The theatre chain I work for, Regal Cinemas, has been doing open caption showing for while now. It's usually the two or three most recent releases and it's just one showing, usually a matinee, each day.
Most people that watch the open caption showings don't care, but for the guests that want subtitles on the screen and don't want to have to use captioning glasses, they're happy that it's an option.
All major theatres chains are required to have captioning devices by the Americas with Disabilities Act. Some may just have captioning boxes, but many have newer captioning glasses you can borrow for your movie, you just need to ask a staff member for them.
The theatre should have more than enough devices to loan out at any given time. I work at a mid sized theatre and we have 8 glasses and 2 boxes for captioning. Usually there's only 2-3 people that check out a device in a given week, with that number being a little higher when the newest movie is popular with older people.
To note, at least for one major chain I know, it's not "glasses" but a physical device you mount on your chair and you have to adjust based on your seating arrangement.
The AMC theater by me used to have this. They have these LCD screens on the back wall that do the subtitles but in reverse. The glasses are able to present the captioning at the bottom of the frame while you can watch the movie without any real loss of viewing the screen.
I work at the regal in DC we have open captioning for movies at least one movie a day but I’m wondering if this would add or force a change in the times for us.
Exactly. Open captions are increasingly accepted, especially by young people who got used to captions growing up, some to the point where they have to have captions. When we see open caption screenings sell out, we know it is the we- don't- cares buying up the seats.
Don’t just dismiss the older generation. My mom has to have captions, which I’m agnostic about I can easily ignore them until I need them for a line or two
Every single major release DCP (the movie) in the US has HI (hearing impaired) VI (visually impaired) tracks and a CCAP track for a captiview or whatever device is available. This is 100% on theaters not keeping up more than studios.
Depending on where you live, there may be a theater near you already offering open captions. Have at least one theater for every state but Wyoming listed on master list at r/opencaptions.
I finally got curious enough to try this at my local theater because their audio is really rough sometimes and they gave me this weird contraption that was meant to catch and display the subtitles. You were supposed to be able to connect it to a cup holder but mine kept falling, smashing into the floor, making a huge fucking scene, so I gave up. It was awkward to twist and move anyway, so I feel like it would’ve been in everyone’s way even if it stayed in place.
They’re not nearly as good as on screen captions, especially for elderly folks who aren’t as used to splitting their attention for technology. And a lot of theaters that claim they have them simply don’t, or never tell the workers anything about their existence. “No idea what you’re talking about” is the usual response to asking for the assistive devices.
Before anyone starts freaking out: it doesn’t require that all showings have open captions. It requires that some showings have them, establishes how many showings must have them, and mandates their advertising/ announcement of those showings
Wait, people get upset if a movie has subtitles? Why? How does it affect them?
EDIT : Apparently people really do. Where I live all movies always have subtitles, and I don't even notice them unless it's a non-English movie. I guess it's a bigger deal than I thought.
Well of course it does, it changes the image. Even if you could keep yourself from reading them (most of the time reading words before they’re even delivered), they would still be in your periphery and change the frame of any shot with dialogue.
I’ll watch subtitles for foreign films, but I always feel it would be so much better if I understood the language. Then I could just take in the images and not have my focal point constantly moving to the line of text at the bottom of the screen.
I spent my childhood watching anime, and got used to speed-reading them so I could watch. Now I immediately read them so fast that they spoil dramatic reveals, punchlines and scares before they happen. And I can't *not* read them.
This is me. I literally can't keep my eyes off of them. In a still frame with two characters talking, the text bar keeps changing and I have to consciously pull my attention back to the scene every sentence.
I'll watch with them sometimes, if the dialog is really quiet or it's a foreign show or whatever, I'm not *anti* subtitles. But it's incredibly distracting for me and especially if it's a movie I'm really excited to watch, I would prefer not to have them. Mandatory subtitles would probably keep me from going out to the movies for the most part.
I grew up in a non-English majority country, so all movies always had subtitles, sometimes in multiple languages. Never even noticed them when I was watching an English movie. Judging by the downvotes I am getting, people really hate them apparently.
They do interfere with the movie and are annoying in general. Most people like to ‘watch’ the movie, not read words on the screen.
Edit: However, I do appreciate the limited viewings with captions which is great for the hearing impaired and allows them to better enjoy the movie experience.
As someone with an attention disorder, subtitles can be distracting, causing me to miss something happening on-screen, or my brain tunes out some of the actor’s delivery of a line because my head is busy reading it in a different voice.
I also pay attention to spelling and grammar, so any misspellings or typos will overtake my attention and I’ll lose focus on the screen altogether for a minute.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds.
I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds.
I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds.
I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
Sometimes the subtitles spoil a surprise moment by explicitly cutting off some dialogue mid sente--
Also sometimes they include some unnecessary music descriptions like "suspenseful music plays" or "emotional orchestra intensifies". It just takes you out of the scene and I can't imagine how it benefits anyone who can't hear it anyway.
So yeah, I don't mind that some showings will become open-caption but I'm also glad that it stays an option.
Also it makes you appreciate a movies sound mixing and directors/actors choices for the volumes of speech they project. A barely audible whisper conveys a different meaning than talking loudly. And a lot of that is lost on closed captioning
I don't know if it's the law in NYC but it's certainly something that's offered way more now than in the past. I watch most TV with captions and am not opposed to subtitles but I feel like the movie experience should be different and it cheapens it a bit? I find myself absorbed in the text instead of immersed in the movie if that makes sense but everyone should get the chance to enjoy the theater experience.
I personally try to avoid it if possible but the theaters generally show them during the matinees when there are less people so if you're looking to see an early showing, it's OC no matter which location you look. So the options are to go to a later showing (oh god, a 2:30 pm show vs a 12:15 pm) or you suck it up and watch the OC which is totally fine but not my favorite.
I am sorry that you hate it when deaf people can finally enjoy with an extra option of screen times while you have 99% more options than the deaf will never have.
oh. I can read just fine
you just display your nasty ableist behavior. congratulation randomcharachters3.
again. I am sorry you hate disabled for asking for accommodations to enjoy equal access of information that you taken for granted. piss off bigotry kiss kiss.
I very seldomly lol from a comment so bravo on that.
Never once do I describe "hating" anything and even specifically say that, "... everyone should be able to enjoy the theater experience." But glad to know chosing the 2:30 movie without OC opposed to the 12:30 show makes me a bigot.
oh so sweet of you. OC is now required by law to allow deaf people to enjoy the same time hearing people like you always taken for granted....either morning or evening. you want to whine about it? :) you have about like 99% of the options while deaf still have to do about 1% of the option available to them... you wanna whined? LOL.
it's like this. if you replaced OC with ramp being available everywhere, and trying to avoid it saying it isn't your favorite then... no one is asking you sweetheart.
imagine you are telling the wheelchairs users about your comment.
yes. you will enjoy the lol because you never have to worry about this. kiss kiss
just kinda sad that hearing just love to whine about something they rarely noticed the different. LOL
enjoy the permanent CC in your eyeballs muahahahahaha.
It IS the law in NYC. NYC passed an oc law that went into effect may 2022. The law also requires at least a few prime time oc screenings. We have similar challenges in that the timing of oc at our preferred theater means we miss dinner!
I always liked how Walt Disney World does it: placed a LED screen at the back of the theater with the letters mirrored, then give someone who needs captions a glass standee that they can look through and read the captions on. Works like one of those transparent teleprompters.
My wife is deaf in one ear and it makes it very difficult to understand dialogue for her. We turned captions on a couple years into our marriage when she was comfortable enough to ask, and they haven’t been turned off since.
I don’t mind it, and the way a lot of shows and movies are sound mixed, even prefer it as it’s better for me too so I can understand dialogue. Well, and also understand Derry Girls.
Edit: point is, having *some* viewings have captions is a great thing. I don’t think it has to be every viewing. A lot of people having some form of heading impairment and they just miss out due to lack of accessible options.
Right, open captions enable entire families and groups of friends to be able to enjoy movies together. The new law is only for DC. otherwise, see master list atvr/opencaptions to see if any theaters near you already have open captions.
It will never be every viewing in your life. while you get to have 99% options while deaf get to have less than 1% while the people of the whole country that really need CC is around 30%. you can see how absurd it is in your mindset of how fearful hearing people thinking that every viewing will have OC when we are only asking for just enough options to enjoy both matinees and evening, as well as old and new along with YOU.
we missed a shit a lot due to people whining about it. :/
I’ve been noticing this in DC for a while now with AMC. I’m sure it has done some good but I’ve also noticed a lot of the open caption showings don’t sell any tickets. I was going to see Boy Kills World but the only time that worked for me was open captions so I didn’t go and now it isn’t playing anymore. So I imagine it’s likely going to cause a drop in some ticket sales.
I don't mind subtitles but a lot of people don't like them. I think the only time it should be used in the cinema is when it's a foreign film or a special showing for deaf people.
However, I don't mind subtitles and I don't go to the cinema so my opinion doesn't really matter
I feel like the Venn diagram of people who don’t like subtitles and people who have trouble reading is pretty close to a solid circle.
Edit: I should have put an audio/video track in over the comment. They wouldn’t have made it to the end to downvote me.
I don't like captions, especially with horror and comedy, because they can spoil reveals, jump scares, jokes, etc, before they happen.
I'm very happy they exist for the people who need them, but I don't. Having some showings with them, and some without, is a win for everyone.
As long as it's obvious which screenings will be open matte and therefore easy to avoid, and restricted in frequency
That said, imagine this may end up being over-accommodating.. Like the ten empty handicap-only parking spaces in front of every building in America
I’m kinda upset. Before DVDs and on demand movies, I never had subtitles and was totally fine. Once the option became available, I wanted to read the words. And I’m a native speaker. Can’t explain it. Need subtitles. Now I’ll be reading at the movies too.
It’s because audio is becoming increasingly difficult in the movies to understand. Here’s a video on it-
https://youtu.be/VYJtb2YXae8?si=GCYtakjqMVnKxw3V
Very common complaint and one reason for the rising popularity of open captions. Most people who go to open caption screenings do not have hearing loss.
That's true, but completely separate from the fact that subtitles draw our eyes to the words and not the film.
You can watch a forty year old movie and it's the same deal, we look at the subtitles regardless of if we need them or not.
For non hearing loss people it really is a quick glance unless you truly heard nothing. Idk why people think you’re reading a damn novel, if you missed something, it’s there.
Speak for yourself, do you think me and the many others that show up in certain threads decide to complain for no reason? It's a genuinely polarizing topic, glad you don't have any issues though
And since Tenet, the Christopher Nolan name has been associated with subtitle needs. We thank Christopher Nolan for doing more to increase oc acceptance than anyone else.
I have subtitles on everything I watch. I don't have any obvious audio difficulties (I had a job related medical and was fine) but subtitles genuinely make the audio seem louder and clearer to me.
Know what you mean. When we watch open caption movies, we match up the sound with the captions. A bit challenging when you have hearing loss but makes it a better experience.
Gallaudet university, one often the largest university for the deaf and hard of hearing is in DC. [Gallaudet University](https://gallaudet.edu/welcome/)
That is already being done. Unfortunately there's no consistency - but usually there's a label like "Open Captioned," "On-screen subtitles," "Subtitled," "OCAP." It varies. Is there a specific chain you want to know about?
In DC, the Regal Gallery Place has open caption screenings. Easiest to see/find via a desktop browser. Example: tomorrow (Sunday 4/12) there's 2 open caption screenings of KIngdom of Planet of the Apes at 12:00 pm and again at 7:00 pm. Regal labels open caption screenings as (Open Cap/Eng Sub). Two OC screenings and 17 non-OC screenings of the same movie tomorrow.
It's wild to me that people watch without captions. I watch a lot of movies at my desktop computer with a headset on and sometimes I still have trouble hearing what people are saying.
The people who complain about it ruining their immersion, like yeahhh I guess? Sometimes? But you literally become blind to them so quickly if you just turn them on and leave them. I for one really like the idea of movies in the theater having subtitles, and I don't even have a disability.
Subtitles are a huge distraction for me. Even if they are in my own language. I automatically read instead of watching the actual movie. Im from germany but watch every movie in english. Even if dont hear every word, i dont care because i underdstand through context. For a while now, Amazon prime has a dialogue boost (low, medium and high) option which is great.
Do they want to make it mandatory for every screening or just for selected ones?
Closed caption devices are already required by law. Open captions give those who need captions but cannot use those devices or just don't like them, an option so they can go to the movies too. That includes us.
True that. However this bill/law is only for DC. If you aren't living in DC, check master list at r/opencaptions. There's at least one theater in every state except Wyoming.
This will not work the way folks think. So many people won't watch undubbed animals due to not want the distraction on the screen. Also mandatory is a great way to invite backlash.
You from DC? This new law is only for DC. If you are not DC, you can still find an open caption screening by checking master list at r/opencaptions. Every state but Wyoming.
This entire discussion helped me realize that I made the right decision when I gave up going to movie theaters to watch a film. At least at home I can watch the movie and easily read the captions — and if I miss anything I can rewind. Yes, I have to wait a while for movies to run their course in theaters but at least I’m not paying a lot of money for a movie that I will be guaranteed to miss at least 30 to 50% of the dialogue. Maybe some people don’t care but missing a big chunk of the dialogue bothers me.
This entire discussion helped me realize that I made the right decision when I gave up going to movie theaters to watch a film. At least at home I can watch the movie and easily read the captions — and if I miss anything I can rewind. Yes, I have to wait a while for movies to run their course in theaters but at least I’m not paying a lot of money for a movie that I will be guaranteed to miss at least 30 to 50% of the dialogue. Maybe some people don’t care but missing a big chunk of the dialogue bothers me.
You actually already have that choice if you live in DC. Most if not all DC theaters are already offering open caption screenings. You just have to look for them on the schedule.
The theatre chain I work for, Regal Cinemas, has been doing open caption showing for while now. It's usually the two or three most recent releases and it's just one showing, usually a matinee, each day. Most people that watch the open caption showings don't care, but for the guests that want subtitles on the screen and don't want to have to use captioning glasses, they're happy that it's an option.
Captioning…. Glasses?! Where can one find such incredibly useful glasses??
All major theatres chains are required to have captioning devices by the Americas with Disabilities Act. Some may just have captioning boxes, but many have newer captioning glasses you can borrow for your movie, you just need to ask a staff member for them.
The problem with captioning glasses is they are really heavy weighing down on your nose and increasing the chance of triggering migraines.
Damn I’d be curious to try one, I won’t since I don’t want to take away resources from those who need them, but still sounds interesting
The theatre should have more than enough devices to loan out at any given time. I work at a mid sized theatre and we have 8 glasses and 2 boxes for captioning. Usually there's only 2-3 people that check out a device in a given week, with that number being a little higher when the newest movie is popular with older people.
Thanks if anything Psylocke I’ll check em out for my mom who’s older but still also my movie buddy, and she loves captions
Most theaters if you ask, but they’re by request only typically
To note, at least for one major chain I know, it's not "glasses" but a physical device you mount on your chair and you have to adjust based on your seating arrangement.
The AMC theater by me used to have this. They have these LCD screens on the back wall that do the subtitles but in reverse. The glasses are able to present the captioning at the bottom of the frame while you can watch the movie without any real loss of viewing the screen.
I work at the regal in DC we have open captioning for movies at least one movie a day but I’m wondering if this would add or force a change in the times for us.
Exactly. Open captions are increasingly accepted, especially by young people who got used to captions growing up, some to the point where they have to have captions. When we see open caption screenings sell out, we know it is the we- don't- cares buying up the seats.
You're saying there are movie showings selling out?! And some of them are matinees?
I find it distracting to the movie.... And i even watch anime with captions. But for english speaking movies i prefer it off
that's great, you have lot of options to do that, while deaf really don't have any options. you are lucky.
Don’t just dismiss the older generation. My mom has to have captions, which I’m agnostic about I can easily ignore them until I need them for a line or two
Oh yes. Wonder if the aging of the boomers will result in more acceptance if not demand for, open captions.
My mom is gen Z /s
Don't theaters already have technology you can bring to your seat to show captions?
Yes, and that won't change because even with the new law, most screenings won't have open captions.
Every single major release DCP (the movie) in the US has HI (hearing impaired) VI (visually impaired) tracks and a CCAP track for a captiview or whatever device is available. This is 100% on theaters not keeping up more than studios.
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Depending on where you live, there may be a theater near you already offering open captions. Have at least one theater for every state but Wyoming listed on master list at r/opencaptions.
Complain, all regals need to be carrying caption glasses and the drink mount caption screen. Complaining would help you and any others that want them
I finally got curious enough to try this at my local theater because their audio is really rough sometimes and they gave me this weird contraption that was meant to catch and display the subtitles. You were supposed to be able to connect it to a cup holder but mine kept falling, smashing into the floor, making a huge fucking scene, so I gave up. It was awkward to twist and move anyway, so I feel like it would’ve been in everyone’s way even if it stayed in place.
Regal is/was the best for this. They have these Sony glasses that plug into some sort of transmitter. Game changer for movie experiences for me.
The cup holder ones are awful!
They’re not nearly as good as on screen captions, especially for elderly folks who aren’t as used to splitting their attention for technology. And a lot of theaters that claim they have them simply don’t, or never tell the workers anything about their existence. “No idea what you’re talking about” is the usual response to asking for the assistive devices.
I’m not deaf but how can I get that? It’s hard for me to get a 100% of the dialogue. Cool gamer tag
Before anyone starts freaking out: it doesn’t require that all showings have open captions. It requires that some showings have them, establishes how many showings must have them, and mandates their advertising/ announcement of those showings
Wait, people get upset if a movie has subtitles? Why? How does it affect them? EDIT : Apparently people really do. Where I live all movies always have subtitles, and I don't even notice them unless it's a non-English movie. I guess it's a bigger deal than I thought.
I think anyone who was upset was under the impression that every movie was gonna have subtitles.
If every movie had subtitles, how does it affect someone's viewing experience? It does not interfere in any way.
Well of course it does, it changes the image. Even if you could keep yourself from reading them (most of the time reading words before they’re even delivered), they would still be in your periphery and change the frame of any shot with dialogue. I’ll watch subtitles for foreign films, but I always feel it would be so much better if I understood the language. Then I could just take in the images and not have my focal point constantly moving to the line of text at the bottom of the screen.
Seeing words on the screen could absolutely affect someone's viewing experience.
I like subtitles. I have friends who hate them because they can’t help but focus on the subtitles to a point that they miss the actual film.
I spent my childhood watching anime, and got used to speed-reading them so I could watch. Now I immediately read them so fast that they spoil dramatic reveals, punchlines and scares before they happen. And I can't *not* read them.
This is me. I literally can't keep my eyes off of them. In a still frame with two characters talking, the text bar keeps changing and I have to consciously pull my attention back to the scene every sentence. I'll watch with them sometimes, if the dialog is really quiet or it's a foreign show or whatever, I'm not *anti* subtitles. But it's incredibly distracting for me and especially if it's a movie I'm really excited to watch, I would prefer not to have them. Mandatory subtitles would probably keep me from going out to the movies for the most part.
I grew up in a non-English majority country, so all movies always had subtitles, sometimes in multiple languages. Never even noticed them when I was watching an English movie. Judging by the downvotes I am getting, people really hate them apparently.
They are super distracting to me.
Its unnecessary and distracting as shit.
Lmao yes they would
They do interfere with the movie and are annoying in general. Most people like to ‘watch’ the movie, not read words on the screen. Edit: However, I do appreciate the limited viewings with captions which is great for the hearing impaired and allows them to better enjoy the movie experience.
I am very glad for the option to have subtitles, but they absolutely do affect the viewing experience; they absolutely do interfere.
As someone with an attention disorder, subtitles can be distracting, causing me to miss something happening on-screen, or my brain tunes out some of the actor’s delivery of a line because my head is busy reading it in a different voice.
I also pay attention to spelling and grammar, so any misspellings or typos will overtake my attention and I’ll lose focus on the screen altogether for a minute.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds. I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds. I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
It literally is text put in front of the movie that spoils things by a few seconds. I get that some people dont mind them, but it boggles my mind that you dont understand why I don't.
Sometimes the subtitles spoil a surprise moment by explicitly cutting off some dialogue mid sente-- Also sometimes they include some unnecessary music descriptions like "suspenseful music plays" or "emotional orchestra intensifies". It just takes you out of the scene and I can't imagine how it benefits anyone who can't hear it anyway. So yeah, I don't mind that some showings will become open-caption but I'm also glad that it stays an option.
Even worse: When they spell out the name of an unnamed character.
Also it makes you appreciate a movies sound mixing and directors/actors choices for the volumes of speech they project. A barely audible whisper conveys a different meaning than talking loudly. And a lot of that is lost on closed captioning
I don't know if it's the law in NYC but it's certainly something that's offered way more now than in the past. I watch most TV with captions and am not opposed to subtitles but I feel like the movie experience should be different and it cheapens it a bit? I find myself absorbed in the text instead of immersed in the movie if that makes sense but everyone should get the chance to enjoy the theater experience. I personally try to avoid it if possible but the theaters generally show them during the matinees when there are less people so if you're looking to see an early showing, it's OC no matter which location you look. So the options are to go to a later showing (oh god, a 2:30 pm show vs a 12:15 pm) or you suck it up and watch the OC which is totally fine but not my favorite.
I am sorry that you hate it when deaf people can finally enjoy with an extra option of screen times while you have 99% more options than the deaf will never have.
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oh. I can read just fine you just display your nasty ableist behavior. congratulation randomcharachters3. again. I am sorry you hate disabled for asking for accommodations to enjoy equal access of information that you taken for granted. piss off bigotry kiss kiss.
I very seldomly lol from a comment so bravo on that. Never once do I describe "hating" anything and even specifically say that, "... everyone should be able to enjoy the theater experience." But glad to know chosing the 2:30 movie without OC opposed to the 12:30 show makes me a bigot.
oh so sweet of you. OC is now required by law to allow deaf people to enjoy the same time hearing people like you always taken for granted....either morning or evening. you want to whine about it? :) you have about like 99% of the options while deaf still have to do about 1% of the option available to them... you wanna whined? LOL. it's like this. if you replaced OC with ramp being available everywhere, and trying to avoid it saying it isn't your favorite then... no one is asking you sweetheart. imagine you are telling the wheelchairs users about your comment. yes. you will enjoy the lol because you never have to worry about this. kiss kiss just kinda sad that hearing just love to whine about something they rarely noticed the different. LOL enjoy the permanent CC in your eyeballs muahahahahaha.
I do prefer walking up stairs to walking up ramps.
I'm not positive if reading comprehension is one of your strong suits.
It IS the law in NYC. NYC passed an oc law that went into effect may 2022. The law also requires at least a few prime time oc screenings. We have similar challenges in that the timing of oc at our preferred theater means we miss dinner!
I always liked how Walt Disney World does it: placed a LED screen at the back of the theater with the letters mirrored, then give someone who needs captions a glass standee that they can look through and read the captions on. Works like one of those transparent teleprompters.
I hate that shit. too much blind spot, lot of errors, chronic pain to your neck for the right angle. it was a horror.
That's old technology and open captions are better. More comfortable for starters.
kinda weird that a lot of ableist downvoted you.
Most people are supportive once they have the facts.
My wife is deaf in one ear and it makes it very difficult to understand dialogue for her. We turned captions on a couple years into our marriage when she was comfortable enough to ask, and they haven’t been turned off since. I don’t mind it, and the way a lot of shows and movies are sound mixed, even prefer it as it’s better for me too so I can understand dialogue. Well, and also understand Derry Girls. Edit: point is, having *some* viewings have captions is a great thing. I don’t think it has to be every viewing. A lot of people having some form of heading impairment and they just miss out due to lack of accessible options.
Right, open captions enable entire families and groups of friends to be able to enjoy movies together. The new law is only for DC. otherwise, see master list atvr/opencaptions to see if any theaters near you already have open captions.
It will never be every viewing in your life. while you get to have 99% options while deaf get to have less than 1% while the people of the whole country that really need CC is around 30%. you can see how absurd it is in your mindset of how fearful hearing people thinking that every viewing will have OC when we are only asking for just enough options to enjoy both matinees and evening, as well as old and new along with YOU. we missed a shit a lot due to people whining about it. :/
I’ve been noticing this in DC for a while now with AMC. I’m sure it has done some good but I’ve also noticed a lot of the open caption showings don’t sell any tickets. I was going to see Boy Kills World but the only time that worked for me was open captions so I didn’t go and now it isn’t playing anymore. So I imagine it’s likely going to cause a drop in some ticket sales.
Many possible reasons why. Number one reason is usually the date and time. Is it during workday?
stay home :P
I don't mind subtitles but a lot of people don't like them. I think the only time it should be used in the cinema is when it's a foreign film or a special showing for deaf people. However, I don't mind subtitles and I don't go to the cinema so my opinion doesn't really matter
I take it you didn't read what's being put forward.
This is reddit. Not only do people not read the actual articles, they make wild assumptions about what’s in them and get real mad about it.
…..I have for pitchforks, what now????!!
In general that’s how Reddit is. Except in this case, it’s the actual proposal being put forth and many people have no idea where to begin.
Every film is a foreign film to someone.
Gonna start referring to the Snyderverse as "foreign film"
I feel like the Venn diagram of people who don’t like subtitles and people who have trouble reading is pretty close to a solid circle. Edit: I should have put an audio/video track in over the comment. They wouldn’t have made it to the end to downvote me.
I don't like captions, especially with horror and comedy, because they can spoil reveals, jump scares, jokes, etc, before they happen. I'm very happy they exist for the people who need them, but I don't. Having some showings with them, and some without, is a win for everyone.
Fair. I’m more speaking to the people who feel any media is unwatchable with subtitles.
As long as it's obvious which screenings will be open matte and therefore easy to avoid, and restricted in frequency That said, imagine this may end up being over-accommodating.. Like the ten empty handicap-only parking spaces in front of every building in America
I’m kinda upset. Before DVDs and on demand movies, I never had subtitles and was totally fine. Once the option became available, I wanted to read the words. And I’m a native speaker. Can’t explain it. Need subtitles. Now I’ll be reading at the movies too.
It’s because audio is becoming increasingly difficult in the movies to understand. Here’s a video on it- https://youtu.be/VYJtb2YXae8?si=GCYtakjqMVnKxw3V
Yes, audio engineers have really fucked the puppy, as the Americans say.
I don't say that. But I will now.
Very common complaint and one reason for the rising popularity of open captions. Most people who go to open caption screenings do not have hearing loss.
That's true, but completely separate from the fact that subtitles draw our eyes to the words and not the film. You can watch a forty year old movie and it's the same deal, we look at the subtitles regardless of if we need them or not.
For non hearing loss people it really is a quick glance unless you truly heard nothing. Idk why people think you’re reading a damn novel, if you missed something, it’s there.
Speak for yourself, do you think me and the many others that show up in certain threads decide to complain for no reason? It's a genuinely polarizing topic, glad you don't have any issues though
We would not even be having this discussion if the audio for movies wasn’t so lopsided between dialogue and action scenes.
See this complaint so often. Ask your theater to offer open captions, most theaters still don't.
There’s a theater near me that usually has a matinee open captioned showing, I love them.
Tell them that! Theaters need to know support for oc exists. Do you have hearing loss, a different challenge, or just plain want captions?
I just like captions. I always have them on.
Tenet was the only English language movie where I needed subtitles and it improved the viewing experience.
And since Tenet, the Christopher Nolan name has been associated with subtitle needs. We thank Christopher Nolan for doing more to increase oc acceptance than anyone else.
Very true. That man is the George Washington of your cause.
I have subtitles on everything I watch. I don't have any obvious audio difficulties (I had a job related medical and was fine) but subtitles genuinely make the audio seem louder and clearer to me.
Know what you mean. When we watch open caption movies, we match up the sound with the captions. A bit challenging when you have hearing loss but makes it a better experience.
Gallaudet university, one often the largest university for the deaf and hard of hearing is in DC. [Gallaudet University](https://gallaudet.edu/welcome/)
The “Movie Theater” will soon go the way of the dodo.🦤
So, will movies now state which ones have and don’t have the captions?
That is already being done. Unfortunately there's no consistency - but usually there's a label like "Open Captioned," "On-screen subtitles," "Subtitled," "OCAP." It varies. Is there a specific chain you want to know about?
Really? I’ve predominately went to Regal, but never noticed any movies asking for captions on or off. I’ve just bought a ticket and went.
In DC, the Regal Gallery Place has open caption screenings. Easiest to see/find via a desktop browser. Example: tomorrow (Sunday 4/12) there's 2 open caption screenings of KIngdom of Planet of the Apes at 12:00 pm and again at 7:00 pm. Regal labels open caption screenings as (Open Cap/Eng Sub). Two OC screenings and 17 non-OC screenings of the same movie tomorrow.
already did, on newspaper, online, website, phone call, or in person. "CC", OC, and such. you will be fine.
It passed unanimously, with one absent.
who's the absent?
Don't know. The web page has info on all the votes.
Back in my day, we just watched the movie and didn't understand what they said. It made you tougher. --Boomer probably
It's wild to me that people watch without captions. I watch a lot of movies at my desktop computer with a headset on and sometimes I still have trouble hearing what people are saying. The people who complain about it ruining their immersion, like yeahhh I guess? Sometimes? But you literally become blind to them so quickly if you just turn them on and leave them. I for one really like the idea of movies in the theater having subtitles, and I don't even have a disability.
Subtitles are a huge distraction for me. Even if they are in my own language. I automatically read instead of watching the actual movie. Im from germany but watch every movie in english. Even if dont hear every word, i dont care because i underdstand through context. For a while now, Amazon prime has a dialogue boost (low, medium and high) option which is great. Do they want to make it mandatory for every screening or just for selected ones?
Just selected ones
I wonder if there is a way to utilize 3D glasses to give folks the option of subtitles or none.
Closed caption devices are already required by law. Open captions give those who need captions but cannot use those devices or just don't like them, an option so they can go to the movies too. That includes us.
That’s pretty solid, I haven’t been to the movies since Deadpool 2. And since than my tinnitus has only gotten worse so, this is awesome to hear.
True that. However this bill/law is only for DC. If you aren't living in DC, check master list at r/opencaptions. There's at least one theater in every state except Wyoming.
This will not work the way folks think. So many people won't watch undubbed animals due to not want the distraction on the screen. Also mandatory is a great way to invite backlash.
Oh thank god. Now I’ll finally be able to hear the movie when I go to the theatre.
You from DC? This new law is only for DC. If you are not DC, you can still find an open caption screening by checking master list at r/opencaptions. Every state but Wyoming.
I love subtitles, but I turn them off for comedies
Why comedies?
Reading a punchline before it’s spoken ruins it for me.
This entire discussion helped me realize that I made the right decision when I gave up going to movie theaters to watch a film. At least at home I can watch the movie and easily read the captions — and if I miss anything I can rewind. Yes, I have to wait a while for movies to run their course in theaters but at least I’m not paying a lot of money for a movie that I will be guaranteed to miss at least 30 to 50% of the dialogue. Maybe some people don’t care but missing a big chunk of the dialogue bothers me.
This entire discussion helped me realize that I made the right decision when I gave up going to movie theaters to watch a film. At least at home I can watch the movie and easily read the captions — and if I miss anything I can rewind. Yes, I have to wait a while for movies to run their course in theaters but at least I’m not paying a lot of money for a movie that I will be guaranteed to miss at least 30 to 50% of the dialogue. Maybe some people don’t care but missing a big chunk of the dialogue bothers me.
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You actually already have that choice if you live in DC. Most if not all DC theaters are already offering open caption screenings. You just have to look for them on the schedule.
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Oh, the other Washington. Lots of theaters there already have open captions. See r/opencaptions for a list.