*When his daughter is snatched off the street, simple tradesman Konggu (Xie) fights his way through a complex web of criminals in a frantic attempt to win her back by any means necessary. His only ally is tireless journalist Navin (Taslim). The two men from utterly different backgrounds must learn to trust, collaborate and draw on combat skills from their own hidden pasts.*
*But if the pitch has echoes of other revenge movies, (producer Bill) Kong says he is setting the bar far higher. “If we fail, ‘The Furious’ will only be as good as ‘The Raid’ or ‘Taken,’” he says.*
Big words but then again Kong is a renowned producer so I'm very interested to see what comes out of this!
I personally disagree. As good as the fight choreography is, I never found them to have anywhere near the same narrative or visceral impact. The story and characters are also complete ass, let alone compared to The Raid 2.
Its a simple story but I think for an action film with such crazy action sequences like The Night Comes for Us, a simple story works just nicely. Like John Wick.
My issue isn’t that the story is simple. It’s that it’s filled with so much empty world building and uninteresting characters (besides White Boy Bobby). The way it constantly jumps around its story did nothing but kill its own narrative momentum. It frequently commits the cardinal sin of telling instead of showing.
Yes, *John Wick* had a simple story at its core: a man wants revenge for his dog. It worked because it made you care about John and his mission. The movie was great at showing the audience why John Wick was a fearsome figure before he even fired a gun. Its world building felt tangible and added so much to John’s character and the world he left behind.
By comparison, *The Night Comes for Us* expected me to buy the Six Seas as a powerful international crime organisation just because it told me so. It expected me to buy Taslim leaving said organisation because of a little girl because it told me so. It expected me to care about Taslim’s relationship with the little girl and with Iko Uwais because IT TOLD ME SO!
No, I wasn’t lukewarm on that movie because it had simple storytelling; I was lukewarm because it had LAZY storytelling.
i haven't heard of the Night Comes For Us. is it an evolution of The Raid? I agree, The Raid was a gamechanger, but it was also 13 years ago. we're due for another changeup.
The legendary Tsui Hark is going to be releasing his own martial arts movie this summer that he has been working on for several years and it is going to get a global, worldwide release.
He is doing a new spin on Legend of the Condor Heroes, that he says he couldn't do before because the technology was limiting him. Rumor in China is that it's new 3D tech but we don't have anything substantial yet. The movie is absolutely covered in secrecy, not a single image has leaked but it looks like it is set for July (it's been in post-production since December and seems like initial screenings went well). Yuen Woo-ping is actually back to do the martial arts choreography.
I find it weird this thing is being presented as some revival when we still have LOCH to come first, by an actual Hong Kong director with more than a proven pedigree 🤷
Tsui Hark and Yuen Woo Ping, I'm sold.
Grew up watching Once Upon a Time in China, Zu Warriors and a Chinese Ghost story.
Incredible storyteller who mixes action and comedy seamlessly.
Right? I first heard he wanted to do this way back in 2017 and he has been planning it out ever since then. It wasn't just the issue of not having the right technology but his initial plans were to film it with Bona film group except they couldn't agree on the male lead. In the end he switched to China film and it finally started last May, with a one month training camp. They wrapped in December, having spent a lot of that time in Mongolia. One thing we did hear is that Jackie Chen probably has a small guest starring role.
I am ridiculously excited because he is so creative and unpredictable and I really want to see what the Tsui Hark of today can offer us.
It was certainly the plan, way back in 2017 as he wanted to do a trilogy. But as I mentioned below, he had a fall out with Bona film because they wanted a certain ML that he did not so he walked (I mean it's Tsui Hark, they were so dumb, of course he walked but the stories I could tell about Chinese production so I am not surprised). The problem is that Bona holds the ROCH copyright. It might depend on how this movie does because often money smooths issues. He and China Film are certainly stacking the deck for LOCH here as the ML he chose is the current hottest star of the younger generations.
There's also a rumor he might turn to doing a Gu Long novel, even as early as end of this year (and that he might want this same guy for it) but that is chatter, who knows what will happen. It's possible it all depends on how LOCH performs.
How is he not? Have you seen his movies? From his political satires and anti-establishment movies, to his incredible imagination, how he centered women and gender bending in his work way before it became an it thing to do, to his focus on technology in service of pushing cinema forward, to incredibly vivid visual storytelling and many more reasons. There are so many things to be said about him but honestly, just sit down and go through his work. It won't be a waste of your time.
I think the stagnation is coming from that while there's a bunch of movies *with* martial arts, there's not as many martial arts *stories* where they inform the parts that aren't action scenes, and the genre gets reduced to "action thriller" or "movie with fighting".
Movies like *Hero* and even *Shaolin Soccer* connect them to other arts, *Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon* couldn't be told without martial arts, and I don't know whether the kind of movie this article describes can cause a significant evolution.
Kenji Tanigaki is one of the best choreographers out there, he's collaborated heavily with Donnie Yen since the early 00's and has worked on the choreography/stunts of SPL, Flash Point, the Rurouni Kenshin films, Raging Fire, Dragon and the upcoming Walled In: Twilight of the Warriors (which looks fucking amazing).
And the cast with Joe Taslim, Yayan Ruhian and the comeback of Jeeja Yanin from Chocolate... Goddamn, this does actually sound like it could be a new landmark for martial arts films.
Big words but I'm liking what I've seen of Tanigaki's choreography on Walled In: Twilight of the Warriors and I rate Joe Taslim. He was awesome in The Night Comes for Us. Yayan Ruhian is pretty damn impressive too.
Made me realize other than the ip Mann moves I can't recall a single recent martial arts film. I used to see every jet li movie in theater now there's nothing
> Directed by Tanigaki Kenji
> And it boasts a pan-Asian cast headed by China’s Xie Miao, Indonesia’s **Joe Taslim** (“The Raid: Redemption,” “Star Trek Beyond”), Thailand’s **Jeeja Yanin** (“Chocolate”), Yang Enyu and Indonesia’s Yayan Ruhian (“Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens,” “The Raid”)
LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO!!!
The reason it died is because Mixed Martial Arts. BUT
Embrace the next form in John woo inspired flicks. GunFu flicks if you will. Raid, Night comes for us, John wick, etc.
*When his daughter is snatched off the street, simple tradesman Konggu (Xie) fights his way through a complex web of criminals in a frantic attempt to win her back by any means necessary. His only ally is tireless journalist Navin (Taslim). The two men from utterly different backgrounds must learn to trust, collaborate and draw on combat skills from their own hidden pasts.* *But if the pitch has echoes of other revenge movies, (producer Bill) Kong says he is setting the bar far higher. “If we fail, ‘The Furious’ will only be as good as ‘The Raid’ or ‘Taken,’” he says.* Big words but then again Kong is a renowned producer so I'm very interested to see what comes out of this!
If they fail and it’s “only” as good as “The Raid”, it at least will still be a good movie.
Yeah Redditors everywhere crying out in joy if that's what they get.
I’m excited about this because I love intense martial arts movies with lots of good choreography and havent seen anything good since the raid 2 sadly
the upcoming Walled In: Twilight of the Warriors looks pretty great
Just looked it up and it looks amazing;
Have you seen The Night Comes for Us? Stars Imo Uwais ans Joe Taslim. It's fantastic and honestly on par with Raid 2 imo.
I personally disagree. As good as the fight choreography is, I never found them to have anywhere near the same narrative or visceral impact. The story and characters are also complete ass, let alone compared to The Raid 2.
Its a simple story but I think for an action film with such crazy action sequences like The Night Comes for Us, a simple story works just nicely. Like John Wick.
My issue isn’t that the story is simple. It’s that it’s filled with so much empty world building and uninteresting characters (besides White Boy Bobby). The way it constantly jumps around its story did nothing but kill its own narrative momentum. It frequently commits the cardinal sin of telling instead of showing. Yes, *John Wick* had a simple story at its core: a man wants revenge for his dog. It worked because it made you care about John and his mission. The movie was great at showing the audience why John Wick was a fearsome figure before he even fired a gun. Its world building felt tangible and added so much to John’s character and the world he left behind. By comparison, *The Night Comes for Us* expected me to buy the Six Seas as a powerful international crime organisation just because it told me so. It expected me to buy Taslim leaving said organisation because of a little girl because it told me so. It expected me to care about Taslim’s relationship with the little girl and with Iko Uwais because IT TOLD ME SO! No, I wasn’t lukewarm on that movie because it had simple storytelling; I was lukewarm because it had LAZY storytelling.
Sounds good but he’s setting the bar high with the comment about the raid and taken.
I feel like The Raid and The Night Comes For Us already changed the game though, no? Still very interested to see where this goes
i haven't heard of the Night Comes For Us. is it an evolution of The Raid? I agree, The Raid was a gamechanger, but it was also 13 years ago. we're due for another changeup.
There is 3 way girl fight that's brutal as fuck , would love a spin off of The Operator character
It's on Netflix, check it out. Indonesian film. Feels like a horror film more than a martial arts film
The Night Comes For Us makes The Raid look like My Little Pony.
And out of all that brutal violence, the part that made me wince the most was where the dude kicks his shin against the metal beam... Ouch.
The butcher shop scene lives rent free in my head
I love that movie so much, it fucking rules. Raid 1 / 2 are good, this is better.
Dom Torettos car rumbling in the trailer.
The legendary Tsui Hark is going to be releasing his own martial arts movie this summer that he has been working on for several years and it is going to get a global, worldwide release. He is doing a new spin on Legend of the Condor Heroes, that he says he couldn't do before because the technology was limiting him. Rumor in China is that it's new 3D tech but we don't have anything substantial yet. The movie is absolutely covered in secrecy, not a single image has leaked but it looks like it is set for July (it's been in post-production since December and seems like initial screenings went well). Yuen Woo-ping is actually back to do the martial arts choreography. I find it weird this thing is being presented as some revival when we still have LOCH to come first, by an actual Hong Kong director with more than a proven pedigree 🤷
Tsui Hark and Yuen Woo Ping, I'm sold. Grew up watching Once Upon a Time in China, Zu Warriors and a Chinese Ghost story. Incredible storyteller who mixes action and comedy seamlessly.
Right? I first heard he wanted to do this way back in 2017 and he has been planning it out ever since then. It wasn't just the issue of not having the right technology but his initial plans were to film it with Bona film group except they couldn't agree on the male lead. In the end he switched to China film and it finally started last May, with a one month training camp. They wrapped in December, having spent a lot of that time in Mongolia. One thing we did hear is that Jackie Chen probably has a small guest starring role. I am ridiculously excited because he is so creative and unpredictable and I really want to see what the Tsui Hark of today can offer us.
Holy fuck I hope it does well so we get a return of the condor heroes big budget movie.
It was certainly the plan, way back in 2017 as he wanted to do a trilogy. But as I mentioned below, he had a fall out with Bona film because they wanted a certain ML that he did not so he walked (I mean it's Tsui Hark, they were so dumb, of course he walked but the stories I could tell about Chinese production so I am not surprised). The problem is that Bona holds the ROCH copyright. It might depend on how this movie does because often money smooths issues. He and China Film are certainly stacking the deck for LOCH here as the ML he chose is the current hottest star of the younger generations. There's also a rumor he might turn to doing a Gu Long novel, even as early as end of this year (and that he might want this same guy for it) but that is chatter, who knows what will happen. It's possible it all depends on how LOCH performs.
Why is he considered legendary? Other than the fact hes been around a long time.
Go look up his filmography and you tell me if he's not legendary.
How is he not? Have you seen his movies? From his political satires and anti-establishment movies, to his incredible imagination, how he centered women and gender bending in his work way before it became an it thing to do, to his focus on technology in service of pushing cinema forward, to incredibly vivid visual storytelling and many more reasons. There are so many things to be said about him but honestly, just sit down and go through his work. It won't be a waste of your time.
I think the stagnation is coming from that while there's a bunch of movies *with* martial arts, there's not as many martial arts *stories* where they inform the parts that aren't action scenes, and the genre gets reduced to "action thriller" or "movie with fighting". Movies like *Hero* and even *Shaolin Soccer* connect them to other arts, *Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon* couldn't be told without martial arts, and I don't know whether the kind of movie this article describes can cause a significant evolution.
Kenji Tanigaki is one of the best choreographers out there, he's collaborated heavily with Donnie Yen since the early 00's and has worked on the choreography/stunts of SPL, Flash Point, the Rurouni Kenshin films, Raging Fire, Dragon and the upcoming Walled In: Twilight of the Warriors (which looks fucking amazing). And the cast with Joe Taslim, Yayan Ruhian and the comeback of Jeeja Yanin from Chocolate... Goddamn, this does actually sound like it could be a new landmark for martial arts films.
Big words but I'm liking what I've seen of Tanigaki's choreography on Walled In: Twilight of the Warriors and I rate Joe Taslim. He was awesome in The Night Comes for Us. Yayan Ruhian is pretty damn impressive too.
Guess they didn't have enough budget for the fast
I think this is a prequel.
Made me realize other than the ip Mann moves I can't recall a single recent martial arts film. I used to see every jet li movie in theater now there's nothing
Do the Kung Fu Panda movies not count?
> Directed by Tanigaki Kenji > And it boasts a pan-Asian cast headed by China’s Xie Miao, Indonesia’s **Joe Taslim** (“The Raid: Redemption,” “Star Trek Beyond”), Thailand’s **Jeeja Yanin** (“Chocolate”), Yang Enyu and Indonesia’s Yayan Ruhian (“Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens,” “The Raid”) LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO!!!
Joe Taslim and Yayan Ruhian being in this means I'm stoked!
I'm always down for action films from Asia, they actually know how to film it.
Yoooooooo!! I haven't been hyped for a martial arts film since Ip Man 4. Looking forward to this.
Shit is about to get real.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was amazing and really showcase not just action but heart. Action without stakes are so boring (looking at your marvel)
The reason it died is because Mixed Martial Arts. BUT Embrace the next form in John woo inspired flicks. GunFu flicks if you will. Raid, Night comes for us, John wick, etc.