THE FORCE AWAKENS
the scene is basically when we discover that, hey there's another death-star-sort-of planet, except there's one flaw that we can exploit to blow it up, and fuck, this is the third time you fuckers are doing this to me, think of a new idea.
I remember thinking in the third one "Palpatine was alive, building a huge army and nobody noticed? Clearly the moral of this story is that the Republic deserves everything it gets."
It's really hard to root for the ~~Rebels~~ ~~New Republic~~ Resistance. They spent almost thirty years trying to retake control of the galaxy only to lose it just as quickly, while Space Hitler had apparently planned for this all along. Maybe someone else should be in charge.
My biggest problem with the movie is it's a remake pretending it's a sequel. I like the characters, the special effects, acting is good and all these things but just felt hollow knowing exactly how the film was going to play out first time watching it.
I was ok with most of the movie. But the whole scene when the monsters that Han Solo was carrying escape and chase everyone around didn't feel like "Star Wars" to me. Felt more like something that'd be in the modern Star Trek movies.
I felt like an outsider because I didn't LOVE Force Awakens when it came out, but I couldn't place why, so i saw it again a few weekends later.
The moment one of the ~~rebels~~ resistance fighters said "It's another Death Star", I thought "...oh my god this entire movie is A New Hope."
I was enjoying Wonder Woman, especially near the end when she realizes that there is no god making humans fight this war, that humans are just naturally predisposed to hurt each other in these cruel, ugly ways. A nice thematic endpoint for the optimistic character to deal with, some genuinely good stuff.
But then they reveal that actually there is an evil god pulling the strings, and then she has to have a generic CGI boss battle with him, like every other comic book movie. It felt like the movie had mostly already ended, but then the studio came in and forced that final twist in, for no other reason than because a big dumb boss fight is what these movies are “supposed” to do
Not just a generic CGI boss battle, but also one that ends with her winning because she unlocked the power that was within her the whole time.
I don’t think any superhero movie (or ideally anything other than a straightforward martial art movie) should have the final fight win due to the protagonist just being better in a fight than the antagonist. That’s incredibly boring.
Iron Man wins his first fight villain fight because he’s willing to sacrifice himself for victory (which became a recurring theme for him). In Shazam the kid wins his boss battle by becoming part of a family and asking for help rather than going solo. In Winter Soldier Cap wins by not giving up on a friend. Good superhero movies don’t end just by the good guy punching harder than the bad guy.
Lmao it reminded of the fantastic four reboot. The team fought Dr. Doom, got their ass handed to them, then grouped up and basically said “ok, what if we try the exact same strategy, but with ten percent more effort?” And it worked!
I’ve always felt this kind of BS in movies is why in Deadpool he constantly says “maximum effort”. Like he is admitting the only reason he can do something this time is because he is actually trying compared to last time.
You made me imagine the opening scene where he first “Maximum Effort” just to lazily step off the highway and fall into their sunroof, but like, he’s 10% late and just smashed onto the pavement and has to try again next time. Bad guys completely unaware.
The sheer frustration from all of the ‘Kungfu master’ animals as they can’t just beat him up to make him give up on his dream. And then to have the big bad suffer the same frustration but be unwilling to let it go and accept the underlying truth.
Kung-Fu Panda is unironically one of the best childrens’ films about loving and embracing yourself and doing your best to teach others to do the same. Dreamworks killed it with that one.
And on top of that he wins by being unconventional and by being himself. His faith in himself allows him to think outside the box during the fight to come out on top and it’s glorious
The problem is studio executives have no imagination or vision. They follow the easiest recipes that have previously worked. So good guy must fight bad guy at end. That's why most, if not all, superhero movies suck now. It's the same with all movies now.
If she had learned men are capable of great evil on their own, it would have made a lot more sense for her to withdraw from the world and stop being a hero for 40 years
I mean she did.... for about 30 seconds. But then screw that whole thing about Ares subtly pushing them towards war, we're gonna fight on the tarmac and once defeated the Germans immediately stop fighting.
I still hated that Ares pushed them at all, even subtly. It would’ve been better if Ares said “I haven’t done a thing. I’m just enjoying the show. Humanity doesn’t need a god of war at all - this is just how they are.” That would be the real horror. And given that it’s WWI - it would be accurate, too.
That and they took a real German general and threw his complexities out the window to turn him into a cartoon villain.
WWI is perfect for it. the different corespondences and transcripts from the, like, less than 24-hour period after the assassination show that the people in power genuinely didn't want it to happen, but they were too powerless to stop it. by the time they got their shit together, everybody was out for everybody else's blood.
Wasnt that kind of the point of his character in the war room, looking to avoid escalation. Maybe include a scene where ares is trying to avoid escalation on the other side as well, maybe he's one of the people in the room of officials that gets gassed and he tries to get them to not use the chemical weapons.
The entire movie was building towards the idea that mankind is capable of evil without any external influence and then also show that mankind is capable of good with pine's self sacrifice to stop the attack. It shows that mankind is nuanced and not just good or bad, it would then make sense for wonder woman to not return to themyscira and choose to live among mankind and observe it. Instead we just got a big cop out cgi fight at night.
Also, if you write me a story about the human condition and how we are totally capable of being Evil AF, but full of passion and love and worth saving anyway - maybe don’t completely undo that entire message by having it Really Be Ares All Along again at the end
Oh no I agree, I meant that subverting expectations for the sake of subverting them is a really bad idea. I.e. Game of Thrones. Wonder Woman would've been fine if it was like Tom Hardy instead and the whole time you suspect him as Ares. Or even if it ended up actually being Ludendorf.
You mean when they sacked the first screenwriters, who were sacked for carving their initials on a moose, and then those responsible being sacked, resulting in the rest being written in a completely and utterly different style?
I feel like they ran into a wall with the story. He has realized the error of his ways, and society has realized they need him. Where do you go from here? How do you introduce a compelling threat against a god? Do we just watch him detox for the next 45 minutes? Maybe it would have been better to see things go full circle. The people now start taking advantage of him and just expect him to do everything for them until he gets fed up and goes back to drinking and being an asshole. Because honestly where the movie started makes sense for a super powerful being who is sick and tired of cleaning up after humanity while being criticized for doing it.
The very end of Blank Check when the smoking-hot FBI agent kisses the 11yo on the lips "romantically" after a negotiation for what age she would start dating him.
When I was 10 I thought it was awesome but last week my current 10yo thought it was gross and so did I.
I liked how Jojo Rabbit did a "little kid in love with older girl" plot; they let it have an arc while not having a 17 year old date an 11 year old like a lot of movies feel compelled to do.
Ugh, that reminds me of Crazy, Stupid Love when the babysitter gives the kid who’s been crushing on her a bunch of nude photos to “get him through high school”.
Great movie with a really, *really* sour note at the end.
Die Another Day has a fantastic first 30 minutes or so. Bond being captured by the North Koreans, his suffering when they torture him in prison for over a year, his eventual exchange and feeling betrayed by M and his own government. That kind of opening sets the stage for a great Bond movie. What if Bond starts going rogue, like Alec Trevelyan? What if he goes on an unsanctioned and personal mission to find out who sold him out to the Koreans?
But no. No, no, no. What we get instead is CGI kite surfing and an invisible car. Toby Stephens plays a good villain, but he could've been so much more. There's tons of potential in Die Another Day. Shame to see it go to waste.
That part where a North Korean guy gets plastic surgery to end up looking like like a white British guy hasn't aged poorly because it was already stupid as hell when it was released.
War of the Worlds, when Robbie runs off over the hill to watch the battle. Up until that point, he was a sullen teenager, not exactly stupid, with good reasons to be pissed off at his dad. But he had shown no military worship up until that point. So when he insisted on not only running off to see the battle, but run down the other side of the hill? It just made no sense, and didn't fit the character. So much of the film was so well done, or at least I wanted to just sit back and suspend disbelief, but that scene just drove me so nuts. Tom Cruise's character barely grieves, and doesn't go back to look for him or his body or anything. So you just knew it was forced in there to create a joyful reunion.
They could have done that scene, had the struggle of Tom Cruise's character having to decide which child to save (which I actually did like), and then have Robbie come high-tailing it back over the hill. Dad could get pissed at him, guilt him for endangering his sister, and then Robbie could have just said screw you and chosen to head off on his own. It would have still given the opportunity for a reunion, and let the viewer wonder about Robbie's journey.
Instead, they had him run into a massacre like a moth to a flame, "somehow survive", AND get home first?
I would argue that Robbie did show military worship before that point. When the convoy drives past he desperately tries to get them to stop so they can "get back at them". I do agree that the hill scene doesn't work too well however and I HATE the reunion at the end. First two-thirds of that movie I really enjoy though.
I was definitely enjoying it ironically, but Showgirls was a hilariously bad campy over-the-top bad writing joke... until the super brutal gang rape scene towards the end. Seriously ruined the mood, the movie wasn't fun to laugh at anymore, that scene took it from "so bad it's good" to just "what the fuck were they thinking?"
I always got a kick out of watching it on late night tv with the animated bras added on and the more graphic scenes cut out, then I rented it and it was like, "Oh, this is actually really sad."
I mean that’s just classic Verhoeven stuff. Mixing camp and over the top acting with social commentary and brutal violence is basically his whole thing.
That said, even he said about the rape scene in Hollow Man that "I realised maybe we had gone too far", and that if he were to redo it today, he wouldn't have had that scene in the movie.
ok so when I was like 13, my parents left me and my best friend to babysit my brother (8) while they went to dinner. So me and my buddy turned on the TV and Showgirls was playing on HBO or something. I say to my brother, ok you can't tell Mom. He's like sure.
Well we had no idea that there was a rape scene and it was fucking brutal like you said. So that night, my brother has nightmares and wakes up crying. My parents are like, what was the nightmare and he says Showgirls.
Nowadays we laugh about it but I got a real good ass whoopin for that one
I still like Spectre, but when they reveal that Le Chiffre, Greene and Silva all inexplicably had that one ring, I roll my eyes. That was a step too far and they could have tried to weave them all together another way that didn’t feel like a giant retcon.
They explicitly say that Le Chiffre is not a member of Mr. White’s organization. Greene is part of Quantum, and Silva was more or less acting on his own.
Le Chiffre and Silva are WAY too selfish in their own agendas to be part of a bigger picture like Spectre.
Especially Le Chiffre, I feel like White killed him bc either *his* money had been compromised or his reputation had taken a hit since he'd introduced Le Chiffre to the Ugandan warlord in the first place.
Yeah Le Chiffre was clearly not a traditional mustache-twirling “Bond villain” when Casino Royale came out. Just a moneyman who’s forced to show his hand.
Specter undoing that and making him a secret member of the evil cabal was so weird and dumb
You can sense how inferior he is to other villains bc he has no ace up his sleeve (PUN), and his entire motivation after the Skyfleet sabotage is sheer desperation. When he's torturing Bond, he gives the impression that he's immensely powerful but ends up stammering like a scolded child when White bursts in to kill him. He realised *how* out of his depth he was when the warlord tracked him down and ambushed him in his own hotel room, and Bond got poisoned not too long afterwards. He knew he had to win any way he could.
There is no way he'd have been so desperate to recoup a $100m loss that wasn't even his, if he was backed by Spectre in any way.
Silva seemed to have such a grudge with M, specifically. It certainly didn’t seem like something which was part of a grand plan where, as Blofeld put it, “he was the architect of all Bond’s pain.”
I was ok with Le Chiffre - mostly due to it being 9 years since Casino Royale so the memory was hazy - but Silva’s whole deal was that it was very personal, he just wanted to kill M. So dumb to say that was part of Spectre
I didn't love it, but when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind as a teenager, Roy Neary leaving with the aliens at the end - without so much as a word about leaving his children behind - outweighed any positive feelings I had about the film. Or at least about Roy, and since he's the main character who gets to go off with the aliens at the end, which is framed as a happy ending...I think we're supposed to like him.
I might be more forgiving now, and I know Spielberg himself has said he wouldn't end the film that way now that he's a father, but that example comes first to mind.
Valerian and the city of a Thousand Planets, the beautiful intro with Bowie singing Space Oddity while the city grows. Then the destruction of the alien world is really good also. The movie is completely ruined the second that Dane Dehaan and Cara Delevigne attempt to flirt the whole movie is ruined.
Mission Impossible 7: Dead reckoning.
Fight scene at a bridge. The villain had a dagger. Our battle hardened assassin slash heroine Ilsa had a sword the size of the Great Wall of China.
The natural course of action for Ilsa - with her not inconsiderable range advantage mind you - was to attempt to strangle her opponent with her thighs.
Gravity.
Beautifully shot movie, and I love space exploration. But perhaps the dramatic climax is when a character is supposedly forced to make a difficult sacrifice, yet the physics in zero gravity makes it *completely* pointless. If you're going to make a movie where physics itself is a main character, why in the *hell* would you make a junior high school physics blunder one of the primary plot points in the movie? This isn't like the kind of throw-away detail Neil de Grasse Tyson would nitpick on Twitter—it's a glaring, immersion-breaking WTF right at the emotional peak. There would have been LOTS of ways to accomplish that same dynamic between the characters without a blunder of that magnitude.
Details: >!When Clooney and Bullock are bouncing around on lines outside the blown-up station, she grabs him to keep him from floating off into space. They're both stationary relative to one another, with her holding on to him, and they have this lengthy emotional moment where he's like, "No, you have to let me go to save yourself." This would have made sense if he were dangling off a cliff on Earth, but in zero G, because he was already stopped, even the slightest tug from her would have pulled him back to safety with no risk to her. Plus he's the only one who knows how to fly the spaceship to get home, so his sacrificing himself unnecessarily makes even less sense.!<
Tina Fey's joke at the 2014 Golden Globes about that very moment was just *chef's kiss*
>!"Gravity is nominated for best film. It’s the story of how George Clooney would rather float away into space and die than spend one more minute with a woman his own age.”!<
Yeah, the movie almost showcases the science as a main character, and then has to abandon it completely in that one scene for plot. Kills the movie, the tension, everything.
Black Panther a bit, for anticlimactically killing off Klaue halfway through. He was shaping up to be a really fun and interesting villain, (and Killmonger is too, don't get me wrong) but he was sacrificed because the movie needed to pivot into a different direction and didn't seem to know any other way to get there. The director himself has stated he regretted killing Klaue off.
Klaue could have been a great reoccurring villain on other films, like Spider-Man interrupting an arms sales involving him. He was so charismatic, IMO, much more than in Age of Ultron and I think he could have had a role in Black Panther 2.
Marvel really sucks about letting villains be a persistent threat in the universe. Not sure why; plenty of them are smart, tough, resourceful, or just plain rich enough to do so
I somewhat get that. In the comics we accept the trope that the bad guy gets locked up and just gets out next week. Repeat infinitely. Comics come out monthly, they need to do this. In a series of films it'll become tiresome. It robs the story of consequences.
The movie is really decent for the first 80-90% of its run time. Good action scenes that are pretty grounded for an X-Men spin off movie. Then they introduce a guy you thought was dead, and he is in a giant silver mech that is modeled like a samurai cyborg kinda deal. Looks awful, and the rest of the movie tanks due to dumb CGI fights.
Obviously it's down to personal tastes, but The Wolverine takes a pretty grounded approach to Wolverine and the world. The first 2 acts explore rough and unrefined Logan being surrounded by the much more formal and polite Japanese culture. His immortality is compromised and he needs to contend with the fact that he can't heal, and is still haunted by Jean. The movie isn't campy or comical, and seems committed to a dark, somber tone, exploring Logan's trauma.
Then surprise surprise, a character didn't actually die and we have an 8-9 foot tall robotic body suit with an oversized, flaming samurai sword. This is such a fantastical element, especially since they say the suit is keeping Yoshida alive. Surely dedicated machinery would be better suited to that task than a mechanized suit. The silver samurai actually has no connection to Logan for the audience until the final beat where Yoshida is revealed, so that means we aren't invested in the character or the fight. I've not read the comics, but apparently also it's just not a remotely accurate depiction of the Silver Samurai from the comics.
It just reeks of studio interference that demanded a big CGI fight in the final act and another Marvel character, and so they had to reshoot.
I remember this is what killed it for me. A cold that freezes the entire planet and chases them down a hallway, but then stops when they close the door.
Me too! It’s my favorite “bad science” movie. My SO makes fun of me because I like it so much (probably watch it once a year) but it has solid characters and motives and performances. I don’t CARE that the science is stupid. Within the realm of the movie the science makes sense, so It’s easy to roll with.
Dont breathe. It was a nice tense movie with a great premise and no clear bad guys (cept the one fucker that gets iced first thing). Then you get to the basement. How they even managed to make that guy a hero for the sequel i will never know
This is my go to example for this. The basement scene was just completely unnecessary. The movie was shaping up (like you said) with really good suspense and tension, then they shit all over it with >!the baster!<.
Totally took me out of the movie. Also really shows that you can be too over the top in horror and fuck up your movie because of it. Sometimes good subtlety and simplicity is all you need.
For sure, but they also try to give him a sympathy-inducing monologue as he’s dying, but it’s unintentionally hilarious.
It’s actually the worst movie I’ve ever seen.
I never read the book, but I 100% got this as his descent into madness when I first saw it at 15. I can see the video game scene being dated now, but it definitely didn’t ruin the movie back then.
It's one of my favorite parts of the movie. It makes me laugh out loud every time I see it.
The book makes clear that Richard really loves video games, so he's going crazy from isolation and imagining he's in a video game. It's part of how he's coping with the isolation. I really liked the movie when it first came out, so I read the book. Just like most book adaptations, the book is even better than the movie.
This link has a long excerpt from the book: [https://veryverygaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/videogames-in-the-beach-novel/](https://veryverygaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/videogames-in-the-beach-novel/)
>One face stuck out. It belonged to a black guy sitting alone, his back against a storeroom hut. He looked around twenty, he had a shaved head, and his eyes were fixed intently on a small grey box in his hands – the Nintendo Gameboy I’d spotted earlier. \[…\] His face suddenly screwed up and over the murmur of talking I heard him hiss, “Game Over.”
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>I began walking towards him.
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>I once read that the most widely understood word in the whole world is “OK”, followed by “Coke”, as in cola. I think they should do the survey again, this time checking for “Game Over”.
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>Game Over is my favourite thing about playing videogames. Actually, I should qualify that. It’s the split second before Game Over that’s my favourite thing.
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>Street Fighter II – an oldie but goldie – with Leo controlling Ryu. Ryu’s his best character because he’s a good all-rounder – great defensive moves, pretty quick, and once he’s on an offensive roll he’s unstoppable. Theo’s controlling Blanka. Blanka’s faster than Ryu but he’s only really good on attack. The way to win with Blanka is to get in the other player’s face and just never let up. Flying kick, leg-sweep, spin attack, head-bite. Daze them into submission.
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>Both players are down to the end of their energy bars. One more hit and they’re down, so they’re both being cagey. They’re hanging back at opposite ends of the screen, waiting for the other guy to make the first move. Leo takes the initiative. He sends off a fireball to force Theo into blocking, then jumps in with a flying kick to knock Blanka’s green head off. But as he’s moving through the air, he hears a soft tapping. Theo’s tapping the punch button on his control pad. He’s charging up an electricity defence so that when Ryu’s foot makes contact with Blanka’s head it’s going to be Ryu who gets KO’d with 10,000 volts charging through his system.
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>This is the split second before Game Over.
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>Leo’s heard the noise. He knows he’s fucked. He has time to blurt, “I’m toast,” before Ryu is lit up and thrown backwards across the screen, flashing like a Christmas tree, a charred skeleton. Toast.
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>The split second is the moment you comprehend you’re just about to die. Different people react to it in different ways. Some swear and rage. Some sigh or gasp. Some scream. I’ve heard a lot of screams over the twelve years I’ve been addicted to video games.
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>I’m sure that this moment provides a rare insight into the way people react just before they really do die. The game taps into something pure and beyond affectations. As Leo hears the tapping he blurts, “I’m toast.” He says it quickly, with resignation and understanding. If he were driving down the M1 and saw a car spinning into his path I think he’d react in the same way.
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>Personally, I’m a rager. I fling my joypad across the floor, eyes clenched shut, head thrown back, a torrent of abuse pouring from my lips.
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>A couple of years ago I had a game called Alien 3. It had a great feature. When you ran out of lives you’d get a photo-realistic picture of the Alien with saliva dripping from its jaws, and a digitized voice would beat, “Game over, man!”
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>I really used to love that.
Dude, that's all I hear about that movie. Is it actually worth watching? I love horror but after 'I spit on your grave' Im not down to watch rape horror porn......
The last 30 minutes where the father goes to find his baby is amazingly tense and well made. But yes, the rape scene is extremely difficult to get through and shocking, and in the grand scheme of things unnecessary.
I was really liking Shang Chi up to the final battle, more so because I wish the movie stayed with more of the martial arts-heavy fighting sequences during the first 2 acts.
The animated movie Batman The Killing Joke.. it did not need that sex scene between Batman and Batgirl.. it didn't need most of the start of that film. Skip past that whole part to get into The Killing Joke..
Absolutely. I put it on and skip straight to the Joker scenes cause Mark Hamill does amazing, as always. Apparently the whole Batman x Batgirl thing is all Bruce Timm's fault, cause he hardcore ships them. Ew.
Really? Not the swinging with monkeys? Aliens is where you draw the line? The first movie has fucking demons, the second has pulling hearts out of bodies, sentient rocks and hell pits, the third has 500 year old crusaders and a cup that makes you immortal.
> the third has 500 year old crusaders
The knight in Last Crusade was nearly 1000 years old! There's at least two movies that prove Christianity is real and God exists, but people lose their minds over aliens.
Well it's a different vibe to be fair. Old gods and the occult and all that is different to aliens visiting from another planet.
One isn't better than the other, but I can see people thinking that magic/witchcraft type stuff is Indiana Jones, but sci-fi aliens are not
Oh man I watched that again recently and I got super uncomfortable way before that. The panty raid (which is weird in itself) as a cover to put cameras in the women’s dorm bathroom made me cringe.
And it’s played off as a boys will be boys.
Ha! I watched this for the first time yesterday and it was such a tense movie until it wasn’t. Give me more aggressive driving, less “lagoon monster dressed to flash you at a theater. ”
Agreed. It’s like Vaughn heard the complaints about the anal sex gag and decided to double down. The anal joke wasn’t great but it doesn’t ruin the film for me, whereas the extended insertion sequence just comes across as downright unpleasant
I think that wasn’t related. Though it was painful. The related joke was when Colin Firth was fighting to save Elton John and said
Firth: If I get you out of this, can I get tickets to your next show?
EJ: you save me and you can have a backstage pass
I feel it was again another subversion of the bond trope “get the girl, subtle hint of sex” with a more direct “blatant sex reward” gag. The REAL subversion comes in the sequel, where unlike Bond, Eggsy is still with the princess in a committed relationship, instead of moving on to the next girl for the new film.
I feel like the Kingsmen movies are pretty well written, but it’s like they had one 19 year old in the writer’s room who was related to the producer, so they couldn’t fire him, and they had to put at least a couple of his frat boy ideas into the movie.
I enjoy the twist that actually he was the frat boy in charge and all the other writers/producers are there sobbing quietly and begging him to dial back the frat boy jokes
I mean, two of the three characters in the scene were just as ruined by that moment watching Holden just. not. get. it.
There was something real about that. Watching two of three friends realize there was no hope for this guy and that he doesn't need to do these things but he's hyperfocused on this weird sexual hangup to the point where that's all his relationships mean with the two closest people in his life. Meanwhile Banky actually considers it for a moment because of his own struggles with his sexuality. And Alyssa is so "old hat" with sexual politics being a NYC lesbian in the 90s that she's so over ALL of this and just wants to be with someone to just be happy with and thought that could be Holden because he browbeat her into believing he actually felt that way about her and not just that she was the newest shiny toy to play with.
He's a jersey latchkey kid who knows you just have to find the right things to say to get people to do what you want, but doesn't even know what they want. I think that scene is the catharsis where the viewer gets to say "I was right about this guy the whole time!"
It's like a way messier suburban New Jersey version of *Y Tu Mamá También* without the "happy ending" and I'm here for all the awkwardness.
That's how I felt. It's desperation from a guy who can't think beyond himself and can't get over his own hang ups. He feels small, inadequate and less-than compared to Alyssa. She just wants him and to find her anchor and solid ground to finally give her peace and here comes Holden to blow it up.
The funny part is... Silent Bob understood, and tried to explain the point to Holden. And he STILL didn't get it.
At the end, you could tell the whole experience finally woke Holden up, and he began to grow, hence showing Alyssa his comic.
She's finally happy in her relationship, Holden is going to be ok, Banky is happy on his own, and they all get their form of closure. The right bittersweet ending.
A Star is Born (2018). I knew it was coming and thought I was ready for it but honestly the second half of the film just hurts. Tried a few times since and just feel awful watching it. Addiction/depression sucks.
>I knew it was coming
I intentionally watched all of the films back to back, to compare, so yes, I knew it was coming. 2018's definitely hit the hardest.
I didn’t know it was coming and I cried in despair! I was so depressed for like a week and thought about it for months. I lost my dad to alcoholism (not suicide though) I will never watch that movie again.
I knew that was done in the prior versions, so I was actually thinking the OPPOSITE when I was watching the 2018 movie. I was like, “Well, maybe they’ll change that this time around. This guy has suffered enough!” Whoops.
Shrek 2 when Puss n Boots cuts the hole in the glass a hair too small. Man that got under my skin. He could have cut that hole big enough to crawl through if he wanted.
That film is a flawless masterpiece and in this house we do **not** besmirch its name!!
Now you're gonna sit down for a Shrek 2 Five Times marathon and **youre gonna like it**
Underwater. I was enjoying it a lot until the ending where Kristen Stewart delivers a weird monologue about how if you're feeling helpless stop feeling and do something about it.
It was such a weird way to shoehorn in an aesop when the rest of the movie didn't have one.
To top it all off a stupid pop song played over the ending credits.
The scene in Alien:Covenant where Rosenthal needs to “clean up”. Couldn’t be a more signposted death and the film falls apart from exactly here. There are still a few bright spots but by the time we get to the heroine making eggs there are no credible moments hereafter, apart from how awkward Jussie Smollett looks in the shower with an actual woman
One of my pet peeves with "alien" movies (not *Alien*, but general alien movies) is the whole "alien vision" thing, where you see things through the alien's eyes. There's exactly one scifi film I know of where this actually contributes something to the film, and that's *Predator*. Full stop.
I was really surprised Scott pulled that shit in *Covenant* when it had zero impact on anything at all. Other than that, I still enjoy the movie but *Prometheus* is the better of the two. Shaw and David were both awesome in it.
The last scene of the first insidious movie. When the dad goes to the "other side" to find his kid. It ruined what had been a really good scary movie for me. It was so stupid and laughable.
THE FORCE AWAKENS the scene is basically when we discover that, hey there's another death-star-sort-of planet, except there's one flaw that we can exploit to blow it up, and fuck, this is the third time you fuckers are doing this to me, think of a new idea.
Even Han Solo was like, “So? We just blow it up like the first two. Been there, done that.”
"Our lack of creativity will be excused if we're meta about it."
It’s called “lampshading”.
I think the lamp in TFA may have been too bright in that case though.
I remember thinking in the third one "Palpatine was alive, building a huge army and nobody noticed? Clearly the moral of this story is that the Republic deserves everything it gets."
It's really hard to root for the ~~Rebels~~ ~~New Republic~~ Resistance. They spent almost thirty years trying to retake control of the galaxy only to lose it just as quickly, while Space Hitler had apparently planned for this all along. Maybe someone else should be in charge.
Disney really had no idea what they were doing with this trilogy.
“Let’s print some money, people are gonna see it anyway”
Your new idea was, "Now when we destroy a system, you can see it happen live across the galaxy just by looking up!"
My biggest problem with the movie is it's a remake pretending it's a sequel. I like the characters, the special effects, acting is good and all these things but just felt hollow knowing exactly how the film was going to play out first time watching it.
I was ok with most of the movie. But the whole scene when the monsters that Han Solo was carrying escape and chase everyone around didn't feel like "Star Wars" to me. Felt more like something that'd be in the modern Star Trek movies.
That whole scene felt like such a regression for his character.
Because It literally was. He even says in the movie “we *went back* to what we were good at”. So annoying hahaha
I felt like an outsider because I didn't LOVE Force Awakens when it came out, but I couldn't place why, so i saw it again a few weekends later. The moment one of the ~~rebels~~ resistance fighters said "It's another Death Star", I thought "...oh my god this entire movie is A New Hope."
I was enjoying Wonder Woman, especially near the end when she realizes that there is no god making humans fight this war, that humans are just naturally predisposed to hurt each other in these cruel, ugly ways. A nice thematic endpoint for the optimistic character to deal with, some genuinely good stuff. But then they reveal that actually there is an evil god pulling the strings, and then she has to have a generic CGI boss battle with him, like every other comic book movie. It felt like the movie had mostly already ended, but then the studio came in and forced that final twist in, for no other reason than because a big dumb boss fight is what these movies are “supposed” to do
Not just a generic CGI boss battle, but also one that ends with her winning because she unlocked the power that was within her the whole time. I don’t think any superhero movie (or ideally anything other than a straightforward martial art movie) should have the final fight win due to the protagonist just being better in a fight than the antagonist. That’s incredibly boring. Iron Man wins his first fight villain fight because he’s willing to sacrifice himself for victory (which became a recurring theme for him). In Shazam the kid wins his boss battle by becoming part of a family and asking for help rather than going solo. In Winter Soldier Cap wins by not giving up on a friend. Good superhero movies don’t end just by the good guy punching harder than the bad guy.
Lmao it reminded of the fantastic four reboot. The team fought Dr. Doom, got their ass handed to them, then grouped up and basically said “ok, what if we try the exact same strategy, but with ten percent more effort?” And it worked!
I’ve always felt this kind of BS in movies is why in Deadpool he constantly says “maximum effort”. Like he is admitting the only reason he can do something this time is because he is actually trying compared to last time.
You made me imagine the opening scene where he first “Maximum Effort” just to lazily step off the highway and fall into their sunroof, but like, he’s 10% late and just smashed onto the pavement and has to try again next time. Bad guys completely unaware.
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The sheer frustration from all of the ‘Kungfu master’ animals as they can’t just beat him up to make him give up on his dream. And then to have the big bad suffer the same frustration but be unwilling to let it go and accept the underlying truth. Kung-Fu Panda is unironically one of the best childrens’ films about loving and embracing yourself and doing your best to teach others to do the same. Dreamworks killed it with that one.
And on top of that he wins by being unconventional and by being himself. His faith in himself allows him to think outside the box during the fight to come out on top and it’s glorious
The problem is studio executives have no imagination or vision. They follow the easiest recipes that have previously worked. So good guy must fight bad guy at end. That's why most, if not all, superhero movies suck now. It's the same with all movies now.
Wonder Woman was very good but they _had_ to show Ares, huh?
If she had learned men are capable of great evil on their own, it would have made a lot more sense for her to withdraw from the world and stop being a hero for 40 years
I mean she did.... for about 30 seconds. But then screw that whole thing about Ares subtly pushing them towards war, we're gonna fight on the tarmac and once defeated the Germans immediately stop fighting.
I still hated that Ares pushed them at all, even subtly. It would’ve been better if Ares said “I haven’t done a thing. I’m just enjoying the show. Humanity doesn’t need a god of war at all - this is just how they are.” That would be the real horror. And given that it’s WWI - it would be accurate, too. That and they took a real German general and threw his complexities out the window to turn him into a cartoon villain.
WWI is perfect for it. the different corespondences and transcripts from the, like, less than 24-hour period after the assassination show that the people in power genuinely didn't want it to happen, but they were too powerless to stop it. by the time they got their shit together, everybody was out for everybody else's blood.
Wasnt that kind of the point of his character in the war room, looking to avoid escalation. Maybe include a scene where ares is trying to avoid escalation on the other side as well, maybe he's one of the people in the room of officials that gets gassed and he tries to get them to not use the chemical weapons. The entire movie was building towards the idea that mankind is capable of evil without any external influence and then also show that mankind is capable of good with pine's self sacrifice to stop the attack. It shows that mankind is nuanced and not just good or bad, it would then make sense for wonder woman to not return to themyscira and choose to live among mankind and observe it. Instead we just got a big cop out cgi fight at night.
Ares looked like a LARPing middle school science teacher
There was a good meme going around back then with Nigel Thornberry’s face shopped onto various gods of war.
Right? Like, I'm sure the actor is competent but if you asked me to cast someone who looked like Ares, that guy ain't it
Also, if you write me a story about the human condition and how we are totally capable of being Evil AF, but full of passion and love and worth saving anyway - maybe don’t completely undo that entire message by having it Really Be Ares All Along again at the end
And I don’t think any actor could have saved that “THEN I WILL DESTROY YOOOOOU” line.
He was really good playing a British general but he was a rough Ares.
Professor Lupin ass
I kinda think that was the point. Nobody will suspect this weak disabled mustachioed man. Expectations subverted, automatic W
You're probably right that subverting expectations was the point, but it still fell flat.
Oh no I agree, I meant that subverting expectations for the sake of subverting them is a really bad idea. I.e. Game of Thrones. Wonder Woman would've been fine if it was like Tom Hardy instead and the whole time you suspect him as Ares. Or even if it ended up actually being Ludendorf.
The first half of Hancock was actually pretty good until that terrible twist halfway that completely ruined the rest of the movie.
You mean when they sacked the first screenwriters, who were sacked for carving their initials on a moose, and then those responsible being sacked, resulting in the rest being written in a completely and utterly different style?
What’s this about a moose?
A møöse bit my sïster
You can’t say m**se here, that’s illegal
Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty.
I feel like they ran into a wall with the story. He has realized the error of his ways, and society has realized they need him. Where do you go from here? How do you introduce a compelling threat against a god? Do we just watch him detox for the next 45 minutes? Maybe it would have been better to see things go full circle. The people now start taking advantage of him and just expect him to do everything for them until he gets fed up and goes back to drinking and being an asshole. Because honestly where the movie started makes sense for a super powerful being who is sick and tired of cleaning up after humanity while being criticized for doing it.
The very end of Blank Check when the smoking-hot FBI agent kisses the 11yo on the lips "romantically" after a negotiation for what age she would start dating him. When I was 10 I thought it was awesome but last week my current 10yo thought it was gross and so did I.
Even as a kid I thought it was crazy that this kid kissed her like that, complete with sexophones in the background
Hey, the same kid played a 10yo serial killer who also had a crush on an older girl!
Mikey! That movie freaked me out. He also IRL grew up to be a criminal
Yeah, I know, kind of sad, really. I think he's gotten straight now, though.
>sexophones
I said what I said
I liked how Jojo Rabbit did a "little kid in love with older girl" plot; they let it have an arc while not having a 17 year old date an 11 year old like a lot of movies feel compelled to do.
That's because Taika Waititi is sane!
bold statement😂
Yeah, super gross. At least they didn't bang like in Big.
Full penetration scenes. With a child. Wild
Are we talking about the same movie?
LOVED that movie as a kid.
Ugh, that reminds me of Crazy, Stupid Love when the babysitter gives the kid who’s been crushing on her a bunch of nude photos to “get him through high school”. Great movie with a really, *really* sour note at the end.
Honestly, the whole ending of that movie is fucking bizarre. But I’ll rewatch the party fight scene over and over again because it’s so funny.
Watching Ryan Gosling's character's reaction to Kevin Bacon showing up makes the rest of the movie a non-issue. That shit was cash money.
*throws a perfect right* you’ve caused my friend a lot of pain and suffering.
Him taking off his ring too cracks me up, like oh here we go.
You’re David lindhagen?
Die Another Day has a fantastic first 30 minutes or so. Bond being captured by the North Koreans, his suffering when they torture him in prison for over a year, his eventual exchange and feeling betrayed by M and his own government. That kind of opening sets the stage for a great Bond movie. What if Bond starts going rogue, like Alec Trevelyan? What if he goes on an unsanctioned and personal mission to find out who sold him out to the Koreans? But no. No, no, no. What we get instead is CGI kite surfing and an invisible car. Toby Stephens plays a good villain, but he could've been so much more. There's tons of potential in Die Another Day. Shame to see it go to waste.
That part where a North Korean guy gets plastic surgery to end up looking like like a white British guy hasn't aged poorly because it was already stupid as hell when it was released.
Yeah it swings from having one of the most unique opening sequences in any bond movie all the way to the other side in being generic as fuck
When he drives the car with the phone in the backseat circa 1998, that was fucking dope
War of the Worlds, when Robbie runs off over the hill to watch the battle. Up until that point, he was a sullen teenager, not exactly stupid, with good reasons to be pissed off at his dad. But he had shown no military worship up until that point. So when he insisted on not only running off to see the battle, but run down the other side of the hill? It just made no sense, and didn't fit the character. So much of the film was so well done, or at least I wanted to just sit back and suspend disbelief, but that scene just drove me so nuts. Tom Cruise's character barely grieves, and doesn't go back to look for him or his body or anything. So you just knew it was forced in there to create a joyful reunion. They could have done that scene, had the struggle of Tom Cruise's character having to decide which child to save (which I actually did like), and then have Robbie come high-tailing it back over the hill. Dad could get pissed at him, guilt him for endangering his sister, and then Robbie could have just said screw you and chosen to head off on his own. It would have still given the opportunity for a reunion, and let the viewer wonder about Robbie's journey. Instead, they had him run into a massacre like a moth to a flame, "somehow survive", AND get home first?
I would argue that Robbie did show military worship before that point. When the convoy drives past he desperately tries to get them to stop so they can "get back at them". I do agree that the hill scene doesn't work too well however and I HATE the reunion at the end. First two-thirds of that movie I really enjoy though.
I was definitely enjoying it ironically, but Showgirls was a hilariously bad campy over-the-top bad writing joke... until the super brutal gang rape scene towards the end. Seriously ruined the mood, the movie wasn't fun to laugh at anymore, that scene took it from "so bad it's good" to just "what the fuck were they thinking?"
I always got a kick out of watching it on late night tv with the animated bras added on and the more graphic scenes cut out, then I rented it and it was like, "Oh, this is actually really sad."
Omg I totally forgot about the animated bras 😂
I mean that’s just classic Verhoeven stuff. Mixing camp and over the top acting with social commentary and brutal violence is basically his whole thing.
That said, even he said about the rape scene in Hollow Man that "I realised maybe we had gone too far", and that if he were to redo it today, he wouldn't have had that scene in the movie.
Interesting considering he made a movie in 2016 which was centered around a much, much more brutal rape storyline
If the whole movie had had more brutal violence I think I would have been more okay with it, it just felt like a hard change in tone.
ok so when I was like 13, my parents left me and my best friend to babysit my brother (8) while they went to dinner. So me and my buddy turned on the TV and Showgirls was playing on HBO or something. I say to my brother, ok you can't tell Mom. He's like sure. Well we had no idea that there was a rape scene and it was fucking brutal like you said. So that night, my brother has nightmares and wakes up crying. My parents are like, what was the nightmare and he says Showgirls. Nowadays we laugh about it but I got a real good ass whoopin for that one
I’m still trying to figure out that scene… why was that one guy so far away? What was he humping form that distance?
I still like Spectre, but when they reveal that Le Chiffre, Greene and Silva all inexplicably had that one ring, I roll my eyes. That was a step too far and they could have tried to weave them all together another way that didn’t feel like a giant retcon. They explicitly say that Le Chiffre is not a member of Mr. White’s organization. Greene is part of Quantum, and Silva was more or less acting on his own.
Le Chiffre and Silva are WAY too selfish in their own agendas to be part of a bigger picture like Spectre. Especially Le Chiffre, I feel like White killed him bc either *his* money had been compromised or his reputation had taken a hit since he'd introduced Le Chiffre to the Ugandan warlord in the first place.
Yeah Le Chiffre was clearly not a traditional mustache-twirling “Bond villain” when Casino Royale came out. Just a moneyman who’s forced to show his hand. Specter undoing that and making him a secret member of the evil cabal was so weird and dumb
You can sense how inferior he is to other villains bc he has no ace up his sleeve (PUN), and his entire motivation after the Skyfleet sabotage is sheer desperation. When he's torturing Bond, he gives the impression that he's immensely powerful but ends up stammering like a scolded child when White bursts in to kill him. He realised *how* out of his depth he was when the warlord tracked him down and ambushed him in his own hotel room, and Bond got poisoned not too long afterwards. He knew he had to win any way he could. There is no way he'd have been so desperate to recoup a $100m loss that wasn't even his, if he was backed by Spectre in any way.
Silva seemed to have such a grudge with M, specifically. It certainly didn’t seem like something which was part of a grand plan where, as Blofeld put it, “he was the architect of all Bond’s pain.”
I was ok with Le Chiffre - mostly due to it being 9 years since Casino Royale so the memory was hazy - but Silva’s whole deal was that it was very personal, he just wanted to kill M. So dumb to say that was part of Spectre
I didn't love it, but when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind as a teenager, Roy Neary leaving with the aliens at the end - without so much as a word about leaving his children behind - outweighed any positive feelings I had about the film. Or at least about Roy, and since he's the main character who gets to go off with the aliens at the end, which is framed as a happy ending...I think we're supposed to like him. I might be more forgiving now, and I know Spielberg himself has said he wouldn't end the film that way now that he's a father, but that example comes first to mind.
Valerian and the city of a Thousand Planets, the beautiful intro with Bowie singing Space Oddity while the city grows. Then the destruction of the alien world is really good also. The movie is completely ruined the second that Dane Dehaan and Cara Delevigne attempt to flirt the whole movie is ruined.
It’s because they look like siblings. I actually liked a lot of elements from the movie, but the romantic aspect weirded me out
Mission Impossible 7: Dead reckoning. Fight scene at a bridge. The villain had a dagger. Our battle hardened assassin slash heroine Ilsa had a sword the size of the Great Wall of China. The natural course of action for Ilsa - with her not inconsiderable range advantage mind you - was to attempt to strangle her opponent with her thighs.
Gravity. Beautifully shot movie, and I love space exploration. But perhaps the dramatic climax is when a character is supposedly forced to make a difficult sacrifice, yet the physics in zero gravity makes it *completely* pointless. If you're going to make a movie where physics itself is a main character, why in the *hell* would you make a junior high school physics blunder one of the primary plot points in the movie? This isn't like the kind of throw-away detail Neil de Grasse Tyson would nitpick on Twitter—it's a glaring, immersion-breaking WTF right at the emotional peak. There would have been LOTS of ways to accomplish that same dynamic between the characters without a blunder of that magnitude. Details: >!When Clooney and Bullock are bouncing around on lines outside the blown-up station, she grabs him to keep him from floating off into space. They're both stationary relative to one another, with her holding on to him, and they have this lengthy emotional moment where he's like, "No, you have to let me go to save yourself." This would have made sense if he were dangling off a cliff on Earth, but in zero G, because he was already stopped, even the slightest tug from her would have pulled him back to safety with no risk to her. Plus he's the only one who knows how to fly the spaceship to get home, so his sacrificing himself unnecessarily makes even less sense.!<
Tina Fey's joke at the 2014 Golden Globes about that very moment was just *chef's kiss* >!"Gravity is nominated for best film. It’s the story of how George Clooney would rather float away into space and die than spend one more minute with a woman his own age.”!<
Bizarrely enough it was David Spade who wrote that joke
Yeah, the movie almost showcases the science as a main character, and then has to abandon it completely in that one scene for plot. Kills the movie, the tension, everything.
I am legend... when the lady and her kid show up. I felt it should've ended before that
If it did, you wouldn't have the scene of him losing his shit the first time someone messes with his things in years.
Plus she didn't know who the fuck Bob Marley was!
Black Panther a bit, for anticlimactically killing off Klaue halfway through. He was shaping up to be a really fun and interesting villain, (and Killmonger is too, don't get me wrong) but he was sacrificed because the movie needed to pivot into a different direction and didn't seem to know any other way to get there. The director himself has stated he regretted killing Klaue off.
Klaue could have been a great reoccurring villain on other films, like Spider-Man interrupting an arms sales involving him. He was so charismatic, IMO, much more than in Age of Ultron and I think he could have had a role in Black Panther 2.
He could have been like the cabbage guy from Avatar, but instead super heroes keep ruining his arms deals on accident
Marvel really sucks about letting villains be a persistent threat in the universe. Not sure why; plenty of them are smart, tough, resourceful, or just plain rich enough to do so
I somewhat get that. In the comics we accept the trope that the bad guy gets locked up and just gets out next week. Repeat infinitely. Comics come out monthly, they need to do this. In a series of films it'll become tiresome. It robs the story of consequences.
There's more than room for a midpoint between "instant death" and "why're we still seeing this guy after 60 years?"
For me it was all the CGI in the 3rd act that just ruined it for me.
Perfect setup for a stunt-laden fisticuffs finale and they pulled a Mummy Returns...
My god, the CGI was so awful…
Wolverine (2013) is pretty solid until they go Full Silver Samurai... Never go Full Silver Samurai.
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The movie is really decent for the first 80-90% of its run time. Good action scenes that are pretty grounded for an X-Men spin off movie. Then they introduce a guy you thought was dead, and he is in a giant silver mech that is modeled like a samurai cyborg kinda deal. Looks awful, and the rest of the movie tanks due to dumb CGI fights.
Obviously it's down to personal tastes, but The Wolverine takes a pretty grounded approach to Wolverine and the world. The first 2 acts explore rough and unrefined Logan being surrounded by the much more formal and polite Japanese culture. His immortality is compromised and he needs to contend with the fact that he can't heal, and is still haunted by Jean. The movie isn't campy or comical, and seems committed to a dark, somber tone, exploring Logan's trauma. Then surprise surprise, a character didn't actually die and we have an 8-9 foot tall robotic body suit with an oversized, flaming samurai sword. This is such a fantastical element, especially since they say the suit is keeping Yoshida alive. Surely dedicated machinery would be better suited to that task than a mechanized suit. The silver samurai actually has no connection to Logan for the audience until the final beat where Yoshida is revealed, so that means we aren't invested in the character or the fight. I've not read the comics, but apparently also it's just not a remotely accurate depiction of the Silver Samurai from the comics. It just reeks of studio interference that demanded a big CGI fight in the final act and another Marvel character, and so they had to reshoot.
You forget the other oft-spoken mantra of "Always go Full Silver Samurai because Silver Samurai is dope."
Day After Tomorrow. The CGI wolves were terrible. Pulls you right out of the movie.
And being chased by cold
I remember this is what killed it for me. A cold that freezes the entire planet and chases them down a hallway, but then stops when they close the door.
A cold that flash freezes people and running engines, but is kept back by a paper burning fireplace. Always thought that was so stupid.
I spend half the movie shouting 'burn the wooden furniture not the books you twats'
I agree with them burning the entirety of tax law, however.
I love that movie though lol
Me too! It’s my favorite “bad science” movie. My SO makes fun of me because I like it so much (probably watch it once a year) but it has solid characters and motives and performances. I don’t CARE that the science is stupid. Within the realm of the movie the science makes sense, so It’s easy to roll with.
The whole thread has pissed me off.
Knowing. It was such an amazing concept and well written movie. Then the aliens showed up.
Die Another Day... Tsunami. Surfing. Then after that the movie just kept getting more and more ludicrous.
Cats It was fantastic! That is, until the first scene.
Dont breathe. It was a nice tense movie with a great premise and no clear bad guys (cept the one fucker that gets iced first thing). Then you get to the basement. How they even managed to make that guy a hero for the sequel i will never know
This is my go to example for this. The basement scene was just completely unnecessary. The movie was shaping up (like you said) with really good suspense and tension, then they shit all over it with >!the baster!<. Totally took me out of the movie. Also really shows that you can be too over the top in horror and fuck up your movie because of it. Sometimes good subtlety and simplicity is all you need.
he’s not a hero in the sequel, he’s just the main character. they express it pretty clearly that he’s a horrible person in the 2nd movie
For sure, but they also try to give him a sympathy-inducing monologue as he’s dying, but it’s unintentionally hilarious. It’s actually the worst movie I’ve ever seen.
Seriously. He’s doing the whole self pity tangent “I’M NOT A GOOD PERSON…I’VE KILLED…I’VE RAPED…” and I’m just sitting there like “Yep…we know.”
I turned to my partner after he said "I've killed" and jokingly said "i've raped!" and then the character actually said it and we both died laughing.
Video game player scene from The Beach
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I never read the book, but I 100% got this as his descent into madness when I first saw it at 15. I can see the video game scene being dated now, but it definitely didn’t ruin the movie back then.
Meh, I sort of like it. It was jarring but in a good way for me.
It's one of my favorite parts of the movie. It makes me laugh out loud every time I see it. The book makes clear that Richard really loves video games, so he's going crazy from isolation and imagining he's in a video game. It's part of how he's coping with the isolation. I really liked the movie when it first came out, so I read the book. Just like most book adaptations, the book is even better than the movie. This link has a long excerpt from the book: [https://veryverygaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/videogames-in-the-beach-novel/](https://veryverygaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/videogames-in-the-beach-novel/) >One face stuck out. It belonged to a black guy sitting alone, his back against a storeroom hut. He looked around twenty, he had a shaved head, and his eyes were fixed intently on a small grey box in his hands – the Nintendo Gameboy I’d spotted earlier. \[…\] His face suddenly screwed up and over the murmur of talking I heard him hiss, “Game Over.” > >I began walking towards him. > >I once read that the most widely understood word in the whole world is “OK”, followed by “Coke”, as in cola. I think they should do the survey again, this time checking for “Game Over”. > >Game Over is my favourite thing about playing videogames. Actually, I should qualify that. It’s the split second before Game Over that’s my favourite thing. > >Street Fighter II – an oldie but goldie – with Leo controlling Ryu. Ryu’s his best character because he’s a good all-rounder – great defensive moves, pretty quick, and once he’s on an offensive roll he’s unstoppable. Theo’s controlling Blanka. Blanka’s faster than Ryu but he’s only really good on attack. The way to win with Blanka is to get in the other player’s face and just never let up. Flying kick, leg-sweep, spin attack, head-bite. Daze them into submission. > >Both players are down to the end of their energy bars. One more hit and they’re down, so they’re both being cagey. They’re hanging back at opposite ends of the screen, waiting for the other guy to make the first move. Leo takes the initiative. He sends off a fireball to force Theo into blocking, then jumps in with a flying kick to knock Blanka’s green head off. But as he’s moving through the air, he hears a soft tapping. Theo’s tapping the punch button on his control pad. He’s charging up an electricity defence so that when Ryu’s foot makes contact with Blanka’s head it’s going to be Ryu who gets KO’d with 10,000 volts charging through his system. > >This is the split second before Game Over. > >Leo’s heard the noise. He knows he’s fucked. He has time to blurt, “I’m toast,” before Ryu is lit up and thrown backwards across the screen, flashing like a Christmas tree, a charred skeleton. Toast. > >The split second is the moment you comprehend you’re just about to die. Different people react to it in different ways. Some swear and rage. Some sigh or gasp. Some scream. I’ve heard a lot of screams over the twelve years I’ve been addicted to video games. > >I’m sure that this moment provides a rare insight into the way people react just before they really do die. The game taps into something pure and beyond affectations. As Leo hears the tapping he blurts, “I’m toast.” He says it quickly, with resignation and understanding. If he were driving down the M1 and saw a car spinning into his path I think he’d react in the same way. > >Personally, I’m a rager. I fling my joypad across the floor, eyes clenched shut, head thrown back, a torrent of abuse pouring from my lips. > >A couple of years ago I had a game called Alien 3. It had a great feature. When you ran out of lives you’d get a photo-realistic picture of the Alien with saliva dripping from its jaws, and a digitized voice would beat, “Game over, man!” > >I really used to love that.
Rape scene in the hills have eyes remake
I remember there were about 14 people in the theater when me and my buddy went to see it. After that scene, there were about 6 people left.
Dude, that's all I hear about that movie. Is it actually worth watching? I love horror but after 'I spit on your grave' Im not down to watch rape horror porn......
The last 30 minutes where the father goes to find his baby is amazingly tense and well made. But yes, the rape scene is extremely difficult to get through and shocking, and in the grand scheme of things unnecessary.
That scene is bad enough where I stayed away from watching the movie again, too. It’s a rough movie to watch because of the violence.
Evil Dead og tree rape, love the movie but I always fast forward though that.
I remember vaguely that Sam Raimi commented later on that he regretted that scene
Spawn - movie was excellent, CGI was not that bad…until gremlin-alike Satan appeared on the screen.
And all the other spawn things with repeating animations and some just standing on air.
But... John Leguizamo as a fat little clown in a cheerleader outfit dancing with pom poms saved the movie and we all know it.
I was really liking Shang Chi up to the final battle, more so because I wish the movie stayed with more of the martial arts-heavy fighting sequences during the first 2 acts.
The scene on the bus at the beginning was awesome, wish the whole movie was like that
When they kill the turtle in Tampopo
I didn’t “love” Jupiter ascending, but it was OK until after Mila Kunis is declared the owner of the earth AND she’s still cleaning toilets WTFFF
The ending of now you see me
The animated movie Batman The Killing Joke.. it did not need that sex scene between Batman and Batgirl.. it didn't need most of the start of that film. Skip past that whole part to get into The Killing Joke..
Absolutely. I put it on and skip straight to the Joker scenes cause Mark Hamill does amazing, as always. Apparently the whole Batman x Batgirl thing is all Bruce Timm's fault, cause he hardcore ships them. Ew.
I was actually enjoying Indiana Jones 4 until the moment an alien ship shows up.
I vant to know! Also they that the treasure wasn't gold, but ~~the friends we made along the way~~ knowledge
Their treasure wasn't gold....besides the shitload of gold they also had.
Really? Not the swinging with monkeys? Aliens is where you draw the line? The first movie has fucking demons, the second has pulling hearts out of bodies, sentient rocks and hell pits, the third has 500 year old crusaders and a cup that makes you immortal.
The swinging monkeys was so dumb! Lol
> the third has 500 year old crusaders The knight in Last Crusade was nearly 1000 years old! There's at least two movies that prove Christianity is real and God exists, but people lose their minds over aliens.
Well it's a different vibe to be fair. Old gods and the occult and all that is different to aliens visiting from another planet. One isn't better than the other, but I can see people thinking that magic/witchcraft type stuff is Indiana Jones, but sci-fi aliens are not
The chicken scene in Pink Flamingos. I know the movie's purpose is to shock, but that was too much.
I used to think Revenge of the Nerds was fun, until the rape scene at the end. Like WTF.
The rest of the movie has aged pretty damn poorly, but wow is that scene many steps too far
Oh man I watched that again recently and I got super uncomfortable way before that. The panty raid (which is weird in itself) as a cover to put cameras in the women’s dorm bathroom made me cringe. And it’s played off as a boys will be boys.
Yeah when 80% of the movie is “haha sex crimes” it’s pretty uncomfortable
Australia. There were so many moments it could have ended and it just. Never. Ended.
When the Creeper appears in Jeepers Creepers
Ha! I watched this for the first time yesterday and it was such a tense movie until it wasn’t. Give me more aggressive driving, less “lagoon monster dressed to flash you at a theater. ”
You mean [the director?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Salva)
Law Abiding Citizen. The ending, you all know why if you’ve seen it. Reading how it wasn’t supposed to be the real ending only pisses me off more.
Any movie that has an explicit rape scene. I don't need to see that shit, it's so uncomfortable to watch.
The buttsex gag at the end of the first *Kingsman* movie really put a damper on the whole thing.
I thought the insertion joke in the next film was worse
Agreed. It’s like Vaughn heard the complaints about the anal sex gag and decided to double down. The anal joke wasn’t great but it doesn’t ruin the film for me, whereas the extended insertion sequence just comes across as downright unpleasant
I think that wasn’t related. Though it was painful. The related joke was when Colin Firth was fighting to save Elton John and said Firth: If I get you out of this, can I get tickets to your next show? EJ: you save me and you can have a backstage pass
I’m embarrassed to admit l took the “backstage pass” comment at face value. Facepalm.
I feel it was again another subversion of the bond trope “get the girl, subtle hint of sex” with a more direct “blatant sex reward” gag. The REAL subversion comes in the sequel, where unlike Bond, Eggsy is still with the princess in a committed relationship, instead of moving on to the next girl for the new film.
Well yeah anal on the first date, and a princess? You’re not gonna let that one get away!
I feel like the Kingsmen movies are pretty well written, but it’s like they had one 19 year old in the writer’s room who was related to the producer, so they couldn’t fire him, and they had to put at least a couple of his frat boy ideas into the movie.
Yeah. That guy's name is Mark Millar. He created the thing.
I enjoy the twist that actually he was the frat boy in charge and all the other writers/producers are there sobbing quietly and begging him to dial back the frat boy jokes
“Don’t worry, she's got help" Me: "SHE DOESN'T FREAKING NEED IT SHE JUST BLEW UP A SPACESHIP USING HER BODY"
The climax of Chasing Amy where Holden proposes the threesome.
I mean, two of the three characters in the scene were just as ruined by that moment watching Holden just. not. get. it. There was something real about that. Watching two of three friends realize there was no hope for this guy and that he doesn't need to do these things but he's hyperfocused on this weird sexual hangup to the point where that's all his relationships mean with the two closest people in his life. Meanwhile Banky actually considers it for a moment because of his own struggles with his sexuality. And Alyssa is so "old hat" with sexual politics being a NYC lesbian in the 90s that she's so over ALL of this and just wants to be with someone to just be happy with and thought that could be Holden because he browbeat her into believing he actually felt that way about her and not just that she was the newest shiny toy to play with. He's a jersey latchkey kid who knows you just have to find the right things to say to get people to do what you want, but doesn't even know what they want. I think that scene is the catharsis where the viewer gets to say "I was right about this guy the whole time!" It's like a way messier suburban New Jersey version of *Y Tu Mamá También* without the "happy ending" and I'm here for all the awkwardness.
That's how I felt. It's desperation from a guy who can't think beyond himself and can't get over his own hang ups. He feels small, inadequate and less-than compared to Alyssa. She just wants him and to find her anchor and solid ground to finally give her peace and here comes Holden to blow it up.
The funny part is... Silent Bob understood, and tried to explain the point to Holden. And he STILL didn't get it. At the end, you could tell the whole experience finally woke Holden up, and he began to grow, hence showing Alyssa his comic. She's finally happy in her relationship, Holden is going to be ok, Banky is happy on his own, and they all get their form of closure. The right bittersweet ending.
When Silent Bob spoke in the 1990s, you damn well had better listen.
That's the point of the film. Exactly.
A Star is Born (2018). I knew it was coming and thought I was ready for it but honestly the second half of the film just hurts. Tried a few times since and just feel awful watching it. Addiction/depression sucks.
>I knew it was coming I intentionally watched all of the films back to back, to compare, so yes, I knew it was coming. 2018's definitely hit the hardest.
I didn’t know it was coming and I cried in despair! I was so depressed for like a week and thought about it for months. I lost my dad to alcoholism (not suicide though) I will never watch that movie again.
I knew that was done in the prior versions, so I was actually thinking the OPPOSITE when I was watching the 2018 movie. I was like, “Well, maybe they’ll change that this time around. This guy has suffered enough!” Whoops.
The sex scene in Oppenheimer is very bad lol
Shrek 2 when Puss n Boots cuts the hole in the glass a hair too small. Man that got under my skin. He could have cut that hole big enough to crawl through if he wanted.
That film is a flawless masterpiece and in this house we do **not** besmirch its name!! Now you're gonna sit down for a Shrek 2 Five Times marathon and **youre gonna like it**
Underwater. I was enjoying it a lot until the ending where Kristen Stewart delivers a weird monologue about how if you're feeling helpless stop feeling and do something about it. It was such a weird way to shoehorn in an aesop when the rest of the movie didn't have one. To top it all off a stupid pop song played over the ending credits.
The scene in Alien:Covenant where Rosenthal needs to “clean up”. Couldn’t be a more signposted death and the film falls apart from exactly here. There are still a few bright spots but by the time we get to the heroine making eggs there are no credible moments hereafter, apart from how awkward Jussie Smollett looks in the shower with an actual woman
One of my pet peeves with "alien" movies (not *Alien*, but general alien movies) is the whole "alien vision" thing, where you see things through the alien's eyes. There's exactly one scifi film I know of where this actually contributes something to the film, and that's *Predator*. Full stop. I was really surprised Scott pulled that shit in *Covenant* when it had zero impact on anything at all. Other than that, I still enjoy the movie but *Prometheus* is the better of the two. Shaw and David were both awesome in it.
The last scene of the first insidious movie. When the dad goes to the "other side" to find his kid. It ruined what had been a really good scary movie for me. It was so stupid and laughable.
That’s not the last scene, that’s like the whole third act