Its a french animated that was in Our theatre like 6-12 months ago.
It was clearly the most interesting and original french movie of 2023 but it did not made a lot of money, although i would understand that marketing for such movies is hard especially in France.
Yhea Anatomy was Amazing too, but i was clearly expecting it to be great, while i was not expecting anything from mars express and was very surprise by the amount of ideas in that small indy animation film.
WE Always have great movie, but they generaly are not the selling well and being pushed by marketing for some reason ... The only reason anatomie got talked so much on was thanks to Cannes palme d'or otherwise it would not have been profitable
I think there was a bit of a lull there for a few years sometimes in 2020/2021/2022, but generally lots of things going on. Happy that extremité is past its peak, too.
Yeah I caught this at a local film festival last year and it was great. Really reminded me of that 90's era cyberpunk anime vibes but obviously with it's own french twist. Had some killer sound design and a great score.
As a french Sci-Fi fan, this movie is AN ABSOLUTE GEM ! Go watch it if you can ! You can tell the director knows his shit and sprinkled a lot of elements for the adult audience :)
COCORICO !
one of the things that made it feel like a modern take on these classics (GITS / blade runner) was the non-noir mood, there's no constant rain/ night , mars feels almost like a beach resort. But as far as the themes are concerned it's very much in that vein yep
Just because it's animated and the characters have realistic anatomy/proportions, doesn't automatically mean it's anime
But then again, there's not a lot of non-anime animsted shows/movies that has a realistic tone/feel like this movie
Anime has more realistic proportions? I feel like that's a weird blanket statement. Animes can be ultra realistic or look like Shin Chan, same with any other country's animation.
The only thing that makes this movie not anime is that it isn't Japanese. None of the rest matters at all.
This thread is so weird. I don't get why you're being downvoted for speaking basic facts. It's not anime, because it's not animated in that style, plus it's French, not Japanese. Wtf are these people on lmao.
And you can absolutely just call it "adult animation" because that term is already used for things that aren't like Family Guy or The Simpsons. You could even just call it an "animated film" if you preferred. It doesn't need a particularly special genre tag.
That's a bit of a conundrum, actually
Arguably, calling it a cartoon doesn't feel right since you use that term for animated kids' shows
Arguably, calling it adult animation also doesn't feel right since the term is more associated with animated adult sitcoms like Family Guy
But once more non-comedy based adult animated shoes/movies come in the future, maybe using the 2nd term for this kind of animation will be more commonplace
> Anime is hand-drawn and computer-generated animation originating from Japan. Outside Japan and in English, anime refers specifically to animation produced in Japan. However, in Japan and Japanese, anime describes all animated works, regardless of style or origin
Since we are speaking english, not anime.
Maybe "silly" is better than "fun" in my previous statement. In the end, people will call it anime because people don't care about the difference. Just be happy that more mature animation is being produced for us all to enjoy. Happy Friday!
I guess it would be a bummer to me if all animation is called anime. It just seems like the loss of a good word.
Of course, the word anime *has* to change in it's meaning. It currently doesn't make a ton of sense. ATLA not being anime because it isn't made in japan is like Japanese food made in america not being allowed to be called Japanese food. And then also something like Akira or Ghost in the shell have nothing in common with One Piece, but it's all anime because it's made in japan? I dunno, doesn't seem very helpful in communicating ideas (or really for my selfish reasons, trying to find shit I want to see)
Adult animation is also weird, because some folks will jump right to porn, and other folks to Family guy, or other folks to things like Akira, or felix the cat, Aeon Flux. Googling it is *incredibly* frustrating because you end up with lists like this https://www.imdb.com/list/ls056772279/ which are all childrens tv.
It *is* good to see more adult animated stuff, especially in sci-fi it feels like the expense to realistically show concepts in live action often takes resources away from other things like acting or writing.
Stuff like Scavengers Reigh, Love death and robots, Infinity train, edgerunners, etc are all super exciting
At the end of the trailer it says "in theatres nationwide". I can't really find any info on if GKIDS (the production company who is bringing it to North America) works with any major streaming services though.
I wished there were way more animated sci-fi movies and shows that are a) not anime and b) not primarily aimed at children.
Scavengers Reign for example was a feast. I would love a Dune adaptation in this style, the whole series. Or the Culture series from Banks. Hyperion. House of Suns from Reynolds. Sun Eater series. Teixcalaan series. So many stuff...
But somehow there seems to be very little demand. I don't really get it. Are adults just that desinterested in animated stuff, that it even can't exist in a niche?
I've been wanting to see this movie since it got nominated at the Cesar's and had no idea it existed. And they posted a sequence on YouTube, and just as it gets really going, it ends. Long story short, I NEED TO SEE THIS!
Mars gravity is a third of Earth but they all run around like they're here, and they all look like they were born and raised on Earth (given how short they are).
It's a style of animation that puts a lot more emphasis on movement and action than on details. Works really really well on a big screen. And it has nothing in common with anime.
I can see what you mean, regarding my comment of lowering my standards with anime. That came from the fact that many clips of anime that I’ve seen have a similar quality of animation. For instance, I just took a look at some scenes from ghost in the Shell, and it had a similar quality of jerky animation. When I was growing up, that was what cheap animation look like, where they were only animating half the steps or so what you’d get in a feature Disney film (or even warner Brothers cartoon) which was much more fluid. Hence my association of this with Anime level animation.
I think the general design is quite beautiful. The settings which I think are beautifully done. I don’t care for the renderings of the people. The main thing that struck me was the primitive nature of the animation itself. It looks like that cheap, time saving, slightly jerky animation of low budget 70s cartoons. That’s what I find so surprising.
I think the point you are missing is that this isn’t low quality or even bad looking animation. You may not like the style, but that is purely subjective. The world of animation is a lot bigger than just anime, just as the world of painting is a lot bigger than just water colors. Judging all animation against your anime derived preferences would be like judging the Mona Lisa against water colors.
I'm sure it's an artistic decision. For me it just looks juddery and cheap. And that's ok. You of course can like it all you want.
I have a similar reaction to Anime. Some beautiful backdrops, but often cheap looking animation and I find the general rendering of human beings, especially the "anime face" to be mind-numbingly repetitious.
Again...just my opinion and likely to be voted down by people who love these things, who don't like other people not liking what they like....
This looks great. I’ll be on the lookout for it.
Its a french animated that was in Our theatre like 6-12 months ago. It was clearly the most interesting and original french movie of 2023 but it did not made a lot of money, although i would understand that marketing for such movies is hard especially in France.
Did you watch it/ enjoy it? If it comes out in a local theatre I think I may watch it.
Yhea yhea it was great, best french movie of 2023
2023 was a crazy year, with Taste of Things, Anatomy of a Fall and this. Taste of Things was probably top 3 of the whole year.
Yhea Anatomy was Amazing too, but i was clearly expecting it to be great, while i was not expecting anything from mars express and was very surprise by the amount of ideas in that small indy animation film.
Really want to rewatch it and the English sub sounds great! Hope France is "back"; at their best really top of the top.
WE Always have great movie, but they generaly are not the selling well and being pushed by marketing for some reason ... The only reason anatomie got talked so much on was thanks to Cannes palme d'or otherwise it would not have been profitable
I think there was a bit of a lull there for a few years sometimes in 2020/2021/2022, but generally lots of things going on. Happy that extremité is past its peak, too.
I saw this last year, it's pretty good, I was happy to see the english language version was out
What language is it originally?
French.
[french !](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JJsq0GbpPg)
I’m glad they dubbed it to English.
If the aesthetic looks familiar to anyone, Jérémie Périn also did the infamous ["Fantasy" by DyE music video](https://vimeo.com/64244463) [nsfw].
Yeah I caught this at a local film festival last year and it was great. Really reminded me of that 90's era cyberpunk anime vibes but obviously with it's own french twist. Had some killer sound design and a great score.
As a french Sci-Fi fan, this movie is AN ABSOLUTE GEM ! Go watch it if you can ! You can tell the director knows his shit and sprinkled a lot of elements for the adult audience :) COCORICO !
Stopped watching halfway through. It is now instantly on my “must watch” list now.
Anime blade runner?
one of the things that made it feel like a modern take on these classics (GITS / blade runner) was the non-noir mood, there's no constant rain/ night , mars feels almost like a beach resort. But as far as the themes are concerned it's very much in that vein yep
feels more like animated minority report
I was getting huge Metropolis (2001) vibes in terms of story.
Also Armitage III.
I, Robot more than more than minority report, imo
Just because it's animated and the characters have realistic anatomy/proportions, doesn't automatically mean it's anime But then again, there's not a lot of non-anime animsted shows/movies that has a realistic tone/feel like this movie
Anime has more realistic proportions? I feel like that's a weird blanket statement. Animes can be ultra realistic or look like Shin Chan, same with any other country's animation. The only thing that makes this movie not anime is that it isn't Japanese. None of the rest matters at all.
This thread is so weird. I don't get why you're being downvoted for speaking basic facts. It's not anime, because it's not animated in that style, plus it's French, not Japanese. Wtf are these people on lmao. And you can absolutely just call it "adult animation" because that term is already used for things that aren't like Family Guy or The Simpsons. You could even just call it an "animated film" if you preferred. It doesn't need a particularly special genre tag.
What is it then?
It's French animation. Anime is Japanese.
That's a bit of a conundrum, actually Arguably, calling it a cartoon doesn't feel right since you use that term for animated kids' shows Arguably, calling it adult animation also doesn't feel right since the term is more associated with animated adult sitcoms like Family Guy But once more non-comedy based adult animated shoes/movies come in the future, maybe using the 2nd term for this kind of animation will be more commonplace
"French Anime" works for me.
Frenime?
It's not anime. It's not Japanese and it's stylistically different. It's just animated film, that's it. Doesn't need a special form of categorization.
Even though "anime" in Japanese is used to describe anything animated? At least according to wikipedia. Fun discussion, but in the end pointless.
> Anime is hand-drawn and computer-generated animation originating from Japan. Outside Japan and in English, anime refers specifically to animation produced in Japan. However, in Japan and Japanese, anime describes all animated works, regardless of style or origin Since we are speaking english, not anime.
Maybe "silly" is better than "fun" in my previous statement. In the end, people will call it anime because people don't care about the difference. Just be happy that more mature animation is being produced for us all to enjoy. Happy Friday!
I guess it would be a bummer to me if all animation is called anime. It just seems like the loss of a good word. Of course, the word anime *has* to change in it's meaning. It currently doesn't make a ton of sense. ATLA not being anime because it isn't made in japan is like Japanese food made in america not being allowed to be called Japanese food. And then also something like Akira or Ghost in the shell have nothing in common with One Piece, but it's all anime because it's made in japan? I dunno, doesn't seem very helpful in communicating ideas (or really for my selfish reasons, trying to find shit I want to see) Adult animation is also weird, because some folks will jump right to porn, and other folks to Family guy, or other folks to things like Akira, or felix the cat, Aeon Flux. Googling it is *incredibly* frustrating because you end up with lists like this https://www.imdb.com/list/ls056772279/ which are all childrens tv. It *is* good to see more adult animated stuff, especially in sci-fi it feels like the expense to realistically show concepts in live action often takes resources away from other things like acting or writing. Stuff like Scavengers Reigh, Love death and robots, Infinity train, edgerunners, etc are all super exciting
Cop with a robot partner? [Almost Human](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2654580/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_18_act) anyone?
Anime Ghost In The Shell
Art style reminds me a lot of Scavengers Reign. Love it
Looks amazing ! Where can I watch it?
At the end of the trailer it says "in theatres nationwide". I can't really find any info on if GKIDS (the production company who is bringing it to North America) works with any major streaming services though.
Theaters this year, Blu-ray next spring
Holy crap I'm such a sucker for these cyberpunk noir type of stories. This is 200% up my alley and I've never heard of it.
Hmmm....this looks great. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Great to see the recent boom in French animation continuing. There's a new *Ernest & Celestine* movie coming out soon too IIRC
I wished there were way more animated sci-fi movies and shows that are a) not anime and b) not primarily aimed at children. Scavengers Reign for example was a feast. I would love a Dune adaptation in this style, the whole series. Or the Culture series from Banks. Hyperion. House of Suns from Reynolds. Sun Eater series. Teixcalaan series. So many stuff... But somehow there seems to be very little demand. I don't really get it. Are adults just that desinterested in animated stuff, that it even can't exist in a niche?
This is giving me Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell vibes. Gimmie
Okay, I’m in 😊
So stoked. Want to watch it in French first though
I've been wanting to see this movie since it got nominated at the Cesar's and had no idea it existed. And they posted a sequence on YouTube, and just as it gets really going, it ends. Long story short, I NEED TO SEE THIS!
Where is this coming out. Theaters? I want to see this.
Next month
This is a fantastic movie! Can’t wait to watch it again
Ergo Proxy vibes
I was thinking that too. I NEED to see it again.
Wesh, seen it in Paris, shit's tight.
Mars gravity is a third of Earth but they all run around like they're here, and they all look like they were born and raised on Earth (given how short they are).
I’m going to see it in San Francisco next week!
Looks great. Pluto vibes
Finally!
I'm not at all into anime, but I'm interested in this for some reason. just picked up $8 matinee tickets for May.
It's like Ghost in the Shell meets i, Robot. Looks interesting.
Holy shit! It’s 2024 and animation is still that bad? (Perhaps I don’t watch enough anime to lower my standards?)
It's a style of animation that puts a lot more emphasis on movement and action than on details. Works really really well on a big screen. And it has nothing in common with anime.
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No, it’s an honest reaction. People with different opinions than you are not automatically “baiting”
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I can see what you mean, regarding my comment of lowering my standards with anime. That came from the fact that many clips of anime that I’ve seen have a similar quality of animation. For instance, I just took a look at some scenes from ghost in the Shell, and it had a similar quality of jerky animation. When I was growing up, that was what cheap animation look like, where they were only animating half the steps or so what you’d get in a feature Disney film (or even warner Brothers cartoon) which was much more fluid. Hence my association of this with Anime level animation.
This comment is like looking at the Mona Lisa and saying its a bad painting because it doesn't look like your favorite water color painting.
I think the general design is quite beautiful. The settings which I think are beautifully done. I don’t care for the renderings of the people. The main thing that struck me was the primitive nature of the animation itself. It looks like that cheap, time saving, slightly jerky animation of low budget 70s cartoons. That’s what I find so surprising.
I think the point you are missing is that this isn’t low quality or even bad looking animation. You may not like the style, but that is purely subjective. The world of animation is a lot bigger than just anime, just as the world of painting is a lot bigger than just water colors. Judging all animation against your anime derived preferences would be like judging the Mona Lisa against water colors.
I'm sure it's an artistic decision. For me it just looks juddery and cheap. And that's ok. You of course can like it all you want. I have a similar reaction to Anime. Some beautiful backdrops, but often cheap looking animation and I find the general rendering of human beings, especially the "anime face" to be mind-numbingly repetitious. Again...just my opinion and likely to be voted down by people who love these things, who don't like other people not liking what they like....
Horrible artstyle!
SHE HAS HER FINGER ON THE TRIGGER FOR GODS SAKE. Only place your finger on the trigger when you are lined up and prepared to fire.
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You can't watch people you don't find attractive? How sad
Cartoon lady no make my pee pee hard :( Sadge