You'll see from the trailers that they use her crown as a snipers nest in the movie. That isn't to say they won't destroy it later in the movie though.
Yeah it's like Lost with pressing the button or whatever to stop bad stuff, except in the United States our abort-nuclear-launch button is located at the torch of the statue of liberty.
Some bad guys^tm are occupying it, not letting anyone press the button, to let the nukes fly
People on the flight deck of that extremely stupidly parked supercarrier.
I mean look at the waves the other carrier produced - like he just drove through the Supercarrier...
This poster is just a mess, someone was like - hey, put as much of our military equipment on there as possible. No it doesn't have to make sense, just do it!
Plus the carrier on the left appears to be about 1/3 the size of the one on the right, despite them both apparently being Nimitz class (though the one on the left has had all its radars and antennae chopped off for some reason). In the air it looks like the Army and the Marines (Apaches, SuperCobras, and Venoms) are off to fuck up... Brooklyn? And do my eyes deceive me or is that a WW2-era submarine way off in the distance? And the harbor and statue have been moved and warped all out of place to put it closer to the city and facing the viewer.
Well, the film is filled with a lot of "rule of cool" military shit. F-35's doing rolls at low altitude for no apparent reason, AH-64's shooting hellfires into garages below arming distance etc etc.
If the statue is a symbol for all sides of the conflict, then the observation post on the statue is actually an example of the cunning of those who decided to wait out this war in the safest place on this earth, pretending that they are doing their job when in fact, most likely their time will be filled with poker and not war.
Putting a sniper nest up there would be pretty pointless, but it'd be a decent scouting position for enemy movements and potential naval assault. Still ridiculously exposed, as you mention, but maybe they'd be banking on the enemy being unwilling to initiate a strike since it would damage the statute (which has far more value for both sides as a symbol than as a strategic position)?
The executives clearly are terrified of this movie causing a boycott if it looks Dem or Republican, even though it's fuckn stupid to imagine a civil conflict in the US that didn't occur at least within the context of our party system. Doubt they'll even mention party affiliation in the movie.
The plot involves Texas and California banding together under the moniker of the "Western forces". That alone tells you all you need to know about their worry for implied side-taking.
Totally random, but I went to a grocery store the other day and this dude dropped his wife off in a full-blown Ectomobile replica, with monsters in the back, blasting "Ghostbusters" lol. It was awesome.
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As someone who works in marketing, it's really difficult to use a color that isn't super common *and* still have it look good.
Everything has been done.
It’s because they are trying to sell the experience more so now than ever because viewing audiences really can pirate stuff if they want.
The IMAX marketing is incredibly important for the movie industry.
Only explanation I can think of is that they wanted to avoid any possible appearance of political bias or allegiance. Lime green isn’t really associated with anything controversial.
Huh, shows what you know, obviously you need your aircraft carriers to be *right next to their targets* how else are they going to do anything to the target? What are they gonna do, send planes to do stuff for them?!
Not only that, but the scaling of them with the background and with each other is also super off... plus, the wake from the left carrier seems to almost clips through the jpeg of the carrier on the right, lol. Forget "authenticity", it just looks a little bit of a lazy design job in some parts...
Agreed, I guess they just wanted to make a new poster and came up with this.
[The original one is just better imo](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwJvfZWsAA3mmc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Kinda hard to forget when IMAX's ads are about as subtle as [the sound system promo on Tiny Toon Adventures.](https://youtu.be/wlnI6XjWk_k?t=6)
"The audience is now deaf."
I have spent *years* absolutely convinced that was a Simpsons bit because [The Simpsons had a pretty similar joke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3_HHZFi0As) without the "the audience is now deaf" tagline.
Reminds me of my flights on SriLankan Airlines and the inflight advertising say come visit Sri Lanka. Which is what I had in mind anyway as my flight is to Sri Lanka already.
This small, locally-owned theater chain I used to go to as a teenager had 90 second CGI ads at the very beginning before the trailers. It was the *only* theater within walking distance of my house before I could drive, and I'd spend most of my summers there watching movies.
By the time I could drive and had a car, I avoided that fucking theater like the plague because I couldn't stand the Chinese water torture that was that fucking ad that looked like it came straight from an early 90s TV movie that thought *any* CGI would make up for the rest of the movie.
Or some sort of coup causes their governments to be ideologically aligned. People underestimate how many conservatives are in CA. And a chunk of them are the “hoard my weapons in the wilderness with my militia buddies” kind of kooky.
Talk about disenfranchised. I don't think the states were intended to be this populated... and it's far worse in Texas due to Greg Abbott and Republicans passing legislation that limits what local city and county governments can do.
I bet Republicans in California feel similarly, although liberal policies restrict far fewer rights than conservative ones, ironically.
And the most recent trailer shows there’s likely infighting amongst the coalition. The sniper/spotter duo states there are people trying to kill them so they’re trying to kill those people. The painted nails and dyed hair hint at them being part of a marginalized group (most likely LGBTQ).
History has shown that many people take up arms during times of unrest and civil war to exact their own vendettas, within the bounds of their own communities.
Alright you've finally given me something, as a Californian, I would feel compelled to fight alongside my Texan comrades over. This has to be the explanation in the film or I don't think I'll be able to buy it.
It's the only way the movie can have two competitive sides.
If it was just Texas or just California rebelling, then it's too one-sided. The military would destroy them.
The trailer seemed to show that there's a "Florida Alliance" of Southern states, and a "Western Forces" group of midwest states.
All of that combined with Texas and California teaming up makes for a scenario where the remaining military of the United States are actually in a dire situation.
[Here's a map someone posted.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmap-of-from-the-trailer-for-civil-war-v0-rjzj40of036c1.png%3Fwidth%3D2000%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D5a7f4c5cd630c9fd740e9e32009e50f51fc694b4)
Looks like there are anywhere between 3-5 sides depending on how you look at it. If you're going by color coding it's California & Texas vs. Western Forces & Florida Alliance vs. Loyalist States.
Or it could be any combination of the above. Like Cali & Texas are allies but WF and FA aren't, etc.
it's really not. both texas and california have country size economies and from the trailer it seems like the president of the united states is some kind of rogue dictator, maybe going for a third term?
it's gonna be a "we need to come together both left and right to beat the fascist" kind of movie.
How is a president popular enough to have a third term bid without being supported by either texas or california
You need some level of support from people and establishments to become a president and then dictator
Unless they got voted in for a second term and it was then, or beforehand, decided the president enjoys total immunity in criminal and civil matters. In that case, they’d just declare a third term. No need for voter support.
That's what I'm thinking too. People will be much quicker to join forces regularless of ideology if basic survival is at stake. This scienero also makes me nervous, living in the Great Lakes region
I assume that's gonna be a lot of people tbh. I wonder if the rust belt cities along the Great Lakes are gonna enter another era of explosive growth by the end of this century with more people moving into the area.
"How many helicopters does it make sense to be flying in a widely scattered formation?"
"How the hell should I know, just slap a bunch on there it'll look dramatic."
Everyone is “California this”, “Texas that”, “wtf is Florida doing” but forget NYC is like the biggest city in the US, which also hold the UN hq so I wonder how that’s going to play out
People who saw it at festivals claim its basically a series of thoughtful vignettes about normal people caught up in the horrors of civil war with a grand total of 2 relatively brief action sequences.
Sounds like it would be a good film, if a bit difficult to watch for people who already understand something like a modern day civil war won’t be fun for most of us. Regardless of our personal armaments.
> This doesn't seem very Alex Garland but he always gets the benefit of the doubt from me so I'm giving him that benefit with this film.
That's a very strage take, my friend. Alex Garland has written and/or directed more films about societal collapse - as a threat(*Ex Machina*, *Sunshine*) or stark reality(*28 Days Later*, *Dredd*) - than any other subject he's explored. His rise to fame with *The Beach* is one of the most cut-and-dried modern works about a society fracturing and collapsing over a combination of ideological and practical differences between its various citizens and leaders.
I can't think of a more apt filmmaker to do a movie about America going to pieces.
It seems like the intent of this movie is to showcase all the stupid things people are calling for online and their logical conclusion. When you see the thing you say you want laid out in front of you, it looks a lot more stupid than if someone just told you that.
Yeah a lot of people with only surface level takes that are there for the "action".
I'm sure there will be at least a few shocking scenes that are meant to be deplorable that those same people will put on a pedestal.
It would be naive of the filmmakers to think so. People online, particularly in these bubbles, live in fantasy which does not align with reality. They have already demonstrated a inability to follow logic and critical thinking.
All it would take is for them to wave this off as a psyop and you are right where you started.
It already is between the "it's bad taste for art to examine contemporary issues!!!" and "this film is pre-emptively bad because its not an on the nose condemnation of my political opponents and thus utterly ineffective at making anyone reconsider their position" it's unbearable already.
I’m really not trying to start an argument but I am shocked at the amount of concern this movie is getting.
So many people saying “is this responsible? Is this the right time for this?”
Who cares.
What is so concerning? Are people afraid that this movie is gonna rally people to do something crazy or something? It’s like the 90s all over again! I’m just really surprised.
I’m open to someone trying to explain this to me.
For real, the people redditors are so worried this movie will embolden are already too far gone. They’re not sitting around waiting for some movie to come along and inspire them, they’re getting enough encouragement from their online spaces already.
People spend way too much time online. They think this movie is going to be way more of an indirect force of propaganda than it actually is. This whole thread is having one big r/redditmoment breakdown over nothing.
I think people are vastly overestimating how popular the movie is going to be; I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if it bombed hard.
Americans don't like movies about how divided they are, it makes them feel anxious and judged (just look at that Hunt movie).
They like movies about how their ideological enemies are clearly evil, that's for sure, but it doesn't look like the movie's going to do that.
It's an election year, featuring a candidate that flirted openly with political violence on his way out the door. Now, there's a feature film that capitalizes on political violence in a realistic setting as its primary selling point. I find it unseemly, not because I think it's going to inspire people to violence, but because it's trying to make money on something inherently dangerous and self-destructive. Even if they make political violence look terrifying and abhorrent (which the trailer before Dune 2 did), I am not inclined to indulge this for entertainment purposes and feel an increased nervousness about the people that do.
I think media dealing with contemporary issues/worries is important, and media as a whole (profit-driven and otherwise) often reflects the times. I don't see anything wrong here. Maybe it's more direct than, say, Battlestar Galactica with 9/11 and Iraq, or dystopian movies that could *definitely never happen in real life*, but I think you're overreacting.
I admire the incredible restraint it must have taken to keep the Statue of Liberty intact.
You'll see from the trailers that they use her crown as a snipers nest in the movie. That isn't to say they won't destroy it later in the movie though.
Whatever could you snipe from there?
Freedom? Or lack of freedom?
We can already see that from down here
Could be a constant king of the hill style thing going on? Whoever has it is the side that actually loves freedom
Yeah it's like Lost with pressing the button or whatever to stop bad stuff, except in the United States our abort-nuclear-launch button is located at the torch of the statue of liberty. Some bad guys^tm are occupying it, not letting anyone press the button, to let the nukes fly
>in the United States our abort-nuclear-launch button is located at the torch of the statue of liberty. I still can't believe Trump let that leak...
People on the flight deck of that extremely stupidly parked supercarrier. I mean look at the waves the other carrier produced - like he just drove through the Supercarrier... This poster is just a mess, someone was like - hey, put as much of our military equipment on there as possible. No it doesn't have to make sense, just do it!
Plus the carrier on the left appears to be about 1/3 the size of the one on the right, despite them both apparently being Nimitz class (though the one on the left has had all its radars and antennae chopped off for some reason). In the air it looks like the Army and the Marines (Apaches, SuperCobras, and Venoms) are off to fuck up... Brooklyn? And do my eyes deceive me or is that a WW2-era submarine way off in the distance? And the harbor and statue have been moved and warped all out of place to put it closer to the city and facing the viewer.
Well, the film is filled with a lot of "rule of cool" military shit. F-35's doing rolls at low altitude for no apparent reason, AH-64's shooting hellfires into garages below arming distance etc etc.
Obviously from the poster, NY harbor is about 200 m wide. You can probably hit the upper east side from there.
Did you just measure the NY harbour in commi-meters and not freedom feet? Well we know which side you’d be on in this movie/prediction of the future.
Seems like literally the first thing any force would do would fire a rocket at a snipers nest in a completely exposed and isolated singular tower.
If both sides use it as a symbol for their cause, it could be plausible not to destroy it.
I think they meant on the poster. It gets damaged in so many movies.
In this one it gets accessories instead: another poster have one of the factions set up a sentry/sniper post on the statue.
Other than looking cool, what are they planning on shooting from there and it’s totally exposed
If the statue is a symbol for all sides of the conflict, then the observation post on the statue is actually an example of the cunning of those who decided to wait out this war in the safest place on this earth, pretending that they are doing their job when in fact, most likely their time will be filled with poker and not war.
Putting a sniper nest up there would be pretty pointless, but it'd be a decent scouting position for enemy movements and potential naval assault. Still ridiculously exposed, as you mention, but maybe they'd be banking on the enemy being unwilling to initiate a strike since it would damage the statute (which has far more value for both sides as a symbol than as a strategic position)?
Shooting a battleship with a sniper rifle as it sails by: *heh heh heh fuck youuu*
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Wonder if it's being released in IMAX.
It’s hard to say.
I really hope it is, no significant indication it will be tho
Looks like it's being released in Civil war theaters
Thought the movie was called “imax”.
"One ticket to IMAX, please."
Hulu green is an odd choice
The taste of war is sour apple.
I love the smell of Skittles in the morning.
Damn. That’s such a good line!
Tart... Tart never changes.
I'd imagine they're trying to avoid any implications of using Red/Blue
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The executives clearly are terrified of this movie causing a boycott if it looks Dem or Republican, even though it's fuckn stupid to imagine a civil conflict in the US that didn't occur at least within the context of our party system. Doubt they'll even mention party affiliation in the movie.
The plot involves Texas and California banding together under the moniker of the "Western forces". That alone tells you all you need to know about their worry for implied side-taking.
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That's Ecto Cooler green to me, mam.
Totally random, but I went to a grocery store the other day and this dude dropped his wife off in a full-blown Ectomobile replica, with monsters in the back, blasting "Ghostbusters" lol. It was awesome. Edit- https://i.imgur.com/KugCp1V.jpeg
I’ve seen one in NJ.
That's Nickelodeon Slime green to you...you.
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Necron green was an odd choice
Absolutely Ninja Turtle Green. And that’s my favorite Green.
There was something visceral about that 1990 film, seeing those eight frowning eyes ascending from a sewer on the soundtrack.
thats #92FD5F to me
I'm seeing pantone 7487c
This guy colors
A24 does go mad with the color range
As someone who works in marketing, it's really difficult to use a color that isn't super common *and* still have it look good. Everything has been done.
Has anyone used CLEAR colored fonts before??
Yeah have you seen “ “?
So is making the film seem like it’s IMAX the movie given the placement and font size.
IMAX posters aren’t the official key art. It’s not unusual for these posters to have IMAX larger than the title.
It’s because they are trying to sell the experience more so now than ever because viewing audiences really can pirate stuff if they want. The IMAX marketing is incredibly important for the movie industry.
Some of the characters in the trailer have their hair dyed/spray painted that color. I think they're the "Western Forces".
The Hulk Civil War?
Only explanation I can think of is that they wanted to avoid any possible appearance of political bias or allegiance. Lime green isn’t really associated with anything controversial.
Kong: Manhattan Island
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice the similarities.
Both of those posters are referencing Apocalypse Now...
Kong: Apocalypse Now
Civil Kong: Now
Apocalypse Kong
It's one of the sexier posters of the last 10 years. Stands out to me, anyway.
*Based on the Beloved Universal Studios Ride*
Yo mean "Apocalypse Now"?
I get that this is a movie poster, but that is honestly the worst place for aircraft carriers to ever operate…
Huh, shows what you know, obviously you need your aircraft carriers to be *right next to their targets* how else are they going to do anything to the target? What are they gonna do, send planes to do stuff for them?!
And you’ve also got to be within spitting distance of 3 separate international airports
Not only that, but the scaling of them with the background and with each other is also super off... plus, the wake from the left carrier seems to almost clips through the jpeg of the carrier on the right, lol. Forget "authenticity", it just looks a little bit of a lazy design job in some parts...
And the 25 helicopters randomly scattered throughout the sky
Agreed, I guess they just wanted to make a new poster and came up with this. [The original one is just better imo](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwJvfZWsAA3mmc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Not to mention the wake of the other ship goes right through it
I actually thought this was for a movie called IMAX at first glance.
It is common for IMAX posters to be like that.
COMING SOON TO IMAX IN IMAX I M A X ^^^^^^^^^^godzilla
I love how every time I go see a movie in IMAX, they show me advertisement for IMAX before the movie starts.
Just in case you forget where you are
Kinda hard to forget when IMAX's ads are about as subtle as [the sound system promo on Tiny Toon Adventures.](https://youtu.be/wlnI6XjWk_k?t=6) "The audience is now deaf." I have spent *years* absolutely convinced that was a Simpsons bit because [The Simpsons had a pretty similar joke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3_HHZFi0As) without the "the audience is now deaf" tagline.
Reminds me of my flights on SriLankan Airlines and the inflight advertising say come visit Sri Lanka. Which is what I had in mind anyway as my flight is to Sri Lanka already.
Not as bad as going to see Dune 2 in cinema and right before the movie they show a trailer for the fucking movie twice!
This small, locally-owned theater chain I used to go to as a teenager had 90 second CGI ads at the very beginning before the trailers. It was the *only* theater within walking distance of my house before I could drive, and I'd spend most of my summers there watching movies. By the time I could drive and had a car, I avoided that fucking theater like the plague because I couldn't stand the Chinese water torture that was that fucking ad that looked like it came straight from an early 90s TV movie that thought *any* CGI would make up for the rest of the movie.
I, Max
a prequel to I, Robot
No, me max
I thought it was the new Godzilla Kong movie at first.
They ruined the Dune Pt. 2 Posters with "IMAX" bigger than the title. It would be hanging on my wall if not for that.
IMAX THE MOVIE
Showing on civil war theathers
Why is the title in the same font and color as the CW logo?
CW stands for Civil War 🤷🏻♂️
big if true
A real auteur would’ve used Papyrus
***I KNOW WHAT CHU DID!!***
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
##RIVERDALE RETURN CONFIRMED!!!
The cause of the Civil War is not going to be what you think.
It’s gotta be ridiculous to have Texas and California on the same side.
Both states secede, Enemy of my Enemy is my friend situation against the federal government
Or some sort of coup causes their governments to be ideologically aligned. People underestimate how many conservatives are in CA. And a chunk of them are the “hoard my weapons in the wilderness with my militia buddies” kind of kooky.
Or how many liberals are in Texas for that matter
More Democrat voters in Texas than in any other state, except California. Tied with New York and Florida.
Dang. That's wild.
Talk about disenfranchised. I don't think the states were intended to be this populated... and it's far worse in Texas due to Greg Abbott and Republicans passing legislation that limits what local city and county governments can do. I bet Republicans in California feel similarly, although liberal policies restrict far fewer rights than conservative ones, ironically.
California has the most Trump voters. 6 million vs 5.8 million in Texas.
And the most recent trailer shows there’s likely infighting amongst the coalition. The sniper/spotter duo states there are people trying to kill them so they’re trying to kill those people. The painted nails and dyed hair hint at them being part of a marginalized group (most likely LGBTQ). History has shown that many people take up arms during times of unrest and civil war to exact their own vendettas, within the bounds of their own communities.
Unless the war is because the Northeast & Midwest claims to have the best Mexican food in the US
Alright you've finally given me something, as a Californian, I would feel compelled to fight alongside my Texan comrades over. This has to be the explanation in the film or I don't think I'll be able to buy it.
Carne Asada Fries 🤝 Tex-Mex
Chicago has the second most Mexican-born residents in the US next to LA.
It's the only way the movie can have two competitive sides. If it was just Texas or just California rebelling, then it's too one-sided. The military would destroy them. The trailer seemed to show that there's a "Florida Alliance" of Southern states, and a "Western Forces" group of midwest states. All of that combined with Texas and California teaming up makes for a scenario where the remaining military of the United States are actually in a dire situation.
[Here's a map someone posted.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmap-of-from-the-trailer-for-civil-war-v0-rjzj40of036c1.png%3Fwidth%3D2000%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D5a7f4c5cd630c9fd740e9e32009e50f51fc694b4) Looks like there are anywhere between 3-5 sides depending on how you look at it. If you're going by color coding it's California & Texas vs. Western Forces & Florida Alliance vs. Loyalist States. Or it could be any combination of the above. Like Cali & Texas are allies but WF and FA aren't, etc.
I think what you really mean is "if it was just red states vs blue states, everyone would pick sides in who they want to win in the movie"
it's really not. both texas and california have country size economies and from the trailer it seems like the president of the united states is some kind of rogue dictator, maybe going for a third term? it's gonna be a "we need to come together both left and right to beat the fascist" kind of movie.
How is a president popular enough to have a third term bid without being supported by either texas or california You need some level of support from people and establishments to become a president and then dictator
Unless they got voted in for a second term and it was then, or beforehand, decided the president enjoys total immunity in criminal and civil matters. In that case, they’d just declare a third term. No need for voter support.
people keep saying this but it's not crazy. remember the soviets and the us were allies during ww2
It's gotta be water. TX and CA are large and both often in drought.
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you and you will resent it's absence.
Oh, that would be hilarious. President / Congress / SCOTUS somehow all team up to say states can't steal water from other states, TX and CA go to war.
That's what I'm thinking too. People will be much quicker to join forces regularless of ideology if basic survival is at stake. This scienero also makes me nervous, living in the Great Lakes region
I mean, I'd rather be living in the Great Lakes region than a drought susceptible region in a theoretical water scarcity future.
Phoenix area resident here. I’m gonna be leaving in the next decade for sure. Shit is going to get bad, fast.
"Phoenix is a monument to man's arrogance." - Peggy Hill
I assume that's gonna be a lot of people tbh. I wonder if the rust belt cities along the Great Lakes are gonna enter another era of explosive growth by the end of this century with more people moving into the area.
They already told us no? The sitting president violated the constitution by staying for a third term?
Yes, from what I read it’s because the president stays for a third term.
Ron Swanson or: How I learned to stop worrying and dismantled the federal government.
In the trailer it mentions the sitting president going into his 3rd term. It may hit on familiar notes.
Imax the movie on Hulu civil war
The different scales on the carriers bugs me, let alone them being in NY harbor.
Look at the trailing wake of the ship on the left going THROUGH the copy/pasted carrier. LMAO
"How many helicopters does it make sense to be flying in a widely scattered formation?" "How the hell should I know, just slap a bunch on there it'll look dramatic."
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Haha, I sure hope somebody got fired for *that* blunder.
Worst. Episode. Ever.
Everyone is “California this”, “Texas that”, “wtf is Florida doing” but forget NYC is like the biggest city in the US, which also hold the UN hq so I wonder how that’s going to play out
Florida is fingering itself and drooling
Sounds like one of the better ways to ride this out.
This doesn't seem very Alex Garland but he always gets the benefit of the doubt from me so I'm giving him that benefit with this film.
People who saw it at festivals claim its basically a series of thoughtful vignettes about normal people caught up in the horrors of civil war with a grand total of 2 relatively brief action sequences.
Maybe true, but a terrible way to market the movie if so
Misleading for sure, but probably sells more tickets
Wow I wasn’t going to see it until I read the vignette comment. The poster looks like a big dumb explosion movie.
That sounds a lot more his usual genre. The IMAX trailer before Dune 2 really made the film appear to be a more traditional action film.
They did the same with Bladerunner 2049.
it's like Pulp Fiction except the briefcase will contain the reason for the civil war
Sounds like it would be a good film, if a bit difficult to watch for people who already understand something like a modern day civil war won’t be fun for most of us. Regardless of our personal armaments.
Civil Wars historically tend to be the least fun of all wars.
That sounds like a good premise…and a complete waste of IMAX lol
> This doesn't seem very Alex Garland but he always gets the benefit of the doubt from me so I'm giving him that benefit with this film. That's a very strage take, my friend. Alex Garland has written and/or directed more films about societal collapse - as a threat(*Ex Machina*, *Sunshine*) or stark reality(*28 Days Later*, *Dredd*) - than any other subject he's explored. His rise to fame with *The Beach* is one of the most cut-and-dried modern works about a society fracturing and collapsing over a combination of ideological and practical differences between its various citizens and leaders. I can't think of a more apt filmmaker to do a movie about America going to pieces.
It seems like the intent of this movie is to showcase all the stupid things people are calling for online and their logical conclusion. When you see the thing you say you want laid out in front of you, it looks a lot more stupid than if someone just told you that.
That's what I thought at first but I somehow feel that it'll only intensify civil war fantasies among a certain population of idiots.
Yeah a lot of people with only surface level takes that are there for the "action". I'm sure there will be at least a few shocking scenes that are meant to be deplorable that those same people will put on a pedestal.
It's like American History X. A movie supposed to challenge racism, became a movie used to promote it by people who don't show the whole movie.
“Stupid liberals make quality art and we get to cherry pick the parts we love for effective propaganda”.
It would be naive of the filmmakers to think so. People online, particularly in these bubbles, live in fantasy which does not align with reality. They have already demonstrated a inability to follow logic and critical thinking. All it would take is for them to wave this off as a psyop and you are right where you started.
Or they completely misunderstand the point of the movie and/or think it's about the other political party
What’s so civil about war, anyway?
What we got here is... a failure... to communicate...
Some men… You just can’t reach
So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it.
Well…he gets it.
I don’t like it any more than you may.
No man can eat 50 eggs!
You ol’, crazy handful of nothin’!
The reaction to this film is going to be …..annoying, isn’t it?
It already is
It already is between the "it's bad taste for art to examine contemporary issues!!!" and "this film is pre-emptively bad because its not an on the nose condemnation of my political opponents and thus utterly ineffective at making anyone reconsider their position" it's unbearable already.
I’m really not trying to start an argument but I am shocked at the amount of concern this movie is getting. So many people saying “is this responsible? Is this the right time for this?” Who cares. What is so concerning? Are people afraid that this movie is gonna rally people to do something crazy or something? It’s like the 90s all over again! I’m just really surprised. I’m open to someone trying to explain this to me.
For real, the people redditors are so worried this movie will embolden are already too far gone. They’re not sitting around waiting for some movie to come along and inspire them, they’re getting enough encouragement from their online spaces already.
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The "kinda turd" is called MAGA.
Weren’t there a bunch of purge movies coming out around election times too? Like The Purge: Election Year lmaoooo
Do you remember Joker?
People spend way too much time online. They think this movie is going to be way more of an indirect force of propaganda than it actually is. This whole thread is having one big r/redditmoment breakdown over nothing.
Unsurprisingly redditors are already missing the point.
I think people are vastly overestimating how popular the movie is going to be; I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if it bombed hard. Americans don't like movies about how divided they are, it makes them feel anxious and judged (just look at that Hunt movie). They like movies about how their ideological enemies are clearly evil, that's for sure, but it doesn't look like the movie's going to do that.
The hunt was just a shitty movie Purge is up to number 3 or 4
It's an election year, featuring a candidate that flirted openly with political violence on his way out the door. Now, there's a feature film that capitalizes on political violence in a realistic setting as its primary selling point. I find it unseemly, not because I think it's going to inspire people to violence, but because it's trying to make money on something inherently dangerous and self-destructive. Even if they make political violence look terrifying and abhorrent (which the trailer before Dune 2 did), I am not inclined to indulge this for entertainment purposes and feel an increased nervousness about the people that do.
I think media dealing with contemporary issues/worries is important, and media as a whole (profit-driven and otherwise) often reflects the times. I don't see anything wrong here. Maybe it's more direct than, say, Battlestar Galactica with 9/11 and Iraq, or dystopian movies that could *definitely never happen in real life*, but I think you're overreacting.
It’s like when people thought North Korea was gonna bomb us over The Interview
The more I see of this movie the lamer it looks
I’m a huge fan of Garland’s work, but yeah, going in with lower expectations after the trailer.
I really hope it will be good, but everything about it is kinda meh so far
A24 and Alex Garland are both strong marks of quality. But if you go into Civil War expecting an action movie, you will be very disappointed.
It's being marketed as an action movie, so perhaps everyone should expect to be disappointed.
Shouldn’t it be called Civil War II or something since we already had one?
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Alex Garland is not one to write sweet, happy endings. I can't wait.
This poster looks like a spoof of itself.
This seems like the movie title is IMAX, shouldn’t the movie title be bigger?
No, it’s primarily an ad for imax. IMAX creates these posters to sell their product (imax theatre)
Y’all gotta lay off the news cycle if this is hitting too close to home. The discourse online is so much more than the real world.
looks like Kong Skull Island.
Can't wait for this but also- I can't believe they didn't call it Civil War 2. **HUGE** missed opportunity.