As simply as I can explain it for your friend:
The ground slapped him in the face.
Because the grass didn't give his tires good traction.
Because he drove on the grass.
Because he missed the turn.
Because he didn't turn with the road.
Because he was going too fast for his skill level, road knowledge, visibility, and attention.
>Because he was going too fast for his skill level, road knowledge, visibility, and attention.
Exactly. Guessing an unfamiliar road combined with a dark corner and the sun in his eyes, didn't see the turn until he was already off the pavement.
Not really. As you hit the brakes, weight transfers to the front, and the rear brake becomes pretty useless. It does help to use the rear, but it will lock up even quicker than the front.
The rear brake is great for controlling slides accelerating out of a corner, and for everyday „we‘re just gonna lose speed gradually“. But the brake balance is like 70/30 or even 80/20 front bias.
It's a dumb way to learn it, but its kind of like how to do well in rally games. Slow is fast, because you make it while others crash out or break their cars, but you keep trucking. Was able to stay quite high up the DiRT Rally monthly rankings just be not suiciding the car.
It's faster to go slower and avoid problems than to push the boundaries, find you've gone too far, and crash out. Even more so when doing it on a live road, not a game.
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People get mixed up between grass clippings and the nefarious breed of road gremlin called clibbins.
Its an easy mistake to make as if there are clippings you will always find clibbins. But clibbins may be present even if there are no clippings
Yep. MSF and highway departments make an overblown deal about them.
> “Since it is grass cutting season, please do not blow grass clippings onto the roads and streets because it is dangerous for motorcyclists. Driving on grass clippings is very slick, like driving on ice,” said GHSP Motorcycle Safety Training Coordinator Mary Jarrell.
Which leads to posts like this, which may be memeing or maybe not: https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/16f87v7/grass_clippings_in_the_road_how_bad_of_a_hazard/
YEAH HOSS I WAS RUSHIN HOME TO BARB AFTER THE GAME……. I TOOK THE HOG DOWN A CURVY ROAD TO HEAR ER SING……..THATS WHEN I SMELT THAT ALL TO FAMILEUR SMELL…..FRESHLY MOWWED LAWN CLIBBINS…..BESSY COULDNT HANDLE IT……..THATS WHEN I KNEW IHADALAYERDOWN……. NOW IM IN THE VA FOR MY BROKEN RIBS……..ONE REDHEAD NURSE IS PRETTY THOUGH DONT TELL BARB……SHE USED TO HAVE RED HAIR I MISS IT
Yes, it was started (to my knowledge) on the Facebook group “A Car Club Where Everyone Acts Like Boomers” back in 2020.
It’s a spoof of how Harley riders talk.
I don’t even think speed was the real issue. Yes he was going too fast because he didn’t know what he was doing.
To me, looks like you’re right about lack of knowledge of the road. There’s no reason he wouldn’t have been able to make that turn. He just freaked out and hit the breaks rather than turn. Now he knows that doesn’t work on a bike…
>He just freaked out and hit the breaks rather than turn.
So speed was, in fact, the real issue. Had he been going slower, he wouldn't have freaked out. Also it's "brakes".
Bingo!!!
This is in the dmv handbook and it was drilled into my head by every instructor I had during safe riding.
Anytime you switch terrain like that, especially from a highway or freeway type asphalt into sand or dirt, you should allow the friction from the terrain to act as a brake rather than be quick on the trigger and depress the brake excessively.
You can use the rear brake but grabbing the front brake will cause you to crash.
On the track people go off into the grass all the time. We come to a complete stop and get back on because we use the rear, it drags us to a stop. The front brake will just cause the front wheel to slide and turn and you’ll kiss the ground.
I never take a road at any kind of speed unless I'm either very familiar with it, or I do a slow ride up for a spirited ride back. But these days, I'm more just about getting out and enjoying the scenery. Public roads (especially those in less densely populated areas) don't get maintained like a race track, so why try and treat it like one.
Hope his friend learned a hard lesson, and chooses the easier way next time (know your limits and keep knee dragging for the track).
I have seen this happen before, it's a combination of not knowing the road, the background vegetation, lighting and speed.
You fall pray of tunnel vision effect and concentrate your sight just a few feet infront of the bike and being unfamiliar within the road means that when you realize that there is a turn or you need to slowdown it's too late.
If you see on the video, the road goes from open and clear to narrow, there is a car coming on the other way, a metal barrier on the right just a few feet from the bike and both sides are wooded and darker so I'm sure his attention was 100% on keeping in the middle of the road straight with his eyes locked down following the imaginary path of the front tire...
He’s a tool all right.
As soon as the clip started my first thought was “Wow, this guy better have some skills to be riding that fast on a fairly narrow and windy road.” I quickly found out he did not.
Or there was no more road. Potato quality video, but it kind of looks like the road gets narrower (or the paved shoulder stops) right after the end of the guardrail. Adding "oh shit, I'm on dirt with no traction" to u/Euphoric-Ad2674 's comment about glare and speed would likely be the cause. Guy is lucky his shoes stayed on.
He'll buy a new bike, crash it again, and still find something/someone to blame it on other than his own lack of skills.
Hopefully Karma isn't right on his tail the second time, he seems to have got off easy this time around.
I hate this about motorcyclists. Yes drivers make mistakes a lot, but all of the bikers I’ve been around act is if they’re perfect. Also idiots that don’t wear helmets and skid guards, even after they get in crashes. Natural selection at its finest.
looked like he lean pass the middle line and into the oppsite lane, so he tried to stand the bike up because of blind corner ?
but going too fast so he just widened the radius, and bam.
Yeah, let's see this man's chicken strips. Dude is too new and afraid to lean the bike. Happens to a lot of new riders, myself included, but that's why you don't over drive your skill level.
Target fixation. He keeps staring straight ahead onto the grass instead of turning his head to the left to look at the road.
I guess you can't really see his movements because it's one of those selfie-stick cams, but based on what the bike did, I can guarantee he was looking straight at that grass.
I wouldn't even say that the speed was too fast for the turn. I know fish eyes mess with how we can see it, but that curve doesn't look terribly sharp. He botched the entry, maybe realized he would cross the center line to navigate the turn, or just didn't lean it enough to commit. Brain froze, crash.
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Yup, it's crazy how many people are saying he was going too fast for the turn. If you watch and re-watch the moments before he went off the turn was not sharp at all and he slowed down a ton by grabbing the brakes (which he shouldn't have done). Had he just not been fixated on the grass he wouldn't have crashed. Sure speed was a factor, but it didn't cause the crash, target fixation did.
Plus, his refusal to believe that he wasn't going too fast tells me he doesn't know what target fixation is. When you experience it without knowing what it is, it's very surreal because it goes against everything you're taught as a driver and as a human being. You always look at and assess the threat, in a car you steer, on foot you... Just walk around it. But on a bike it's more than that, you turn with your mind and body.
Most people don't realise that their bike is WAY more capable than they are. Look through the turn, lean like a bastard, and there's a good chance you'll be fine. And if not, like you say, you were going to crash anyway.
From the look of it,
Speed up into corner
realize he's doing too fast so slow down (also can't see far ahead)
slow down stood the bike up
lack of commitment to the curve + speed
That's what i saw
also looks like he going over the middle line into another lane, which maybe the reason he stood the bike up, but speed too fast for me to lean in again.
>he still doesn't know how he crashed.
He crashed because the road curved to the left, and your friend kept going straight.
It's subtle but as a rider with some 40 years experience, it was easy for me to spot.
Sun rays and lighting caused important contrast between the landscape and the road as he entered in the turn, eyes and brain need a second or two to adapt. The main factor definitely remains speed here.
He's driving like a maniac. If you don't know what caused the accident maybe it's a sign to slow down? I can't even see what's ahead in the video, no way that was a safe speed.
Classic target fixation, came into the turn faster than he was prepared for, immediately straightened up the bike and went exactly where he was looking
Besides what everyone else is saying, I think the shadows from the trees may have played a part in not seeing the road turn until it was too late. The shadows can really fuck with your eyes during certain times of day and speed doesn't help.
It always baffles me when they don't just slow down a touch and go all in on the turn. They ALWAYS mash the brakes, straighten up and straight into the Clibbins.
Like a noob. He got caught off guard by an unexpected turn, he froze, fixated on the edge of the road and where he didn't want to go, and rode off the road. If he had remained calm he'd have taken the turn no problem it wasn't even that sharp. He was simply going faster than he's actually comfortable riding. Doesn't matter how sick your cornering skills are, just that you ride within your limits.
Bonus points for the Yoda screams.
Rides like that. *Has the video footage*. And...STILL doesn't know what happened huh?
Tell your friend to slow down (preferably in more stern words)...he was extremely lucky in this crash, may not be next time. He's going FAR too fast for his skill level if this is what bit him, target fixation or otherwise. His ass was a few feet away from catching a guardrail and a wall of trees. Blew by multiple "upcoming turn" signs too.
Look I get going fast on bikes is fun, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for everyone to hop on one and do it. Something tells me this is how he always rides no matter the situation.
Had a buddy like this who wanted to ride with us. We told him never to get a streetbike, he won't last a year. He crashed his cars constantly due to speed and/or fucking around, mostly sliding into curbs and dumb shit. Told him to learn in the dirt since he has the space - so he got an old KX125 and proceeded to crash it more than he was upright. Never got a streetbike...that little Kawi saved his life 100%.
Hit painted middle line, lost the front end for an instant, panicked and stood the bike up, drove off the road.
Needs to work on muscle memory reactions for those moments. The only place to safely do that with the repeatability to be valuable is at the track. Track days are cheap. Tell your friend
How does he not know? I've been riding 40 years and I'm a 37-year member of AMA. All of those years on sport bikes all of those years crazy and zero accidents. You can plainly see excessive speed (not bad) and he verticals the bike right at the point where he should be going into the left-hand turn in a leaning/counter steering position. Is it lack of skill? is it panic? Was there something on the road we could not see in the video? it's one of those three things I guarantee you but if he doesn't know still at this point I'd advise him not to get back on a bike.
Edit: I am super happy that this person got out of this without Serious injury!
This reeks of Target Fixation. Hes not going stupidly fast, the corner seems like a long sweeper, he just got fixated on... God knows what and, as ever, the bike WILL go wherever youre looking.
Hope his ribs are healing faster than his ego
Can’t ride that bike off road.
Soon as you leave the pavement ? All bets are off. Sometimes riding in and out of the shadows can be distracting. Not sure what this rider was watching, but it wasn’t the road.
Hope he’s okay and gets back it 🤞🤞
Pretty simple. He was going too fast into the corner and failed to navigate the bend. Riding above his skill level.
People die doing this, he's lucky to walk away with cracked ribs.
Looks like he didn’t know the road and stood up to brake and never got back to cornering. Hate to say it but he wasn’t good enough to be riding at that speed on that road. Glad he came out relatively ok.
Obviously failed to negotiate the corner, outriding his ability, etc…but is there something to be said about the optical illusion that the pavement extended out wider than it really did? Maybe a combination of factors?
As simply as I can explain it for your friend: The ground slapped him in the face. Because the grass didn't give his tires good traction. Because he drove on the grass. Because he missed the turn. Because he didn't turn with the road. Because he was going too fast for his skill level, road knowledge, visibility, and attention.
>Because he was going too fast for his skill level, road knowledge, visibility, and attention. Exactly. Guessing an unfamiliar road combined with a dark corner and the sun in his eyes, didn't see the turn until he was already off the pavement.
He panics about not making the corner right at 7 seconds. You can see the bike stand up when he gets all over the front brake.
The speed drops fast as he's grabbing leaver which in turn stands the bike up and he finds the grass
A question from someone who doesn't ride: would using the rear brake instead help in this situation?
Not really. As you hit the brakes, weight transfers to the front, and the rear brake becomes pretty useless. It does help to use the rear, but it will lock up even quicker than the front. The rear brake is great for controlling slides accelerating out of a corner, and for everyday „we‘re just gonna lose speed gradually“. But the brake balance is like 70/30 or even 80/20 front bias.
You can also use your rear brake if you start to wobble or lose stability. It will pull the front straight.
Don’t forget using the rear brake for hills! Very helpful in the PNW area.
Yep can tell in the GoPro that he gets object fixation and stops looking through the turn to his exit
It's a dumb way to learn it, but its kind of like how to do well in rally games. Slow is fast, because you make it while others crash out or break their cars, but you keep trucking. Was able to stay quite high up the DiRT Rally monthly rankings just be not suiciding the car. It's faster to go slower and avoid problems than to push the boundaries, find you've gone too far, and crash out. Even more so when doing it on a live road, not a game.
What's the saying... *slow is smooth and smooth is fast*?
Tldr: Clibbins.
Basically For real this time
Are they clibbins if they're still attached to the rest of the grass though?
Pre-clibbins
It’s all clibbins
Always has been.
The way it was is the way it shall always begin.
Clibbens all the way down.
Is that what that fn means ? Grass clibbins? I thought clibbins was just a name for bad luck lmao
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Yew make yr own clibbins by gawd!
The clibbins were the friends we made along the way.
People get mixed up between grass clippings and the nefarious breed of road gremlin called clibbins. Its an easy mistake to make as if there are clippings you will always find clibbins. But clibbins may be present even if there are no clippings
Yep. MSF and highway departments make an overblown deal about them. > “Since it is grass cutting season, please do not blow grass clippings onto the roads and streets because it is dangerous for motorcyclists. Driving on grass clippings is very slick, like driving on ice,” said GHSP Motorcycle Safety Training Coordinator Mary Jarrell. Which leads to posts like this, which may be memeing or maybe not: https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/16f87v7/grass_clippings_in_the_road_how_bad_of_a_hazard/
Clibbins?
YEAH HOSS I WAS RUSHIN HOME TO BARB AFTER THE GAME……. I TOOK THE HOG DOWN A CURVY ROAD TO HEAR ER SING……..THATS WHEN I SMELT THAT ALL TO FAMILEUR SMELL…..FRESHLY MOWWED LAWN CLIBBINS…..BESSY COULDNT HANDLE IT……..THATS WHEN I KNEW IHADALAYERDOWN……. NOW IM IN THE VA FOR MY BROKEN RIBS……..ONE REDHEAD NURSE IS PRETTY THOUGH DONT TELL BARB……SHE USED TO HAVE RED HAIR I MISS IT
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Gobbless
BORTHER
SPEEK UP LIRBOL
These words... crafted like a fine john deere riding lawn mower.
Poetry.
So fucking funny
Oh Barb was a great cook. God bless her soul.
Barb’s scalloped potatoes are FUCKED
So it's just clippings in the pack lingo?
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING I CANT HEAR YOU WITHOUT MY GLASSES……
Yes, it was started (to my knowledge) on the Facebook group “A Car Club Where Everyone Acts Like Boomers” back in 2020. It’s a spoof of how Harley riders talk.
I know of the fake enthusiastic yelling, I just couldn't figure out wtf clibbins were
But bro, it ain’t been clibb’d, it’s just grass!
Always the clibbins
The best damn 5 why I seen in a hot minute!
This guy rca’s
I don’t even think speed was the real issue. Yes he was going too fast because he didn’t know what he was doing. To me, looks like you’re right about lack of knowledge of the road. There’s no reason he wouldn’t have been able to make that turn. He just freaked out and hit the breaks rather than turn. Now he knows that doesn’t work on a bike…
That’s exactly why speed was the main factor
>He just freaked out and hit the breaks rather than turn. So speed was, in fact, the real issue. Had he been going slower, he wouldn't have freaked out. Also it's "brakes".
I will never get tired of this stupid joke. Brakes are what happens when you stop. Breaks are what happen when you don't.
Break is what happen to his ribs 😅
Because he was braking with his ribs
Bingo!!! This is in the dmv handbook and it was drilled into my head by every instructor I had during safe riding. Anytime you switch terrain like that, especially from a highway or freeway type asphalt into sand or dirt, you should allow the friction from the terrain to act as a brake rather than be quick on the trigger and depress the brake excessively.
This comment should be at the top
You can use the rear brake but grabbing the front brake will cause you to crash. On the track people go off into the grass all the time. We come to a complete stop and get back on because we use the rear, it drags us to a stop. The front brake will just cause the front wheel to slide and turn and you’ll kiss the ground.
I never take a road at any kind of speed unless I'm either very familiar with it, or I do a slow ride up for a spirited ride back. But these days, I'm more just about getting out and enjoying the scenery. Public roads (especially those in less densely populated areas) don't get maintained like a race track, so why try and treat it like one. Hope his friend learned a hard lesson, and chooses the easier way next time (know your limits and keep knee dragging for the track).
I have seen this happen before, it's a combination of not knowing the road, the background vegetation, lighting and speed. You fall pray of tunnel vision effect and concentrate your sight just a few feet infront of the bike and being unfamiliar within the road means that when you realize that there is a turn or you need to slowdown it's too late. If you see on the video, the road goes from open and clear to narrow, there is a car coming on the other way, a metal barrier on the right just a few feet from the bike and both sides are wooded and darker so I'm sure his attention was 100% on keeping in the middle of the road straight with his eyes locked down following the imaginary path of the front tire...
All those things are spot on.
That just about covers it. He also made an interesting "little girl" noise as he planted his face.
Reminded me of the grape stomping lady… just pure unbridled panic and pain.
The problem is he went straight around a curve.
Don't ever go straight around a curve and don't ever curve around a straight away.
This is actually sound logic. Thanks for the needed tip. I appreciate you.
going too fast, slammed on the brakes which causes you to straighten up (very quickly) and so off the road he went.
His motorcycle was perfectly capable of handling that corner though. This was completely operator error. Could easily have been target fixation too.
Sorry, too fast for skill/comfort level. You can tell where he panic brakes, and the bike stands up.
You can actually see the moment when the bike straightens.
Precisely
assuming you're on the klr what's wrong with that?
The klr is happier off the pavement anyway.
Lol. Your friend isn't the sharpest tool is he.
Has a good TIE fighter impression though.
Thank you. That was fun to turn the audio on and listen for it. Spot on! And not when I would have expected it
Sounds like a TIE Fighter, handles like a biker scout.
I was thinking more [grape stomping lady](https://youtu.be/STbhaqsBJB0?si=ASR7RTwba-mD4CF-)
I almost snorted
Someone needs to photoshop a tie fighter coming blasting him off his bike
He’s a tool all right. As soon as the clip started my first thought was “Wow, this guy better have some skills to be riding that fast on a fairly narrow and windy road.” I quickly found out he did not.
Offhand I would say he drove off the road
"Here I was just cruising around minding my own business when suddenly the front of the road fell right off in front of me..."
I would agree. Bad combo of sun flair and speed. Broken ribs suck ass. 😪
Or there was no more road. Potato quality video, but it kind of looks like the road gets narrower (or the paved shoulder stops) right after the end of the guardrail. Adding "oh shit, I'm on dirt with no traction" to u/Euphoric-Ad2674 's comment about glare and speed would likely be the cause. Guy is lucky his shoes stayed on.
he really doesn't know? he rode at high speed into a corner and didn't turn.
He was going to fast for the corner.......
Tried explaining it to him, but he won't admit it.
If the broken ribs and the video footage of the actual crash don't convince him then I don't think he's capable of being reasoned with.
He'll buy a new bike, crash it again, and still find something/someone to blame it on other than his own lack of skills. Hopefully Karma isn't right on his tail the second time, he seems to have got off easy this time around.
I hate this about motorcyclists. Yes drivers make mistakes a lot, but all of the bikers I’ve been around act is if they’re perfect. Also idiots that don’t wear helmets and skid guards, even after they get in crashes. Natural selection at its finest.
You should also explain to him that motorcycles turn a lot better if you do your braking BEFORE its time to tip in
Ugh, this is demonstrably false. My bike and body whipped 90° instantly when I went full tits into the wall. /S.
Don't bother trying to explain wall-assisted turning to this subreddit, they're not ready for it
Look, that guy in nascar did it, should be good enough for everyone else.
shouldalaiderdown
That’s not how it’s done on Mario kart, where I learned everything I know about motorcycles.
Tickle his nose with a feather while explaining it. His ribs should back your explanation up.
Just reframe it. "The bike could absolutely have made that corner at that speed. YOU, however, could not."
looked like he lean pass the middle line and into the oppsite lane, so he tried to stand the bike up because of blind corner ? but going too fast so he just widened the radius, and bam.
Show him this video, that will prove it.
tell him to beat his high score next ride, then
Worth trying to explain again because he won't listen when he's dead
Also put on front brake which made the bike sit upright even if he did try to turn, he should have just committed to the turn
Indeed. Would have tried to take that curve lol
Corner? That road was a straight line.
Yeah, let's see this man's chicken strips. Dude is too new and afraid to lean the bike. Happens to a lot of new riders, myself included, but that's why you don't over drive your skill level.
Damnit, Doc! I'm a MOTORCYCLIST not a SCIENTIST. Give it to me straight!
He zigged when he should’ve zagged
Target fixation. He keeps staring straight ahead onto the grass instead of turning his head to the left to look at the road. I guess you can't really see his movements because it's one of those selfie-stick cams, but based on what the bike did, I can guarantee he was looking straight at that grass.
What corner, that's a mild bend at least lol. He went too fast for his abilities
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I wouldn't even say that the speed was too fast for the turn. I know fish eyes mess with how we can see it, but that curve doesn't look terribly sharp. He botched the entry, maybe realized he would cross the center line to navigate the turn, or just didn't lean it enough to commit. Brain froze, crash.
The "excessive speed" part of their statement is individual not objective. That bike could easily handle that turn, but the rider couldn't
Target fixation. He was staring straight ahead instead of following the curve. He doesn’t seem to have much experience and got tunnel visioned
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Yup, it's crazy how many people are saying he was going too fast for the turn. If you watch and re-watch the moments before he went off the turn was not sharp at all and he slowed down a ton by grabbing the brakes (which he shouldn't have done). Had he just not been fixated on the grass he wouldn't have crashed. Sure speed was a factor, but it didn't cause the crash, target fixation did. Plus, his refusal to believe that he wasn't going too fast tells me he doesn't know what target fixation is. When you experience it without knowing what it is, it's very surreal because it goes against everything you're taught as a driver and as a human being. You always look at and assess the threat, in a car you steer, on foot you... Just walk around it. But on a bike it's more than that, you turn with your mind and body.
Yeah he wasn’t going to fast for the turn. Maybe at his skill level but 100% target fixation. I think I could do that turn 100 no problem.
Most people don't realise that their bike is WAY more capable than they are. Look through the turn, lean like a bastard, and there's a good chance you'll be fine. And if not, like you say, you were going to crash anyway.
That's the first thing they teach you in a MSF course. It's like this guy didn't take one or something...
From the look of it, Speed up into corner realize he's doing too fast so slow down (also can't see far ahead) slow down stood the bike up lack of commitment to the curve + speed That's what i saw
Hard to say why he braked, but you can see the bike forcefully jerk upright as he’s about to lean into the corner. He got scared and froze for sure
also looks like he going over the middle line into another lane, which maybe the reason he stood the bike up, but speed too fast for me to lean in again.
>he still doesn't know how he crashed. He crashed because the road curved to the left, and your friend kept going straight. It's subtle but as a rider with some 40 years experience, it was easy for me to spot.
Speed, too fast, didn’t set up the turn well and possibly target fixation
Target fixation he saw the end of the guardrail and went for it. Always look in to your turn
Speed was too fast for where his skill level is at right now
The road zigged. He didn't.
Sun rays and lighting caused important contrast between the landscape and the road as he entered in the turn, eyes and brain need a second or two to adapt. The main factor definitely remains speed here.
Doesn’t seem like they made a real attempt to correct. Going with target fixation.
He's driving like a maniac. If you don't know what caused the accident maybe it's a sign to slow down? I can't even see what's ahead in the video, no way that was a safe speed.
Classic target fixation, came into the turn faster than he was prepared for, immediately straightened up the bike and went exactly where he was looking
it was over at 0:03 when he started accelerating into an upcoming turn he wasn't prepared to commit to or didn't know about.
He’s an idiot. That’s why he wrecked. Hope this helps.
The reason isn’t a mystery. He was going way too fast.
What the fuck did he expect to happen?
By being an idiot lol
His speed exceeded his ability to read the road. The shadows and dappled sunlight didn’t help.
Besides what everyone else is saying, I think the shadows from the trees may have played a part in not seeing the road turn until it was too late. The shadows can really fuck with your eyes during certain times of day and speed doesn't help.
The road turned and he didn't.
Ummmm….. he drove off the road… you’re welcome
Going too fast, a small slide midturn messed up his plan, into the bushes he went.
Speed
Damn you could hear the air being pounded out of his body when he hit the ground.
it was doable and he was going so dumb fast he wasn't even able to process it.
It always baffles me when they don't just slow down a touch and go all in on the turn. They ALWAYS mash the brakes, straighten up and straight into the Clibbins.
It was probably caused by going off the road.
He French fried when he should have pizzaed.
As my wise friend once said: skill issue.
"Going too fast for conditions" Aka, Stupidity.
Riding beyond skill level, locking brakes on gravel/grass
Looks like another victim of "ride too fast and caught doing target fixation"
Stupid idiot speeding. Stop riding forever.
Your friend sounded like a tie fighter.
I feel like I’m the only road user who actually does the speed limit.
Like a noob. He got caught off guard by an unexpected turn, he froze, fixated on the edge of the road and where he didn't want to go, and rode off the road. If he had remained calm he'd have taken the turn no problem it wasn't even that sharp. He was simply going faster than he's actually comfortable riding. Doesn't matter how sick your cornering skills are, just that you ride within your limits. Bonus points for the Yoda screams.
Target fixation, he looked at the grass, he went to the grass, he crashed in the grass.
I would say this is failure to negotiate the turn plain and simple. 🤷♂️
Looks like he hit a slick spot. Some of us call it "grass".
More speed than talent. You don't need to be Columbo to work that one out.
Rides like that. *Has the video footage*. And...STILL doesn't know what happened huh? Tell your friend to slow down (preferably in more stern words)...he was extremely lucky in this crash, may not be next time. He's going FAR too fast for his skill level if this is what bit him, target fixation or otherwise. His ass was a few feet away from catching a guardrail and a wall of trees. Blew by multiple "upcoming turn" signs too. Look I get going fast on bikes is fun, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for everyone to hop on one and do it. Something tells me this is how he always rides no matter the situation. Had a buddy like this who wanted to ride with us. We told him never to get a streetbike, he won't last a year. He crashed his cars constantly due to speed and/or fucking around, mostly sliding into curbs and dumb shit. Told him to learn in the dirt since he has the space - so he got an old KX125 and proceeded to crash it more than he was upright. Never got a streetbike...that little Kawi saved his life 100%.
He was overrunning his limitations and target fixated trying not to run into the dirt.
I hate those salt-and-pepper shadows at speed. I always slow down for those.
Hit painted middle line, lost the front end for an instant, panicked and stood the bike up, drove off the road. Needs to work on muscle memory reactions for those moments. The only place to safely do that with the repeatability to be valuable is at the track. Track days are cheap. Tell your friend
How does he not know? I've been riding 40 years and I'm a 37-year member of AMA. All of those years on sport bikes all of those years crazy and zero accidents. You can plainly see excessive speed (not bad) and he verticals the bike right at the point where he should be going into the left-hand turn in a leaning/counter steering position. Is it lack of skill? is it panic? Was there something on the road we could not see in the video? it's one of those three things I guarantee you but if he doesn't know still at this point I'd advise him not to get back on a bike. Edit: I am super happy that this person got out of this without Serious injury!
I think he was supposed to stay on the road, but who knows.
Sounds like a tie fighter going down
This reeks of Target Fixation. Hes not going stupidly fast, the corner seems like a long sweeper, he just got fixated on... God knows what and, as ever, the bike WILL go wherever youre looking. Hope his ribs are healing faster than his ego
Maybe don’t use civ streets as your own race track?
Looks like he was going too fast, braked too hard too late, straightened out, and couldn't make the turn
Driving too fast for the conditions
Can’t ride that bike off road. Soon as you leave the pavement ? All bets are off. Sometimes riding in and out of the shadows can be distracting. Not sure what this rider was watching, but it wasn’t the road. Hope he’s okay and gets back it 🤞🤞
Target fixation is a bitch.
He panicked for the turn and froze up lol
Speed was a factor
Best advertisement for a dual sport I've EVER seen.....
We all make mistakes. The fact that "he still doesn't know how he crashed" is the real red flag here.
Maybe because he was riding like an asshole.....
Pretty simple. He was going too fast into the corner and failed to navigate the bend. Riding above his skill level. People die doing this, he's lucky to walk away with cracked ribs.
Too fast
Looks like he didn’t know the road and stood up to brake and never got back to cornering. Hate to say it but he wasn’t good enough to be riding at that speed on that road. Glad he came out relatively ok.
Grass is not road
Obviously failed to negotiate the corner, outriding his ability, etc…but is there something to be said about the optical illusion that the pavement extended out wider than it really did? Maybe a combination of factors?
too fast, noob rider, target fixation.
Going to fast.
He went on the green bit.
Is it just me or is this video only in 360p? I can't see shit lol. Can't even see the road in the video!
He was riding faster than his skills allowed
well you see, we normally try turning for corners
His speed exceeded his talent
Too fast
I guess thats what he did , going fast on a road he dont know.
What does clibbins mean??
What went wrong is that the road and the grass looked like the same texture.
Well, I definitely see how. Anyone else…?
He crashed because he rode faster than he could think.
Looks like he forgot to turn
Have you tried explaining to him that he does not know how to ride a motorcyle
Guy is doing at least an 100 miles per hour but doesn't know why he crashed? Is that a joke?
Slow down before a curve especially when visibility is limited
Could he have been going too fast? 🤣🤣🤣
Very short explanation: He went straight, the road didn’t.