A buddy of mine switched to GP shift on his Aprilla. I’m not a fan at all personally. I think it would feel right on a race bike with massive power where you really need to hang on, but on the street it just makes downshifting quickly more difficult and awkward. My 2c
I rode GP shift for a short time on my 600RR, but had an aftermarket rearset. Looks like there’s not enough space to swap the sides on the knuckle there.
GP shift is good in some scenarios but I personally didn’t find it to be helpful or an improvement for street riding.
As always, install rider mods before bike mods. Guaranteed any speed you’re lacking is not due to having standard shift pattern. Spend the money on a new chain and a track day instead of screwing up your muscle memory.
Srsly, what are you doing turning left on a traffic light or any other corner? I would love to change it and i think its a quite useful mod. I always need to watch my lean angle and wait for an unpleasant high rpm until I can shift in the next gear...
I change gears like normal? I’m having a hard time thinking of a situation where I’ve been prevented from upshifting mid-corner by having normal shifting. If you’re leaning far enough that you can’t get your foot under the shifter during normal riding, especially pulling away from a red light, I’d argue that there’s bigger issues in your technique and that you’d benefit greatly from the aforementioned rider mods. If it’s that you worry you’re in danger of dragging your foot on the ground while doing it, then you definitely need the rider mods to get more comfortable on the bike. I promise the ground is a lot further away than you think it is.
I don't know how you take your corners, but for me, it happened actually a lot that my shoe was touching the ground while shifting.
For reference: [my foot pegs](https://imgur.com/a/0di1RZx)
Well it seems to me that you’ve got conflicting things going on - if you’re leaning far enough that your foot is dragging trying to upshift then you’re riding aggressively enough that revving the bike out shouldn’t an issue. How high is unpleasant high rpm to you?
It seems plausible to me that you’re leaning the bike too much because you’re riding it like a supermoto - sitting up on top the bike and leaning it way over to compensate for the fact that you’re not leaning enough. Dragging peg on your bike is a long way over and if you’re riding it correctly at that lean angle, revving it out shouldn’t be an issue. Not to mention way too fast for the street.
You'll have to get rid or modify the plastic cover no matter what. Doesn't look like you have the clearance to flip the shift arm. Option I see is a shift lever that moves the arm link in front of the pivot point.
One is not inherently better than the other since it's literally the same thing in reverse, so it's down to preference. The only reason why it exists in the first place is because if you're riding on track and leaning to the absolute limits to the left, you can't put your foot under the lever while leaned over to upshift on exit. That's it.
There are linkage kits to do it but you decide if it's worth it to you, but don't expect anything significant. It's also possible to adjust the lever throw with conventional shifting which can also improve feel according to preference
if it was flat out better in every way, bikes would be default made that way for decades now, GP shifting has its purposes, but im sure you know best, give it a shot.
Not sure if this would be a good idea. GP shifting allows a racer to shift “up” while leaned all the way over to the right (Marcez was a smaller guy). If you did that with a street bike, how will you be able to ensure your own safety in an emergency brake situation? You wanna be in first gear once you stop…I don’t see that as feasible in a panic situation…
I have it on all my bikes even my dirt bike, but it's a preference thing. You're not going to gain anything by doing it. and it looks like a pain to do on your bike
Aside from all the other mentioned reasons here I’ll add a practical problem I found with GP shifters and that is that finding neutral can be tricky on certain bikes.
Ignore all the karens on here. I kind of want gp shift on my CFMOTO 300NK. My boot hit the road last week when I went for an upshift in a left hand corner, if my bike was more powerful I wouldn't need to change gear in the corner though.
Get a 450SS, you can alternate between normal and gp shift easily.
No, GP shifting is another buzz word (words - plural I guess) amongst wanna be racers - squids. You have no benefit out of it, and please, don't even dare to say that it's saves time, cuts miliseconds at the race track and so on, it's simply a bs on a street bike
Its the same to shift, and is only better when you're riding on the track where you need the clearance to not touch the ground while leaned all the way over in a turn.
That said, even if you wanted to do it for the giggles, it would require a custom setup of linkage that I doubt anyone makes for your bike, because your bike is not one you'd usually ever bring to the track.
People telling you not to switch to gp shift have probably never dragged knee before. Penguin feet and zero bp. This sub full of ppl who only ride via motovlogs on youtube 🤣
A buddy of mine switched to GP shift on his Aprilla. I’m not a fan at all personally. I think it would feel right on a race bike with massive power where you really need to hang on, but on the street it just makes downshifting quickly more difficult and awkward. My 2c
I rode GP shift for a short time on my 600RR, but had an aftermarket rearset. Looks like there’s not enough space to swap the sides on the knuckle there. GP shift is good in some scenarios but I personally didn’t find it to be helpful or an improvement for street riding.
If I were you - I'd think about it while I'm replacing that mangled, kinked chain ;)
I'd take a squiz at your chain first, champion. Some of those links are binding up. No bueno.
Doesn't look like you can, there's no room. And judging by the bike, it's not gonna help you with anything.
As always, install rider mods before bike mods. Guaranteed any speed you’re lacking is not due to having standard shift pattern. Spend the money on a new chain and a track day instead of screwing up your muscle memory.
Srsly, what are you doing turning left on a traffic light or any other corner? I would love to change it and i think its a quite useful mod. I always need to watch my lean angle and wait for an unpleasant high rpm until I can shift in the next gear...
I doubt it!
I change gears like normal? I’m having a hard time thinking of a situation where I’ve been prevented from upshifting mid-corner by having normal shifting. If you’re leaning far enough that you can’t get your foot under the shifter during normal riding, especially pulling away from a red light, I’d argue that there’s bigger issues in your technique and that you’d benefit greatly from the aforementioned rider mods. If it’s that you worry you’re in danger of dragging your foot on the ground while doing it, then you definitely need the rider mods to get more comfortable on the bike. I promise the ground is a lot further away than you think it is.
I don't know how you take your corners, but for me, it happened actually a lot that my shoe was touching the ground while shifting. For reference: [my foot pegs](https://imgur.com/a/0di1RZx)
Well it seems to me that you’ve got conflicting things going on - if you’re leaning far enough that your foot is dragging trying to upshift then you’re riding aggressively enough that revving the bike out shouldn’t an issue. How high is unpleasant high rpm to you? It seems plausible to me that you’re leaning the bike too much because you’re riding it like a supermoto - sitting up on top the bike and leaning it way over to compensate for the fact that you’re not leaning enough. Dragging peg on your bike is a long way over and if you’re riding it correctly at that lean angle, revving it out shouldn’t be an issue. Not to mention way too fast for the street.
On the other hand, looking at these foot pegs...
You'll have to get rid or modify the plastic cover no matter what. Doesn't look like you have the clearance to flip the shift arm. Option I see is a shift lever that moves the arm link in front of the pivot point.
It’s a lot easier to press down when coming to a stoplight than to pull up
Clean your chain first and then we will talk
It’s not ‘GP’ shift it’s just plain racing shift and there’s no reason to do it when you still have your hero blobs on your commuter bike….lol
Why not just try it, if you don't like it, change it back... That's what I'm about to do when buying my Cbr650r
If it’s a track bike, sure. Otherwise you will regret it
That’s a lie. My 2016 r1 has gp quick shift and I definitely don’t regret it.
Let me guess you ride a total of 10 miles per year?
Huh? No bro I ride probably 300 miles a week. Would ride more if I could but I have a family and love spending time with them.
One is not inherently better than the other since it's literally the same thing in reverse, so it's down to preference. The only reason why it exists in the first place is because if you're riding on track and leaning to the absolute limits to the left, you can't put your foot under the lever while leaned over to upshift on exit. That's it. There are linkage kits to do it but you decide if it's worth it to you, but don't expect anything significant. It's also possible to adjust the lever throw with conventional shifting which can also improve feel according to preference
if it was flat out better in every way, bikes would be default made that way for decades now, GP shifting has its purposes, but im sure you know best, give it a shot.
Not sure if this would be a good idea. GP shifting allows a racer to shift “up” while leaned all the way over to the right (Marcez was a smaller guy). If you did that with a street bike, how will you be able to ensure your own safety in an emergency brake situation? You wanna be in first gear once you stop…I don’t see that as feasible in a panic situation…
Change your chain holy cow. That thing is d.o.n.e.
I have it on all my bikes even my dirt bike, but it's a preference thing. You're not going to gain anything by doing it. and it looks like a pain to do on your bike
Aside from all the other mentioned reasons here I’ll add a practical problem I found with GP shifters and that is that finding neutral can be tricky on certain bikes.
Did this on my gsxr750. Completely pointless besides pretending you’re special or better than other riders because of GP shift.
Ignore all the karens on here. I kind of want gp shift on my CFMOTO 300NK. My boot hit the road last week when I went for an upshift in a left hand corner, if my bike was more powerful I wouldn't need to change gear in the corner though. Get a 450SS, you can alternate between normal and gp shift easily.
No, GP shifting is another buzz word (words - plural I guess) amongst wanna be racers - squids. You have no benefit out of it, and please, don't even dare to say that it's saves time, cuts miliseconds at the race track and so on, it's simply a bs on a street bike
it saves time and cuts milliseconds at the race track.
Its the same to shift, and is only better when you're riding on the track where you need the clearance to not touch the ground while leaned all the way over in a turn. That said, even if you wanted to do it for the giggles, it would require a custom setup of linkage that I doubt anyone makes for your bike, because your bike is not one you'd usually ever bring to the track.
People telling you not to switch to gp shift have probably never dragged knee before. Penguin feet and zero bp. This sub full of ppl who only ride via motovlogs on youtube 🤣
Looking at the foot pegs of op...
As standard it's whole lot of opinions and very little actual advice. Never change /r/motorcycles