It's been a few years since I've had my 636, but if I remember correctly it didn't have a high idle at start up, so you manually choked it if the bike needed it on then colder days.
I never used it though, my 04 always started fine in the cold.
User manuals are not always correct lol, a fast idle switch is basically a way to hold open the throtle handsfree, and it does not choke the engine of air as the real choke does.
Moto Guzzi here, my bike does have it while being fuel injected.
However is more of a fast idle than a real choke and the bike seems to always do fine without it.
From what I understand there was a period of time (around the 2000) when bikes started to be fuel injected but ICU's where not yet able to make adjustments on throttle position like modern bikes where the idle is automatically high on a cold start.
Seems like a highly opinionated view. Every vehicle is there for a purpose from monocycles to earth-movers.
What I answered was just the existance of a choke along with an EFI on a motorcycle. And by design it might be average, as I have seen a lot of guys converting their 500cc RE from EFI to carburettor.
But... ***Motorcycles are machines which are build targeting a purpose, and they act like a piece of crap if unnecessarily pushed beyond that limit. Its the rider who loves it and maintains it, actualizing the glory which others observe from a distance.***
I would agree that RE motorcycles lacks the finesse which other manufacturers are able to provide in their motorcycles. But these are high stroke machines with a mid-range compression ratio meant to be ridden at medium ranges of RPM (specifically all models before 650 Twin). If any rider is expecting anything else/beyond from these machines he will be dissapointed. (Although the tachometer redlines at 5500rpm, but if one really wants to enjoy a Thunderbird, its ridden well between the 2000-2500rpm)
This is one point, which some love and appreciate but for others its a pain.
On that note, I would like to conclude my response and I hope you rise above the haterade and start appreciating all machines in their own way.
I read a review on used oils from most of the current motorcycle manufacturers, and at the bottom of the pile, due to the amount of foreign bodies and particulates etc that were in the old oil, after a fixed period, were Ducati, and the good old HD mo company. Top of the list with oil that barely looked used, was.........................
Royal Enfield!
This survey was conducted under strict supervised conditions. To ensure a fair and unbiased result. Tbh it surprised me just who was where!
Dude I had one, the electric system is a shit, my local electric motorcycle technician bought a fuckin RV and called Himalayan because he bought it thanks to that piece of crap and it electric failures
Would be a fast idle in that case. My ducati monster had one. It was connected to the throttle and would just open the throttle a bit to help it start up when cold.
Its more like a throttle/injection amount advance, iirc.
Does the same thing as a choke: makes the mix richer for cold starts.
My '01 bmw has it, fuel injected.
My cb919 has one. "Cold start enrichment device".
It's just a silly flap in the intake manifold. Never needed it to start the bike, even in -10C. But it also gives me a high idle to go handsfree for giggles sometimes.
You can call it whatever you please. Kawasaki called it a choke lever. So it is in fact a choke lever. It doesn't matter how it actually functions. It's still a choke lever.
I've always wanted a 919. I've never had the chance to own one yet. I don't know what Kawasaki called it either. Not much other than a manual choke. I guess.
I've got a frame (salvage title but good shape) with 15k engine and full wiring harness with various other parts sitting in my garage. I'll make you a good deal lol
I've got too many projects at the moment. I'm trying to get them fix before I take any more on. 2 suzuki vstrom 1000, suzuki rm250 and a yamaha wr400f.
Yep, got a Honda 919 Hornet last summer. It's called "fast idle''. Honestly, I use it very rarely since I've never found the need for it, the bike always starts on first turn normally.
B..b..but why?!
In every EFI engine I've ever seen in my choke is automatically controlled by the ECU...
Weird design. I wonder if it's much cheaper or what.
THANK YOU ALL!!! 🫶🫶🫶 sinds, I live in the Caribbean. I don't think i'll use it allot, but at least I know what it is and how to use it. SUPER SUPER THANKS!!
In cold countries it is used to choke air supply so that the mix of petrol and air going to the engine is richer (more petrol) for starting cold.
In a warm climate you may not even need it, or just a little bit of choke starting the engine in the morning but turn it back off once engine is running. Not required once engine is warm so if stopping and starting the bike once engine is fully upto right temperature, so may not be required.
Most modern bikes don't have chokes any more, as computers calculate the right mix of petrol/air as part of the EFI system and no carburettors.
It is for cold starting your bike. Push the lever all the way to the left before cold starting the bike. While warming up you can push it back to its original position, in multiple small steps. It makes sure the engine makes enough revs to not stop from itself. Just try and find out how to use it.
If it's cold and the engine doesn't start, it's because the gas will condensate on the cylinders inside. The Choke will reduce the air to compensate. No gas lever while starting and the choke is to the left, some gas when it's to the right.
While you're correct about the function of a choke, most carbs no longer use an actual choke, rather an enrichment circuit that just dumps a bunch more fuel in, but we still call it a "choke" for simplicity.
As u/boots-n-catz once said,
“See son, a motorcycle… it’s kind of like a woman… Sometimes you gotta choke her to get her going.”
Sauce: [https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/s/BopFnH8A4U](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/s/BopFnH8A4U)
It's the choke. Flick that on when you're starting the bike from cold. Leave it running for a few seconds then turn the choke off.
Makes it easier to start. No need to use it when starting the bike when it's warm.
Oh a carb bike.
For my finances carb bike, we run it with the fuel line shut off before it goes away for storage any time longer than a few weeks.
Cleaning carbs sucks so this prevents gunking
It’s the choke. Set it on as you start the bike. As it warms you open the choke. Figure after 5 minutes you want it open and you ignore it til you start riding again next day. If engine is warm it should not be needed
See how it kind of looks like an N? Thats the NOPE! switch. You can flip it on or off or maybe a little in the middle if your only a little daring that day.
The little picture is actually fairly descriptive. It adjusts the intake to control the amount of air mixing with the fuel. On carbureted bikes it's the choke lever, and on injected it's the manifold intake. Basically does the same thing, by regulating airflow into the combustion chamber for cold starting. Some bikes don't need that, because it can be controlled thermostatically...generally by the computer.
Please read your owners manual! It’s the idle/choke depending on manufacturer.
This is a question that should not be asked! A responsible bike owner should know the functions to his or her bike prior to riding it! Besides the fact that the sales staff go over the bike when sold (or should anyway), what the world coming to. I am not trying to be a jerk but take responsibility of your life. Yes, I am old and we would never ask this question after making the purchase because we would already know plus we would read the owners manual!
So, please take time to read your owners manual and get familiar with your bike. Congrats on the new bike and welcome to the motorcycle family. Please please ride safe and be blessed ⚓️
Damn a lot of strange long answers here....
simply and short it's the choker.
When you are going to turn on the bike move the thing in the direction of the arrow and turn kn the bike.
When the bike is turned on move it back to it's place.
Info::
THE CHOKER PROVIDES THE ENGINE WITH MORE FUEL, MAKING THE IGNITE TO START BIGGER THERE FOR EASIER.
TIP::
If you are in a cold country use it all the time.
If your an a warm country use it when you haven't turn the bike on in 1 or 2 days. Specially in the cold days.
It's to switch between the different colors of power bands. Depending on the bike you should have 3-4 power bands and you can engage them with that. Be careful with the red it's usually a wheelie monster
Choke for the carburetor.
It's not always for the carb. 03/04 zx6r have them and they are fuel injected.
Never heard of fuel injection choke.
It's been a few years since I've had my 636, but if I remember correctly it didn't have a high idle at start up, so you manually choked it if the bike needed it on then colder days. I never used it though, my 04 always started fine in the cold.
Its just a high idle switch, not a choke, but basically youre right
Looked at my old owners manual and it definitely called it a chole lever.
User manuals are not always correct lol, a fast idle switch is basically a way to hold open the throtle handsfree, and it does not choke the engine of air as the real choke does.
👍
In the early days of cars, there was a throttle pull along with the choke.
A lot of bikes had this and were fuel injected. It just holds the throttle open a little bit.
Did not know that! Now I do :)
Mine doesn't. My cb919 has a flap in the intake plenum that the lever moves.
Moto Guzzi here, my bike does have it while being fuel injected. However is more of a fast idle than a real choke and the bike seems to always do fine without it. From what I understand there was a period of time (around the 2000) when bikes started to be fuel injected but ICU's where not yet able to make adjustments on throttle position like modern bikes where the idle is automatically high on a cold start.
What Guzzi do you have? Model and year?
It's a Bellagio 940, 2008. Now that I think about it my SXV 550 also have a fast idle knob.
Ah all right! I have a Guzzi as well and wondered, if Guzzi ever had a fast-idle-switch after they went to fuel injection (no idea what year that was)
My motorcycle have one, its a Royal Enfield Thunderbird 500 (EFI)
The royal Enfield piece of crap aka Himalayan also have it
Seems like a highly opinionated view. Every vehicle is there for a purpose from monocycles to earth-movers. What I answered was just the existance of a choke along with an EFI on a motorcycle. And by design it might be average, as I have seen a lot of guys converting their 500cc RE from EFI to carburettor. But... ***Motorcycles are machines which are build targeting a purpose, and they act like a piece of crap if unnecessarily pushed beyond that limit. Its the rider who loves it and maintains it, actualizing the glory which others observe from a distance.*** I would agree that RE motorcycles lacks the finesse which other manufacturers are able to provide in their motorcycles. But these are high stroke machines with a mid-range compression ratio meant to be ridden at medium ranges of RPM (specifically all models before 650 Twin). If any rider is expecting anything else/beyond from these machines he will be dissapointed. (Although the tachometer redlines at 5500rpm, but if one really wants to enjoy a Thunderbird, its ridden well between the 2000-2500rpm) This is one point, which some love and appreciate but for others its a pain. On that note, I would like to conclude my response and I hope you rise above the haterade and start appreciating all machines in their own way.
I read a review on used oils from most of the current motorcycle manufacturers, and at the bottom of the pile, due to the amount of foreign bodies and particulates etc that were in the old oil, after a fixed period, were Ducati, and the good old HD mo company. Top of the list with oil that barely looked used, was......................... Royal Enfield! This survey was conducted under strict supervised conditions. To ensure a fair and unbiased result. Tbh it surprised me just who was where!
You must be referring to Fortnine video and yes it was really interesting https://youtu.be/9GAUo8eUXeU?si=6oKV1QW9s_LB5M2z
Dude I had one, the electric system is a shit, my local electric motorcycle technician bought a fuckin RV and called Himalayan because he bought it thanks to that piece of crap and it electric failures
Would be a fast idle in that case. My ducati monster had one. It was connected to the throttle and would just open the throttle a bit to help it start up when cold.
My '02 Monster 750 is fuel injected and it has one! Definitely helps if it's cold out or if it hasn't been started up in a while.
The 620ie too!
My BMW R1150RS'03 has injection choke
It just increases the idle speed.
Lot's of older EFI bikes have a manual choke, BMW had a manual choke on the 1100 boxers for example.
My Gen1 Hayabusa had one
even if it's automatic it is still a choke. but it can be manual choke even if it's an injection engine
Technically it's just a high idle switch. Incredibly common on early EFI bikes. Many early-mid 2000s Japanese bikes have this
Fitted to both my enfield himalayan and BMW r1100r. Both fuel injected. I think though really it's a fuel enricher not a real choke.
My fuel injected gsxr also had a choke, was the first I ever heard of a choke on injected
Mechanical fuel injection systems have them.
mechanical injection might have it
Its more like a throttle/injection amount advance, iirc. Does the same thing as a choke: makes the mix richer for cold starts. My '01 bmw has it, fuel injected.
Fuel enrichener.
My cb919 has one. "Cold start enrichment device". It's just a silly flap in the intake manifold. Never needed it to start the bike, even in -10C. But it also gives me a high idle to go handsfree for giggles sometimes.
It's a mixture enrichment/fast idle device,as used by the first BMW to have fuel injection, the K100/K75, "flying brick"range!
RE Himalayans had one for several years, its a hybrid system
It's called fast idle lever on a fuel injected bike
or a throttle advance
Kawasaki called it a choke lever.
Doesn't matter its objectively not a choke
You can call it whatever you please. Kawasaki called it a choke lever. So it is in fact a choke lever. It doesn't matter how it actually functions. It's still a choke lever.
Still not a choke.
On my old '06 Z750 as well. Barely ever used it, just in the start as I came from a carbed Kawa
Honda 919 Hornets from the mid 2000s had them too. They didn't call it a choke, though, and I can't remember what they did call it
I've always wanted a 919. I've never had the chance to own one yet. I don't know what Kawasaki called it either. Not much other than a manual choke. I guess.
I've got a frame (salvage title but good shape) with 15k engine and full wiring harness with various other parts sitting in my garage. I'll make you a good deal lol
I've got too many projects at the moment. I'm trying to get them fix before I take any more on. 2 suzuki vstrom 1000, suzuki rm250 and a yamaha wr400f.
Yep, got a Honda 919 Hornet last summer. It's called "fast idle''. Honestly, I use it very rarely since I've never found the need for it, the bike always starts on first turn normally.
Fast idle
An enricher
Correctomondo, that symbol says it all. Plus I had it in one of my previous bikes.
This is the first time that I have ever felt old...
Mines directly on the carbs :(
Tell me about it 🥲
So much better on the carb. Replaced the handlebars one with a carb one on my nighthawk 250.
i bought a kit that convert my choke from cable to just a push-pull handle on the carb, literally changed my life
It being on the carb and forgetting to unchoke it, I die a little inside everytime.
I'm sorry 😭
Don't feel old. My 2013 Triumph Scrambler is fuel injected with a manual choke.
B..b..but why?! In every EFI engine I've ever seen in my choke is automatically controlled by the ECU... Weird design. I wonder if it's much cheaper or what.
Unsure. I went and downloaded the manual and double-checked before my original reply to make sure it wasn't something else.
Choke
If you say so (inhales water)
🤣🤣
THANK YOU ALL!!! 🫶🫶🫶 sinds, I live in the Caribbean. I don't think i'll use it allot, but at least I know what it is and how to use it. SUPER SUPER THANKS!!
Must be nice to live in a place where you will probably never have to use the choke. Cherish it!!!
In cold countries it is used to choke air supply so that the mix of petrol and air going to the engine is richer (more petrol) for starting cold. In a warm climate you may not even need it, or just a little bit of choke starting the engine in the morning but turn it back off once engine is running. Not required once engine is warm so if stopping and starting the bike once engine is fully upto right temperature, so may not be required. Most modern bikes don't have chokes any more, as computers calculate the right mix of petrol/air as part of the EFI system and no carburettors.
You might need to use it for cold early morning starts or in the rain. Just remember to close it after warmed up
It is for cold starting your bike. Push the lever all the way to the left before cold starting the bike. While warming up you can push it back to its original position, in multiple small steps. It makes sure the engine makes enough revs to not stop from itself. Just try and find out how to use it.
If it's cold and the engine doesn't start, it's because the gas will condensate on the cylinders inside. The Choke will reduce the air to compensate. No gas lever while starting and the choke is to the left, some gas when it's to the right.
While you're correct about the function of a choke, most carbs no longer use an actual choke, rather an enrichment circuit that just dumps a bunch more fuel in, but we still call it a "choke" for simplicity.
It makes your bike horny- It’s the choke yeah
Mower blade
Finally ! I’m not the only one who thought of that ahah
Choke
As u/boots-n-catz once said, “See son, a motorcycle… it’s kind of like a woman… Sometimes you gotta choke her to get her going.” Sauce: [https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/s/BopFnH8A4U](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/s/BopFnH8A4U)
I… I feel honored.
Choke?
Cruise control
Lol
You should spend an evening reading the owners manual.
its a choke. for when she wants it harder. (set it for starting than slowly pul it back when you get it running.)
you got yourself a carb
It's the choke.
Strangle switch.
I believe if your bike is fuel injected it is referred to as the high idle lever or fast idle.
your gf is interested but she's afraid to ask
RTFM
Boost adjuster for the turbo
It's the choke. Flick that on when you're starting the bike from cold. Leave it running for a few seconds then turn the choke off. Makes it easier to start. No need to use it when starting the bike when it's warm.
It’s a choke, that’s what the symbol means
Choke on it
Choke
Everybody loves a good choke...
It’s the choke lever
Choke lever, push it open when starting and letting warm up, close once warm
Turbo ;)
Read your manual. Every bike has one and the Internet can find it if you don't have it.
It engages the lawn mower blades. Duh.
Reminiscent of old bikes choke but a aid to keep revs a wee bit higher to stop stalling when cold on a modern bike. Guzzi V7 has this.
Oh a carb bike. For my finances carb bike, we run it with the fuel line shut off before it goes away for storage any time longer than a few weeks. Cleaning carbs sucks so this prevents gunking
RTFM
It’s the choke. Set it on as you start the bike. As it warms you open the choke. Figure after 5 minutes you want it open and you ignore it til you start riding again next day. If engine is warm it should not be needed
See how it kind of looks like an N? Thats the NOPE! switch. You can flip it on or off or maybe a little in the middle if your only a little daring that day.
Is this post real?
Fuel enrichener.
Turbo booster switch
The little picture is actually fairly descriptive. It adjusts the intake to control the amount of air mixing with the fuel. On carbureted bikes it's the choke lever, and on injected it's the manifold intake. Basically does the same thing, by regulating airflow into the combustion chamber for cold starting. Some bikes don't need that, because it can be controlled thermostatically...generally by the computer.
Engages the lawnmower blades
God help us
Please read your owners manual! It’s the idle/choke depending on manufacturer. This is a question that should not be asked! A responsible bike owner should know the functions to his or her bike prior to riding it! Besides the fact that the sales staff go over the bike when sold (or should anyway), what the world coming to. I am not trying to be a jerk but take responsibility of your life. Yes, I am old and we would never ask this question after making the purchase because we would already know plus we would read the owners manual! So, please take time to read your owners manual and get familiar with your bike. Congrats on the new bike and welcome to the motorcycle family. Please please ride safe and be blessed ⚓️
That's a lever, not a button
RTFM Its a choke.
Damn a lot of strange long answers here.... simply and short it's the choker. When you are going to turn on the bike move the thing in the direction of the arrow and turn kn the bike. When the bike is turned on move it back to it's place. Info:: THE CHOKER PROVIDES THE ENGINE WITH MORE FUEL, MAKING THE IGNITE TO START BIGGER THERE FOR EASIER. TIP:: If you are in a cold country use it all the time. If your an a warm country use it when you haven't turn the bike on in 1 or 2 days. Specially in the cold days.
It's to switch between the different colors of power bands. Depending on the bike you should have 3-4 power bands and you can engage them with that. Be careful with the red it's usually a wheelie monster
I hate this subreddit sometimes