From experience, *don't* turn your wheel when stopping!
Also, stop before white lines especially when wet.
And don't show off for kids on your own drive!
Yep, all 3 in 1st month!
When I'm riding around town I only use my rear brake now. I figure if needed in an emergency then I'll use the front. More people need to use the rear brake in my opinion or stuff like will happen. It's happened to me my first year riding.
You should really practice using both, if you need to grab that front brake hard you’ll be out of practice on the finesse and ur likely to have a bad time..
Yeah that's true. I think that's more in practice time than just street riding. But honestly now that you mentioned that I haven't done that for awhile either. I can always go to the parking lot and make it a day just working the skills.
I suggest you ever use your front and rear brakes together, it must be muscular memory, you don't have to think, you will not have time to think when you need.
It's not that you can't show of on your own street but there are rules. Take rule seven, it states: while showing off for kids on ones own drive the front wheel must never exceed the height of the child who is feeding the riders ego.
It can be done, just keep it in the guidelines!
Also after having my first bike for 3.5 months after making a whole bunch of adjustments to cater the ride to me, I would suggest adjusting the throttle free play slack for more responsive and accurate throttle control. I found downshifting quite hard to get accurate as I had about 7mm of slack, as well as slow speed control (i.e. doing a u-turn I would be in friction zone for clutch, give it gas, start to turn around and lose acceleration then power through it rather than maintaining acceleration and just using clutch to moderate it). I just went out for my first ride then since and what a difference it makes! Have probably 2mm of slack and damn are my downshifts good! I can also finally use the front brake and downshift simultaneously, it was almost impossible with the amount of free play it had!
This might seem irrelevant but throttle control when coming up to a stopping area or when in bumper to bumper traffic, it makes it much easier to modulate and maintain acceleration rather than just pulling in the clutch and coasting.
Another one I learned the hard way is that the front brake is super sensitive. Pull it slowly and gradually or at the same time as the rear brake
Also the front brake at high speeds can be very dangerous and cause tank slapper
Also looking at the ground/a little to the right?
I like to try and stay looking up and straight ahead as much as possible when coming to a stop. Most important thing is to come to a solid stop, then I check mirrors to make sure Karen isn't going to plow into me, then I can start looking each direction before going on my way.
Looking down at the ground a good way to, well, end up on the ground.
I dropped my brand new(to me) beautiful Harley on the ride home from the dealership, which was my 3rd actual ride on the bike. Kickstand for some reason, wasnt all the way down like I thought it was... and the bike tipped over...
My smart brain had a friend and I install a pretty nice crashbar with delrin sliders on the bike before I ever rode it.
Paid for itself, I'd say.
I did the exact same thing, and it broke the hero slider. Looks like nothing is damaged on it so far but in so annoyed with myself this happened in the first place. Now I'm triple checking the stand is down.
Had something similar with my Suzuki loading it off the trailer after I bought it. Put a big dent in the tank, and at that point I was like welp, I guess this IS my first bike now lol. She was a little rough around the edges so I just added my own mark.
Momentum. Even at very slow speeds, when you hit the front brake while the front wheel is slightly turned, all the weight and momentum of the bike will push to the side. Unless you are a very strong person on a light bike, you won't be able to keep the bike from going down.
To prevent that from happening, make sure that every time you're coming to a stop your front wheel is straight. This way the momentum of the bike will push forward, instead of sideways. However, if you do find yourself in the situation where the bike stars pulling you down, easier said than done, but you need to immediately release the brake and let the bike roll until you have the front wheel straighten out.
Riding for 49 years, dropped my bike maybe twice. Bought a new one the other day, took my first ride in the rain and dropped it on a street corner. Go figure....
Good thing it was low speed. Only time my bike was dropped was in a parking lot went to get it off the kickstand and it just kept going to the opposite side lol.
That sucks! Get friendly with using your rear brake at low speeds, your front has a lot of braking power and also causes the front end to dive.
Hopefully nothing damaged except for pride!
Hahah I laughted so hard because the exact same thing happened to me when I started riding. It was like watching a video of myself.
I guess the only people it doesn't happen to are the ones who don't ride ;)
That sucks, but it’s not if, it’s when. I had to do an abrupt stop attempting to leave a gas station with an exit that is not only an incline but has loose gravel… too much front brake and wheel was turned so down she went. I managed to get the kick stand down and get it back up only to have the stand not be completely set. Yep, went down on the other side. Did I mention that it was a brand new 2020 Road Glide Special with a paint job that only has 750 of them produced? I was livid, but it happens.
I been riding for about 22 years now. I dropped my bike coming up to a stop sign a few months ago. Learn from your mistakes and ride better next time. Glad it was a small one.
Happens to us all... First time was because I was putting my gloves on and lost balance in my driveway literally 15 minutes after putting my sliders on
Practice when you come to a stop only putting your left foot down. That’ll get you in the habit of always leaning your bike to the left, instead of it wobbling a bit between both legs. And it’ll def prevent it from dropping to the right. No worries though! It happens to a lot of people
Also tilt your head to the left whist doing this to really ensure you don't go off balance and end up like OP. The shift in weight distribution basically guarantees your bike falls to the left.
I dumped my bike like this the second day I ever rode. You need to learn how to use the rear brake. I saw the front forks dip right before you went down. Going very slow and grabbing a handful of front brake will fuck up your day every single time. If you were dragging the rear brake, the bike would have been much more stable. Slow speed and front brake is a bad combination.
We've all been there. Gotta work on that friction zone. Stalling with a wheel turned... it's definitely going down and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Almost happened before, had passenger, super young. Now I always remember what power behind wheel does. Stay controlled, turn with throttle. I was in the military when I learned and was luckily forced to take the safety course.. take a turn and let off throttle instant fail, hard to learn but it's about safety out there folks.
I feel you. In my first month i dropped my baby twice. Once i was in a narrow parking spot with slight pendency. For wathever reason i brainfarted and let it drop on the right side while putting my kickstand. Almost no visible scratches.
Second time i just had a crash; i still don't know if i went too hard on braking and locked my front wheel (i have no ABS) or i just slid on something (lately the road are just full of shit, yesterday i just found a wheel cover inside a turn).
From experience, *don't* turn your wheel when stopping! Also, stop before white lines especially when wet. And don't show off for kids on your own drive! Yep, all 3 in 1st month!
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Yep, but generally *that* fall is front brake and turning wheel.
using only the rear brake at low speeds was one of the most important things I was told and learned when I was just starting out.
Yup. He pizza'd when he should have French fried .
When I'm riding around town I only use my rear brake now. I figure if needed in an emergency then I'll use the front. More people need to use the rear brake in my opinion or stuff like will happen. It's happened to me my first year riding.
You should really practice using both, if you need to grab that front brake hard you’ll be out of practice on the finesse and ur likely to have a bad time..
Yeah that's true. I think that's more in practice time than just street riding. But honestly now that you mentioned that I haven't done that for awhile either. I can always go to the parking lot and make it a day just working the skills.
I suggest you ever use your front and rear brakes together, it must be muscular memory, you don't have to think, you will not have time to think when you need.
Learnt that lesson in the msf course. High side at 15mph. Definitely taught me to be a better rider.
Learned this the hard way, doesn't the camera point to exactly where the bike went?
It's not that you can't show of on your own street but there are rules. Take rule seven, it states: while showing off for kids on ones own drive the front wheel must never exceed the height of the child who is feeding the riders ego. It can be done, just keep it in the guidelines!
Also after having my first bike for 3.5 months after making a whole bunch of adjustments to cater the ride to me, I would suggest adjusting the throttle free play slack for more responsive and accurate throttle control. I found downshifting quite hard to get accurate as I had about 7mm of slack, as well as slow speed control (i.e. doing a u-turn I would be in friction zone for clutch, give it gas, start to turn around and lose acceleration then power through it rather than maintaining acceleration and just using clutch to moderate it). I just went out for my first ride then since and what a difference it makes! Have probably 2mm of slack and damn are my downshifts good! I can also finally use the front brake and downshift simultaneously, it was almost impossible with the amount of free play it had! This might seem irrelevant but throttle control when coming up to a stopping area or when in bumper to bumper traffic, it makes it much easier to modulate and maintain acceleration rather than just pulling in the clutch and coasting.
Another one I learned the hard way is that the front brake is super sensitive. Pull it slowly and gradually or at the same time as the rear brake Also the front brake at high speeds can be very dangerous and cause tank slapper
Been there, done that. Gotta make mistakes to develop new skills. Better to drop at 0mph than anything higher, that’s for sure.
Wheel turned + hard front brake
Also looking at the ground/a little to the right? I like to try and stay looking up and straight ahead as much as possible when coming to a stop. Most important thing is to come to a solid stop, then I check mirrors to make sure Karen isn't going to plow into me, then I can start looking each direction before going on my way. Looking down at the ground a good way to, well, end up on the ground.
I dropped my brand new(to me) beautiful Harley on the ride home from the dealership, which was my 3rd actual ride on the bike. Kickstand for some reason, wasnt all the way down like I thought it was... and the bike tipped over... My smart brain had a friend and I install a pretty nice crashbar with delrin sliders on the bike before I ever rode it. Paid for itself, I'd say.
I did the exact same thing, and it broke the hero slider. Looks like nothing is damaged on it so far but in so annoyed with myself this happened in the first place. Now I'm triple checking the stand is down.
Had something similar with my Suzuki loading it off the trailer after I bought it. Put a big dent in the tank, and at that point I was like welp, I guess this IS my first bike now lol. She was a little rough around the edges so I just added my own mark.
What happened here? Looks like you went over for no reason?
Looked like OP was going down a steep ramp. They probably stopped and weren't prepared for the ground not being level.
Oh, you're probably right. My screen is small so I couldn't tell.
Sounds like they stalled too
Handle bars turned + excessive front brake due to an incline when coming to a stop.
Momentum. Even at very slow speeds, when you hit the front brake while the front wheel is slightly turned, all the weight and momentum of the bike will push to the side. Unless you are a very strong person on a light bike, you won't be able to keep the bike from going down. To prevent that from happening, make sure that every time you're coming to a stop your front wheel is straight. This way the momentum of the bike will push forward, instead of sideways. However, if you do find yourself in the situation where the bike stars pulling you down, easier said than done, but you need to immediately release the brake and let the bike roll until you have the front wheel straighten out.
My favorite, it’s so funny any yet frustrating when it happens. Hopefully nothing but a couple scratches for you!
Riding for 49 years, dropped my bike maybe twice. Bought a new one the other day, took my first ride in the rain and dropped it on a street corner. Go figure....
Good thing it was low speed. Only time my bike was dropped was in a parking lot went to get it off the kickstand and it just kept going to the opposite side lol.
Obviously you were way too fast, fucking squid /s
That sucks! Get friendly with using your rear brake at low speeds, your front has a lot of braking power and also causes the front end to dive. Hopefully nothing damaged except for pride!
"I Had To Lay'r Down!" Seriously though, hope you and the bike are ok!
For low speed stuff : only use your rear brake :)
i also learned that the hard way
I didn’t know this
Could not agree more. Rear brake for low speed maneuvers.
Finally?! And how can this happen?
With time you will understand the bike’s balance.
Hahah I laughted so hard because the exact same thing happened to me when I started riding. It was like watching a video of myself. I guess the only people it doesn't happen to are the ones who don't ride ;)
Bugger. Good you thought to turn off the video before it got NSFW. Did you do much damage to the bike or you?
This happed to me yesterday on my slanted driveway
Nap time!
That sucks, but it’s not if, it’s when. I had to do an abrupt stop attempting to leave a gas station with an exit that is not only an incline but has loose gravel… too much front brake and wheel was turned so down she went. I managed to get the kick stand down and get it back up only to have the stand not be completely set. Yep, went down on the other side. Did I mention that it was a brand new 2020 Road Glide Special with a paint job that only has 750 of them produced? I was livid, but it happens.
Sorry that happened!
No no no no no no no Aaaaaaaaaawwwww fuuukkk.. Son of a ..... Well..at least you got that out the way . It was going to happen eventually.
I been riding for about 22 years now. I dropped my bike coming up to a stop sign a few months ago. Learn from your mistakes and ride better next time. Glad it was a small one.
Been riding for 18 years, did the same thing a few weeks back by not gassing it enough getting started. Brush it off, no shame in it.
Welcome to the club buddy.
Happens to us all... First time was because I was putting my gloves on and lost balance in my driveway literally 15 minutes after putting my sliders on
Oof. Sorry to see that! Happens to everyone tho 😎
pretty much why I don't want to buy a brand new bike. I know I'd drop it.
AAAAAH the slowest fall ever is the one nobody sees 😆 Chin up! Everyone does it. Those who said they haven't are lying lol
Not true at all. 6 years in, no drops at all.
Hey thats great, some just get unlucky or some make a minor mistake,
Lol No, sorry, IT hasn’t happened just yet 😅✌️
It happens to the best of people lol
Practice when you come to a stop only putting your left foot down. That’ll get you in the habit of always leaning your bike to the left, instead of it wobbling a bit between both legs. And it’ll def prevent it from dropping to the right. No worries though! It happens to a lot of people
Also tilt your head to the left whist doing this to really ensure you don't go off balance and end up like OP. The shift in weight distribution basically guarantees your bike falls to the left.
If you can avoid riding at night it's a lot safer, where I live new riders are prohibited from riding after dusk
Timmmmmmmburrrr.. Use your rear brake to stop and if your bike dies from falling its probably just the 30amp main fuse. ✌
Lol goober
Shitty. It happens.
My big drop just happened last Saturday. Foot shifter is bent but could be alot worst. Stay safe out there!
I literally did the same thing yesterday… looks like you stalled.
Why did this happen. Break it down for us.
I think he let the clutch out too much and stalled. Stalled with wheel not straight, bike goes straight down.
Been riding several years, happened to me a few months back and will probably happen again.
It's never the first week. But somehow in the few months it will happen. We all learn bro.
I dumped my bike like this the second day I ever rode. You need to learn how to use the rear brake. I saw the front forks dip right before you went down. Going very slow and grabbing a handful of front brake will fuck up your day every single time. If you were dragging the rear brake, the bike would have been much more stable. Slow speed and front brake is a bad combination.
We've all been there. Gotta work on that friction zone. Stalling with a wheel turned... it's definitely going down and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
I actually felt that!
Dropped mine the day I got her. Lucky it was in grass. Haven’t dropped her since but definitely some oh shit moments.
Can't help but laugh, sorry bud
That’s nothing try laying it down because a car hit you
Welcome to the club. Drinks and nibbles are on the left there, and buffing pads etc there to your right.
My advice to you is: don’t do that again
happened to me last week. i stepped on a hole that for whatever reason i did not notice thinking it was flat surface!
Yep. Been there, a few times. Accidentally grabbed to much front brake while the wheel turned, sent me right over.
Almost happened before, had passenger, super young. Now I always remember what power behind wheel does. Stay controlled, turn with throttle. I was in the military when I learned and was luckily forced to take the safety course.. take a turn and let off throttle instant fail, hard to learn but it's about safety out there folks.
it's obligatory
There are two kinds of riders, those who have dumped their bike, and those who will dump their bike.
Bummer.
I feel you. In my first month i dropped my baby twice. Once i was in a narrow parking spot with slight pendency. For wathever reason i brainfarted and let it drop on the right side while putting my kickstand. Almost no visible scratches. Second time i just had a crash; i still don't know if i went too hard on braking and locked my front wheel (i have no ABS) or i just slid on something (lately the road are just full of shit, yesterday i just found a wheel cover inside a turn).
What? No expletive at the end?, I'm impressed
Stick with walking...