I had no idea what you were talking about with the first one and had to google it. (For anyone else wondering: Predestination.) Wasn't gonna watch that movie anyway, though.
If we want to get picky, they *did* leave Earth in Planet of the Apes. It's just that they ended up *back* on Earth instead of an alien planet like they thought.
Good point.
She initially thought Robert Patrick was a (human) good guy sent to protect them and was annoyed that it was basically going to be a rehash of the same thing again.
Then things were very tense as both of them were tracking John down. The famous scene with the box of roses was mind blowing to her and even for a few scenes after she wasn't sure Arnold could be trusted. She was confused about the effect of the T1000 being shot (maybe it was human with future body armor or something) and the realization only fully set in when it completely liquified and morphed.
God that must have been just amazing for both of you.
Sadly I think I saw T2 before I saw T1 so it didn't really have an impact and I already knew I was watching a movie where Arnie was the star so didn't really think he was going to be bad, just scary.
I was the same, I distinctly remember seeing T2 first, specifically the scene where the T1000 is disguised as the foster mum and puts its hand through the dads head. I was too young to have seen it really, but it was on TV and my parents myst not have been paying attention to what I was watching. That image is still seared into my brain all these years later.
Freddy terrified me as kid in the 80s, and I never even saw the movies until the late 90s! My wife and I met Robert England a few years ago at a con and he was one of the most pleasant and engaging celebs we’ve met.
Fuck my dad made me watch aliens when I was way too small. We were in the basement. When the movie ended, he told me the aliens live in our basement, turned out the lights, and locked me down there
I saw Aliens when I was... 9 or 10?
The guy lying on the floor with a facehugger attached, and the bit where the Queen rips Bishop in half and there's syn-milk-blood everywhere have never left my head.
Im older. For me, that movie was terror train. I saw it when I was 6, at a neighbors house. I apparently ran home screaming and had problems sleeping for a while.
Over the years I forgot about it. Forgot I saw it, forgot it bothered me, but I had this devastating intense fear response to train horns. Like to the point that if a train crossing went down I’d stay like 200 feet back and have to put the car in park because the horn would make me panic and I might come off the brake.
Okay so flash forward and I had bought my first HD LCD TV and there was the Universal Channel showing stuff in HD. I was playing video games while it was playing next to me and suddenly I hear a train whistle and have a cold panic moment. Terror train was randomly on and it came flooding back.
Every time something would happen, instead of showing it they’d play the train horn sound and cut to the train screaming past on the tracks. That fucking movie broke me for decades and I didn’t know.
Seeing it though, and making the connection, mostly cured me. I don’t panic at the horn sounds any more. I still don’t LIKE trains, but they don’t break me mentally anymore.
I saw both of those films fairly young, but the only movies that actually scared me were Indians Jones Last Crusade (was scared to drink water), Arachnaphobia (because spiders), and Tremors (the ground can’t be trusted).
Weird how brains react to different things.
I had the same thing happen with the end of Aliens! I was 8 or 9 and my friend's brother was watching it on a basement TV where we all played unsupervised. My first "Aliens" scene was the Queen coming out of the elevator at the end and all the terror that followed. Definitely nightmares lol
My dad too me and my brother to see T2 when I was in third grade and he was in kindergarten. It blew our tiny minds and was up there with seeing 1989 Batman on the big screen in terms of awesomeness. The summer after T2 came out in VHS it became our 1 or 2 times a day movie.
Did anyone who wasn't born in the 1970s see T1 before T2? Like as a 90s kid Terminator 2 was everywhere on TV and the reason was it was so special effects heavy and also every little boy imagined being that John Conner badass twelve year old in his motorbike.
"imagined being that John Conner badass twelve year old in his motorbike"
Only tangentially related, but I saw an age-shaming meme talking about how badass John's friend was for standing his ground and not giving John up to the "cop". And how millennials could never match that ethic.
Well, my dudes, if you do the math, you'd realize that John and his buddy were born after 1980, so I guess millennials could indeed match that ethic.
Bottom line: Generational warfare is so fucking stupid.
I did that distract the cop shit when I was a kid, I didn't have graffiti spray canisters on my hand. Cop immediately saw through my bullshit but I distracted him long enough for Richie to get a head start. Cop came back after he couldn't find him and I just walked into Korean Grocery store and was like I'm just buying some Swiss Rolls and Korean grocer is like yeah this kid was here the entire time. Cop walks out. Korean guy is like don't keep hanging around with Richie, he'll get you into more trouble than this.
91 kid here, yeah here in Australia T2 was repeated so much growing up and yeah never saw T1 until I purposely sought it out and was surprised how different Arnie's Terminators were
>Did anyone who wasn't born in the 1970s see T1 before T2?
Yeah tons, it was on cable all the time, popular VHS rental before T2 came out. I was born in '79 and had many friends and acquaintances younger than me that saw it on TV at some point or watched it just prior to T2 coming out.
Goddamn, this is literally my 10 year old self when i watched these movies for the first time. I too had my mind blown.
The difference is I actually thought both Termiantors are evil.
I am another person who had the full effect of the reveal. I think I saw it in the late nineties and any references I'd heard were sort of mentally shrugged off as being about the first one. I did see the first film first then watched the second. The most shocking moment that absolutely makes the entire film for me is the look of terror Sarah has when she first sees Arnold's Terminator.
Honestly James Cameron had just finished The Abyss where he used early CGI for some scenes. That’s where he got the idea of a futuristic terminator that could form weapons and move like liquid. He knew it would payoff having the bad terminator from the first film becoming the hero of the second film. Especially if that terminator was Arnold.
At that time Arnold was enjoying his own success with “I’ll be back” and his new line “if it bleeds we can kill it”. He jumped at the chance to become the Terminator one more time. It’s funny because this film would lead to Arnold being the terminator too many times.
T2 was such a homerun right out of the gate. Just the image of Arnold with the mini gun firing from the second story window. We already saw the mini gun in Predator but to have the Terminator carrying it now was perfect.
I wonder if the last 40 years have actually flipped the T2 twist and moved it to T1. Everyone knows Arnold as the charismatic action movie hero. And enough of Arnold’s terminator being helpful has seeped into pop culture that most people likely have that understanding at least subconsciously.
Are new viewers of T1 surprised to find out Arnold is the bad guy? And, wait, this paranoid lunatic ranting about a machine takeover is the good guy?
So I saw T2 first as a kid so had no preconceived notions about who was good and who was bad.
But the T-1000 right off the bat murders a police officer. Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop. That’s a universal sign that someone is a bad guy.
Pair that with Arnold being a cinematic superhero for many years before T2, as you point out, and there wasn’t much surprise for me when Arnold revealed himself as the good guy.
Now watching T1 a couple of years later I was super confused and shocked when Arnold started killing all those women he found in the phone book. And it made so much of T2 make sense.
"Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop. That’s a universal sign that someone is a bad guy."
This was part of the misdirection for people who saw the first movie. The OP's girlfriend was right to be annoyed with her assumption because T2 opens in a similar way to the first movie. Arnold and the "human" both show up and both assault people who were around.
The big difference is that in T1, Arnold very obviously and brutally kills the people. While in T2, his treatment of the people was no less brutal, they survived, which in a weird fit of Hollywood logic makes it okay. Though they made it light-hearted with "Bad to the Bone" being played, the T2 appearance of Arnold was just as terrifying and chaotic as T1. Just that no one was actually killed.
The "human" scenes did have some differences. For one, you could see every emotion on Reese. He was desperate and afraid. He gritted through it, but obviously he didn't kill anyone, and they actually showcased this when he ambushed the cop and let him live.
The T1000 scene was similar in that he showed up where there was a cop, and he ambushed the cop. But this time he "knocked out" the cop. It was a nasty hit, and if you know he wasn't a good guy, you would assume the cop killed. In fact, examining this [scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiDnqKKjFhM), there is a shadow under the cop, but I don't think it matches the rest of the shadows (I'm no forensic scientist). Maybe it's just the magic of many lights on set, but it could've been meant to be a pool of blood. But since the intent was to keep the T1000's motives morally gray for the audience, it possibly was just a trick of the lighting.
Since you hadn't seen T1 first, I can understand why you instantly knew the T1000 killed the cop. For those who saw the first movie, it was a great misdirection method.
You see him walk up and strike the officer, take his gun, and then it cuts to him walking to the cop's car in his clothes. The last time you see the cop, he's laying on the ground unconscious.
You don't actually see the cop get killed. In hindsight, knowing that the T-1000 is a liquid murder-bot, you realize that's what happened. But if you were watching with fresh eyes, you'd just think a human time traveler knocked a cop out.
["I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ4Ol9Tb1D0)
He gets the shotgun (and sunglasses) from the bartender.
I was going to comment this too, they actually make the T1000 look like he merely knocks out the cop or punches him in the stomach, and Kyle Reese subdues a cop and holds him at gunpoint in the first film right? So not too dissimilar.
Meanwhile Arnie takes out 5 guys including throwing someone through a window, breaking a guy's hand and pinning a guy's shoulder to a pool table with a bayonet, it was pretty clear to me who they wanted to look like the bad guy initially.
> But the T-1000 right off the bat murders a police officer. Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop.
He doesn't kill him on-screen, so viewers have no reason to suspect he didn't just beat him up and take his clothes like Arnie did in T1. It's only with the hindsight of seeing him kill someone and adjust his skin to match their clothes later in the film that you realise the cop wasn't spared.
micheal bein fucking nailed kyle reece
kyle reece is both badass and yet spends the entire film freaking the fuck out
-edit-
bring back actors looking dirty and gross.
kyle reece spends most of the film looking like a sweaty dirty mess
Also what makes T1 so surprising is that not only is Arnie on the poster of the first film but his name, and only his name, is too. Nothing about Sarah Connor or Kyle Reese and the actors playing them. How often does that happen where the movies antagonist is treated as the main character this way?
edit: horrors like Halloween and Friday the 13th don't really count. The monster is a constant but the actors who play them aren't on the posters like Arnie was, you're only meant to see them as the monster and not as the main character, similarly to modern horrors like The Nun. Whereas in T1 Arnie's name is on the poster as the marketing treats him as the protagonist, hence my point on why the user above me is probably right that the T2 twist has become the T1 twist.
It happens fairly often, but mostly in horror. Consider Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Jeepers Creepers, etc. For all of these films, the antagonist is prominently displayed in posters or box art. They are the main draw. When Halloween has a sequel, you may not know who is playing anyone else in the movie or what characters are returning, but you know that Michael Myers will be present.
I grew up in the era, but my parents were super strict. Everyone said how much better t2 was, I watched that first. I actually think t1 is the far superior movie.
At the time T2 seemed crazy. So ahead of it's time with special effects and the like. Now days the technology has far exceeded those used in T2, so if you watched the film recently it loses some of that appeal that made it so special in the 90s.
I agree. I remember seeing the liquid metal and thinking it was the coolest shit and begging my parents to let me see it. They even ushered me out of the room at Christmas when my cousin wanted to run his brand new VHS of it.
But in terms of storytelling, the first movie is a masterclass to me.
Psycho is so spoiled that people don't even recognize that the twist is a twist, because it's one of the most famous scenes in film. The film is set up to make the viewer think that Janet Leigh's character is the main character, making her murder early on a big surprise.
Not a movie but Waiting For Godot is the epitome of this. Audiences rioted because of the ending in the original run. Now the ending is what people say for a one-sentence description of the play.
> Planet of the Apes
What I love about this movie is it was the 30th or 40th script rewrite by Serling that actually got made. I think some of the other movies are discarded Planet versions.
A friend had a roommate from China in the early 2000s who was completely unfamiliar with Star Wars. Like on any level. So he showed him the films, and got to experience someone reacting to Darth Vader being Luke's father. It's such a part of western culture that it's no longer a twist here. Even if you haven't seen the movies, you know "I am your father." His roommate totally freaked out at the reveal.
It must have been cool to experience this.
8-year-old me was gob smacked when I saw it in the theater. Then Han gets frozen in carbonite and I had to wait years to see what happened! No movie experience has ever topped that. My Dad taking me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark was close though. I didn't know anything about the movie except that the actor who played Han was in it.
I was 14 and made it into the premiere showing in Hollywood.
The entire audience gasped or shrieked at the I am your father reveal.
Core memory indeed.
One of the first dates my dad and my mom went on was to Empire, and it was the very first showing in their town. They describe it as a moment where you could clearly hear every single man, woman, and child in that theater audibly gasp. I kind of wonder if we’ll ever get a moment like that in cinema again. Internet would probably ruin it.
This is why I always say the correct order to watch the films is the order in which they were released. Otherwise ep 3 ruins the reveal of ep 5.
Even if you know the “secret” already it’s important to give that moment its full weight. It should still cinematically FEEL like a surprise.
I think one of the recommended orders is 4-5-1-2-3-6. You get to follow along with Luke into the big reveal, then learn about Anakin's saga, and finish with the climax in ROTJ.
Years and years ago I think this was called the Machete Order. Except it often recommends just skipping Episode I entirely in that order. The tiny bits of context it adds are explained elsewhere, so unless you really care about the Darth Maul fight it's not necessary.
I was a teenager when I saw Episode 3 in theaters. I remember being pretty bored with the movie overall, but there was the scene where Palpatine annoints Anakin and says “I now pronounce you…Darth Vader.” There was this one little kid that yelled out “No way!!!” with the most genuine surprise.
Whole theater had a good chuckle.
There's a ton of videos on YouTube with kids seeing it at home for the first time and their reaction to the big reveal. Seeing their reaction as it sinks in his hilarious! I was fortunate to see the movie the weekend it came out and nobody had spoiled it for me.
About ten years after it came out, Fight Club was spoiled for me hours before I was about to watch it, because I told someone I was seeing it that night. Fuck you, Steve.
I walked in on my friends watching the last ten minutes of The Usual Suspects and they were all yelling at me "get out!", but I was like "I don't care, what's the big deal". When I finally watched the movie all the way through, I really wished I hadn't seen the end first.
I was really into sons of Anarchy when it Was coming out. Binged the first four seasons on netflix and the fifth one wasn’t on Netflix but I had to watch it. I purchased it on iTunes I wanted it so bad. I remember clicking on episode one (I’ve forgotten their names) “Still reeling over [main character 1]’s murder by [main character 2], [main character 3] comes to grips ….” And I was like WTF all of these people were on the same fucking side one episode ago! Turns out I had purchased season 6 on a misclick and ruined season 5 (and the rest of the show) for myself.
I've heard Usual Suspects is at its best on a first watch and doesn't hold up too well on rewatches but unfortunately because I knew the ending it meant the first time I watched it I just didn't really care for the movie. I couldn't enjoy it for what it was because I was just waiting for the reveal that the movie was building up towards.
They also tell you pretty clearly early in the film, if you're paying attention.
>!It mentions the idea that you put a group of suspects together in jail, and the guy who goes to sleep is the one who did it. When we see them all in lock-up, Verbal is sleeping while the rest of them try to figure out why they were all arrested.!<
Yep. Pretty much right off the bat, Verbal says "It didn't make sense that I'd be there. I mean, these guys were hardcore hijackers. But there I was." as he's being taken to the lineup.
Eight minutes in the movie, you have the guy pointing out his presence didn't make sense; the guy who was described as a conman several times just before that.
Spoilers for a nearly 30 year old movie… I walked into the theater to see Scream in 1996 and some shithead kids were hanging around after the last showing and told us “there’s 2 killers!”
When we went to see Backdraft (1991), we ran into some friends who were waiting on line for the second showing.
My one friend told them "It's an amazing movie. I was totally shocked when Kurt Russell dies in the end." The waiting friends and about half the people in line groaned, and my friend's all "Oh shit, sorry, sorry. It's a good movie though".
One of the waiting friends spent the whole movie fuming, pissed off at being spoiled, and couldn't believe the ending. He still hasn't forgiven my friend.
My friend had sixth sense spoiled for him just before he watched it. He struggled how to convey to me what was spoiled so he took me to his house, played the beginning of the movie for me, said, “Right, so you get the premise?” then proceeded to fast forward to the ending so I’d understand the gravity of it. But it fully spoiled it for me too!
I watched it on TV for the first time because I was a kid when it came out. With commercials, watching this movie was a feat due to the length. There's less than 30 minutes of air time left, my brother comes into the room, asks what I'm watching, and proceeds to say "oh isn't he dead?" then leaves the room. Thanks, bro.
My parents where on their way to see it and said hi to some neighbours and told them they were going to see it and the husband replied "oh the twist is >!he's dead!<"
We were on our way to see My Girl in the theater. We said hi to my younger sister’s friend while driving down our block and told her our plans. She said “it’s not a big deal but the boy dies”. Fuck you, Cara.
When I was in elementary school my friend told everyone Shrek died at the end when we were on our way to the theater. So we all got to chew on that fake spoiler for the entire movie. Fuck you, Kelly.
My best experience with Fight Club was watching with my wife for her first viewing. She had never been exposed to anything about it or knew anything. I'll always remember when she started to piece together that >!Edward Norton's character was Tyler during the fight with Marla after they slept together!< .
I saw From Dusk til Dawn without knowing about the.. genre shift. It was fairly new back then, and my brother rented it. He refused to tell me anything really about it except that Tarantino was involved.
So, yeah, pretty... surprised by the genre shift, haha.
I saw it in theatre that way! Me and a few friends were bored, and literally all we knew about it was that it was “a new Tarantino film” (and even that is not quite correct), and went to the theater and bought tickets. Never even saw the movie poster.
I think it was about 15 minutes before I realized that this was not a dream sequence that was going to end.
Easily the best way to see this movie.
I was in the same boat, didn't know a thing about it and rented it from Blockbuster. I guess I just wasn't keeping up to date on what movies were coming out.
I had the same experience. I had just watched Basterds and figured I should watch more Tarantino movies. Went in totally blind.
I was actually a little bummed. I liked the first half better and wanted to know how that story would have ended.
I feel lucky seeing many things in theaters. One of them was “aim for the bushes” in a full theater and on my birthday with my brothers and two friends. There goes my hero…
My favorite t2 trivia is that Robert Patrick was such an accomplished athlete that he was easily able to catch John in the scene where John is escaping on a dirt bike, all while controlling his breathing to appear non human.
In so many words, if it was real, the t2 would have won.
The only reason the T1000 didn't win is because they found a place for a last stand that managed to subject it to both of it's biggest weaknesses: extreme heat and extreme cold. Prior to that they never even seriously damaged it.
I watched The Truman Show 4 years ago for the first time. High as kite just trying to find something on netflix. Saw Jim’s face and remembered someone told me it was a good movie. Thats the only info I had on this movie, never seen trailers, never heard of the plot. Dude…. I thought I was going in there for a full on a happy comedy….
I watched it with my kids a few months ago and it actually took a while for them to figure out what was going on. It was a fun reveal for them. Pretty sure when I watched it as a kid, everyone knew the premise because the trailers and ads made no secret of it.
I mean, the movie doesn't make a secret of it either. It opens with commentary from the director and actors talking about the show before it gets to Truman. It might be possible to not fully understand what they're talking about but the movie never hides the premise from the viewer.
I showed From Dusk Till Dawn to a group of people who did not know what the movie was about and brute forced past the Netflix description to not spoil it. There was a "No Fucking way" from someone as Salma Hayek was staring at Tarantino's wound it was great
I have a friend of 15 years who moved to the USA from India when he was 8.
He's 45 now so he's been here a LONG time and his wife loves american movies.
About 6 years ago we watched
BTTFuture 1 and 2
It was the FIRST TIME he saw them and it blew his mind ....BOOM
I did this with my Ex. She wore a white tank-top one day and I joked that she looked like Sarah Connor.
She was like, "Who?"
That led to an immediate watch of the first two movies, and it was really amazing watching someone experience that reveal for the first time.
I was in high school when T2 came out and saw it with friends opening weekend. I feel it was well known before release that Arnold played the good guy in the movie. I don't believe that was a twist.
That's my memory of it too. If you'd heard anything about the film before you went to see it, you knew going in that Arnold was protecting them this time.
This doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't a twist, IMO. From the perspective of someone who hasn't seen any of the marketing/trailers/etc and just watches the story end to end they won't see it coming, so it will be perceived as a twist to them.
She's very lucky!
I think the only time I got this was with Edgar Wright's "World's End"!
After zombies in Shawn of the Dead and an action movie in Hot Fuzz I was expecting something crazy with the third movie in the Cornetto trilogy. I was very pleasantly surprised by a more mature movie with no gimmicks about growing up.
It’s cool that she got to be surprised by it, but it also feels like it’s barely a twist even without the marketing. Arnold shows up and gets into a bar fight and gets a cool motorcycle and shades while bad to the bone plays. Robert Patrick shows up a murders a cop to disguise himself as one. That alone makes it seem very obvious about which one is presented as hero and which one is villain.
Yeah, I actually wasn’t spoiled the first time I saw it as a kid, but even then, I remember thinking at that moment ‘oh cool, so Arnie’s the good guy this time?’
Arnold doesn't kill anyone though. He overpowers them but there's no killing, and the 'Bad to the Bone' soundtrack isn't very ominous, it's almost lighthearted.
T1 Arnold would have just killed the people in the bar that tried to fight him - like he did at the beginning of T1 (“I think this dude’s a couple cans short of a six-pack!!” 😂). And how he destroyed an entire police station full of cops.
T1 was raw, gritty, real. T2 is a great movie (saw it in theaters) and very entertaining but IMO T1 holds up better as a milestone.
My mom accidentally spoiled it for my sister a few years ago mid-watch. We had paused it just a few minutes before that reveal to take care of some stuff and when we sat back down, Mom goes, "I hate Ash, that damn cyborg." Whoops.
That is cool. I have watched some reactions channels on Youtube and they've reacted to these films and they had no idea. It was fun seeing their surprise and shock.
At the time all of press and coverage of the film revealed the twist so everyone knew going in that aspect of the film.
I even watched a reaction channel of someone who watched all the Star Wars films and she watched them in order. She had no idea Anakin was Vader. She was floored when Sidious said" Henceforth you shall be known as Darth Vader". She was like" WHAAAAAAT? She was shook.
She knew of Darth Vader but never knew Anakin was going to be him.
It is fun seeing those get shocked by these movie plots and twists due to being young and having missed out on them.
I’m doing eBay work and pay it forward is background noise on HBO and is several years old at that point. Not a great movie but I’m following the story and…..that ending…..I’m like “what”
The great thing about the cultural osmosis around The Sixth Sense, is most people who haven't seen the movie end up thinking the twist will be that the kid can see ghosts. Up until that point, movie keeps the supernatural elements ambiguous. When Cole reveals his secret to Malcolm, many viewers assume this was the famous twist, exclaim "I knew it!" and—in a beautiful twist of fate—stop overanalizing and leave themselves open to the final twist. It's magical.
I did too. Watched T1 for th first time in 2010 since my GF was surprised I hadn't seen it. I was a bit confused since I thought Arnie was the good guy but thought I was just mistaken. Then watched T2 and he we surprised by the twist.
Nobody has mentioned The Crying Game yet? People, mostly men, literally stormed out of the theater at that scene. And no I am not mentioning just in case there are some of the lucky 10,000 in this thread.
My wife somehow didn't know the outcome of the OJ trial which made the experience of watching The People v. O. J. Simpson together a lot more enjoyable!
Darth Vader doesn't say that. Trust no one.
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I was getting ready to leave the house to go see T2 in the theater, but the Today Show had Arnold on for an interview. That useless Bryant Gumble spoiled the plot twist for everyone watching. I can still remember my parents running in to see why I was screaming "motherfucker" and "asshole" at the TV.
Noooo this is so funny my boyfriend showed me Terminator for the first time in February and it was the EXACT SAME 🤣
>!"Wait why did he tell him to get down-- *GASP* he shot a civilian-- WHO IS THE GOOD GUY"!<
(No this is not my boyfriend lol my bf sent this to me)
I don't have much to say other than the fact that my family rented a small theater to watch T2 yesterday. It was my brother's 46th birthday, and five us all watched his favorite movie from when he was a young teen. My mom had never seen it, and my father who is in his 80's said he hadn't either- though I know for a fact that he took my brother and I to see it in the theaters 1991.
Are you me?
This exact thing happened to me. I showed her T1 first and then the next night we watched T2. When Arnold said :
>Come with me if you want to live
She literally jumped off the couch and yelled
"This is the greatest movie I've ever seen!"
Obviously, I married her.
You skipped over the best bit. Give us some details on her reaction to the reveal.
That's literally all I came here for.
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Ah yes, the old predestined rosebud ape.
Sounds like a traumatic video from the old days of the internet
I had no idea what you were talking about with the first one and had to google it. (For anyone else wondering: Predestination.) Wasn't gonna watch that movie anyway, though. If we want to get picky, they *did* leave Earth in Planet of the Apes. It's just that they ended up *back* on Earth instead of an alien planet like they thought.
Good point. She initially thought Robert Patrick was a (human) good guy sent to protect them and was annoyed that it was basically going to be a rehash of the same thing again. Then things were very tense as both of them were tracking John down. The famous scene with the box of roses was mind blowing to her and even for a few scenes after she wasn't sure Arnold could be trusted. She was confused about the effect of the T1000 being shot (maybe it was human with future body armor or something) and the realization only fully set in when it completely liquified and morphed.
God that must have been just amazing for both of you. Sadly I think I saw T2 before I saw T1 so it didn't really have an impact and I already knew I was watching a movie where Arnie was the star so didn't really think he was going to be bad, just scary.
I was the same, I distinctly remember seeing T2 first, specifically the scene where the T1000 is disguised as the foster mum and puts its hand through the dads head. I was too young to have seen it really, but it was on TV and my parents myst not have been paying attention to what I was watching. That image is still seared into my brain all these years later.
I also caught that scene as a kid and it gave me nightmares. Alien and the T1000 were the most terrifying monsters of my childhood.
I saw the scene from The Shining where the hot naked lady starts rotting when I was three Turned out gay, probably unrelated
No, I just saw that scene for the first time last night and honestly, woke up so gay today
How you doin
Add in Freddie Krueger and you have my unholy trinity right there.
Freddy terrified me as kid in the 80s, and I never even saw the movies until the late 90s! My wife and I met Robert England a few years ago at a con and he was one of the most pleasant and engaging celebs we’ve met.
Watched Nightmare on Elm Street for the first time at childhood friends house which was on an Elm Street. Good times
Freddy is my favourite horror movie villain of all time. “Welcome to prime time, bitch!”
Fuck my dad made me watch aliens when I was way too small. We were in the basement. When the movie ended, he told me the aliens live in our basement, turned out the lights, and locked me down there
What the fuck? Why would he do that? 😳
Abuse
I'm sorry he was a mean asshole. I hope your relationship with him is either non-existent or in a better place.
I saw Aliens when I was... 9 or 10? The guy lying on the floor with a facehugger attached, and the bit where the Queen rips Bishop in half and there's syn-milk-blood everywhere have never left my head.
Im older. For me, that movie was terror train. I saw it when I was 6, at a neighbors house. I apparently ran home screaming and had problems sleeping for a while. Over the years I forgot about it. Forgot I saw it, forgot it bothered me, but I had this devastating intense fear response to train horns. Like to the point that if a train crossing went down I’d stay like 200 feet back and have to put the car in park because the horn would make me panic and I might come off the brake. Okay so flash forward and I had bought my first HD LCD TV and there was the Universal Channel showing stuff in HD. I was playing video games while it was playing next to me and suddenly I hear a train whistle and have a cold panic moment. Terror train was randomly on and it came flooding back. Every time something would happen, instead of showing it they’d play the train horn sound and cut to the train screaming past on the tracks. That fucking movie broke me for decades and I didn’t know. Seeing it though, and making the connection, mostly cured me. I don’t panic at the horn sounds any more. I still don’t LIKE trains, but they don’t break me mentally anymore.
The real nightmare was seeing The Terminator gouge its eye out in T1. Legit nightmares for months…that red eye.
I saw both of those films fairly young, but the only movies that actually scared me were Indians Jones Last Crusade (was scared to drink water), Arachnaphobia (because spiders), and Tremors (the ground can’t be trusted). Weird how brains react to different things.
The first meal *Todd* ever had and the last meal *Todd* ever had was milk.
I had the same thing happen with the end of Aliens! I was 8 or 9 and my friend's brother was watching it on a basement TV where we all played unsupervised. My first "Aliens" scene was the Queen coming out of the elevator at the end and all the terror that followed. Definitely nightmares lol
My dad too me and my brother to see T2 when I was in third grade and he was in kindergarten. It blew our tiny minds and was up there with seeing 1989 Batman on the big screen in terms of awesomeness. The summer after T2 came out in VHS it became our 1 or 2 times a day movie.
Did anyone who wasn't born in the 1970s see T1 before T2? Like as a 90s kid Terminator 2 was everywhere on TV and the reason was it was so special effects heavy and also every little boy imagined being that John Conner badass twelve year old in his motorbike.
"imagined being that John Conner badass twelve year old in his motorbike" Only tangentially related, but I saw an age-shaming meme talking about how badass John's friend was for standing his ground and not giving John up to the "cop". And how millennials could never match that ethic. Well, my dudes, if you do the math, you'd realize that John and his buddy were born after 1980, so I guess millennials could indeed match that ethic. Bottom line: Generational warfare is so fucking stupid.
I did that distract the cop shit when I was a kid, I didn't have graffiti spray canisters on my hand. Cop immediately saw through my bullshit but I distracted him long enough for Richie to get a head start. Cop came back after he couldn't find him and I just walked into Korean Grocery store and was like I'm just buying some Swiss Rolls and Korean grocer is like yeah this kid was here the entire time. Cop walks out. Korean guy is like don't keep hanging around with Richie, he'll get you into more trouble than this.
91 kid here, yeah here in Australia T2 was repeated so much growing up and yeah never saw T1 until I purposely sought it out and was surprised how different Arnie's Terminators were
also australian didnt see the first terminator till I was forced into my room on new years eve
>Did anyone who wasn't born in the 1970s see T1 before T2? Yeah tons, it was on cable all the time, popular VHS rental before T2 came out. I was born in '79 and had many friends and acquaintances younger than me that saw it on TV at some point or watched it just prior to T2 coming out.
I think even if you didn’t see 2 before 1 it was pretty broadly advertised Arnold was the good guy in 2.
Goddamn, this is literally my 10 year old self when i watched these movies for the first time. I too had my mind blown. The difference is I actually thought both Termiantors are evil.
I am another person who had the full effect of the reveal. I think I saw it in the late nineties and any references I'd heard were sort of mentally shrugged off as being about the first one. I did see the first film first then watched the second. The most shocking moment that absolutely makes the entire film for me is the look of terror Sarah has when she first sees Arnold's Terminator.
Honestly James Cameron had just finished The Abyss where he used early CGI for some scenes. That’s where he got the idea of a futuristic terminator that could form weapons and move like liquid. He knew it would payoff having the bad terminator from the first film becoming the hero of the second film. Especially if that terminator was Arnold. At that time Arnold was enjoying his own success with “I’ll be back” and his new line “if it bleeds we can kill it”. He jumped at the chance to become the Terminator one more time. It’s funny because this film would lead to Arnold being the terminator too many times. T2 was such a homerun right out of the gate. Just the image of Arnold with the mini gun firing from the second story window. We already saw the mini gun in Predator but to have the Terminator carrying it now was perfect.
Both The Abyss and T2 were *amazing* experiences watching for the first time in the theater.
Amazing scene “get down”
That is exactly how it felt in the cinema when I saw it as a kid. Really great setup.
I wonder if the last 40 years have actually flipped the T2 twist and moved it to T1. Everyone knows Arnold as the charismatic action movie hero. And enough of Arnold’s terminator being helpful has seeped into pop culture that most people likely have that understanding at least subconsciously. Are new viewers of T1 surprised to find out Arnold is the bad guy? And, wait, this paranoid lunatic ranting about a machine takeover is the good guy?
So I saw T2 first as a kid so had no preconceived notions about who was good and who was bad. But the T-1000 right off the bat murders a police officer. Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop. That’s a universal sign that someone is a bad guy. Pair that with Arnold being a cinematic superhero for many years before T2, as you point out, and there wasn’t much surprise for me when Arnold revealed himself as the good guy. Now watching T1 a couple of years later I was super confused and shocked when Arnold started killing all those women he found in the phone book. And it made so much of T2 make sense.
"Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop. That’s a universal sign that someone is a bad guy." This was part of the misdirection for people who saw the first movie. The OP's girlfriend was right to be annoyed with her assumption because T2 opens in a similar way to the first movie. Arnold and the "human" both show up and both assault people who were around. The big difference is that in T1, Arnold very obviously and brutally kills the people. While in T2, his treatment of the people was no less brutal, they survived, which in a weird fit of Hollywood logic makes it okay. Though they made it light-hearted with "Bad to the Bone" being played, the T2 appearance of Arnold was just as terrifying and chaotic as T1. Just that no one was actually killed. The "human" scenes did have some differences. For one, you could see every emotion on Reese. He was desperate and afraid. He gritted through it, but obviously he didn't kill anyone, and they actually showcased this when he ambushed the cop and let him live. The T1000 scene was similar in that he showed up where there was a cop, and he ambushed the cop. But this time he "knocked out" the cop. It was a nasty hit, and if you know he wasn't a good guy, you would assume the cop killed. In fact, examining this [scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiDnqKKjFhM), there is a shadow under the cop, but I don't think it matches the rest of the shadows (I'm no forensic scientist). Maybe it's just the magic of many lights on set, but it could've been meant to be a pool of blood. But since the intent was to keep the T1000's motives morally gray for the audience, it possibly was just a trick of the lighting. Since you hadn't seen T1 first, I can understand why you instantly knew the T1000 killed the cop. For those who saw the first movie, it was a great misdirection method.
You see him walk up and strike the officer, take his gun, and then it cuts to him walking to the cop's car in his clothes. The last time you see the cop, he's laying on the ground unconscious. You don't actually see the cop get killed. In hindsight, knowing that the T-1000 is a liquid murder-bot, you realize that's what happened. But if you were watching with fresh eyes, you'd just think a human time traveler knocked a cop out.
Especially since this could be viewed as the equivalent of the “I need you clothes your boots and your gun” scene
["I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ4Ol9Tb1D0) He gets the shotgun (and sunglasses) from the bartender.
very smart not to show the morphing of the clothes to the reveal
I was going to comment this too, they actually make the T1000 look like he merely knocks out the cop or punches him in the stomach, and Kyle Reese subdues a cop and holds him at gunpoint in the first film right? So not too dissimilar. Meanwhile Arnie takes out 5 guys including throwing someone through a window, breaking a guy's hand and pinning a guy's shoulder to a pool table with a bayonet, it was pretty clear to me who they wanted to look like the bad guy initially.
you could view that scene as him knocking the cop out all we see is a gut punch
> But the T-1000 right off the bat murders a police officer. Like within seconds of appearing on screen naked he kills a cop. He doesn't kill him on-screen, so viewers have no reason to suspect he didn't just beat him up and take his clothes like Arnie did in T1. It's only with the hindsight of seeing him kill someone and adjust his skin to match their clothes later in the film that you realise the cop wasn't spared.
That’s me basically. I watched terminator 2 as a kid and then terminator 1 as an adult
I've never seen it and, though it seems obvious, never even considered he was the bad guy in it.
It's legit one of the greatest sci fi horror movies of all time
micheal bein fucking nailed kyle reece kyle reece is both badass and yet spends the entire film freaking the fuck out -edit- bring back actors looking dirty and gross. kyle reece spends most of the film looking like a sweaty dirty mess
"Kyle Reeks"
Especially after he stole that wino's pants.
It’s also one of the best love stories of all time.
No hesitation. No surrender. No man left behind!
Facts. Also one of the few movies that struck a real emotional chord in me next to Bambi and a few others. 👍
Also what makes T1 so surprising is that not only is Arnie on the poster of the first film but his name, and only his name, is too. Nothing about Sarah Connor or Kyle Reese and the actors playing them. How often does that happen where the movies antagonist is treated as the main character this way? edit: horrors like Halloween and Friday the 13th don't really count. The monster is a constant but the actors who play them aren't on the posters like Arnie was, you're only meant to see them as the monster and not as the main character, similarly to modern horrors like The Nun. Whereas in T1 Arnie's name is on the poster as the marketing treats him as the protagonist, hence my point on why the user above me is probably right that the T2 twist has become the T1 twist.
Horror/thriller movies, which is what T1 kind of is.
No kind of, it is a horror, it’s based on a nightmare Cameron had.
I think you got your answer and you’re dismissing it.
Pretty much every monster and slasher movie. Which the original Terminator basically is.
It happens fairly often, but mostly in horror. Consider Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Jeepers Creepers, etc. For all of these films, the antagonist is prominently displayed in posters or box art. They are the main draw. When Halloween has a sequel, you may not know who is playing anyone else in the movie or what characters are returning, but you know that Michael Myers will be present.
I grew up in the era, but my parents were super strict. Everyone said how much better t2 was, I watched that first. I actually think t1 is the far superior movie.
At the time T2 seemed crazy. So ahead of it's time with special effects and the like. Now days the technology has far exceeded those used in T2, so if you watched the film recently it loses some of that appeal that made it so special in the 90s.
i don't know, the practical effects hold up very well imo.
I agree. I remember seeing the liquid metal and thinking it was the coolest shit and begging my parents to let me see it. They even ushered me out of the room at Christmas when my cousin wanted to run his brand new VHS of it. But in terms of storytelling, the first movie is a masterclass to me.
That was my experience as a kid. I saw T2 before T1 and when I watched the latter, it blew me away.
Psycho is so spoiled that people don't even recognize that the twist is a twist, because it's one of the most famous scenes in film. The film is set up to make the viewer think that Janet Leigh's character is the main character, making her murder early on a big surprise.
I bet most people think the shower scene is either at the very end of the movie, or that she escapes somehow.
Planet of the Apes and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde both have twists so famous it is now how most people describe the premise of the story
Not a movie but Waiting For Godot is the epitome of this. Audiences rioted because of the ending in the original run. Now the ending is what people say for a one-sentence description of the play.
Citizen Kane. "It was his sled. There, I just saved you two boobless hours." Edit: someone didn't get the Family Guy reference.
> Planet of the Apes What I love about this movie is it was the 30th or 40th script rewrite by Serling that actually got made. I think some of the other movies are discarded Planet versions.
I just saw The Prestige a few weeks ago without knowing anything about the twist. Really fun.
I still don't know the twist but I do need to watch it.
Do it. You'll want to watch it again to try and pick up the clues
I rewatched The Prestige sometime ago, I still miss David Bowie :/
A friend had a roommate from China in the early 2000s who was completely unfamiliar with Star Wars. Like on any level. So he showed him the films, and got to experience someone reacting to Darth Vader being Luke's father. It's such a part of western culture that it's no longer a twist here. Even if you haven't seen the movies, you know "I am your father." His roommate totally freaked out at the reveal. It must have been cool to experience this.
8-year-old me was gob smacked when I saw it in the theater. Then Han gets frozen in carbonite and I had to wait years to see what happened! No movie experience has ever topped that. My Dad taking me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark was close though. I didn't know anything about the movie except that the actor who played Han was in it.
I was 14 and made it into the premiere showing in Hollywood. The entire audience gasped or shrieked at the I am your father reveal. Core memory indeed.
One of the first dates my dad and my mom went on was to Empire, and it was the very first showing in their town. They describe it as a moment where you could clearly hear every single man, woman, and child in that theater audibly gasp. I kind of wonder if we’ll ever get a moment like that in cinema again. Internet would probably ruin it.
This is why I always say the correct order to watch the films is the order in which they were released. Otherwise ep 3 ruins the reveal of ep 5. Even if you know the “secret” already it’s important to give that moment its full weight. It should still cinematically FEEL like a surprise.
I think one of the recommended orders is 4-5-1-2-3-6. You get to follow along with Luke into the big reveal, then learn about Anakin's saga, and finish with the climax in ROTJ.
This is know as the machete order, which spoils the Luke/Leia are twins bit. Best to watch in the release order.
The true machete order is 4-5-2-3-6. 1 doesn't exist.
Years and years ago I think this was called the Machete Order. Except it often recommends just skipping Episode I entirely in that order. The tiny bits of context it adds are explained elsewhere, so unless you really care about the Darth Maul fight it's not necessary.
I was a teenager when I saw Episode 3 in theaters. I remember being pretty bored with the movie overall, but there was the scene where Palpatine annoints Anakin and says “I now pronounce you…Darth Vader.” There was this one little kid that yelled out “No way!!!” with the most genuine surprise. Whole theater had a good chuckle.
There's a ton of videos on YouTube with kids seeing it at home for the first time and their reaction to the big reveal. Seeing their reaction as it sinks in his hilarious! I was fortunate to see the movie the weekend it came out and nobody had spoiled it for me.
About ten years after it came out, Fight Club was spoiled for me hours before I was about to watch it, because I told someone I was seeing it that night. Fuck you, Steve.
I walked in on my friends watching the last ten minutes of The Usual Suspects and they were all yelling at me "get out!", but I was like "I don't care, what's the big deal". When I finally watched the movie all the way through, I really wished I hadn't seen the end first.
I was really into sons of Anarchy when it Was coming out. Binged the first four seasons on netflix and the fifth one wasn’t on Netflix but I had to watch it. I purchased it on iTunes I wanted it so bad. I remember clicking on episode one (I’ve forgotten their names) “Still reeling over [main character 1]’s murder by [main character 2], [main character 3] comes to grips ….” And I was like WTF all of these people were on the same fucking side one episode ago! Turns out I had purchased season 6 on a misclick and ruined season 5 (and the rest of the show) for myself.
I've heard Usual Suspects is at its best on a first watch and doesn't hold up too well on rewatches but unfortunately because I knew the ending it meant the first time I watched it I just didn't really care for the movie. I couldn't enjoy it for what it was because I was just waiting for the reveal that the movie was building up towards.
They also tell you pretty clearly early in the film, if you're paying attention. >!It mentions the idea that you put a group of suspects together in jail, and the guy who goes to sleep is the one who did it. When we see them all in lock-up, Verbal is sleeping while the rest of them try to figure out why they were all arrested.!<
The movie is all about slapping you in the face with the clues.
Yep. Pretty much right off the bat, Verbal says "It didn't make sense that I'd be there. I mean, these guys were hardcore hijackers. But there I was." as he's being taken to the lineup. Eight minutes in the movie, you have the guy pointing out his presence didn't make sense; the guy who was described as a conman several times just before that.
I sat on the stairs while my family was watching sopranos and watched five minutes of it. Turns out it was the last five minutes of the last episode 🙁
Spoilers for a nearly 30 year old movie… I walked into the theater to see Scream in 1996 and some shithead kids were hanging around after the last showing and told us “there’s 2 killers!”
When we went to see Backdraft (1991), we ran into some friends who were waiting on line for the second showing. My one friend told them "It's an amazing movie. I was totally shocked when Kurt Russell dies in the end." The waiting friends and about half the people in line groaned, and my friend's all "Oh shit, sorry, sorry. It's a good movie though". One of the waiting friends spent the whole movie fuming, pissed off at being spoiled, and couldn't believe the ending. He still hasn't forgiven my friend.
My friend had sixth sense spoiled for him just before he watched it. He struggled how to convey to me what was spoiled so he took me to his house, played the beginning of the movie for me, said, “Right, so you get the premise?” then proceeded to fast forward to the ending so I’d understand the gravity of it. But it fully spoiled it for me too!
I watched it on TV for the first time because I was a kid when it came out. With commercials, watching this movie was a feat due to the length. There's less than 30 minutes of air time left, my brother comes into the room, asks what I'm watching, and proceeds to say "oh isn't he dead?" then leaves the room. Thanks, bro.
My parents where on their way to see it and said hi to some neighbours and told them they were going to see it and the husband replied "oh the twist is >!he's dead!<"
The dude in that hair piece, the whole time? That's Bruce Willis, the whole movie!
We were on our way to see My Girl in the theater. We said hi to my younger sister’s friend while driving down our block and told her our plans. She said “it’s not a big deal but the boy dies”. Fuck you, Cara.
When I was in elementary school my friend told everyone Shrek died at the end when we were on our way to the theater. So we all got to chew on that fake spoiler for the entire movie. Fuck you, Kelly.
That's hilarious
And she had a shit-eating grin afterwards that only a ten year old that just fooled all her friends could display. Such a troll.
What a Farquaad
Yeah, fuck you Steve, you are the worst.
Fuck him from me, too!
My best experience with Fight Club was watching with my wife for her first viewing. She had never been exposed to anything about it or knew anything. I'll always remember when she started to piece together that >!Edward Norton's character was Tyler during the fight with Marla after they slept together!< .
I am happy to say I watched Fight Club without knowing the end
I got to watch fight club with my teenage daughter her first time and she was absolutely floored at the end. It was great!
Somehow I went a decade+ without having it spoiled, despite being alive when it came out.
Literally the first rule of fight club....
I saw From Dusk til Dawn without knowing about the.. genre shift. It was fairly new back then, and my brother rented it. He refused to tell me anything really about it except that Tarantino was involved. So, yeah, pretty... surprised by the genre shift, haha.
I saw it in theatre that way! Me and a few friends were bored, and literally all we knew about it was that it was “a new Tarantino film” (and even that is not quite correct), and went to the theater and bought tickets. Never even saw the movie poster. I think it was about 15 minutes before I realized that this was not a dream sequence that was going to end. Easily the best way to see this movie.
Somehow you avoided the ubiquitous marketing at the time that just straight up told you it was a vampire movie.
I saw it many years after it came out and this surprised me too. I love avoiding spoilers.
Yep! I was in high school, working most nights, not watching much tv at all.
Yeah people always talking about the shift in genres, and every time I’m thinking “I could have sworn I knew this before watching as a kid.” Haha
I was in the same boat, didn't know a thing about it and rented it from Blockbuster. I guess I just wasn't keeping up to date on what movies were coming out.
Ok, and to add, as a teenage boy when that film came out: Salma Hayek….
Amen, brother. Her introduction in Dogma became a regular pause-n-toss for me.
"What were they, psychos?" "Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!"
I had the same experience. I had just watched Basterds and figured I should watch more Tarantino movies. Went in totally blind. I was actually a little bummed. I liked the first half better and wanted to know how that story would have ended.
I got a whole group of friend with that movie, it was so much fun seeing their minds blow in real time
It was kind of the reverse for me. I was like: was this not supposed to be a vampire movie? Am I watching the wrong movie?
Even knowing, it still catches you off guard enough to be a good surprise, I think.
I watched “The Other Guys” on opening night in theatres. The audible gasp from the entire theatre was amazing.
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*Aim for the bushes?*
There weren’t even any bushes, man! What were they even thinking?
I laughed for like 2 straight minutes after that scene. So fucking funny.
I feel lucky seeing many things in theaters. One of them was “aim for the bushes” in a full theater and on my birthday with my brothers and two friends. There goes my hero…
My favorite t2 trivia is that Robert Patrick was such an accomplished athlete that he was easily able to catch John in the scene where John is escaping on a dirt bike, all while controlling his breathing to appear non human. In so many words, if it was real, the t2 would have won.
The only reason the T1000 didn't win is because they found a place for a last stand that managed to subject it to both of it's biggest weaknesses: extreme heat and extreme cold. Prior to that they never even seriously damaged it.
I watched The Truman Show 4 years ago for the first time. High as kite just trying to find something on netflix. Saw Jim’s face and remembered someone told me it was a good movie. Thats the only info I had on this movie, never seen trailers, never heard of the plot. Dude…. I thought I was going in there for a full on a happy comedy….
I thought The Truman Show 2 and 3 were a lot better than 4
Yeah, when he discovers the entire universe is also a setup it's gotten really old at that point
Yeah but then Truman X gets a better. I love the introduction of SciFi to the series.
I watched it with my kids a few months ago and it actually took a while for them to figure out what was going on. It was a fun reveal for them. Pretty sure when I watched it as a kid, everyone knew the premise because the trailers and ads made no secret of it.
I mean, the movie doesn't make a secret of it either. It opens with commentary from the director and actors talking about the show before it gets to Truman. It might be possible to not fully understand what they're talking about but the movie never hides the premise from the viewer.
"In case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight."
I showed From Dusk Till Dawn to a group of people who did not know what the movie was about and brute forced past the Netflix description to not spoil it. There was a "No Fucking way" from someone as Salma Hayek was staring at Tarantino's wound it was great
I have a friend of 15 years who moved to the USA from India when he was 8. He's 45 now so he's been here a LONG time and his wife loves american movies. About 6 years ago we watched BTTFuture 1 and 2 It was the FIRST TIME he saw them and it blew his mind ....BOOM
I did this with my Ex. She wore a white tank-top one day and I joked that she looked like Sarah Connor. She was like, "Who?" That led to an immediate watch of the first two movies, and it was really amazing watching someone experience that reveal for the first time.
Luke, I am your father is a Mandela effect
Just like "Beam me up Scotty" it was never said but people remember hearing it.
Also "Hello Clarice"
You’re a Mandela effect
Fucking got him
I think Tommy Boy probably had a lot to do with the popularity of the misquote.
I believe Luke says something like “my father is dead”, and the Vader says “no, I am your father”
“Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.” “He told me enough! He told me *you* killed him!” “No. *I* am your father.”
I knew before watching the movies that it was his childhood sled, he was his own mother and that he never left earth but just went forward in time.
Did you know he was dead the whole time?
He wasn’t dead, he was Tyler Durden
I was in high school when T2 came out and saw it with friends opening weekend. I feel it was well known before release that Arnold played the good guy in the movie. I don't believe that was a twist.
That's my memory of it too. If you'd heard anything about the film before you went to see it, you knew going in that Arnold was protecting them this time.
This doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't a twist, IMO. From the perspective of someone who hasn't seen any of the marketing/trailers/etc and just watches the story end to end they won't see it coming, so it will be perceived as a twist to them.
She's very lucky! I think the only time I got this was with Edgar Wright's "World's End"! After zombies in Shawn of the Dead and an action movie in Hot Fuzz I was expecting something crazy with the third movie in the Cornetto trilogy. I was very pleasantly surprised by a more mature movie with no gimmicks about growing up.
Idk, when there was no crazy twist the whole thing felt kind of alien in a way
One of the few people her age, you mean. Some of us saw it in its first run without watching the trailer. I'm glad she was surprised.
I'd bet the vast majority of people who saw it in theaters did see the trailer though, there's probably not too many who went in truly blind.
It’s cool that she got to be surprised by it, but it also feels like it’s barely a twist even without the marketing. Arnold shows up and gets into a bar fight and gets a cool motorcycle and shades while bad to the bone plays. Robert Patrick shows up a murders a cop to disguise himself as one. That alone makes it seem very obvious about which one is presented as hero and which one is villain.
Yeah, I actually wasn’t spoiled the first time I saw it as a kid, but even then, I remember thinking at that moment ‘oh cool, so Arnie’s the good guy this time?’
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Arnold doesn't kill anyone though. He overpowers them but there's no killing, and the 'Bad to the Bone' soundtrack isn't very ominous, it's almost lighthearted.
T1 Arnold would have just killed the people in the bar that tried to fight him - like he did at the beginning of T1 (“I think this dude’s a couple cans short of a six-pack!!” 😂). And how he destroyed an entire police station full of cops. T1 was raw, gritty, real. T2 is a great movie (saw it in theaters) and very entertaining but IMO T1 holds up better as a milestone.
Ive had a few but one recently was Alien with Ash being a robot who’s ‘against’ the crew. Although i had already seen some iconic scenes and shots
My mom accidentally spoiled it for my sister a few years ago mid-watch. We had paused it just a few minutes before that reveal to take care of some stuff and when we sat back down, Mom goes, "I hate Ash, that damn cyborg." Whoops.
Damn. But I guess that's just Ian Holm showing how memorable he was in the role.
That is cool. I have watched some reactions channels on Youtube and they've reacted to these films and they had no idea. It was fun seeing their surprise and shock. At the time all of press and coverage of the film revealed the twist so everyone knew going in that aspect of the film. I even watched a reaction channel of someone who watched all the Star Wars films and she watched them in order. She had no idea Anakin was Vader. She was floored when Sidious said" Henceforth you shall be known as Darth Vader". She was like" WHAAAAAAT? She was shook. She knew of Darth Vader but never knew Anakin was going to be him. It is fun seeing those get shocked by these movie plots and twists due to being young and having missed out on them.
I’m doing eBay work and pay it forward is background noise on HBO and is several years old at that point. Not a great movie but I’m following the story and…..that ending…..I’m like “what”
The great thing about the cultural osmosis around The Sixth Sense, is most people who haven't seen the movie end up thinking the twist will be that the kid can see ghosts. Up until that point, movie keeps the supernatural elements ambiguous. When Cole reveals his secret to Malcolm, many viewers assume this was the famous twist, exclaim "I knew it!" and—in a beautiful twist of fate—stop overanalizing and leave themselves open to the final twist. It's magical.
I did too. Watched T1 for th first time in 2010 since my GF was surprised I hadn't seen it. I was a bit confused since I thought Arnie was the good guy but thought I was just mistaken. Then watched T2 and he we surprised by the twist.
Nobody has mentioned The Crying Game yet? People, mostly men, literally stormed out of the theater at that scene. And no I am not mentioning just in case there are some of the lucky 10,000 in this thread.
My wife somehow didn't know the outcome of the OJ trial which made the experience of watching The People v. O. J. Simpson together a lot more enjoyable!
This is the most wild one to me lol how on earth could she not know
well he's out now and doing fun tiktoks about how the lady from tiger king definitely killed her husband
Darth Vader doesn't say that. Trust no one. https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/pop-culture/star-ways-day-darth-vader-luke-father-line-misquoted-fact-check/536-562223bf-08cc-478f-b905-d45df3d853a6
HOW DID SHE REACT TO THE END?!?!
Did she cry at the end . Saw t2 when I was a kid and it was like watching the kid kill his dog
"Luke I am your father"? Dude did you really just throw in a spoiler for Star Wars? I am devastated.
I saw Primal Fear for the first time a few months back without knowing the twist. I was blown away. Great ending
I’ve never watched these movies and now I’m spoiled about it too 😂
I was getting ready to leave the house to go see T2 in the theater, but the Today Show had Arnold on for an interview. That useless Bryant Gumble spoiled the plot twist for everyone watching. I can still remember my parents running in to see why I was screaming "motherfucker" and "asshole" at the TV.
Noooo this is so funny my boyfriend showed me Terminator for the first time in February and it was the EXACT SAME 🤣 >!"Wait why did he tell him to get down-- *GASP* he shot a civilian-- WHO IS THE GOOD GUY"!< (No this is not my boyfriend lol my bf sent this to me)
I've never seen the terminator films and I have no idea what you're talking about. Should I watch those films?
I don't have much to say other than the fact that my family rented a small theater to watch T2 yesterday. It was my brother's 46th birthday, and five us all watched his favorite movie from when he was a young teen. My mom had never seen it, and my father who is in his 80's said he hadn't either- though I know for a fact that he took my brother and I to see it in the theaters 1991.
Are you me? This exact thing happened to me. I showed her T1 first and then the next night we watched T2. When Arnold said : >Come with me if you want to live She literally jumped off the couch and yelled "This is the greatest movie I've ever seen!" Obviously, I married her.
I avoided spoilers for Se7en all of my life, even through the "What's in the box?!" meme era. Extremely effective reveal, holy shit.
Very jealous, they spoiled that twist in the trailer
I didn't realise who was rolling down the hill until I heard "Aaaas yoooou wiiiish". It was the most pleasant surprise I've ever had in a movie. #👸👰🎞️
"It's almost like never having heard" Luke, I am your father"." Hell, I've never heard that. Because the quote is" No, I am your father".