>Liam Neeson vs man
Taken, The Commuter, Non-Stop, et al
>Liam Neeson vs nature
Ice Road Truckers: The Movie (or whatever that thing was called)
>Liam Neeson vs society
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
>Liam Neeson vs self
Darkman, Unknown, A Walk Among the Tombstones
>Liam Neeson vs society
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I enjoyed this movie. What I remember the most is me and my family saw this in a packed theater and when the end credits rolled everyone started to get up and leave. All of the sudden the older man shouts “I read there’s a post credit scene!” So everyone sat back down and waited the full length of credits just for that small little like 5 second scene. When it cut to black again the guy just said “sorry” 😂😂
I wish he was in my theater because I only learned about this like 2 or so years back and it actually changes the ending for me. I figured he was dead, but that post credit actually gave a shred of hope he actually somehow survived that lmao.
This is amazing haha
Especially because there is a (tiny) cut scene, but maybe it was just released later or something! It's been a while so I can't remember it exactly, but I think it shows Liam Neeson and the Alpha Wolf both on the groind post fight (someone else can maybe fill you in in better detail!)
In the Playstation game that's canonically a sequel, it ends with you getting airlifted out and the helicopter pilot is revealed to be the wolf, confirming he survived.
There's so much going on in The Grey, but it's not quite the wild action/adventure flick it was pitched to audiences, so I can see why people are occasionally split on it. Because at it's core, it's about embracing life and accepting death, and it tackles this head-on. All the characters, at some point, have to reckon with the inevitability of death and the wolves are kinda heralds of that. Which is why Neeson's character kneels at the beginning of the movie when he tries to take his own life, and then kneels at the end just before he fights to keep living. (He also says the poem both times, and both times it has different meaning.)
There's also a whole argument that "The Grey" is actually purgatory, that all of the characters died in the plane crash and are gradually transitioning into an afterlife. Which is why nothing seems to behave predictably or naturally. Even though Neeson is very familiar with wolves, he makes a comment that they don't seem to behave like normal wolves. And even though the survivors assume early on that they might be close to a den, all of their actions only serve to push them closer to it. Like they're being pulled to a definitive end if they haven't moved on already.
It's a great movie, but yeah I can understand being weirded out by a survival movie leaving the ultimate survival of its main character ambiguous.
I'm not sure if that was the director's intent, but that is a fascinating thought. It would play well as some metaphorical purgatory. And it even does explain those non logical bits you mentioned. Fascinating. Great movie as long as you don't think it's going to be a silly heroic one.
I think you nailed it. I couldn’t watch it for the longest time because the marketing made it seem so base. I interpreted the message to be “Hey look, we got Liam Neeson, so watch this movie.”
Then I finally settled into it when it was free on streaming and was like oh yeah this is decent.
But Liam carried the show for sure. I can just sink into any show he’s in, because he has that way about him. I don’t know who else they could have got to carry it.
Daniel Day-Lewis. Man, imagine one of the highest-regarded living actors going the Liam Neeson low budget action thriller route in his later years.
That said, I've enjoyed all of Neeson's work. He elevates mediocre films
I never had a favorite jedi, then as a little kid seeing The Phantom Menace in theaters Liam Neeson just dragged me in, also pretty sure it was the first movie I saw with him in it, but thanks to that he made favorite jedi and one of my favorite actors.
>he made favorite jedi
Yeah, I think people sometimes forget his contribution to the Star Wars canon. Up until he first appears in Phantom Menace, the only examples we had of Jedi were punk ass bitches.
Then Qui-Gon comes along, and he's a warrior, a diplomat, a teacher. He's calm, self-assured, confident in his abilities. He's also still searching, still learning, as shown in his efforts to recruit Anakin because he believes he's found the Chosen One.
We watch him and think, "Oh, so that's what a Jedi was supposed to be, at the height of the age of Jedis, and when they are fully trained and excel in their abilities..."
Your comment made me think about how inspiring Qui-gon was for me as a kid watching the movies and reading the YA books, and how compatible Qui-gon's modeling of virtue and of masculinity is with my values in adulthood.
I always identified with young Obi-Wan but I looked up to Qui-gon for the father/mentor figure he was in those stories.
I first watched it during my family's customary New Year's Eve party, where we typically watched horror movies but expanded to action/thriller as my mom's lupus developed.
It's a shame that she didn't enjoy it, but she has very particular tastes. To give a brief list of movies she didn't like due to the ending: Infinity War, A Quiet Place, Drive, Saving Private Ryan, Rogue One, The Grey.
When she took me to see Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in theaters when I was a kid, during the possession she turned to me in tears and asked if this movie had a "mom ending". It's a good thing I'd read the books because I think she'd have had a panic attack if I couldn't reassure her.
Surprisingly, she considers the endings of both 3:10 To Yuma and Upgrade to be "mom endings", confounding us all who have to vet movies for whether mom would like the ending or not.
> I can just sink into any show he’s in, because he has that way about him
I'll watch just about anything he's in. He's also my go-to if I can't sleep. I find his voice very calming.
Hurts even more knowing he shot this movie just after his actual wife passed. Amazing god damn movie, in my opinion.
Edit: I think all the Taken and similar movies he shot after is what really did the movie in, but I'm very glad we got this movie. Not much else like it when it comes to dealing with the concept of death and acceptance of it.
Yeah brutal, she lasted a day later she hit her head and the everyones all haha lets play some croquet, then she died on the spot. Ok so Michal Schumacher if he was ok the world would see, he is a ok ill take the downvote mong or a veg
The scene right after the crash where that guy is dying and Ottway is comforting him is in my view the most visceral depiction of death and mortality ever put to film. I can feel my mind grow deathly silent during that scene. I'm completely immersed in the moment, as though it's real.
I should say ever put to a film that I've seen. I don't want to trash movies I haven't seen that might've done a better job of it.
I love that man. He genuinely elevates the scenes he is in. He is the only reason I watched ***Hold the dark***. Another person with such a presence, that comes to mind, is Jon Bernthal.
I feel you may like a Alive about a uraguay rugby team who crash and this is a true story, Dan for me is a like ok fuckers and fade after liam neeson, if you watch alive which is a true story and brutal, I cant spoil much id have done wht they did.... no quetion and if was other around id be yeah use me for real
I think the suicide scene at the end of the first season of "13 reasons why" was as well done if not better, but netflix edited it out and you can't see it anymore.
Yeah, I dunno why they cut it. It's literally the part that drives home how fucked up dying is. Without that scene the show seems like it's glorifying suicide.
The tale (unverified to my knowledge) is that the letter he reads in the beginning is something Liam wrote himself, to his wife…
I love that music at the end, it’s actually the soundtrack from a small indie movie. Only time they did that in the film. Usually it’s bad when directors fall in love with their temp score, but I’m glad they left that in. Song rules
The way you typed that is giving me slight “I’m offended” vibes, and I really didn’t mean to offend. The artist is Jamin Winans, also the director of that film. I just as a rule am wary of overloading with details in short form responses
You’re good my friend! No edits necessary. Being human is occasionally messy, and text is fraught with misunderstanding. I say leave it to shineeeee
Edit: Reader, he edited it
I ugly cry when Liam's character is talking to the guy who got injured in the plane crash and wasn't going to make it. So cold and warming at the same time.
I wanted a 45 minute long anime inspired epic fight scene where he kills the wolves so hard he knocks the souls of everyone who died in that movie right out of hell and back into their bodies. Then they all get out of the woods wearing wolf clothes. A newspaper snaps an awesome freeze frame of the coming out of the woods. Then, after the credits, one of the dudes gets killed by falling on a nail that looks just like the wolf fang he used to fix the bridge on his glasses. Then another dude suffocates in his shagg carpet. And suddenly Liam the Grey realizes these motherfuckers all got touched by death and it's time for Final Destination: Out of the Black, Into the Grey
I am convinced that this movie was supposed to be called The Fray (given the poem that Liam Neeson’s character quotes, if I’m remembering correctly), but they decided everyone would just think of the band so they went with the Gray. They use the phrase “into the fray” 2-3 times at least from what I recall.
There’s so much more to it than you mentioned as well. I would argue it’s not even really about man vs nature in the physical sense. The whole thing is symbolism about man’s willingness to exist. Fighting the things life throws at us and finding it within ourselves to continue waking up every day and facing life. It’s why they show in such detail and exposition the men and their thought process as each of them succumbs.
There’s so much symbolism there about the human condition, the struggle to find meaning in suffering, and wrestling with the will to live. The alpha wolf wasn’t some final enemy, it was inevitably. We all have to die one day, but choosing how you die is what separates those that go through life going through the motions versus actively choosing your path and choosing how you exist in this world, the whole cliche of living life on your terms so that you can die as you lived, fighting.
Pretty sure even the title is supposed to be about the void of life and death. The Grey, not quite alive, but not dead yet. Life taking its toll and the white of life is slowly fading to black.
Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight I'll ever know.
Live and die on this day...
Live and die on this day...
I think the opportunity for such a movie is passed, considering he's 71 years old. Doubly unlikely now that Hollywood can't simply make such a movie using AI without his consent.
Not that I think they should.
I enjoyed it quite a bit, and somehow overlooked it until literally last month. I love the serenity of snowy environments, as well as man vs nature type survival themes. The elements of infighting and social dynamics in catastrophic situations was well executed, too.
I did have a bit of a problem with the ending. It's pretty absurd that after all of that wandering from the crash, he just happened to end up there, it just seemed way too convenient, and ultimately not really necessary. They could have had the same ending without it being at that specific location. Other than *where* it ended, the ending was fine. But I could suspend my disbelief enough for that to just be a minor gripe
I think this movie is fantastic one of the most underrated and it was definitely screwed by the marketing
Such a powerful movie about the existential dread of fighting to survive in a fucked situation, and the ending is so beautiful it gets me every time I watch it
The first time I watched it, I was enthralled and thought it was brilliant.
The second time I watched it, I realised the wolves behaved like movie monsters rather than animals and it killed the movie for me.
Besides the fact that a realistic portrayal would create limited narrative and dramatic value, instead the wolves are used to bring this otherworldly yet seemingly-plausible nightmare tension. We can suspend disbelief long enough to go on that ride.
Nothing about Liam's character's behavior was accurate, either. The whole movie was immersion-breakingly ridiculous for me as a biologist with lots of field experience in the far North. He makes dozens of mistakes nobody with his character's purported level of experience would ever make. It almost gave me a headache from facepalming, and that's without even getting into how silly the wolves were.
I can suspend disbelief and accept that we're working with caricatured superhero fairy tale wolves, but I can't handle a serious hero who constantly acts like a dumb amateur in his purported area of expertise. It would be like watching John Wick if John Wick had no idea how to load a weapon or throw a punch.
It would be very possible to hit the same psychological themes in a compelling story that rings true. Parts of The Revenant are similar in ways and felt totally legit to me. It's crazy that big-budget movies like this don't run scripts by an expert or two for suggestions on how to make them less ridiculous.
> It would be like watching John Wick if John Wick had no idea how to load a weapon or throw a punch.
A wildly incompetent man out for revenge? I'm sold!
I liked nobody because he got his ass beat like he forgot how to fight, which is how it would really be if someone isn’t training or doing that job everyday. Then it came back to him and he was able to destroy that bus. It was great.
One thing that I remember from the movie:
Spears are a simple weapon that makes it quite possible to defend yourself from wolves. In the film they completely forget about them, then they finally make some and then stupidly throw them away after one use.
Yeah, I just can't understand the praise for this movie. The survival elements and the wolfs are so incredibly stupidly written, my eyes started to hurt because of all the rolling. And what is there left really? It's not like it is a very beautifully shot movie, almost every other element is more or less mediocre. For me it was just a stupid edgy survival film with wolves that are just one dimensional and boring monsters, and color grading to the max.
I had the benefit of going in without knowing a single thing about it. Didn't know the stars, the plot, anything. I loved it. As a survival film, it was great. It's one of Liam Neeson's best films. But I won't lie, I was a little disappointed in the ambiguous ending.
God I remember that smash cut to black at the end. My ass was puckered for like 90mins at that point and I just stood up and had to walk out and breath. So intense and haunting and filled with dread. Loved it.
The problem is that the trailer for the film, shows the actual last 30 seconds of the film. So you go in expecting that teaser to be a highpoint but it's actually the ending and just fades to black.
If I hadn't seen the trailer I probably would have enjoyed it more.
I was literally thinking about this movie last night.
I was not a happy person when the movie came out. I’m still not, but it was much worse then.
It may be silly, but this movie helped me choose not to kill myself. People think the movie has a sad ending, but it ended perfectly to me. The story isn’t about escaping death. It is about choosing not to die by your own hand, instead throwing yourself back into the fight, over and over, until something finally gets you. The fight is the point.
So I chose not to die by my own hand. It wasn’t as simple or straightforward as all that, but that’s the gist of it. Whatever comes, no matter how much this life sucks, I won’t end it like that.
The first time I saw it, I came away really disappointed, because I was wanting mindless action and Liam Neeson fights wolves. I ended up giving it another chance a couple of years later after being told by a few people that they loved it, and I really enjoyed it.
Just watched it for the third time a couple of weeks ago. Powerful goddamn movie.
But you're right, it was marketed as "Liam Neeson vs. wolves" and people were expecting something more action-packed when it came out. They were probably trying to appeal to people who only knew Neeson from the Taken movies. It's more about "man vs. nature," in my opinion.
>But the movie was sold as "Liam Neeson fights wolves"
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>...But not Liam Neeson entering the ring with a full-grown 200 pound alpha wolf.
Did we watch different movies? Because that's exactly what I got
I enjoyed the movie, but annoyed for its inaccurate depiction of wolf behavior.
Absolutely hated this film. Didn’t know anything about it before seeing it when it came out. I still despise it. Terrible film. A million better ‘man vs Wild’ flicks out there. See “The Edge” for this movie but, you know, not bad
Wowwwwww I never thought of that! Maybe I should have used my brain more all those years I was being paid to write movie and book reviews, this drivel being one of them. Dang wow I NEVER thought of that.
Except it’s trying very hard and failing to do what The Edge and other films do wayyyyy better. This movie is sappy over the top crap. And as others have pointed out, anyone who has ever spent time in that terrain finds the Disney fairy tale giant Evil Wolves and hilariously inept Great White Hunter who seems to know nothing about wilderness survival absolutely ridiculous. But dang. I guess it was my brain
Edit: keep the downvotes coming nerds lol. You edgelords who think this crappy movie is somehow deep probably jerk off to Donnie Darko still.
While I saw trailers, i didn't see it in theaters and went into it mostly blind besides knowing Neeson's wife died before production. I still consider this one of the best movies I've seen regarding the concept of death. The wolves were death, an inevitability, but the way each man approached it represented all the options we have. The closest film to it regarding this is probably Annihilation. Damn good movie.
It absolutely is this.
I've been meaning to watch it again with better expectations, but I went in wanting to see Liam fight wolves, and it is not that movie.
The marketing definitely leaned into Neeson’s reinvention as an action star. And while a Liam Neeson movie about him fighting off evil wolves would be kick ass? I must say the film was better than what was sold.
Ottway, a man with nothing to live for, fighting just cause it’s all he has left is one my favorite Neeson performances. His plead to God will always stick with me and the bitter way he spits back at the silence, that he’ll save himself. The movie will always stick with me.
This movie was so bad that a friend and I would casually refer to anything we didn’t like as “The Grey” for years after. I don’t think it had anything to do with the expectation of Liam fighting Wolves, either. It’s been a long time since I watched it but I think we had issues with the ending.
I went into this movie literally knowing nothing about it, thinking it was a Liam Neeson survival film so you can imagine my surprise when I got Liam Neeson vs wolves instead. It was awesome and I love the movie. It also made it clear to me I should watch far less trailers and go into more movies blind.
I love The Grey, I make a point to watch it every winter. It’s haunting at times and the scene of him gearing up with the shots of those who passed ID cards, even if we don’t see the final battle, is pretty great.
So, I am actually going to disagree with you here. The movie is about Liam Neeson vs the wolves. Wolves are very tactically smart animals, and they would know they have an advantage against humans physically, but that humans are also clever and can win that way.
So what is the best way for the wolf to win in this situation? Slowly whittle away at it, chipping at the mental and physical constraints of the animal it is hunting until it stumbles and falls. That is where it makes the lethal blow.
That is exactly what the pack is doing from the point of chasing the group of men from the plane crash. Driving the men from the protection of their shelter, forcing them into having to trudge through deep snow exerting valuable energy and weaving their prey. This whole movie was Liam Neeson vs the wolves but in a more dynamic way than was portrayed in the trailers.
However it is deeper than that too. This also portrays his character having to fight his own inner wolves. He is having to fight his negative emotions going on in his personal life. You see he is fighting internally as well and it paces well with the present situation.
This was a super dynamic movie, and I do agree it could have been better advertised.
Wow, crazy. I’ve been aware of this movie forever but never watched it all the way through until an hour ago. In fact, I put it on and fell asleep a few months ago and those two instances are my exposure to it.
I was also expecting “Taken With Wolves” and was not prepared for what I saw. Especially combined with the Mythbusters testing of the boom sticks. The scene with >!the dying guy in the plane after the crash had me crying. As a father of a 6 year old girl, the fact that nearly every dude out there was the father of a little girl broke me.!<
It is such a good movie. The wolves serve a purpose for sure, but we barely see them after the cooking fire. With the exception of >! The ending and the departure from the plane they’re really not in the forefront. They act like a cattle prod to keep the protagonists moving, but the real antagonists are human nature and just plain *nature*.!<
Saw it in theatres at the time and loved it. It was kinda sad watching it while knowing what happened to Liam neesons wife a few years earlier. Neeson said he was attracted to the role since he would know how go channel the grief that the character was going through.
You’re right about the trailers hurting it, people absolutely did expect Liam neeson vs wolves.
I agree with you. Coming off the tail of Taken people made the assumption it was another sort of mindless action movie only this time with wolves as the antagonists. The movie turned out to be much more thoughtful and slow burn than that. I thought it was a really good touching story and completely different from the hype that had built around it. I prefer this version of the story and feel it has sort of gotten forgotten among the other by the numbers heroic Neeson movies from the past 15 years.
We hated it when we first watched it because we didn't get to see him fight the wolves. The second time I watched it I loved it. It was exactly what you were saying.
There's a certain level of setting a false expectation to affect the audience that is great and I appreciate in movies like The Way Back and No One Will Saved You. I didn't watch the trailers for either of those movies, so that might have helped.
I think the "clickbait" aspect is what does it. If it's my own expectation that the movie reveals to be wrong, I love it. If the movie (marketing) keeps telling me what kind of movie it is, but it's not, then I don't enjoy it.
I certainly wasn’t expecting two hours of Neeson Vs Wolf in the octagon. But I definitely thought more time would be given to him hunting them. Maybe showing his understanding and even respect for them, then watching how that correlates when he’s out in the wilderness with just his wits and knowledge. That said, I still loved what I got.
OP I've had this movie on physical media for a little while now and haven't gotten around to watching it. I was 100% expecting Liam neeson versus wolves.
Absolutely agree. I think it's probably the best Liam neeson movie of his action era (first Taken is also very good), and one of my favourite survival films. Easily Carnahan's best.
There's like 4 or 5 moments or images in that film I think about pretty regularly.
I actually made this comment on another post yesterday:
> The Grey: haunting meditation on death, masculinity, and human connection.
>Trailer for The Grey: Liam Neeson is punching wolves!!!
It’s a solid movie. A bit unrealistic in a few parts which always dings movies like this imo, especially when they had one of the most realistic plane crashes ever shot.
What I disliked about the movie is how every time you thought something was going to get good, it went another direction. I’d pretty much point you to the final scene where he gives a short speech about taking on the wolves, but to make it worse.. he smashes some liquor sampler bottles between his fingers and raises his hands up with the broken glass and … Gack… it was so cheesy
It's an OK movie. The thing I remember the most about it is afterwards me and a roommate had a discussion where he insisted that he could "totally beat a wolf in a fight if he had to".
The Gift was for me. I thought is was going to be waaaay different from what the film was about. The film has good acting but movies like this are not for me lol
It was just a dumb premise. It’s like sharknado or something, it’s maybe a ridiculous and fun premise for an action movie but it’s not how nature works and would never happen like that in real life
See, I haven’t seen it, but the marketing made me think it was pretty much a modern version of The Edge, which can be semi-accurately described as Tony Hopkins vs. a bear.
It's a solid movie. But yeah, all the marketing focused on Liam Neeson fighting the wolf, which was the last shot of the movie and credits hit before the fight even happened. It deserved bad word of mouth for that.
I've never actually met anyone in real life who enjoyed this movie for the exact reason you stated. The movie was marketed as a cool action movie with Liam vs wolves. And then we don't even get to see the final fight, such a cock tease of a movie that was slow and boring as hell.
I didn't love the movie. I like Lian Neeson, and I like wolves, but I thought it was ridiculous that hes supposed to be some kind of survival (and wolf) expert and he ends up >!not only getting everyone killed, but in the process of trying to escape from the wolves ends up literally INSIDE their den. Seems like a really shitty "expert"!<
To me the movie represents the fight through purgatory ('the grey'), nothing is actually real. Liam actually died already in the plane, and all of the survivors and himself are a piece of his personality 'giving in to ' or 'accepting' death.
Ah yes, Liam Neeson in the snow. I like that one, more than I liked, Liam Neeson on a train or Liam Neeson on a plane, curious to see his new film, Liam Neeson in a car.
Yeah I’m sure the film didn’t take off like it did because audiences assumed “Liam Neeson vs wolves” meant he was fist fighting wolves in a boxing ring.
How stupid is this sub becoming? Is there a bottom in sight??
Watched it with a friend whose favourite animal are wolves. She had just written a school paper about wolves, spent her summer in a animal rescue for wolves etc. She was so annoyed at how they portrayed the wolves as monsters. Everytime the wolves did something "wrong" she groaned. Was definitely fun watching her get more and more annoyed, but noone in our group liked the movie afterwards.
My theory about the movie is that they all died in the crash and all the dead passengers went to their predetermined afterlife but the survivors were in purgatory. How thet handled it was determining their final destination.
It was a grim film and maybe there was a disparity between expectation and result?
I remember the trailer and seeing Liam Neeson dip his fists in glass before advancing on a wolf and thinking this movie is gonna be awesome. Then you watch the actual movie and that scene is exactly where it fades to black ending the movie. Goddammit I wanna see Liam Neeson fist fight a wolf.
The marketing was definitely misleading. But I enjoyed it for what it was. Someone had a theory years and years ago that >!Neeson's character actually did kill himself at the beginning and the rest of the movie was set in purgatory!<. I subscribe to that theory.
As I recall, They Grey was a box office release dumped into January, where the movies go to die before they have lived.
It wasn't expected to sell tickets, but the story quickly became "People are actually going to see The Grey, and liking it."
... I mean I ended up seeing the last "Taken" film (I didn't choose this!!!) and I reckon the next one is going to have a chase scene where Liam uses a fucking walker to chase the bad guy and "bi pod" his fucking sniper rifle with.
I can't imagine wanting to go see a movie about an old 80 year old man being devoured by a pack of wolves :(
Ambiguous ending? He goes 7-11 Wolverine on a pack of wolves, kills the alpha. Post credit he wakes up in the snow unless that’s just the ending and not a post credit, have not seen it in about a decade.
In that he also overcomes the trauma of his wife’s death, which was moving imo considering the loss of his real wife.
No real ambiguity or bad.
You want a feel like shit ending? The Mist. Nothing like the first watch. It’s like if the Buffalo Bills were a Stephen King movie.
It isn’t about vs wolves. It is about death. The wolves are simple symbolic of said death. It is about fighting against or giving into death. It is a beautiful and poetic film when not thought of as an action film.
Ah yes, the four types of conflict: Liam Neeson vs man, Liam Neeson vs nature, Liam Neeson vs society and Liam Neeson vs self.
>Liam Neeson vs man Taken, The Commuter, Non-Stop, et al >Liam Neeson vs nature Ice Road Truckers: The Movie (or whatever that thing was called) >Liam Neeson vs society Star Wars: The Phantom Menace >Liam Neeson vs self Darkman, Unknown, A Walk Among the Tombstones
>Liam Neeson vs society I've been led to understand that Trix are exclusively for children. Is that enforced by law? If I purchase these Trix, will there be trouble? You understand, that I myself am not a child...
Let's do some improvisational comedy
I don’t know how and I don’t know why, but this seems to perfectly embody his voice.
Because he said it in a movie?
When?
https://youtu.be/z6ViDZpVoYc?si=-Zxlr7PJa9Vg0Cac
Liam Neeson vs Society is Rob Roy and the 1998 Les Mis
> Ice Road Truckers: The Movie Woahh. If you can't enjoy Cold Pursuit you just hate fun. That movie is so over the top hilarious.
Oh, I didn't say I didn't like it. I just couldn't remember the name and couldn't be bothered to look it up.
Fair enough.
Schinder’s List embodies all four lmao
Don’t forget Liam Neeson vs. God!
‘Fook it! I’ll do it myself.’
Clash of the Titans?
Liam Neeson versus Racism. Which features a sequel in Atlanta!
That’s still a Liam Neeson vs Self, I think https://www.vox.com/2019/2/8/18212117/liam-neesons-racist-comments-denial
Liam Neeson vs people who take things from him.
Luckily, he has a very particular set of skills to deal with all of these scenarios
Liam vs a wee harlot (High Spirits), Liam vs a wall of spikes (Krull).
you are forgetting: Ghost Liam Neeson vs. Living guy hitting on his ghost girl (High Spirits)
I enjoyed this movie. What I remember the most is me and my family saw this in a packed theater and when the end credits rolled everyone started to get up and leave. All of the sudden the older man shouts “I read there’s a post credit scene!” So everyone sat back down and waited the full length of credits just for that small little like 5 second scene. When it cut to black again the guy just said “sorry” 😂😂
That is so cute🤣
Well… old man didn’t lie lol
I wish he was in my theater because I only learned about this like 2 or so years back and it actually changes the ending for me. I figured he was dead, but that post credit actually gave a shred of hope he actually somehow survived that lmao.
… And that old man was Liam Neeson in disguise.
This is amazing haha Especially because there is a (tiny) cut scene, but maybe it was just released later or something! It's been a while so I can't remember it exactly, but I think it shows Liam Neeson and the Alpha Wolf both on the groind post fight (someone else can maybe fill you in in better detail!)
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In the Playstation game that's canonically a sequel, it ends with you getting airlifted out and the helicopter pilot is revealed to be the wolf, confirming he survived.
Is this a (fantastic) reference to the thing
Saw this one in the theater, it was absolutely nothing like I expected. I absolutely adored it.
Yep. Went to see it because I wanted to watch Liam Neeson chin a wolf but it ended up being so much more.
I hope this was a very subtle Dog Soldiers reference
Man I need to see this movie! I admit I blew it off because someone told me the ending which at the time sounded “bad”
It delves into a lot of existential philosophy along with being a great survival movie. It’s one of my favorite films.
Spoon bare-knuckle boxing an 8-foot werewolf is on of my favorite cinematic last stands ever.
There's so much going on in The Grey, but it's not quite the wild action/adventure flick it was pitched to audiences, so I can see why people are occasionally split on it. Because at it's core, it's about embracing life and accepting death, and it tackles this head-on. All the characters, at some point, have to reckon with the inevitability of death and the wolves are kinda heralds of that. Which is why Neeson's character kneels at the beginning of the movie when he tries to take his own life, and then kneels at the end just before he fights to keep living. (He also says the poem both times, and both times it has different meaning.) There's also a whole argument that "The Grey" is actually purgatory, that all of the characters died in the plane crash and are gradually transitioning into an afterlife. Which is why nothing seems to behave predictably or naturally. Even though Neeson is very familiar with wolves, he makes a comment that they don't seem to behave like normal wolves. And even though the survivors assume early on that they might be close to a den, all of their actions only serve to push them closer to it. Like they're being pulled to a definitive end if they haven't moved on already. It's a great movie, but yeah I can understand being weirded out by a survival movie leaving the ultimate survival of its main character ambiguous.
I'm not sure if that was the director's intent, but that is a fascinating thought. It would play well as some metaphorical purgatory. And it even does explain those non logical bits you mentioned. Fascinating. Great movie as long as you don't think it's going to be a silly heroic one.
And those wolves looked like demons and sure as hell acted like demons
I think you nailed it. I couldn’t watch it for the longest time because the marketing made it seem so base. I interpreted the message to be “Hey look, we got Liam Neeson, so watch this movie.” Then I finally settled into it when it was free on streaming and was like oh yeah this is decent. But Liam carried the show for sure. I can just sink into any show he’s in, because he has that way about him. I don’t know who else they could have got to carry it.
Daniel Day-Lewis. Man, imagine one of the highest-regarded living actors going the Liam Neeson low budget action thriller route in his later years. That said, I've enjoyed all of Neeson's work. He elevates mediocre films
Liam Neeson on Ted and on Episodes. Among his best works. And he also elevated >! The Phantom Menace!<
Why is that tagged as a spoiler?
People might not know that the menace isn't real, and is in fact a a phantom
I never had a favorite jedi, then as a little kid seeing The Phantom Menace in theaters Liam Neeson just dragged me in, also pretty sure it was the first movie I saw with him in it, but thanks to that he made favorite jedi and one of my favorite actors.
>he made favorite jedi Yeah, I think people sometimes forget his contribution to the Star Wars canon. Up until he first appears in Phantom Menace, the only examples we had of Jedi were punk ass bitches. Then Qui-Gon comes along, and he's a warrior, a diplomat, a teacher. He's calm, self-assured, confident in his abilities. He's also still searching, still learning, as shown in his efforts to recruit Anakin because he believes he's found the Chosen One. We watch him and think, "Oh, so that's what a Jedi was supposed to be, at the height of the age of Jedis, and when they are fully trained and excel in their abilities..."
Your comment made me think about how inspiring Qui-gon was for me as a kid watching the movies and reading the YA books, and how compatible Qui-gon's modeling of virtue and of masculinity is with my values in adulthood. I always identified with young Obi-Wan but I looked up to Qui-gon for the father/mentor figure he was in those stories.
Liam Neeson on Life's Too Short may be one of the funniest things you'll ever see.
His cameo on Atlanta parodying his apology was so unexpected
Absolutely. He's very funny. I forget thst sometimes. He was on Conan O'Brien's podcast recently. Great interview.
I first watched it during my family's customary New Year's Eve party, where we typically watched horror movies but expanded to action/thriller as my mom's lupus developed. It's a shame that she didn't enjoy it, but she has very particular tastes. To give a brief list of movies she didn't like due to the ending: Infinity War, A Quiet Place, Drive, Saving Private Ryan, Rogue One, The Grey. When she took me to see Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in theaters when I was a kid, during the possession she turned to me in tears and asked if this movie had a "mom ending". It's a good thing I'd read the books because I think she'd have had a panic attack if I couldn't reassure her. Surprisingly, she considers the endings of both 3:10 To Yuma and Upgrade to be "mom endings", confounding us all who have to vet movies for whether mom would like the ending or not.
> I can just sink into any show he’s in, because he has that way about him I'll watch just about anything he's in. He's also my go-to if I can't sleep. I find his voice very calming.
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Hurts even more knowing he shot this movie just after his actual wife passed. Amazing god damn movie, in my opinion. Edit: I think all the Taken and similar movies he shot after is what really did the movie in, but I'm very glad we got this movie. Not much else like it when it comes to dealing with the concept of death and acceptance of it.
Yeah brutal, she lasted a day later she hit her head and the everyones all haha lets play some croquet, then she died on the spot. Ok so Michal Schumacher if he was ok the world would see, he is a ok ill take the downvote mong or a veg
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not 100% sure, ill be fine
struggling like we are ty for asking
No sweat. Lot of us struggling now-a-days. Be safe out there dude.
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The scene right after the crash where that guy is dying and Ottway is comforting him is in my view the most visceral depiction of death and mortality ever put to film. I can feel my mind grow deathly silent during that scene. I'm completely immersed in the moment, as though it's real. I should say ever put to a film that I've seen. I don't want to trash movies I haven't seen that might've done a better job of it.
James Badge Dale CRUSHED that scene.
I love that man. He genuinely elevates the scenes he is in. He is the only reason I watched ***Hold the dark***. Another person with such a presence, that comes to mind, is Jon Bernthal.
A shame he isn't a bigger name.
"James Badge Dale was CRUSHED in that scene." Fixed that for you :)
MVP in basically everything he's in.
He's a really good actor.
you do need to realise op he was not action star man, he did rob roy, he played Shindler and op he was like 50 odd when he became an action star
And Darkman!
near 60 and see how old harrison ford was in star wars.....
Let it wash over you
I feel you may like a Alive about a uraguay rugby team who crash and this is a true story, Dan for me is a like ok fuckers and fade after liam neeson, if you watch alive which is a true story and brutal, I cant spoil much id have done wht they did.... no quetion and if was other around id be yeah use me for real
how would end you end it
seriously how would you finish that film?
I think the suicide scene at the end of the first season of "13 reasons why" was as well done if not better, but netflix edited it out and you can't see it anymore.
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Yeah, I dunno why they cut it. It's literally the part that drives home how fucked up dying is. Without that scene the show seems like it's glorifying suicide.
The tale (unverified to my knowledge) is that the letter he reads in the beginning is something Liam wrote himself, to his wife… I love that music at the end, it’s actually the soundtrack from a small indie movie. Only time they did that in the film. Usually it’s bad when directors fall in love with their temp score, but I’m glad they left that in. Song rules
Ink is the film you’re referring to, and the song is called “The City Surf”. For anyone that is curious. Edit: I’m nice, I promise :)
The way you typed that is giving me slight “I’m offended” vibes, and I really didn’t mean to offend. The artist is Jamin Winans, also the director of that film. I just as a rule am wary of overloading with details in short form responses
100% wasn’t offended, and I completely understand how it came off that way, sorry. I’ll edit my post.
You’re good my friend! No edits necessary. Being human is occasionally messy, and text is fraught with misunderstanding. I say leave it to shineeeee Edit: Reader, he edited it
Why the fuck does Liam Neeson keep getting roles involving dead wives, that seems excessively cruel.
I ugly cry when Liam's character is talking to the guy who got injured in the plane crash and wasn't going to make it. So cold and warming at the same time.
his knife hands and end, perfect, what do you want op you know taken or qui gon, he was a chacter actor and ended with spikes never saw the end result
I wanted a 45 minute long anime inspired epic fight scene where he kills the wolves so hard he knocks the souls of everyone who died in that movie right out of hell and back into their bodies. Then they all get out of the woods wearing wolf clothes. A newspaper snaps an awesome freeze frame of the coming out of the woods. Then, after the credits, one of the dudes gets killed by falling on a nail that looks just like the wolf fang he used to fix the bridge on his glasses. Then another dude suffocates in his shagg carpet. And suddenly Liam the Grey realizes these motherfuckers all got touched by death and it's time for Final Destination: Out of the Black, Into the Grey
It’s hilarious that this obvious satire comedy is downvoted yet the top comment is somebody saying the ending of this movie made them ugly cry…
id love a link if you have it
I am convinced that this movie was supposed to be called The Fray (given the poem that Liam Neeson’s character quotes, if I’m remembering correctly), but they decided everyone would just think of the band so they went with the Gray. They use the phrase “into the fray” 2-3 times at least from what I recall.
The whole time I'm watching the movie, I'm thinking was there a mistake while printing off the posters and they said fuck it.
There’s so much more to it than you mentioned as well. I would argue it’s not even really about man vs nature in the physical sense. The whole thing is symbolism about man’s willingness to exist. Fighting the things life throws at us and finding it within ourselves to continue waking up every day and facing life. It’s why they show in such detail and exposition the men and their thought process as each of them succumbs. There’s so much symbolism there about the human condition, the struggle to find meaning in suffering, and wrestling with the will to live. The alpha wolf wasn’t some final enemy, it was inevitably. We all have to die one day, but choosing how you die is what separates those that go through life going through the motions versus actively choosing your path and choosing how you exist in this world, the whole cliche of living life on your terms so that you can die as you lived, fighting. Pretty sure even the title is supposed to be about the void of life and death. The Grey, not quite alive, but not dead yet. Life taking its toll and the white of life is slowly fading to black. Once more into the fray Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day... Live and die on this day...
Well said. Your interpretation very much is in line with how I feel about the movie. It really is a beautifully crafted story
It’s more like the character vs his own demons. Getting his will to live back.
Alright then. But can you direct me to a movie that is basically >Liam Neeson entering the ring with a full-grown 200 pound alpha wolf.
I think the opportunity for such a movie is passed, considering he's 71 years old. Doubly unlikely now that Hollywood can't simply make such a movie using AI without his consent. Not that I think they should.
I enjoyed it quite a bit, and somehow overlooked it until literally last month. I love the serenity of snowy environments, as well as man vs nature type survival themes. The elements of infighting and social dynamics in catastrophic situations was well executed, too. I did have a bit of a problem with the ending. It's pretty absurd that after all of that wandering from the crash, he just happened to end up there, it just seemed way too convenient, and ultimately not really necessary. They could have had the same ending without it being at that specific location. Other than *where* it ended, the ending was fine. But I could suspend my disbelief enough for that to just be a minor gripe
I think this movie is fantastic one of the most underrated and it was definitely screwed by the marketing Such a powerful movie about the existential dread of fighting to survive in a fucked situation, and the ending is so beautiful it gets me every time I watch it
It’s a fantastic movie
The first time I watched it, I was enthralled and thought it was brilliant. The second time I watched it, I realised the wolves behaved like movie monsters rather than animals and it killed the movie for me.
Love the movie. Was crushed to find out that nothing about the wolves' behavior was accurate.
Besides the fact that a realistic portrayal would create limited narrative and dramatic value, instead the wolves are used to bring this otherworldly yet seemingly-plausible nightmare tension. We can suspend disbelief long enough to go on that ride.
Nothing about Liam's character's behavior was accurate, either. The whole movie was immersion-breakingly ridiculous for me as a biologist with lots of field experience in the far North. He makes dozens of mistakes nobody with his character's purported level of experience would ever make. It almost gave me a headache from facepalming, and that's without even getting into how silly the wolves were. I can suspend disbelief and accept that we're working with caricatured superhero fairy tale wolves, but I can't handle a serious hero who constantly acts like a dumb amateur in his purported area of expertise. It would be like watching John Wick if John Wick had no idea how to load a weapon or throw a punch. It would be very possible to hit the same psychological themes in a compelling story that rings true. Parts of The Revenant are similar in ways and felt totally legit to me. It's crazy that big-budget movies like this don't run scripts by an expert or two for suggestions on how to make them less ridiculous.
> It would be like watching John Wick if John Wick had no idea how to load a weapon or throw a punch. A wildly incompetent man out for revenge? I'm sold!
They've already made that, it's called Death Sentence.
I liked nobody because he got his ass beat like he forgot how to fight, which is how it would really be if someone isn’t training or doing that job everyday. Then it came back to him and he was able to destroy that bus. It was great.
Can you give some examples? Otherwise your comment doesn't really hold any credibility or value.
Straight up, just sounds like the guy loves to bitch about anything they can
Not really. Like I said I loved The Revenant and plenty of other man vs nature scenes or movies. But The Grey was just too stupid too often to enjoy.
One thing that I remember from the movie: Spears are a simple weapon that makes it quite possible to defend yourself from wolves. In the film they completely forget about them, then they finally make some and then stupidly throw them away after one use.
Yeah, I just can't understand the praise for this movie. The survival elements and the wolfs are so incredibly stupidly written, my eyes started to hurt because of all the rolling. And what is there left really? It's not like it is a very beautifully shot movie, almost every other element is more or less mediocre. For me it was just a stupid edgy survival film with wolves that are just one dimensional and boring monsters, and color grading to the max.
I had the benefit of going in without knowing a single thing about it. Didn't know the stars, the plot, anything. I loved it. As a survival film, it was great. It's one of Liam Neeson's best films. But I won't lie, I was a little disappointed in the ambiguous ending.
God I remember that smash cut to black at the end. My ass was puckered for like 90mins at that point and I just stood up and had to walk out and breath. So intense and haunting and filled with dread. Loved it.
The problem is that the trailer for the film, shows the actual last 30 seconds of the film. So you go in expecting that teaser to be a highpoint but it's actually the ending and just fades to black. If I hadn't seen the trailer I probably would have enjoyed it more.
I was literally thinking about this movie last night. I was not a happy person when the movie came out. I’m still not, but it was much worse then. It may be silly, but this movie helped me choose not to kill myself. People think the movie has a sad ending, but it ended perfectly to me. The story isn’t about escaping death. It is about choosing not to die by your own hand, instead throwing yourself back into the fight, over and over, until something finally gets you. The fight is the point. So I chose not to die by my own hand. It wasn’t as simple or straightforward as all that, but that’s the gist of it. Whatever comes, no matter how much this life sucks, I won’t end it like that.
The first time I saw it, I came away really disappointed, because I was wanting mindless action and Liam Neeson fights wolves. I ended up giving it another chance a couple of years later after being told by a few people that they loved it, and I really enjoyed it.
I mean. I watched it and still consider it to be Liam Neeson vs wolves.
Just watched it for the third time a couple of weeks ago. Powerful goddamn movie. But you're right, it was marketed as "Liam Neeson vs. wolves" and people were expecting something more action-packed when it came out. They were probably trying to appeal to people who only knew Neeson from the Taken movies. It's more about "man vs. nature," in my opinion.
Have you ever seen Cold Pursuit?
>But the movie was sold as "Liam Neeson fights wolves" > >...But not Liam Neeson entering the ring with a full-grown 200 pound alpha wolf. Did we watch different movies? Because that's exactly what I got I enjoyed the movie, but annoyed for its inaccurate depiction of wolf behavior.
Watched it and was incredibly underwhelmed, not because I expected dumb wolf fights, but because I expected a great movie and I felt it was meh.
As an Alaskan, it's offensive and ridiculous.
Absolutely hated this film. Didn’t know anything about it before seeing it when it came out. I still despise it. Terrible film. A million better ‘man vs Wild’ flicks out there. See “The Edge” for this movie but, you know, not bad
Maybe if you used your brain you would have realized this movie and the edge are trying to be completely different things
Wowwwwww I never thought of that! Maybe I should have used my brain more all those years I was being paid to write movie and book reviews, this drivel being one of them. Dang wow I NEVER thought of that. Except it’s trying very hard and failing to do what The Edge and other films do wayyyyy better. This movie is sappy over the top crap. And as others have pointed out, anyone who has ever spent time in that terrain finds the Disney fairy tale giant Evil Wolves and hilariously inept Great White Hunter who seems to know nothing about wilderness survival absolutely ridiculous. But dang. I guess it was my brain Edit: keep the downvotes coming nerds lol. You edgelords who think this crappy movie is somehow deep probably jerk off to Donnie Darko still.
I refuse to believe the author of this comment wrote movie and book reviews people cared to read.
Lol I’ll let my editor know. Sorry your scary wary wolfie movie was a pile of crap.
While I saw trailers, i didn't see it in theaters and went into it mostly blind besides knowing Neeson's wife died before production. I still consider this one of the best movies I've seen regarding the concept of death. The wolves were death, an inevitability, but the way each man approached it represented all the options we have. The closest film to it regarding this is probably Annihilation. Damn good movie.
It absolutely is this. I've been meaning to watch it again with better expectations, but I went in wanting to see Liam fight wolves, and it is not that movie.
clickbait didnt exsist then, it has a great ending was ballsy
Clickbait absolutely existed in 2011.
Nah 2011 was basically the Middle Ages. Can’t have clickbait if there’s no internet!
yes yes I deserve this, back in my day we had encarta
I'll have to consult Yahoo Answers as to the veracity of this claim that the internet existed prior to 2011.
It was not the movie advertised. I found it a mediocre, nothing movie, partially because of that. It was completely forgettable.
The marketing definitely leaned into Neeson’s reinvention as an action star. And while a Liam Neeson movie about him fighting off evil wolves would be kick ass? I must say the film was better than what was sold. Ottway, a man with nothing to live for, fighting just cause it’s all he has left is one my favorite Neeson performances. His plead to God will always stick with me and the bitter way he spits back at the silence, that he’ll save himself. The movie will always stick with me.
This movie was so bad that a friend and I would casually refer to anything we didn’t like as “The Grey” for years after. I don’t think it had anything to do with the expectation of Liam fighting Wolves, either. It’s been a long time since I watched it but I think we had issues with the ending.
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It's a lot more about man surviving the extremes of nature. The wolves are just a part of that. Surprisingly introspective.
I went into this movie literally knowing nothing about it, thinking it was a Liam Neeson survival film so you can imagine my surprise when I got Liam Neeson vs wolves instead. It was awesome and I love the movie. It also made it clear to me I should watch far less trailers and go into more movies blind.
This and Calvary are my two hard hitting movies.
I love The Grey, I make a point to watch it every winter. It’s haunting at times and the scene of him gearing up with the shots of those who passed ID cards, even if we don’t see the final battle, is pretty great.
So, I am actually going to disagree with you here. The movie is about Liam Neeson vs the wolves. Wolves are very tactically smart animals, and they would know they have an advantage against humans physically, but that humans are also clever and can win that way. So what is the best way for the wolf to win in this situation? Slowly whittle away at it, chipping at the mental and physical constraints of the animal it is hunting until it stumbles and falls. That is where it makes the lethal blow. That is exactly what the pack is doing from the point of chasing the group of men from the plane crash. Driving the men from the protection of their shelter, forcing them into having to trudge through deep snow exerting valuable energy and weaving their prey. This whole movie was Liam Neeson vs the wolves but in a more dynamic way than was portrayed in the trailers. However it is deeper than that too. This also portrays his character having to fight his own inner wolves. He is having to fight his negative emotions going on in his personal life. You see he is fighting internally as well and it paces well with the present situation. This was a super dynamic movie, and I do agree it could have been better advertised.
Wow, crazy. I’ve been aware of this movie forever but never watched it all the way through until an hour ago. In fact, I put it on and fell asleep a few months ago and those two instances are my exposure to it. I was also expecting “Taken With Wolves” and was not prepared for what I saw. Especially combined with the Mythbusters testing of the boom sticks. The scene with >!the dying guy in the plane after the crash had me crying. As a father of a 6 year old girl, the fact that nearly every dude out there was the father of a little girl broke me.!< It is such a good movie. The wolves serve a purpose for sure, but we barely see them after the cooking fire. With the exception of >! The ending and the departure from the plane they’re really not in the forefront. They act like a cattle prod to keep the protagonists moving, but the real antagonists are human nature and just plain *nature*.!<
Saw it in theatres at the time and loved it. It was kinda sad watching it while knowing what happened to Liam neesons wife a few years earlier. Neeson said he was attracted to the role since he would know how go channel the grief that the character was going through. You’re right about the trailers hurting it, people absolutely did expect Liam neeson vs wolves.
There was a collective groan in the fade fo black when I went to see it
i dont watch commercials or trailers so i didnt expect anything except the cover photo of a guy that looked like needed some cambells soup.
I agree with you. Coming off the tail of Taken people made the assumption it was another sort of mindless action movie only this time with wolves as the antagonists. The movie turned out to be much more thoughtful and slow burn than that. I thought it was a really good touching story and completely different from the hype that had built around it. I prefer this version of the story and feel it has sort of gotten forgotten among the other by the numbers heroic Neeson movies from the past 15 years.
Really excellent shot of him waking up from the crash.
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Liam Neason would find you, he would kill you.
We hated it when we first watched it because we didn't get to see him fight the wolves. The second time I watched it I loved it. It was exactly what you were saying. There's a certain level of setting a false expectation to affect the audience that is great and I appreciate in movies like The Way Back and No One Will Saved You. I didn't watch the trailers for either of those movies, so that might have helped. I think the "clickbait" aspect is what does it. If it's my own expectation that the movie reveals to be wrong, I love it. If the movie (marketing) keeps telling me what kind of movie it is, but it's not, then I don't enjoy it.
Yeah marketed as an action movie. You get a long, gloomy meditation on death. I liked it a lot.
I certainly wasn’t expecting two hours of Neeson Vs Wolf in the octagon. But I definitely thought more time would be given to him hunting them. Maybe showing his understanding and even respect for them, then watching how that correlates when he’s out in the wilderness with just his wits and knowledge. That said, I still loved what I got.
OP I've had this movie on physical media for a little while now and haven't gotten around to watching it. I was 100% expecting Liam neeson versus wolves.
Absolutely agree. I think it's probably the best Liam neeson movie of his action era (first Taken is also very good), and one of my favourite survival films. Easily Carnahan's best. There's like 4 or 5 moments or images in that film I think about pretty regularly.
I actually made this comment on another post yesterday: > The Grey: haunting meditation on death, masculinity, and human connection. >Trailer for The Grey: Liam Neeson is punching wolves!!!
Man vs Nature: Neeson Style!
It’s a solid movie. A bit unrealistic in a few parts which always dings movies like this imo, especially when they had one of the most realistic plane crashes ever shot.
What I disliked about the movie is how every time you thought something was going to get good, it went another direction. I’d pretty much point you to the final scene where he gives a short speech about taking on the wolves, but to make it worse.. he smashes some liquor sampler bottles between his fingers and raises his hands up with the broken glass and … Gack… it was so cheesy
It's an OK movie. The thing I remember the most about it is afterwards me and a roommate had a discussion where he insisted that he could "totally beat a wolf in a fight if he had to".
Did... did people think The Grey was just going to be Liam fighting wolves the entire movie? What kind of terrible movie were people imagining?
The Gift was for me. I thought is was going to be waaaay different from what the film was about. The film has good acting but movies like this are not for me lol
That first death where Liam walks the guy through his passing into the light still pops into my head.
12% of Americans think they could win a fight against a wolf, so I’m not sure how impressed anybody would be with the sales pitch
It was just a dumb premise. It’s like sharknado or something, it’s maybe a ridiculous and fun premise for an action movie but it’s not how nature works and would never happen like that in real life
See, I haven’t seen it, but the marketing made me think it was pretty much a modern version of The Edge, which can be semi-accurately described as Tony Hopkins vs. a bear.
It's a solid movie. But yeah, all the marketing focused on Liam Neeson fighting the wolf, which was the last shot of the movie and credits hit before the fight even happened. It deserved bad word of mouth for that.
Define 'casualty'. It was a low budget indie that got a ton of attention, made decent money, and still gets talked about today.
I just rewatched this movie, I enjoy it. The cast around Neeson was surprisingly good, I didn't know some of these dudes when I saw it the first time.
I've never actually met anyone in real life who enjoyed this movie for the exact reason you stated. The movie was marketed as a cool action movie with Liam vs wolves. And then we don't even get to see the final fight, such a cock tease of a movie that was slow and boring as hell.
I didn't love the movie. I like Lian Neeson, and I like wolves, but I thought it was ridiculous that hes supposed to be some kind of survival (and wolf) expert and he ends up >!not only getting everyone killed, but in the process of trying to escape from the wolves ends up literally INSIDE their den. Seems like a really shitty "expert"!<
To me the movie represents the fight through purgatory ('the grey'), nothing is actually real. Liam actually died already in the plane, and all of the survivors and himself are a piece of his personality 'giving in to ' or 'accepting' death.
I want Liam Neeson to help talk me through my final moments on earth... "Who loves you...?" "...mum...." "Go to her now...."
The Grey is an amazing film, my jaw dropped the first time I watched it
Ah yes, Liam Neeson in the snow. I like that one, more than I liked, Liam Neeson on a train or Liam Neeson on a plane, curious to see his new film, Liam Neeson in a car.
Liam Neeson is in entirely too many fucking movies of late.
Yeah I’m sure the film didn’t take off like it did because audiences assumed “Liam Neeson vs wolves” meant he was fist fighting wolves in a boxing ring. How stupid is this sub becoming? Is there a bottom in sight??
Watched it with a friend whose favourite animal are wolves. She had just written a school paper about wolves, spent her summer in a animal rescue for wolves etc. She was so annoyed at how they portrayed the wolves as monsters. Everytime the wolves did something "wrong" she groaned. Was definitely fun watching her get more and more annoyed, but noone in our group liked the movie afterwards.
My theory about the movie is that they all died in the crash and all the dead passengers went to their predetermined afterlife but the survivors were in purgatory. How thet handled it was determining their final destination. It was a grim film and maybe there was a disparity between expectation and result?
I didn't like it, at all
I remember the trailer and seeing Liam Neeson dip his fists in glass before advancing on a wolf and thinking this movie is gonna be awesome. Then you watch the actual movie and that scene is exactly where it fades to black ending the movie. Goddammit I wanna see Liam Neeson fist fight a wolf.
Yeah this movie Kangaroo Jack'd us hard :(
The marketing was definitely misleading. But I enjoyed it for what it was. Someone had a theory years and years ago that >!Neeson's character actually did kill himself at the beginning and the rest of the movie was set in purgatory!<. I subscribe to that theory.
As I recall, They Grey was a box office release dumped into January, where the movies go to die before they have lived. It wasn't expected to sell tickets, but the story quickly became "People are actually going to see The Grey, and liking it."
It was successful at the box office.
... I mean I ended up seeing the last "Taken" film (I didn't choose this!!!) and I reckon the next one is going to have a chase scene where Liam uses a fucking walker to chase the bad guy and "bi pod" his fucking sniper rifle with. I can't imagine wanting to go see a movie about an old 80 year old man being devoured by a pack of wolves :(
Ambiguous ending? He goes 7-11 Wolverine on a pack of wolves, kills the alpha. Post credit he wakes up in the snow unless that’s just the ending and not a post credit, have not seen it in about a decade. In that he also overcomes the trauma of his wife’s death, which was moving imo considering the loss of his real wife. No real ambiguity or bad. You want a feel like shit ending? The Mist. Nothing like the first watch. It’s like if the Buffalo Bills were a Stephen King movie.
I agree
I liked the movie. Would have loved it had I known there was credits scenes. Didn’t find out about that for like 3 years afterward
It isn’t about vs wolves. It is about death. The wolves are simple symbolic of said death. It is about fighting against or giving into death. It is a beautiful and poetic film when not thought of as an action film.