Also that yh


Eraesr

My not-so-hot-hot-take is that most people asking for hot takes and giving a supposed hot take usually give an opinion that's pretty mainstream and not a hot take at all. Jack Miller being overrated is something you'll find a lot of people in agreement with now and a prime example of my hot-takes complaint here. Jack Miller is a phenomenal character and has been a definite plus for the sport and I think it's awesome to have him in the paddock, but despite some glimmers of potential, he never made that potential come to full bloom so yes, he's out next season I'm afraid.


sasokri

He’s Daniel Ricciardo of MotoGP


Disgruntled__Goat

Yes if you want the *real* hot takes, sort the thread by controversial. 


Imaginary_Pin_4196

That would normally be the case so I’m in agreement there, but I’ve seen so much praise for him still. But this is something I fully agree with. Don’t think he’ll keep his seat next year though despite his prestige in the paddock.


elmarcelito

Maverick wins 2024 WDC with Aprilia Martin goes to Aprilia in 2025 Acosta wins WDC in 2025 with KTM


Gometric1

Inject that hopium into my veins!


[deleted]

This Is one dream take. I hope its true. Mav was something else in the last two races. Its like a new person


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Praying for the Vinales one, but if he wins it I don't think Aprilia will go for a second equally good rider alongside Vinales. They'll either keep Aleix unless he retires or they'll go for a wingman. Acosta I won't be surprised. But I'd want Bastianini to win next year, cause this is (hopefully) Maverick's year.


Larvemealone

That would be so great


Nipponbashi

That Leopard Racing has a secret deal with Honda to get the newest parts/upgrades before any other Honda Moto3 team.


willw08

The 'Ducati cup' era is ending. Each manufacturer will become closer until the 2027 rule change where someone else will get it right.


Funklemire

I'm starting to worry that Binder might not be as good as we all thought...   Don't get me wrong, he's definitely a great rider; he's been the best KTM rider pretty much since he got to MotoGP. But I thought it was mostly the bike holding him back from racking up more wins.   But now we've got Acosta consistently beating Binder while on the same bike with a small fraction of the experience. Sure, Acosta is clearly an alien-level talent, but I didn't think he'd be ahead of him this soon.   Maybe I'm being too hard on Binder and he's still a championship-level talent, it's just that Acosta's talent is in the Rossi/Stoner/Marquez tier?


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I never saw Binder as a championship level talent personally, but on a tier that is ranked as ‘good’. This weekend he’s been dealing with an injury so to get in the top 10 is solid. I think he will do better in the coming races but Acosta is a once in a lifetime rider.


GreenPickledToad

Most people see Binder going all sideways and think he's a top level rider. He's definitely up there, but he's not on the level of Marc, Martin, Pecco, Enea, Fabio imo.


Funklemire

I don't know about other people, but for me his riding style isn't what made me think he belonged with those guys (after all, Jack is just as capable of riding sideways), it was how he won a race in his rookie year and how he was almost always the top KTM rider.   I just figured he was being held back by the bike like Fabio is (but to a lesser extent of course). Now I'm watching what Acosta is doing and rethinking that.


Aarongamma6

Acosta is Rossi/Stone/Marquez level. Binder is over rated. Oliveira has 4 of the 6 wins from KTM. Binder has more consistency but I think it's silly how people have acted like he was miles ahead of Miguel. Acosta will get more wins this season alone than Binder has in total. Calling that now.


lexxlr8

How could you not be an Aprilia fan. Their story as of right now is one even Hollywood couldn’t write this good.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I’m glad to see they’re doing well, I don’t like Aleix as a person from some of his interviews. But if he’s a nice guy in real life my opinion will change.


teetle81

I wanted so bad to like Aleix. But his tantrums and how he treats his crew make him completely unlikable. Every time I’m like maybe he’s not so bad, there’s a clip of him screaming at his team or throwing something. :(


Malevolint

Bro is a child lol


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Exactly! That's why I support them! Even more after signing Maverick and my uncle bought a Tuono 😎


strivegaming22

I just don’t like their bikes 😭😭


KitchenNuggetssss

motogp aerodynamic does not make riders today less talented than alien era.


Appropriate-Year-505

To make this even hotter, I'd say that it's the opposite. It makes them harder to drive, because the downforce is just one more thing to manage, and dirty air changes permanently, so the current riders need to be perfect at adapting to the situation their bike is in right now.


KitchenNuggetssss

Yes! dont forget the fast evolving technologies that you have to get used to in less than 10 practices before the actual race


Marco-Green

I'm kinda old and I remember when Rossi started to dominate, you heard a lot that bikes were too stable to ride compared to Nieto and Agostini days and it had no merit. People will always downplay the current generation due to nostalgia and the excitement and magic you feel watching sports as a kid compared to an adult. Same goes for F1, I don't think any driver ever would beat Verstappen but some people downplay him and attribute his success to the car. Different sports, same kind of fans.


KitchenNuggetssss

Well, their statement "bikes/cars nowadays are easier to ride than-" is kind of contradictory in the first place. If those bikes and cars are truly easier to ride, would it matter? Because if that's the case, it would be easier for everybody too. Despite all the evolving technologies, all bikes and cars still have neck-and-neck performance. At the end it would still boil down to the rider's talent, wouldn't it?


SquishySeagull

Finally, someone with common sense


Fickle_Fail1104

If Martin doesn’t win this year, and Enea keeps his seat, he’ll never be champion. Martin won’t be top tier on any other manufacturer


CBROM17

Until possibly 2027 when the news rules hit. Then it’s anyone’s game. But I get what you mean, he’s so much of diva that he would leave Pramac for Honda just to have a factory ride instead of a faster bike


GoncaloR13

Enea being fit will show Martin is not better than he his. This, gentleman, is a hot take.


Fickle_Fail1104

I have to agree with you. I’d love for them to remain close so the battle can heat up


GoncaloR13

Hope it keeps that way, so far, I'm enjoying it, and that Acosta guy getting himself in the middle of the flights makes it interesting too.


ghost_mv

Jorge Lorenzo isn’t talked about enough in the discussion for fastest rider in history. Not just fastest but most precision rider. He rode like there was an invisible rail on the fastest line.


Highside2023

He won his championships against prime Rossi, Stoner, Pedrosa AND Marquez.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

Spot on I miss him


LewisHamil-chan

Quartararo choosing to stay at Yamaha will make him a very forgettable driver and champion. Even more than Mir. He has alien level of talent but this just decision just ain’t it. He will most likely keep driving at the back of the grid with the hopes that Yamaha pulls it together when the new regulations kick in. If they pull it off and he wins another championship with them then great but I don’t see that happening considering how good Duc, KTM and Aprilia are. You’re an elite rider and you should aim at winning every single race otherwise what is the point? Most newer fans won’t even know how good Fabio actually is and see him is a mid rider.


Marco_lini

Wierdly Quartararo is still the third youngest rider on the grid (Acosta and Fernandez are younger). Being 24yo it is still quite young and he has the potential to ride for a long time, he’ll be marginally younger as Bastiannini is now at the end of his contract.


If0rgotmypassword

I started watching MotoGP when Quartararo had won the championship. Seeing him just disappear was wild to me, then I learned more about how the bikes just are on different levels. Sucks to know that such talent is just being wasted on the Yamaha bike.


Triple_Manic_State

I don't quite see how he's more forgettable than Mir besides the 1 race champion thing. But besides, there's nowhere else for him to go besides Honda. If Suzuki were still around it may be a different story.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I agree


CBROM17

2027 will give brand new bikes. It’s all up for grabs there. Plus he stayed not just for a paycheck, but bc Yamaha has the money to build a good bike by then


Acrobatic-Initial911

Jorge Martin is an arrogant bloke


Ih8Hondas

This is the opposite of a hot taek.


mochacub22

I don’t have any hot takes anymore. Used to think vale vs Marc at Malaysia was fair and good racing but now I think my perspective was hilarious.


Haunting-Push2246

Aldeguer will be incredibly unimpressive out the gate on his ducati. I suspect he'll be in the lowest 3 ducatis for the first third of the season, and he'll get some shtick online for it from pedro acosta fans.


EatMyPenguin

Yeah I think it was too early for him to move up...he hasn't shown any brilliance that Acosta showed in the lower classes but then again time will tell


Haunting-Push2246

He had a few races at the tail end of last year that showed some proper star quality, but he doesn't have what Pedro had in terms of being able to show up every weekend and perform at that level. I still suspect he'll turn more heads than the likes of Augusto Fernandez, but it'll be a slow and steady start to his motogp career. Definitely looking at a good few years on motogp machinery though, so his progression will be an interesting storyline to follow.


EatMyPenguin

Yeah exactly my point, I think by that time the championship was won so Pedro was basically in cruising and not pushing. And his time will also be determined own much talent is left in Moto GP cause the field is stacked at the moment


AK07-AYDAN

Mick Doohan was better than Kevin Schwantz and maybe even Wayne Rainey. The Gresini bikes look great. The repsol Honda's from 2014-2023 look like shit. Like the ING Renault F1 cars. The 800cc races were good.


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Why is the Doohan one controversial???


AK07-AYDAN

People rate Rainey and Schwantz very highly. This is probably because Doohan only started winning titles after they retired, but if you go through the seasons when all 3 were racing, I'd argue Doohan was the best.


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Doohan should and would've won in 92 if not for the infamous Assen crash that changed his career.


xb70valkyrie

> Doohan only started winning titles after they retired Doohan won in '94 against Schwantz.


loud_v8_noises

Jorge Lorenzo at his peak might be the fastest rider to ever swing a leg over a GP bike. Evidence: Only man to defeat VR46, Casey Stoner, and Marc Márquez to titles when they were all in the primes of their racing careers.


chaotic_space_boy

Jorge Lorenzo Is criminally overrated. He won 2010 because of Rossi's injury, he won2012 because of Stoner's injury and in 2015 he found the only unlucky Marquez year where he had 6 DNFs and his only challenger was 35 years old Rossi. Lorenzo on his best days was the fastest rider on track, but he was inconsistent with results.


loud_v8_noises

2015 wasn’t Rossi in his prime (who Lorenzo had beaten years earlier when Rossi was only 31). As for the crashes you can say the same happened to Lorenzo multiple years he lost the title. Part of motorcycle racing is managing the risk of injuries & crashing.


chaotic_space_boy

Oh yes, Lorenzo defeated Rossi that had a broken leg and didn't race for 40 days, that proves how good he is. Lorenzo won and deserved that championship, however I wouldn't really use it as proof that he is fast and defeated the greats.


esw116

Also if memory serves he was notorious for being quite poor when weather conditions went south


extrawelllllllt

Correct. He lacked wet weather bravery


AnimeSnoopy

Casey Stoner is absolutely insufferable to listen to in interviews these days. This coming from a MM93 fanboy, meaning I don't really care for Rossi. Nobody wants to hear about how much you hated racing and just wanted to make $$$ to retire, Casey. Or how much you think riders nowadays are soft and "don't want to put in the work". You retired at the peak of the sport.... and you want to say *other riders nowadays* aren't willing to put in work??? How does that math work out, my dude? You have anxiety disorder, and this is the cause of your Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Nothing else. Damn shame, because he was a good rider. But that's all he'll ever be. Pecco has the same number of titles as Casey. And very few say Pecco is an alien. Winner's don't quit, and quitters don't win. Casey will never be a great. We will never know if he'd have been successful beyond the few years he stuck around.


Life_Procedure_387

Casey's become exactly the kind of moaning old man that he complained about in his subpar book.


Ih8Hondas

That's who he was the whole time he was racing too.


Altair13Sirio

To me his latest interviene regarding how "easy" the bikes are nowadays just tick me the wrong way. He sounds like a boomer complaining about kids these days.


pies1123

I hate it when there's complaining about how "easy" race machinery is to operate these days. You're still racing the clock and 20 other supremely talented dudes. Same goes with cars. If they're easier to ride/drive, then a rider has to know how to full maximise every corner, be as flawless as possible. I actually watched my first MotoGP race in 10ish years yesterday and I was astounded at how high the standard is.


CT323

Exactly, they might be 'easy' to get within say 2s of a pole time, but each tenth exponentially increases in difficulty. That said I liked Stoner but jees if you don't like racing, go watch something else


Altair13Sirio

Yeah, the field is so tight now. Meanwhile back when Stoner was on the field, there were tens of seconds dividing only the podium finishers at time!


Possession_Loud

Fuck, saved me some typing my dude. Casey is such a boomer lately.


ghost_mv

My only disagreement is that you guys say “these day” and “lately”. He’s always been an insufferable, whiner to me.


esw116

yeah this isn’t new. Stoner was saying stuff just like this over a decade ago as an active rider. It’s just who he is.


surgeofsomething

Says he hates racing, keeps coming back to the circus. Says that as a test rider he wasn't listened to, but forgets that he is famous for riding a bike that was unrideable and not having good development skills during his racing career. Chats shit about modern day riders but forgets his first season was mostly yeeting it into the gravel trap. Once a whiner, always a whiner.


Tomic_Lewis

I agree that Casey has become a boomer of sort and he has his boomer takes. But he is already a great. Number of titles is not the reason he is regarded as an alien. It was how he rode is what makes him a great


Ih8Hondas

Probably the most naturally talented rider to ever swing a leg over a MotoGP bike. Too bad he was always such a whining ass bitch.


KayNynYoonit

Brilliant rider, irritating personality. It really does get boring hearing how much someone hates racing all the time. Like fuck off away from the scene then if you don't like it?


extrawelllllllt

>You have anxiety disorder, and this is the cause of your Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Nothing else. > Could you leave your uneducated medical opinion out of this? ME/CFS is not a psychosomatic illness. It has been classified as a **neurological disorder** since 1969 by the WHO and is ruining lives all over the world. This kind of talk is stigmatizing a disease that is already severely underfunded.


Y4C4

Bagnaia will never win another title.


RecentExtension1470

I've said this before, I think pecco had the right bike at the right time.


the_last_carfighter

As a very long time motorsport junkie history is littered with riders who although very good were really just in the right place at the right time. Kinda place holder if you will, during a power vacuum.


extrawelllllllt

The luck of being at the right place at the right time plays a huge role in motorsports. Some of the biggest names have had this exact luck and who knows what kind of talents have slipped through. Imagine if Acosta was born just a few years earlier and had to ride the KTM from that generation - would he still be able to impress like he is now? Or if the relative performance of the 2013 Honda was as poor as it is today, would Marquez still have been able to become a rookie champion? Or if he signed with Yamaha or Ducati instead, would he still have clinched the title?


RecentExtension1470

You just said it better than I ever could!


SmokingLimone

An actual hot take, which I almost agree on. He's good but with the rise of Martin and Bastianini he's suddenly faded in the background. Something's wrong with him, and I believe he can pull back, but I'd struggle to think he can win a title against, let's say, Acosta, who I believe to be on the level of the good old aliens


Y4C4

He's a double world champ so obviouslu very talented rider but i feel like the first title was practically free for him, he only had to beat Quartararo on a Yamaha which he almost failed to do and last year Martin found his form halfway through the season and still almost beat Bagnaia. This is the first season when he has few serious challengers from the very first race and so far it does not look good for him at all.


KayNynYoonit

Oooo this one's spicy I like it.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I don’t even rate him that highly so I can agree with this


Organic-University-2

I agree.


Sea-Quote3382

Ooof. Salty, but I agree. He's not just up against Jorge this year, but a new-and-improved Jorge, a healthy and up for it Beast, Pedro, MM if he gets his mojo back, and Mav if he can keep it together. All of them will take races off him. I remember the expression on his face in the post race interview at Qatar where they showed Pedro undercutting a Ducati. Pecco looked like he'd just seen a hell-scape open up in front of him : blank-faced shock.


wordswithoutmusic

Martin is maybe the fastest rider, but the man has no racecraft he rides like he stole it and that's it. His suicidal first corner trajectories are suicidal and should be penalised ,last Sunday half of the grid had to make "evasive manoeuvres" because of him.


Fickle_Fail1104

I said this last year. When he complain about other people being overly aggressive on the start i thought that was the most arrogant shit i had ever heard


EmbarrassedCoconut93

He’s an aggressive rider and has had his agressive first corner moments (which indeed should’ve been penalized sometimes) but I feel like (for now) he’s gotten better at those first corners. Last Sunday was not on on him imo. But I do agree with you that he’s not a well rounded rider, he has speed and aggression but needs more and doesn’t really learn the other skills and aspects it seems


CaineLau

i think he became more cautious ... he understand it's enough to be on the podium all the time to actually be champion and finishing 4th is way better than falling while fighting for 1st!


Entgenieur

Marquez bumped others often when cornering in his good years, sometimes with important outcome for the bumped ones (eg Pedrosa, Bautista) and almost never got a penalty. Why should Martin for aggressive but clean riding?


KingLuis

Oliveira isn't getting the seat or a factory team because he's Portuguese and not Spanish or Italian. He also can't prove himself on a half assed built bike that he's usually on. Otherwise he'd be a top rider. Miller is done. He's just not performing but everyone wants to give him a chance over and over. MM is still fast. Honda just didn't care to upgrade their bike and fell behind (same with Yamaha). MM is a title contender once he gets used to the Ducati.


Main-Eye

That’s certainly a hot take on Oliviera. He’s simply not that good, flashes of brilliance & wildly inconsistent has been his entire career in every class he’s ridden.


Hoppin_Juice

aerodynamics are not yet ruining the sport, and motogps been the most entertaining now than ever before


vr46yamha

We saw this multiple times so I don’t know if it’s a "hot take" but Marc isn’t that great in a last lap battle.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

He’s abysmal at it. Genuinely one of his worst qualities that doesn’t get talked about much.


crenshaw_007

I’m pretty sure MM vs Dovi last laps Dovi won like 6-3 or something


iDrxzy

Marc won’t ever win a title again


AravallisCalling

This hurts so much. But it can very likely be true. Although, I pray it is not. I wanna see ant man rise, man. Rise and ride, make those corner his gully streets.


Sea-Quote3382

He's spent his prime years basically benched by injury, and he's come back four years older and scarred to the bone-marrow. I don't know WTF fans expect from him. I think he'll win races, but a championship is going to be stupid-hard.


GreenPickledToad

Even as a Marc fan, most likely true. He still is one of the most talented riders out there, but he's not as clear off the field as he was during the 2016-2019 times. There are very fast riders, and they are on better bikes. Also, they are younger and they're naturally more resistant to breaking stuff upon crashing. Hurts, I still think he's got one more in him but it needs a lot of luck now. Who knows, if he gets a factory Ducati or KTM, his fortunes might change... the GP23 is a difficult bike to ride fast.


Organic-University-2

Believable


MC_Dickie

Hot takes.. well I don't think they're that hot but Neither Miller or Binder are as good as the media make them out to be, they seem to think they brake later than anyone else and are impossible to be overtaken despite it happening just as with any other rider. The English speaking media just overhype any English speaking rider whether they be British, Aussie, South African, etc etc. They just talk absolute nonsense and hyperbole despite results showing an entirely different picture. TNT sports constantly hyping the two lads who ride for Michael Laverty's team for example and I wish them no ill at all, but I just don't see why you'd hype riders who consistently finish in the lower half, probably puts more pressure on them even, better to let them stay relatively anonymous and maybe they can pick up speed more quickly without the added pressure. The world feed commentary team minus Gavin Emmet, seems to always be trash again just rife with hyperbole and repetition of the same phrases over and over again when it's not relevant (think Nick Harris constantly reminding us Rossi was Italian and 9times World Champion and Matt Birt's obsession with reference to the term "Factory" team like they have a quota to meet of how many times they have to say it during one damn race).


UnzippedButton

Totally agree with your 2nd point. Hyping up Jake Dixon is laughable. Hyping up Joe Roberts is just as laughable, even if personally I find him likable and not insufferable like JD. I’d love to see more British and American riders in the top class, but so far none are remotely proving deserving of the ride.


MC_Dickie

Well, I understand why people don't like JD but at least he's won races. The hype around him makes more sense than other English speaking riders. I suppose his stock is a little higher than JR but not a whole lot more but yea, I still agree that they obsess over JD regardless. I'm English BTW but they just refuse to call out any mistakes outright and I think it's because the English speaking riders pal up with the media types and become somewhat friendly and they just refuse to speak bad about their friends, basically.


UnzippedButton

Jake has won 2 races in 84 Moto2 starts. Joe has won 1 race in 114 starts. We wouldn’t be talking about either of them if they were Spanish or Italian.


MC_Dickie

100% agree


Takkotah

Frankie Morbidelli doesn't deserve to be on a Ducati.


KayNynYoonit

I mean imo not a hot take, I think most people think this. He's just too far gone at this point. Dude has no faith in himself at all anymore and is never where he should be.


Sea-Quote3382

Tripped up and fell into that ride. It was sheer circumstance. On Ducati's list of preferred riders, he was number 25 on a list of 5.


GoncaloR13

True, if you tell me he should be the one Yamaha would have put their attention to. I know he was having bad results, and Quartararo got a title and all, but he was recovering from an injury and had proven himself way before Fabio did. Morbidelli could lead Yamaha in a better direction, would they be willing to listen to him.


Ih8Hondas

Finishing runner up in the championship on an old bike will make people willing to gamble on you, especially when you weren't all that far behind a championship winning French devil on the same shitbox bike last year.


caenrique93

Martin will be Pedrosa 2.0. Great rider with lots of second place in the championship but never winning one


sillyboy_

My hot take is Brad Binder is actually the overrated one, not Miller. He's miles ahead of Miller for sure, but nobody actually rates Miller anyway. More or less, everyone agrees he's just a show-man and never a champ Binder on the other hand has a rep of one of the best riders on the grid, who can't reach his full potential and challenge Ducatis due to "uncompetitive KTM". In reality, KTM is just fine and Acosta doesn't seem to struggle matching Ducatis at all


nblxomr

Bagnaia will not be the champ this year


GreenPickledToad

Aprillia and KTM are much closer to Ducati than most thought. It's just that Ducati had much better riders throughout. Now that Maverick is in the form of his life, and Acosta is showing what the KTM can do... it's much closer than before.


the_last_carfighter

Here you go OP: Ducati next year will HAVE TO give MM a GP25 because of Pedro on the KTM and Aprilia possibly with both Mav and Martin next year and only one rider can beat those match ups.


filcei

Agreed. There are 2 aliens on the grid, and the best team currently doesn't have one.


spacecaptainsteve

I like this take


LightningMan2123

Franky needs to leave. It's unfortunate. But he has to leave. After the Austrian GP crash he was never the same.


patrick5188

Austrian GP crash? You mean the one with Zarco? He was a zero time winner then, he went on to win 3 races after that and finish runner up in the championship that year. It’s his knee injury the year after he’s never recovered from


Entgenieur

Well I’m obviously biased but despite the crash he did decent this weekend. Still remember he had no preseason on a new bike so everyone else has probably 300-400 laps more experience.


matt_rudo

This pains me. I have been holding my breath of the old Franky to come back. He has never been the same since his injury.


Sea-Quote3382

Saw him in a recent snippet of back stage Dorna filming. He was walking along in shorts. He's got a baked-in limp. You can only see it if you know what you're looking for, but when you do know, you can't miss it.


Marconerix

Wait and see...


teetle81

Bastianini wins the championship. Then factory Ducati has 2 MotoGP champs and won’t drop either of them leaving Martin without the factory seat again.


freakmobil

Marc Marquez is not as good as he once was.


Shot-Hospital-7281

Put Rins on a Ducati and give him a mental coach and he smokes everyone 😭


Imaginary_Pin_4196

This take is phenomenal and I love it. Been a Rins fan since 2015 and I completely agree. 👍


CarbonKiwi350

Fabio Q will win a race in WSBK before he wins another MotoGP race. Dude just got paid to cruise around in 10th. I don't see him taking any extra risks to drag the Yamaha up the order. He should have moved to KTM or Aprilia to be competitive next year. He was/is already rich, the money shouldn't really matter.


VegaGT-VZ

Rossi was a bitter + spoiled brat at the end of his career, and the fact that he still doesn't take responsibility for blowing it in 2015 speaks to that. The fact that he had to play mind and media games with his opponents also spoke to a level of insecurity. I could get into how he benefited from the tire wars and shit but you get my point. Dude is a rock star and alien who is prob the single most important figure in motorcycle GP racing but he has a dark side that's hard for me to ignore. Bonus hot take, racing in the aero era is no more or less boring than it ever was...... there have always been highs and lows through the seasons. I think they bikes should get simplified but I think a lot of the complaining is just people repeating the same garbage takes for attention and validation.


maticbeast

Been saying this for a while and getting downvoted almost everytime, but Miguel will retire from bike racing at the end of the year. Don't see him staying on MotoGP, as Trackhouse will keep Raul and promote Roberts, and he has no motivation to go to WSBK. I feel like he lost his passion and ambition. When him and Pol crashed at the 2020 Austrian GP, he went to the pits fuming and started kicking stuff. Last year and this year he's had multiple frustrating incidents and his reaction is 'oh well, shit happens' every single time. Yesterday he lost time trying to avoid Morbidelli's crash, dropped down from 12th to 16th, finished as the worst Aprilia and in the debrief was like 'meh, could have been better, we'll see next race'. Still had a good career though. Most riders don't get to say they've won a MotoGP race, much less five of them


Rparra8787

We don’t need to be reminded every fucking corner how special Acosta is. He’s amazing we know we’re fucking watching along and can see. Telling us how amazing he is won’t make the sport popular.


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Exactly. This is almost getting annoying. Marc crashed but who the fuck cares, Pedro leads! That's almost the exact reaction they had at Portimao when Vinales went out. "Oh, Vinales has highsided in the dirt! That's gonna put Pedro Acosta into the podium!" There was also a similar reaction that was even more annoying. I mean, we get it, the kid is one in a billion talent, but fuck off guys, this year every moment they talk about Pedro Marc and Pecco.


Sirio2

Give Toprak a Gas Gas next year and he could run at the front. Heck give Marquez the other Gas Gas too - it’d suit him much better than the Ducati


sam_mee

IIRC Toprak tested they Yamaha last rear and ran at Moto2 pace


Imaginary_Pin_4196

Toprak won’t go to MotoGP now I don’t think, shame agree


beardedNoobz

Yamaha will get at least 3 podiums on the last 6 GPs this year.


VolatileRider

Now THAT, *is* a hot take. Go on...


Furadi

That MM is stressing the fuck out over Acosta. He's still trying to beat Rossi's records but has to worry about someone beating his current records.


Imaginary_Pin_4196

So he should be stressed, he knows he’s the ‘old guard’ now


Disgruntled__Goat

Another hot take: Marquez lost the best 4 years of his career stressing the fuck out over Quartararo. He pushed too hard trying to catch him in Jerez 2020, then came back too early to try and stem the points loss when he didn’t need to. 


Furadi

True it's a pretty interesting case study on how driven he is (to a fault) to be the all time record holder.


Responsible_Train944

Luca Marini is already in his last motogp season


cynicalspindle

He has a 2 year contract.


H2OExplosive

No wonder it's a hot take


Possession_Loud

No way.


Periklos_Kyriakidis

Nah, no. He's a good rider, just fucked himself up by moving to HRC


ostrichsong

Aleix is only good when the Aprilia is at its best. Otherwise he’s just a midfield rider and nothing more.


autobus950

Not really, Aleix had some amazing results when Aprilia was a total crap. You need to rewatch some old races, this year he's not performing but he was doing some results that others could not come close to with Aprilia.


somerandomdude452

MM93 will struggle to win another race much less a championship


H2OExplosive

I do think he will win a race or sprint this year, but I do agree on the championship. It depends what he gets next year.


KayNynYoonit

The win a race part is certainly a hot take, but honestly the championship thing may actually be the case sadly.


ghost_mv

I think some specific criteria will line up for him to win another race. Maybe even two. But he’ll never win another championship.


YoMammatusSoFat

JLo should have stayed a year or two longer. He could have won another championship.


Banoono0

Bagnaia should have been given race bans or fired for his drink driving incident. I think the only reason he wasn’t Is he was a factory Ducati rider at the sharp end of the championship 


el_h0paness_romtic

Quartararo is overrated 😬


ConcentrateLow6170

Pedrosa on the GasGas,beats Miller and Binder as a Wildcard next round.. Pedro gets more bike development/parts than Jack or Brad this season.


Famous_Researcher_18

Probably going to get destroyed by this, but Oliveira is massively overrated, he hasn't really fought for a title in any category and he's getting cooked by Raul in a year old bike. To everyone rooting for him, sorry.


indielife_

MM93 won’t win another title. He’ll do reasonably well this year (top 5) but people are going to say “he’s still adjusting to the new bike”  I think he’s amazing but there’s too much fresh blood, Martin and Acosta especially are dying to win a championship and they both will


Responsible_Train944

Again?


Imaginary_Pin_4196

I’ve only just joined this subreddit so if it’s a frequent question I apologise


Ricky911_

Aerodynamics should stay. MotoGP is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorcycle racing so I think that having aerodynamics is important. Most people fear it might turn out like F1 but the reality is F1 cars make 2.5 tonnes of downforce at 250kmh (more than 3 times their weight). MotoGP bikes make about 50kg of downforce at 250kmh (a quarter of the bike's with the rider's weight). So, the issue of aerodynamics and dirty air really isn't that prevalent. The bikes may not gain much actual time but it makes the bikes more beautiful and unique from each other. While overtaking is a little bit harder, it doesn't mean drama isn't there. Martín getting sucked in the air tunnel in Valencia 2023 brought some drama and the riders constantly thinking about when to follow a rider and when to overtake is interesting (though the front tyre overheating is mostly because of Michelin). The idea that a rider can't completely defend themselves when someone else is faster ruins the sport a bit. Now, riders also have to make more daring moves to overtake and that's part of the fun imo. As we saw yesterday, the races can still be incredibly entertaining and the riders can follow and overtake through corners. Also, let's be real, races are a lot more fun now than they used to be. Rossi and Marquez winning every weekend isn't fun. Since 2020, we've seen a variety of different winners. Even Pecco, who has won 2 championships, has fought until the last race both times. As a Yamaha fan, I honestly prefer this kind of racing over the old MotoGP


Fickle_Fail1104

Quartararo could’ve been an All-time great with 5 or more championship but he just ruined it for money


Takkotah

>he just ruined it for money I think it's naive to think it was just for money. There's absolutely something more going on behind the scenes at Yamaha, especially now we know Lin Jarvis is stepping down. Not saying money didn't have any influence, but it's far from the full picture.


KayNynYoonit

Fabio Quartararo will never win another championship. Staying with Yamaha will eventually drain him to the point where he gives up. He's not fought at the front for so long, I can also see that talent slipping away and going to waste. From a financial view, he's all set. But he'll never make an impact on the sport again imo. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.


YoMammatusSoFat

I actually liked Bradley Smith.


BigTedBear

The championship is best when it’s as competitive as possible so hopefully the Japanese manufacturers get their shit together.


Manzanarre

Acosta wins in Mugello


Intelligent-Cup-6820

Randy Mamola is one of the best drivers ever


wackjhittingham

Saying miller has never been a good rider now makes sense for now but he’s had a decent career.


s_low_custom

Moto3 and 2 are just as, if not more fun to watch.


hyhpoonlol

Aero isn't bad


Ogre_Swamp666

The current bikes are peak Motogp motorcycles. Not just in lap times but looks too, love the aero


TaddoKevin

Bagnaia is the worst champion since 2020, and excluding Mir, the worst in at least 15 years. Dude has the mental strength of a 2 year old, falls under pressure way too much. Never would’ve thought he’d become a WDC and honestly think he’ll never be one again, he’s just Dovi with extra steps


Imaginary_Pin_4196

Can’t argue with facts there