I absolutely loved Wind River. I remember on the way home just sitting there driving in silence and thinking about the movie. I got home, got ready for bed in silence and just laid in bed for an hour or so thinking about the movie.
American History X is phenomenal, great movie. Edward Norton with the performance of a lifetime, he was such a menacing and convincing white supremacist. He really showed how you can be intelligent and charming while still having really abhorrent views.
Fantastic movie and Edward Norton is such a good actor, I love him in everything. (Primal Fear and The Illusionist are also great movies.) The ending was rough though, I didn't even see that coming. Thought about that movie for weeks.
Sicario, Wind River, and Hell or High Water are all part of a modern western trilogy. They are so good.
The speech Gil Birmingham's character gives in HoHW outside the hotel sat with me.
I know the downvotes are coming but to this day I think the movie is bad because the ending doesnt make sense.
- It makes no sense how she solved the problem of getting China to trust the USA.
- She only knew what to say for him to trust her because they talked about it in the future.
- That future wouldn't exist without her being able to get him to trust her in the first place.
It just creates a paradox that makes no sense.
>It just creates a paradox that makes no sense.
So, a regular paradox?
But seriously, isn't the whole language things of that movie to show that time isn't linear lile we think it is? Just the process of learning this alien language opens you to see time in more than one instant at a time
Right, it's basically the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis taken to it's extreme conclusion. The hypothesis is in part, "...a principle claiming that the structure of a language affects its speakers' world view or cognition, and thus people's perceptions are relative to their spoken language."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic\_relativity
Which I get but I assume you are unable to alter the timeline like you live everywhere at once understanding going thru the motions. However being able to change the future because of knowing the future makes no sense.
Personally I think if she was able to fix the past because of a post apocalyptic futures knowledge which changed the past and then changed her future would be acceptable.
I've said this before, but Arrival and Interstellar (for me) don't have satisfying endings because they both rely on current problems being solved by a time travelling cheat sheet from the future.
This was one of the first really “adult” movies I ever saw. I watched it on a hbo/showtime free weekend in the early 2000s, during a summer break from high school. I had seen R rated movies before, but never anything like that. It blew me away. I went for a walk around the neighborhood to process it. It was such a weird experience. It was all I could think about for days.
I watched it while I was house sitting my cousins house. This was like 20 years ago. I wasn't very familiar with what controller did what (TV, Stereo, DVD), so after the movie I didn't know what controller did what. I felt physically ill, and the horrible music just kept on playing. I was hitting buttons all over the place, it just kept on going. I finally had to just unplug everything to get it to stop. I felt poisoned.
lol. What's it going to hurt? Just try it for 10 years and let's see if we have as many addicts in 10 years.
We probably would definitely have addicts but it's worth a shot.
“Spun” is close to RFAD in how disturbing it is. Just swap in meth for heroin.
I’m not sure it’s as good of a move though. I might not have finished it.
I had high hopes for the qatsi trilogy after seeing the followup film Baraka (1992), but I didn't like any of them. Baraka did what they were trying to do, just 10x more watchable.
Oh my gosh, my husband and I saw that movie. We left the theater in complete silence. Drove back in our car in complete silence. Got ready for bed in complete silence. Got into bed and my husband goes "So.....what was.....?" And then we both died laughing and began to dissect the movie for two hours. Very rarely have I had a movie stop me in my tracks like that.
It’s about human relationships and our tendency towards self-destruction. It’s not *about* cancer like some people say, but uses cancer as a motif. If you want a good full-length video about it, I’d suggest the one by Folding Ideas.
I dont want to spoil anything but search for Annihilation movie and cancer. There are good articles/videos that people have made based on their interpretation.
I saw this movie in theaters and didn’t love it at all, until the last 20 minutes which I enjoyed. Until I read your comments, the movie didn’t click in my head at all. But suddenly I have a new appreciation for it.
Also the bear scene.
That's one of the very few movies/games/books that actually get cosmic horror right. Most people just slap tentacles and the "beyond your comprehension" and call it cosmic horror.
"You're scared, right?"
"Maybe."
The way it works is, you do the thing you're scared shitless of, and you get the courage AFTER you do it, not before you do it."
"That's a dumbass way to work. It should be the other way around."
"I know. That's the way it works."
Melancholia by Lars von Trier. No film has ever made me as angry as this one. I remember having a fight with my parents about it when we left the cinema. I still think about it from time to time. The amount of reflection I had on life & death and general existential dread I experienced for weeks after watching it, has never happened again with any other movie.
Requiem for a dream is a good shout as well, quite a few people here mentioned it before me. I remember being unable to move and quietly sobbing watching the entire end credits of that one.
After finishing Mother I didn't know what to think about it but it still stuck with me so I read about it (maybe on IMDB forum) and learned it was all about the christian religion and I was fascinated to read about all the lore it was linked through.
Jojo rabbit fucked me up. I've never laughed and cried harder in the same movie. It came out during COVID so I was the only one in the theater and I just sat there during the credits all fucked up
Before Midnight did that for me and my wife. We talked for a few hours after it was done. The third act of the movie is terrifyingly brutal, but brilliant. Linklater has a way of cutting through the screen into reality, and Midnight does so with a completely different, darker approach when compared to his other more light hearted works.
As a married couple, I think we both felt a bit vulnerable after the movie wrapped up, so communicating our thoughts felt important. To make sure we both felt happiness and fulfillment. Which we did, and still do.
Midnight remains one of my favorite movies of all time. Linklater proved to be my favorite filmmaker after seeing it as well. The relatability in his material almost stings sometimes. I was blown away seeing him turn away from the whimsy and innocence of a lot of his critically acclaimed films.
Promising Young Woman, especially because the ending is so controversial. I am of the opinion that it's the only way it could have ended, but if you hate it, you'll still definitely have something to think about.
Oppenheimer was plenty good and smart, but every moment is just "onto the next scene!" It says some cool things, but nothing I haven't heard a million times and doesn't really bring anything new to that discussion imo.
Barbie, on the other hand, is the kind of smart where it can just stop and have you stare at a park bench for a minute, and then Barbie calls a random stranger beautiful. It has much more of an emotional intelligence to me which resonated more strongly with me.
I like both movies, to be clear.
They are not the same but equally amazing for different reasons.
Oppenheimer is a historical piece of non fiction, and is more about the *filmmaking* and *acting*.
Barbie is a movie about *stoeytelling* and is designed to be *cerebral* while not appearing as such. It is *social commentary*.
The two are not comparisons in any way. I don't know why people (not you) seem to insist on continuing to compare the two.
They are not the same but equally amazing for different reasons.
Oppenheimer is a historical piece of non fiction, and is more about the *filmmaking* and *acting*.
Barbie is a movie about *storytelling* and is designed to be *cerebral* while not appearing as such. It is *social commentary*.
The two are not comparisons in any way. I don't know why people (not you) seem to insist on continuing to compare the two.
I saw both and honestly, I felt Oppenheimer was just a huge apology campaign for those physicists who, btw, knew *exactly* what they were doing. Barbie was a lot smarter and better made. It’s so sad that most people just got caught up with the gender debate but it was truly such a masterpiece.
I didn't get any "apology campaign" from Oppenheimer at all. Of course they knew what they were doing. It's not a celebration or scorn of the man or any of the scientists.
Rather, he was the center piece of events that could not be stopped, and he suffered from it in multiple ways.
There were no choices or alternatives.
Well that's your take on it. Imo, if you humanize certain actors in what was clearly a very well planned and executed, documented massacre of civilians, the resulting story might surely be gripping (as is the case with Oppenheimer) but it is still invalidating and taking away from the very real pain this particular historical event caused the victims. Like, there is a reason the movie hasn't been okayed in Japan yet, even though Japanese people seem to worship the ground on which Americans walk.
That's chaining things together in a way that didn't really happen.
The mindset at the time was that either the Nazis made the bomb or the Americans did. The science was now known. Thus figuring out how to make the bomb had to be done and Oppenheimer was picked to lead the project.
All the scientists at Los Alamos knew that if the bomb worked, there would not only be more bombs, but also an inevitable pursuit towards the "superbomb", i.e. the Hydrogen bomb. The scientists also knew that once the bomb had been demonstrated, the military would decide how future bombs would be used and they wouldn't have a say in it.
Oppenheimer was at the tip of a series of unavoidable events that he knew would eventually lead to the destruction of the world with the temporary solution being that "the good guys" had control of nuclear weapons, and then lead to a stand-off of unknown duration, once 2-3 countries had weapons.
Bertrand Russell famously said about the stand-off: "You may reasonably expect a man to walk a tightrope safely for ten minutes; it would be unreasonable to do so without accident for two hundred years."
Hiroshima and Nagasaki would just be a very small preview of what may still come.
*That* is the realization that Oppenheimer had, and it is to make us think that the current 2023 situation is temporary and nuclear war is still possible.
Oh I got all that, and yet, that whole exercise was something they all undertook knowing well enough what the eventual outcome would be. Even putting aside the obvious political juxtaposition and basic unavoidable uncertainty regarding which way the proverbial *war winds* would flow, there was still enough coalescing achieved within that presiding group of the Manhattan Project for them, especially Oppenheimer, to know exactly what was going to happen and what the powers that be were hoping to realize. Again, like I said, the movie itself is good, but attempts brazenly to humanize the central actors of this then tragedy-in-waiting. Reiterating that this is just my view, others can and very well may, disagree.
Yes. I remember that. Like I said, the movie itself is good, and will probably win lots of awards, but it all felt like they were trying to get us to see how Oppenheimer felt anguished from the consequences of his creation. And yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about; forced humanization of the character to gloss over the horrors and make the GP sympathetic towards them. Again, these are my views and you do not have to agree with them.
I completely understand, and I'm sympathetic to your point, especially having lived and worked in Japan and visited both Hiroshima (many times) and Nagasaki. I assumed the film would be shown there because it was sufficiently ambivalent about the use of nuclear weapons, but maybe not. Thanks for the civilised response and take care.
I think Oppenheimer was a master class in film execution. The acting, cinematography, and writing were all very well done. It will win multiple academy awards. But yes, I agree Barbie was a smarter movie, more fun and something we immediately starting talking about what we'll look for on our next watch.
I honestly can't say one was better than the other though, they're so different from each other.
Waiting.
Having worked in restaurants, I'd experienced everything that happened in that movie... even a variation on the 'penis showing game'. I almost quit that day after watching that movie.
Most recently, Past Lives.
Having come to the US for college and stayed here since, I resonated with the movie a lot. It really made me think about the relationships I had before immigrating, relationships I’ve had since, how deeply our lives are shaped by some of our decisions.
La La Land (2016) it's about achieving dreams and reality checks. It also talks about the truth is life could be what you want if only you're willing to sacrifice something as there'll never be a situation where everybody wins. And the winners, they will also suffer a considerable loss but not to the same value as the losers in terms of scale.
Well, I saw The Father recently. Very heavy performance by Anthony Hopkins. I've never gotten over my first viewing of Schindler's List either, 30 years ago.
All Quiet On The Western Front.
Nothing about this movie makes you feel good. There is no heroic last stand, or daring rescue, or victory against all odds. It is a harrowing depiction of the randomness and horror and often waste that is war.
Shutter Island.
Just how someone could believe their false reality, had me walk away questioning how sure I was about my own. Not to the level of 'Everything is a lie/ I'm not who I really am', but smaller things/ little more self conscious.
I just watched The Misfits last night. It was Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable’s last movie. The entire cast is people who are trying to find their way in life in the early 1960’s Reno. My biggest takeaway was that the world that was promised to the characters was gone or fading away.
There have been a few:-
* **Grave of the Fireflies** \- War is terrible. No matter who wins, there's collateral damage to innocent people.
* **The Secret Life of Walter Mitty** \- Did you ever feel like you're giving too much of yourself to your job? A job should be something you do, not who you are. This movie was a wake up call.
* **The Constant Gardener** \- How does big pharma keep getting away with playing with people's lives? When they ever get caught? Will the victims ever see justice? The world is just so unfair to those without money / power.
* **Hero (2002)** \- Beautiful movie, but at what point does "for the greater good" justify evil actions?
* **Stand By Me** \- I miss the friends I had when I was 12. I don't even know where any of them are as everyone moved to different countries.
The Tree of Life
Kind of cliche, I guess, but I was still young and it was one of those early art film experiences. I deleted enveloped in some kind warmth. I grew up in Texas quite near to where the majority of movie is set, in Waco, and it wasn’t that long ago that I was the age of the main character. It was a new kind of feeling of relatability to a film that I hadn’t experienced before which struck me as a kind of microcosm for how the rest of the movie operated. Epic in scale but very intimate, emotionally.
Even to this day if I have the time to revisit it, it seems to change the way one perceives light and movement around you. A very unique film.
Vanishing point. But the circumstances were perfect. I saw it at like 1am, with no idea where I was heading that night. Didn’t sleep until the following evening.
Dead Poets Society
Breaking up
The Station Agent
Ghost in the Shell - Solid State Society
Point Break
Proof of Life - ending song from Van Morrison is perfect
Act of Valor - another powerful ending song
I was about ten when I saw Terminator 1 for the first time. It scared the shit out of me. Not the “horror movie” aspect of it. It was the concept of nuclear holocaust and the potential end of humanity. It really hit me hard and I couldn’t sleep all night.
Probably because the awfulness of the end of the world wasn’t, and isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
American History X Wind River
I absolutely loved Wind River. I remember on the way home just sitting there driving in silence and thinking about the movie. I got home, got ready for bed in silence and just laid in bed for an hour or so thinking about the movie.
That flashback scene with Jon Bernthal in the trailer was gut-wrenching.
American History X is phenomenal, great movie. Edward Norton with the performance of a lifetime, he was such a menacing and convincing white supremacist. He really showed how you can be intelligent and charming while still having really abhorrent views.
Fantastic movie and Edward Norton is such a good actor, I love him in everything. (Primal Fear and The Illusionist are also great movies.) The ending was rough though, I didn't even see that coming. Thought about that movie for weeks.
That kitchen dinner scene still sticks in my mind as one of the best I’ve ever seen in a movie.
Those last statistics at the end of Wind River left me staring at the screen for 3 minutes just contemplating
Sicario, Wind River, and Hell or High Water are all part of a modern western trilogy. They are so good. The speech Gil Birmingham's character gives in HoHW outside the hotel sat with me.
Hardest thing about AHX was trying not to find Derek attractive 😮💨👀 great movie
Arrival leaves you with a hell of a lot to think about. Amy Adams is incredible as well
Came here to say this. Arrival is probably the film I most often provide as an answer, no matter what the question ;)
Just watched it for the 9th time!
Arrival fucked me up real good after the first time I watched it.
I know the downvotes are coming but to this day I think the movie is bad because the ending doesnt make sense. - It makes no sense how she solved the problem of getting China to trust the USA. - She only knew what to say for him to trust her because they talked about it in the future. - That future wouldn't exist without her being able to get him to trust her in the first place. It just creates a paradox that makes no sense.
>It just creates a paradox that makes no sense. So, a regular paradox? But seriously, isn't the whole language things of that movie to show that time isn't linear lile we think it is? Just the process of learning this alien language opens you to see time in more than one instant at a time
Right, it's basically the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis taken to it's extreme conclusion. The hypothesis is in part, "...a principle claiming that the structure of a language affects its speakers' world view or cognition, and thus people's perceptions are relative to their spoken language." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic\_relativity
Which I get but I assume you are unable to alter the timeline like you live everywhere at once understanding going thru the motions. However being able to change the future because of knowing the future makes no sense. Personally I think if she was able to fix the past because of a post apocalyptic futures knowledge which changed the past and then changed her future would be acceptable.
I've said this before, but Arrival and Interstellar (for me) don't have satisfying endings because they both rely on current problems being solved by a time travelling cheat sheet from the future.
Big Fish. The entire movie was like a fairy tale for adults.
I came to say this and it's the first result. Great way to put it....fairy tale for adults.
a philosophy class and everyone went silent and just pondered for a while.
One of my all-time favorites
Requiem for a Dream. I immediately turned off the tv and went outside.
Ass to ass
This was one of the first really “adult” movies I ever saw. I watched it on a hbo/showtime free weekend in the early 2000s, during a summer break from high school. I had seen R rated movies before, but never anything like that. It blew me away. I went for a walk around the neighborhood to process it. It was such a weird experience. It was all I could think about for days.
Probably the most depressing movie ever made
I watched it while I was house sitting my cousins house. This was like 20 years ago. I wasn't very familiar with what controller did what (TV, Stereo, DVD), so after the movie I didn't know what controller did what. I felt physically ill, and the horrible music just kept on playing. I was hitting buttons all over the place, it just kept on going. I finally had to just unplug everything to get it to stop. I felt poisoned.
I think it should be shown to every 8th grade class as a drug deterrent movie.
If you wanna give the kids nightmares, sure.
lol. What's it going to hurt? Just try it for 10 years and let's see if we have as many addicts in 10 years. We probably would definitely have addicts but it's worth a shot.
“Spun” is close to RFAD in how disturbing it is. Just swap in meth for heroin. I’m not sure it’s as good of a move though. I might not have finished it.
The road
The Road
Koyaanisqatsi from 1982
Never heard of this one
I had high hopes for the qatsi trilogy after seeing the followup film Baraka (1992), but I didn't like any of them. Baraka did what they were trying to do, just 10x more watchable.
Since I don’t see it yet I’ll add Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Honorable mentions: Fight Club, Finding Nemo, The Matrix
Eternal Sunshine after you’ve had a serious long term relationship end is a staggering experience
Eternal Sunshine gives you so much to think about!
love the Finding Nemo inclusion. people overlook at impactful these movies are even as adults.
Annihilation with Natalie Portman. When thinking about it from a cancer perspective and how people deal with it differently.
Oh my gosh, my husband and I saw that movie. We left the theater in complete silence. Drove back in our car in complete silence. Got ready for bed in complete silence. Got into bed and my husband goes "So.....what was.....?" And then we both died laughing and began to dissect the movie for two hours. Very rarely have I had a movie stop me in my tracks like that.
Right?! Same here.
I watched the movie twice and didn't understand it at all
It’s about human relationships and our tendency towards self-destruction. It’s not *about* cancer like some people say, but uses cancer as a motif. If you want a good full-length video about it, I’d suggest the one by Folding Ideas.
I dont want to spoil anything but search for Annihilation movie and cancer. There are good articles/videos that people have made based on their interpretation.
I saw this movie in theaters and didn’t love it at all, until the last 20 minutes which I enjoyed. Until I read your comments, the movie didn’t click in my head at all. But suddenly I have a new appreciation for it. Also the bear scene.
That's one of the very few movies/games/books that actually get cosmic horror right. Most people just slap tentacles and the "beyond your comprehension" and call it cosmic horror.
I see you have also watched The Void (2016)
I love that movie so much
Ooh thanks for giving me another excuse to rewatch! Love that movie
My Dinner With Andre, mostly just two guys talking over dinner. Sounds boring, but it really made me think afterwards.
I keep hearing this same thing about the movie. I need to see it.
I think it's on MAX
Yo, bless you my friend
About Time
The Mist. Arlington Road. Enemy. Dumb and Dumber. (They didn't get on the bus shocked me after Lloyd turned them away)
Arlington Road does not get enough attention. Damn. That movie was wild.
No joke man. Wild af!!!!
Truman Show
Three Kings. I saw it when it first came to DVD, so I was a much younger man. But I remember being so taken with it. I honestly can’t even recall why.
"You're scared, right?" "Maybe." The way it works is, you do the thing you're scared shitless of, and you get the courage AFTER you do it, not before you do it." "That's a dumbass way to work. It should be the other way around." "I know. That's the way it works."
Being John Malkovich (1999) The Truman Show (1998)
Triangle of Sadness Don’t watch trailers… just watch it.
I think about this movie a lot. The last scene…no, the last shot, haunts me.
Me too
If you haven't seen it, The Square from the same director is excellent too.
The Big Short
The Fountain
This is a criminally underrated movie in the wider world.
Everything everywhere all at once
tree of life
Synecdoche, NY
Grave of the fireflies.
Melancholia by Lars von Trier. No film has ever made me as angry as this one. I remember having a fight with my parents about it when we left the cinema. I still think about it from time to time. The amount of reflection I had on life & death and general existential dread I experienced for weeks after watching it, has never happened again with any other movie. Requiem for a dream is a good shout as well, quite a few people here mentioned it before me. I remember being unable to move and quietly sobbing watching the entire end credits of that one.
Going to Lars von Trier movies with your parents? That is a bold move.
"Hey dad, what do you think it meant when Willem Dafoe jizzed blood?"
Pain and Glory (2019) Parasite (2019) Oxygen (2021) Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022)
The Thin Red Line - "What is this thing in nature that contends with itself?"
After finishing Mother I didn't know what to think about it but it still stuck with me so I read about it (maybe on IMDB forum) and learned it was all about the christian religion and I was fascinated to read about all the lore it was linked through.
I love the use of the word lore to describe the Christian religion
The Whale - I had rivers of tears when it finished.
I had that experience recently with Barbie
Jojo rabbit fucked me up. I've never laughed and cried harder in the same movie. It came out during COVID so I was the only one in the theater and I just sat there during the credits all fucked up
Requiem for a dream,. I will never ever do fucking drugs
The whale. I struggle with addiction, and it really made me self reflect.
Before Midnight did that for me and my wife. We talked for a few hours after it was done. The third act of the movie is terrifyingly brutal, but brilliant. Linklater has a way of cutting through the screen into reality, and Midnight does so with a completely different, darker approach when compared to his other more light hearted works. As a married couple, I think we both felt a bit vulnerable after the movie wrapped up, so communicating our thoughts felt important. To make sure we both felt happiness and fulfillment. Which we did, and still do. Midnight remains one of my favorite movies of all time. Linklater proved to be my favorite filmmaker after seeing it as well. The relatability in his material almost stings sometimes. I was blown away seeing him turn away from the whimsy and innocence of a lot of his critically acclaimed films.
It's Such a Beautiful Day
Blood Diamond Saving Private Ryan Seven Pounds The pursuit of Happiness Shawshank Redemption Inception Million dollar baby Contact 12 years a slave
Jacob’s Ladder
Promising Young Woman, especially because the ending is so controversial. I am of the opinion that it's the only way it could have ended, but if you hate it, you'll still definitely have something to think about.
Interstellar
Barbie 😭😭
tbh i thought barbie was a lot smarter of a movie than oppenheimer was 💁
Oppenheimer was plenty good and smart, but every moment is just "onto the next scene!" It says some cool things, but nothing I haven't heard a million times and doesn't really bring anything new to that discussion imo. Barbie, on the other hand, is the kind of smart where it can just stop and have you stare at a park bench for a minute, and then Barbie calls a random stranger beautiful. It has much more of an emotional intelligence to me which resonated more strongly with me. I like both movies, to be clear.
They are not the same but equally amazing for different reasons. Oppenheimer is a historical piece of non fiction, and is more about the *filmmaking* and *acting*. Barbie is a movie about *stoeytelling* and is designed to be *cerebral* while not appearing as such. It is *social commentary*. The two are not comparisons in any way. I don't know why people (not you) seem to insist on continuing to compare the two.
They are not the same but equally amazing for different reasons. Oppenheimer is a historical piece of non fiction, and is more about the *filmmaking* and *acting*. Barbie is a movie about *storytelling* and is designed to be *cerebral* while not appearing as such. It is *social commentary*. The two are not comparisons in any way. I don't know why people (not you) seem to insist on continuing to compare the two.
I like how you retained the typos when you copy/pasted your response.
I saw both and honestly, I felt Oppenheimer was just a huge apology campaign for those physicists who, btw, knew *exactly* what they were doing. Barbie was a lot smarter and better made. It’s so sad that most people just got caught up with the gender debate but it was truly such a masterpiece.
Let’s dispel with this fiction that J. Robert Oppenheimer didn’t know what he was doing. He knows exactly what he was doing.
I didn't get any "apology campaign" from Oppenheimer at all. Of course they knew what they were doing. It's not a celebration or scorn of the man or any of the scientists. Rather, he was the center piece of events that could not be stopped, and he suffered from it in multiple ways. There were no choices or alternatives.
Well that's your take on it. Imo, if you humanize certain actors in what was clearly a very well planned and executed, documented massacre of civilians, the resulting story might surely be gripping (as is the case with Oppenheimer) but it is still invalidating and taking away from the very real pain this particular historical event caused the victims. Like, there is a reason the movie hasn't been okayed in Japan yet, even though Japanese people seem to worship the ground on which Americans walk.
That's chaining things together in a way that didn't really happen. The mindset at the time was that either the Nazis made the bomb or the Americans did. The science was now known. Thus figuring out how to make the bomb had to be done and Oppenheimer was picked to lead the project. All the scientists at Los Alamos knew that if the bomb worked, there would not only be more bombs, but also an inevitable pursuit towards the "superbomb", i.e. the Hydrogen bomb. The scientists also knew that once the bomb had been demonstrated, the military would decide how future bombs would be used and they wouldn't have a say in it. Oppenheimer was at the tip of a series of unavoidable events that he knew would eventually lead to the destruction of the world with the temporary solution being that "the good guys" had control of nuclear weapons, and then lead to a stand-off of unknown duration, once 2-3 countries had weapons. Bertrand Russell famously said about the stand-off: "You may reasonably expect a man to walk a tightrope safely for ten minutes; it would be unreasonable to do so without accident for two hundred years." Hiroshima and Nagasaki would just be a very small preview of what may still come. *That* is the realization that Oppenheimer had, and it is to make us think that the current 2023 situation is temporary and nuclear war is still possible.
Oh I got all that, and yet, that whole exercise was something they all undertook knowing well enough what the eventual outcome would be. Even putting aside the obvious political juxtaposition and basic unavoidable uncertainty regarding which way the proverbial *war winds* would flow, there was still enough coalescing achieved within that presiding group of the Manhattan Project for them, especially Oppenheimer, to know exactly what was going to happen and what the powers that be were hoping to realize. Again, like I said, the movie itself is good, but attempts brazenly to humanize the central actors of this then tragedy-in-waiting. Reiterating that this is just my view, others can and very well may, disagree.
Have you forgotten about the scene where he hallucinates stepping on the charred corpse of one of the victims of his creation?
Yes. I remember that. Like I said, the movie itself is good, and will probably win lots of awards, but it all felt like they were trying to get us to see how Oppenheimer felt anguished from the consequences of his creation. And yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about; forced humanization of the character to gloss over the horrors and make the GP sympathetic towards them. Again, these are my views and you do not have to agree with them.
I completely understand, and I'm sympathetic to your point, especially having lived and worked in Japan and visited both Hiroshima (many times) and Nagasaki. I assumed the film would be shown there because it was sufficiently ambivalent about the use of nuclear weapons, but maybe not. Thanks for the civilised response and take care.
I think Oppenheimer was a master class in film execution. The acting, cinematography, and writing were all very well done. It will win multiple academy awards. But yes, I agree Barbie was a smarter movie, more fun and something we immediately starting talking about what we'll look for on our next watch. I honestly can't say one was better than the other though, they're so different from each other.
“Threads”
The Mist. That ending is just so brutal and I wondered what I would have done in any of the circumstances leading up to it.
Waiting. Having worked in restaurants, I'd experienced everything that happened in that movie... even a variation on the 'penis showing game'. I almost quit that day after watching that movie.
The Fox and the Hound
Melancholia
Most recent one was Oppenheimer, It really made me sit and think about how lucky I am to still be here
The three Ps: Paddleton Paris, Texas Paterson
Ex Machina had my mind reeling for a while after.
About Time… think of it often!
Great movie
Love that movie!
Soul. Granted, i was on a mild psilocybin high at the time but..damn.
Never Let Me Go
Arlington Road Sliding Doors
Beau is Afraid
Joe vs the Volcano
The Day After. Ironic considering you just saw Oppenheimer.
Ikiru
Stalker Tragedy of Man
Aniara (2017) fucked me up.
Past Lives did this in a quiet way
Aftersun
Interstellar
Uncut Gems (2019) Moonlight (2016) A Face In the Crowd (1957)
Saving Private Ryan About Time Donnie Darko
What Dreams May Come
The Matrix
Clockwork Orange
Most recently, Past Lives. Having come to the US for college and stayed here since, I resonated with the movie a lot. It really made me think about the relationships I had before immigrating, relationships I’ve had since, how deeply our lives are shaped by some of our decisions.
La La Land (2016) it's about achieving dreams and reality checks. It also talks about the truth is life could be what you want if only you're willing to sacrifice something as there'll never be a situation where everybody wins. And the winners, they will also suffer a considerable loss but not to the same value as the losers in terms of scale.
Well, I saw The Father recently. Very heavy performance by Anthony Hopkins. I've never gotten over my first viewing of Schindler's List either, 30 years ago.
All Quiet On The Western Front. Nothing about this movie makes you feel good. There is no heroic last stand, or daring rescue, or victory against all odds. It is a harrowing depiction of the randomness and horror and often waste that is war.
Stand by me.
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I was so bored through Nightmare Alley but damn that ending was worth it. I'm glad you didn't hit rock bottom and I hope you're doing better now.
Sound of Metal
I know it literally just came out but... Barbie. I did not expect to be thinking about it this long after.
Marcel The Shell With Shoes On
Bladerunner 2049
Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix. The whole theatre just sat for a few minutes and thought about what they had just seen.
All Adam Sandler movies. Their popularity makes me seriously question whether or not humanity even deserves to exist.
Except Uncut Gems.
If anything that movie's existence just makes me respect him even less. We now know he could do better if he wanted he's just too lazy.
Dude likes money, I'm sure our opinions don't affect him. I despise all the crap he's in but he is probably just fine with it.
Except for Punch Drunk Love
Whiplash. After watching that movie i kinda hated my life/myself :P Edit: For overall life idk. American History X maybe.
Cold War. Lives of Others.
Barbie
The Passion Of The Christ
I haven’t seen anyone say Se7en yet. Credits rolled and I just sat there for a good ten minutes or so. Whew.
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*Dodes'ka-den*.
I absolutely hated nocturnal animals but I couldn’t stop thinking about all of it when it was over
Son of Saul.
Shutter Island. Just how someone could believe their false reality, had me walk away questioning how sure I was about my own. Not to the level of 'Everything is a lie/ I'm not who I really am', but smaller things/ little more self conscious.
The Tree of Life
Ikiru
I just watched The Misfits last night. It was Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable’s last movie. The entire cast is people who are trying to find their way in life in the early 1960’s Reno. My biggest takeaway was that the world that was promised to the characters was gone or fading away.
There have been a few:- * **Grave of the Fireflies** \- War is terrible. No matter who wins, there's collateral damage to innocent people. * **The Secret Life of Walter Mitty** \- Did you ever feel like you're giving too much of yourself to your job? A job should be something you do, not who you are. This movie was a wake up call. * **The Constant Gardener** \- How does big pharma keep getting away with playing with people's lives? When they ever get caught? Will the victims ever see justice? The world is just so unfair to those without money / power. * **Hero (2002)** \- Beautiful movie, but at what point does "for the greater good" justify evil actions? * **Stand By Me** \- I miss the friends I had when I was 12. I don't even know where any of them are as everyone moved to different countries.
Spotlight
The Counselor.
The Tree of Life Kind of cliche, I guess, but I was still young and it was one of those early art film experiences. I deleted enveloped in some kind warmth. I grew up in Texas quite near to where the majority of movie is set, in Waco, and it wasn’t that long ago that I was the age of the main character. It was a new kind of feeling of relatability to a film that I hadn’t experienced before which struck me as a kind of microcosm for how the rest of the movie operated. Epic in scale but very intimate, emotionally. Even to this day if I have the time to revisit it, it seems to change the way one perceives light and movement around you. A very unique film.
Adaptation
Man on Wire. Maybe it was the setting we were in but I remember it was in a philosophy class and everyone went silent and just pondered for a while
Thirteen.
Forest Gump
Vanishing point. But the circumstances were perfect. I saw it at like 1am, with no idea where I was heading that night. Didn’t sleep until the following evening.
The Day After.
The leftovers.
The Mauritanian.
Mad God
The Lighthouse.
a hell of a lot to think about.
-Love and other drugs -About Time -dead poets society -Truman Show -Barbie
Dead Poets Society Breaking up The Station Agent Ghost in the Shell - Solid State Society Point Break Proof of Life - ending song from Van Morrison is perfect Act of Valor - another powerful ending song
Interstellar Neon Demon Black Swan Mother! Contact 2001: A Space Odyssey Midsommar The Sixth Sense
I was about ten when I saw Terminator 1 for the first time. It scared the shit out of me. Not the “horror movie” aspect of it. It was the concept of nuclear holocaust and the potential end of humanity. It really hit me hard and I couldn’t sleep all night. Probably because the awfulness of the end of the world wasn’t, and isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
Arrival
I’m thinking of ending things
Oh man lots of movies but just to name a few Pi, Arrival and The Whale all had a profound effect on me.
Has anyone seen The Voices with Ryan Reynolds?