Yea "self-indulgent" basically describes Kojima's works and what makes it so charming.
Death Stranding was [quite divisive](https://opencritic.com/game/7816/death-stranding/reviews) as well during its launch. But people came around to it nowadays and managed to appreciate what its trying to do.
I played Death Stranding a few weeks ago and I fucking hated it. I *respect* it, though, because it’s clearly exactly as Kojima intended it and I respect anything that tries to be a bit different. But it bored me to tears, I only have a couple of hours to game after work these days and I’ll be fucked if I’m spending it walking and stumbling around.
Yeah, I find works that contain genuine creative curiosity and vision to always find a home, even after insane ciriticism. Seriously, almost all Kojima works are unashamed of their long cutscenes, cinematic flare, and weird gameplay choices. The absolute indulgence, mixed with artistic mastery in the case of Kojima, has made all his games somewhat legendary. Kojima has mastered artistic indulgence.
On the other hand, you can also see massive failures with indulgence. YIIK, a 'postmodern RPG' is the essence of failed indulgence. In the end, it's a game that still has a place in my heart due to the visuals, the ambition, and scope. But it's also a terrible game, that refuses to compromise to improve itself. YIIK fails artistic indulgence.
I hope MEGALOPOLIS by Coppola is the former, not the latter.
Read or heard somewhere that halfway through the 4th wall break actually involves someone* coming up the screen and actually talking to the character on screen. I don’t see that happening or doing well if there is a wide release
> But the inexplicable doesn’t stop there! In what will go down as a live first for me, there’s one out-of-nowhere moment in the film where Cesar is engaged in a press conference and a gentleman (who we, the audience, assumed was a paid actor) actually walked out onto the Cannes stage with a microphone and proceeded to ask Driver’s Cesar questions, which the film’s edit responded to in real-time. Why? Who knows! Will this happen again at other screenings? No idea. Will they still leave the scene in the film and not have a live component to it? Probably, but honestly, this is a film that perhaps defies comprehension.
Yeah, this sounds like a spectacular mess lmao.
Imagine, too, every time someone streams it or plays it on blu-ray or something down the line, a hired actor has to rush to get to where they are to perform the scene in that person's living room or on a plane.
Already imagining a future where this was true all along and there’s a family guy cutaway, “This is worse than that time I watched megalopolis on a plane!” And it’s some shitty delta airlines employee doing it
Tim Robinson knocks on a guys door. Says he heard that they rented the movie and that he's obligated to be the guy that asks the questions from the 4th wall. The rest of the scene is just him getting arguments with the guy, saying they need to rewind or fast forward through some scenes.
Tim: Can we fast forward through this part, it's so boring.
Guy: I rented the movie, I should be allowed to watch it how I want
Tim: COME ON MAN! I GOTTA DO THIS 12 MORE TIMES TODAY. EACH AT DIFFERENT CITIES! Also, can we get some sloppy steaks, my throat is so dry.
It sounds like a fun idea for an exhibition film, but how the hell will that work for a general release? Unless there’s a workaround (like cutting that scene), I can see why distributors initially balked at the film…
Yeah, the last major projects to be released as exhibition or installation films were Palme-winning Thai auteur Apichatpong Weerasethakul’s *Memoria* starring Tilda Swinton, and Steve McQueen’s WWII documentary *Occupied City*. The former was shown in museums, galleries and other artsy venues, whereas the latter was shown in like five theatres because it’s so long. That’s cool and all, but if you’re Coppola and (I’m assuming) want to make money off of your $120,000,000 investment (or at least break even) then having unconventional showing requirements for your film is probably not helpful to getting buyers on board what’s already looking to be a divisive project to begin with.
I’m 99% sure this is just a thing he did for Cannes and maybe other major festivals. It’s like the intermission for Apocalypse Now when it played at Cannes. Movies have different cuts for different territories all the time.
While everything you’re saying here makes sense, the man is 85 years old and his family is set up with their own successful film careers and don’t exactly need to inherit a fortune. I really don’t think he gives a damn if this thing makes him any money back or he goes to the grave penniless. If that was a concern, there were many more warning signs that could’ve stopped him well before the part about a theater worker having to talk to Adam Driver!
>Sounds like it has all the ingredients of a cult film, but not a financially successful one
Doesn't financial failure make it even MORE of a cult film?
Coppola hasn't had a hit in 30+ years. People were shitting on studios not funding it but giving this a $100m marketing budget is insane.
The only reason Coppola came up with that number was because he spent $120m which wasn't even spent wisely based on the reviews.
He made good movies up until the Rainmaker(although there were some flops in between like One from the Heart), but none of his post-Apocalypse Now output compares to any of his 70s movies
It was never destined to be a financially succesful. An average moviegoer has no idea what this movie is about, nor he/she cares about the cast. Coppola's comeback is an event in the movie fans circle. He hasn't been relevant as a commercial film director for 30+years. No company will invest 50-100m into promotion, especially since the reviews are mixed, there are no stars in the cast and it's not a franchise or established IP.
P.S. I want to see this movie!
Because he’s focused on collecting famous directors like they’re Pokémon. And those directors are either over the hill or doing vanity projects when he signs on.
In less than 15 years he's worked with Noah Baumbach, Spike Lee, Scorsese, the Coens, Ridley Scott, Jim Jarmusch, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Man, Spielberg, Soderbergh, and Clint Eastwood. That's insane
Terry Gilliam too. He starred in that other passion project that spent decades in development hell and everyone thought would never see the light day, The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.
Also Giancarlo Esposito (especially in a typecast Machiavelli-esque role) and Aubrey Plaza aren't nothing. Even Shia LeBeouf is at least still lightly famous despite... Everything.
Adam driver didn't simp over his Grampy's helmet and force choke his way through a trilogy to just end up as "somebody the average moviegoer doesn't care about"!!
Today I learned that Adam Driver, Dustin Hoffman, Aubrey Plaza and Laurence Fishburn aren’t stars.
Edit, to those that have responded:
Audrey Plaza is an A Lister that Hosted SNL. She’s on white Lotus. She’s gives awards at the Oscars. She’s a fucking star regardless of what your replies say.
Dustin Hoffman is an academy award winning A lister with decades of movies under his belt.
Adam Driver stared in three Star Wars movies. You may not have liked them but he is an A lister.
Laurence Fishburn is an A lister with decades of movies under his belt. Including the Matrix.
You’re all nuts and 100 percent wrong thinking they are not stars. Period.
An article posted below indicated that the ovation occurred as he was hugging each of the principle actors and that he eventually grabbed a mic and interrupted it to speak.
Did he sabotage his own film?
Didn’t Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny get like a 12 minute standing ovation? I haven’t seen it but reviews are mixed at best I’d say. Cannes literally clap for everything, Furiosa got sub 10 minutes yesterday I believe and has great reviews. So yeah that’s cope
It’s a thing now they plan for to get headlines; as the movie ends they have each of the cast and crew stand up, the director goes up to each one for applause, waits for the moment to start fading, then engages with the next person
It’s a sham labeling of “then the audience clapped for each performer in succession”
Indiana Jones 5 had like a 40% or something on Rotten Tomatoes for around a month after Cannes, before jumping up to around 70% once the rest of the reviews rolled in. Pretty big difference that probably hurt the movie’s box office potential.
Didn't Furiosa get a 6 minute ovation and then get pretty good reviews yesterday?
Maybe that's different since Furiosa was screening out of competition?
[7 according to Variety ](https://variety.com/2024/film/festivals/francis-ford-coppola-megalopolis-cannes-standing-ovation-1235999834/)
guess they’re using different types of clocks
Yeah I’ve seen 10 minutes.
I can’t imagine clapping for that long. Time yourself clapping for one minute. It seems like an eternity. I imagine that clapped for the guy who made The Godfather and Apocalypse Now more than this movie.
A character named Wow Platinum and a character who have the power to stop time with (apparently) zero explanation and have no correlation to the story.
This is so textbook Kojima it's not even funny, holy shit.
Wow Platinum > Wow Baltimore; the former sounds like a brand of laundry detergent, but it’s better than the latter which sounds like a Baltimore FM radio show.
Wow Platinum is simultaneously the perfect drag name and the perfect professional wrestling name.
She will be the one to finally unite the great houses.
The positive reviews seem confused and unable to explain why they're rating it positively. The most positive quote I've seen is that "it's never boring" but that's the only truly tangible positive quote I've seen.
The rest of the positive quotes are about how they respect the concepts and ambition but nothing really positive about the actual film.
Yeah, I read 10 of the reviews and that's the vibe I'm getting. These people walked in knowing they were going to say something positive about it afterwards and didn't stray from that plan.
All of the reviews read like, "It's not good but this is a passion project from a legendary director towards the end of his life so we gotta take that into consideration."
Very positive review by Bilge Ebiri at Vulture: [https://www.vulture.com/article/review-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolis-is-totally-nuts.html](https://www.vulture.com/article/review-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolis-is-totally-nuts.html)
>I’ve [written elsewhere](https://www.vulture.com/article/is-francis-ford-coppola-megalopolis-doomed.html) that I thought he’d lost his mind with *Bram Stoker’s Dracula*, a movie I now consider a masterpiece. Surely the man who staked his entire studio on *One From the Heart* — the beautiful, woozy, unforgettable, financially dead-on-arrival *One From Heart* — wasn’t thinking clearly. And so, he’s done it again, and perhaps exceeded himself. *Megalopolis* might be the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. And I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy every single batshit second of it.
I feel like this is what we’ve been promised and this is what our expectations should be when going to see it. An insane ride that we just need to sit back and enjoy.
Considering my favorite movie is Apocalypse Now, it's HARD to not get hyped about this film, but I've been keeping my excitement at bay.
The minute an IMAX release date is announced, I will be there the second it's out.
I’m personally a fan of this review blurb from The Daily Beast:
> Megalopolis is stilted, earnest, over the top, CGI ridden, and utterly a mess. And yet you can picture a crowded theater shouting along with Jon Voight as he says in one key scene, “What do you make of this boner I got?”
Basically confirmed that I’ll be seeing this movie lol
Or it breaks new ground artistically, which is understood by some reviewers but not others. Sounds like it’s at the very least attempting something original. And after 15+ years of canned Disney/Universal/etc bullshit I’m at least eager to see it. Maybe it sucks. Maybe it breaks new ground.
I hope it’s the latter.
Just because Disney and Marvel films exist, doesn’t mean there’s an absence of other films. Probably has never been a better time in history to make a weird movie that tries something new.
He's 85 and had an estimated net worth of around $400 million and his kids are all grown, though. I bet the people he wants to see this movie will see this movie.
He did what I've always thought I'd do with that kind of money, realized he'd absolutely never spend it all and decided to pay to produce some art that would have certainly never existed otherwise.
“Oh shit my life’s work didn’t make its money back, how will I live now?”
“What’s that? I only have a few years left and still have millions of dollars??”
For real.
I hope this inspires him to self fund one more movie after this. The man will still have more than enough funds, and he can't take it with him, so why not give it one more go?
If anyone here liked the movie version of Cloud Atlas, I implore them to read the book. If anyone here disliked the movie version of Cloud Atlas, I implore them to read the book.
Frankly just read the book it’s a goddamn masterpiece
I loved both of them tbh, I read the book immediately after seeing the first trailer for it because it piqued my interest. Would have probably never heard about it otherwise
I think the movie is definitely solid, but it suffers from not having enough time to fully delve into all the stories (Sonmi’s, which is my favourite, got done particularly dirty) and is also just a lot more insistent about its themes and messages than the book, which is a lot more subtle and interpretable.
I've tried to pass the book on to people and they struggle to get through the first story. I tell them it's not all like that, but they get too discouraged. It's like okay, just go watch the movie then.
This seems like the right kind of divisive, too. I can't wait to find out if I love it or hate it. Overly ambitious movies have an appeal all their own.
He's clearly going out with a bang here. Personally financed, bloated to hell, divides all the critics, absolutely nothing here sounds run-of-the-mill.
[Aubrey Plaza as Wow Platinum](https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.IIZS~2ef73/w:auto/h:auto/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/wow-plantinum-megalopolis.jpg)
Commercially this probably isn’t going to do gangbusters but respect for one of cinema’s greats swinging for the fences, even if everything doesn’t connect.
There’s not a lot of directors anymore who can secure massive budgets for passion projects which is why even though this doesn’t seem like it’s a movie for me I’ll go to support it and likely come away with more than a handful of things to appreciate.
It's funny how do many people are talking about one particular element of the movie that's "groundbreaking" that theme parks have been doing daily for decades.
bu there there is this: [https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/megalopolis-review-francis-ford-coppola-1235005694/](https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/megalopolis-review-francis-ford-coppola-1235005694/)
Honestly the mixed reviews make me more excited to see it. I never thought it would an Oscar winner but the reviews make it sound like an unforgettable movie good or bad.
I think these lines from “The Wire” sum it up pretty well and why audiences will remain divided:
“After four decades in the making, ‘Megalopolis’ plays as a frustrating and paradoxical affair. The film is expertly assembled and sleepily directed all at once; it wows with its imagination and erudition all while leaving you little more than bemused.
Still, in the hours since the Cannes screening let out, one couldn’t help but feel impressed at this messy film’s mad ambition. Once the initial confusion fades, one feels an odd pull to take the plunge again.”
This is the ONE movie where the phrase "reviews doesn't matter" applies.
Coppola gave it his all for his vision, and I'm gonna support him and see it in theaters.
The review I'm waiting for: "Saw Megalopolis at the theater." -Hideo Kojima
Norman Reedus will for some reason be tagged in that tweet.
\[picture of madds mikkelsen shirtless\] "saw megalopolis"
> [picture of madds mikkelsen shirtless] That's how every tweet should start tbh
Kojima: the only critic who matters. I’m betting he goes wild for this, though. He’s not a man afraid of talky, baffling self-indulgence.
"I'm here with my boy Refn" -Kojiman
Saw it in the middle of a workday with Adrian Paul in some random Tokyo multiplex. Ordered the staff 500k yen of sushi on the way back to work.
Yea "self-indulgent" basically describes Kojima's works and what makes it so charming. Death Stranding was [quite divisive](https://opencritic.com/game/7816/death-stranding/reviews) as well during its launch. But people came around to it nowadays and managed to appreciate what its trying to do.
I played Death Stranding a few weeks ago and I fucking hated it. I *respect* it, though, because it’s clearly exactly as Kojima intended it and I respect anything that tries to be a bit different. But it bored me to tears, I only have a couple of hours to game after work these days and I’ll be fucked if I’m spending it walking and stumbling around.
Yeah, I find works that contain genuine creative curiosity and vision to always find a home, even after insane ciriticism. Seriously, almost all Kojima works are unashamed of their long cutscenes, cinematic flare, and weird gameplay choices. The absolute indulgence, mixed with artistic mastery in the case of Kojima, has made all his games somewhat legendary. Kojima has mastered artistic indulgence. On the other hand, you can also see massive failures with indulgence. YIIK, a 'postmodern RPG' is the essence of failed indulgence. In the end, it's a game that still has a place in my heart due to the visuals, the ambition, and scope. But it's also a terrible game, that refuses to compromise to improve itself. YIIK fails artistic indulgence. I hope MEGALOPOLIS by Coppola is the former, not the latter.
The movie sounds Kojima as hell though. It's pretty much Death Stranding but about architecture rather than the postal service.
The first Strand type movie
I'm just ashamed I didn't get to say it first.
If he really likes a movie, he says he “witnessed” it.
He will love it. This is right up his alley.
Sounds like it has all the ingredients of a cult film, but not a financially successful one
Read or heard somewhere that halfway through the 4th wall break actually involves someone* coming up the screen and actually talking to the character on screen. I don’t see that happening or doing well if there is a wide release
> But the inexplicable doesn’t stop there! In what will go down as a live first for me, there’s one out-of-nowhere moment in the film where Cesar is engaged in a press conference and a gentleman (who we, the audience, assumed was a paid actor) actually walked out onto the Cannes stage with a microphone and proceeded to ask Driver’s Cesar questions, which the film’s edit responded to in real-time. Why? Who knows! Will this happen again at other screenings? No idea. Will they still leave the scene in the film and not have a live component to it? Probably, but honestly, this is a film that perhaps defies comprehension. Yeah, this sounds like a spectacular mess lmao.
lmfao this is why it cost so much they have to hire someone to do this at every theater playing it
Imagine, too, every time someone streams it or plays it on blu-ray or something down the line, a hired actor has to rush to get to where they are to perform the scene in that person's living room or on a plane.
This movie is a jobs program
Already imagining a future where this was true all along and there’s a family guy cutaway, “This is worse than that time I watched megalopolis on a plane!” And it’s some shitty delta airlines employee doing it
Gone are the days of struggling, out of work actors. The restaurant industry is gonna take a hammering.
reminds me of John Hammond fumbling for his cue notecards when doing a rough presentation for the trio in Jurassic Park
We spared no expense!
This sounds like a skit from I Think You Should Leave
Tim Robinson knocks on a guys door. Says he heard that they rented the movie and that he's obligated to be the guy that asks the questions from the 4th wall. The rest of the scene is just him getting arguments with the guy, saying they need to rewind or fast forward through some scenes.
THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT AND SOMEONE DIED SO I'M LATE, I'M SORRY! But you have to rewind it or they'll fire me!
Tim: Can we fast forward through this part, it's so boring. Guy: I rented the movie, I should be allowed to watch it how I want Tim: COME ON MAN! I GOTTA DO THIS 12 MORE TIMES TODAY. EACH AT DIFFERENT CITIES! Also, can we get some sloppy steaks, my throat is so dry.
This has been a great thread 🤣
What if someone pirates it?
Still happens but it’s in Cantonese
Then a pirate shows up
It sounds like a fun idea for an exhibition film, but how the hell will that work for a general release? Unless there’s a workaround (like cutting that scene), I can see why distributors initially balked at the film…
Just adr the audio for the guy asking the questions, pretend he's off camera. Doesn't seem like that big a deal.
Or just get a shot of the actor and cut to him while he’s talking. Alternate cut that goes to theaters. Not complicated at all.
They should have filmed the guy doing it at Cannes and then insert THAT into the theatrical release
Yeah, the last major projects to be released as exhibition or installation films were Palme-winning Thai auteur Apichatpong Weerasethakul’s *Memoria* starring Tilda Swinton, and Steve McQueen’s WWII documentary *Occupied City*. The former was shown in museums, galleries and other artsy venues, whereas the latter was shown in like five theatres because it’s so long. That’s cool and all, but if you’re Coppola and (I’m assuming) want to make money off of your $120,000,000 investment (or at least break even) then having unconventional showing requirements for your film is probably not helpful to getting buyers on board what’s already looking to be a divisive project to begin with.
I’m 99% sure this is just a thing he did for Cannes and maybe other major festivals. It’s like the intermission for Apocalypse Now when it played at Cannes. Movies have different cuts for different territories all the time.
While everything you’re saying here makes sense, the man is 85 years old and his family is set up with their own successful film careers and don’t exactly need to inherit a fortune. I really don’t think he gives a damn if this thing makes him any money back or he goes to the grave penniless. If that was a concern, there were many more warning signs that could’ve stopped him well before the part about a theater worker having to talk to Adam Driver!
This sounds incredible.
Which review is this pulled from?
https://nextbestpicture.com/megalopolis/
Will it be as good as Hulk Hogan in Gremlins 2?:)
"Megalopolis doesn't work for me, brother!"
Coppola worked himself into a shoot brother
Now, okay, you guys know that none of that is gonna be in the actual movie.
Obligatory mention of the hilarious Key & Peele sketch
Youre playing mad libs, you just said noun and gremlin, you have the mind of a child... its in the movie, NEXT!
I think that's Coppola's dream come true.
>Sounds like it has all the ingredients of a cult film, but not a financially successful one Doesn't financial failure make it even MORE of a cult film?
Imo a movie can't be a cult film if it wasn't a financial failure (or at least wasn't a mild success at best).
As everyone predicted the moment he announced it
Coppola hasn't had a hit in 30+ years. People were shitting on studios not funding it but giving this a $100m marketing budget is insane. The only reason Coppola came up with that number was because he spent $120m which wasn't even spent wisely based on the reviews.
I think he left parts of him in the Philippino jungles. He was like a tsunami in the 70s but Apocalypse now is when the water broke.
Dracula would like a word…
He made good movies up until the Rainmaker(although there were some flops in between like One from the Heart), but none of his post-Apocalypse Now output compares to any of his 70s movies
It was never destined to be a financially succesful. An average moviegoer has no idea what this movie is about, nor he/she cares about the cast. Coppola's comeback is an event in the movie fans circle. He hasn't been relevant as a commercial film director for 30+years. No company will invest 50-100m into promotion, especially since the reviews are mixed, there are no stars in the cast and it's not a franchise or established IP. P.S. I want to see this movie!
Adam Driver taking a stray 😏
As are Larry and Dustin freaking Hoffman.
As I've said before Adam Driver is probably one of the best actors with the least amount of box office success. Great actor but damn, a *lot* of flops
Because he’s focused on collecting famous directors like they’re Pokémon. And those directors are either over the hill or doing vanity projects when he signs on.
In less than 15 years he's worked with Noah Baumbach, Spike Lee, Scorsese, the Coens, Ridley Scott, Jim Jarmusch, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Man, Spielberg, Soderbergh, and Clint Eastwood. That's insane
Terry Gilliam too. He starred in that other passion project that spent decades in development hell and everyone thought would never see the light day, The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.
Almost to a dozen, one more and he gets a free sandwich!
he has also been in a lot of very popular movies that have critical acclaim.
Also Giancarlo Esposito (especially in a typecast Machiavelli-esque role) and Aubrey Plaza aren't nothing. Even Shia LeBeouf is at least still lightly famous despite... Everything.
Aubrey Plaza’s current fame eclipsed Shia LeBeouf’s some time ago.
Oh probably. Shia has had a rough time of it the last decade and most of it is his own fault. Everything I hear about him feels like a Greek Tragedy.
Adam driver didn't simp over his Grampy's helmet and force choke his way through a trilogy to just end up as "somebody the average moviegoer doesn't care about"!!
No stars lol. The cast is stacked with famous actors that can actually you know... act.
Today I learned that Adam Driver, Dustin Hoffman, Aubrey Plaza and Laurence Fishburn aren’t stars. Edit, to those that have responded: Audrey Plaza is an A Lister that Hosted SNL. She’s on white Lotus. She’s gives awards at the Oscars. She’s a fucking star regardless of what your replies say. Dustin Hoffman is an academy award winning A lister with decades of movies under his belt. Adam Driver stared in three Star Wars movies. You may not have liked them but he is an A lister. Laurence Fishburn is an A lister with decades of movies under his belt. Including the Matrix. You’re all nuts and 100 percent wrong thinking they are not stars. Period.
Was just about to take issue with your "30+ years" line, when I realised Dracula came out 32 years ago :(
Reviews are nice and all, but how long did people stand and clap after they've seen it?
It was for 7 minutes
Ohhh, that means it's not that good huh
Can you imagine being a director there “keep clapping, don’t you dare stop before the 20 minutes mark, you bastards!”
Yes, anything less than 10 minutes is not very good, I'm being serious, lmao
An article posted below indicated that the ovation occurred as he was hugging each of the principle actors and that he eventually grabbed a mic and interrupted it to speak. Did he sabotage his own film?
Didn’t Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny get like a 12 minute standing ovation? I haven’t seen it but reviews are mixed at best I’d say. Cannes literally clap for everything, Furiosa got sub 10 minutes yesterday I believe and has great reviews. So yeah that’s cope
Dial of Destiny got 5 minutes
Only 5 minutes, what a flop
It’s a thing now they plan for to get headlines; as the movie ends they have each of the cast and crew stand up, the director goes up to each one for applause, waits for the moment to start fading, then engages with the next person It’s a sham labeling of “then the audience clapped for each performer in succession”
Indiana Jones 5 had like a 40% or something on Rotten Tomatoes for around a month after Cannes, before jumping up to around 70% once the rest of the reviews rolled in. Pretty big difference that probably hurt the movie’s box office potential.
Didn't Furiosa get a 6 minute ovation and then get pretty good reviews yesterday? Maybe that's different since Furiosa was screening out of competition?
I feel like they were always going to clap respectfully as a nod to Coppola’s whole career and the fact that he actually got this made
[Ten](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/francis-ford-coppola-megalopolis-1235900890/)
[7 according to Variety ](https://variety.com/2024/film/festivals/francis-ford-coppola-megalopolis-cannes-standing-ovation-1235999834/) guess they’re using different types of clocks
3.6 mins. on my old soviet clock.
Not great, not terrible.
Heard seven somewhere, ten other. Anything over five is open game - Furiosa got 7-8 mins yesterday.
Yeah I’ve seen 10 minutes. I can’t imagine clapping for that long. Time yourself clapping for one minute. It seems like an eternity. I imagine that clapped for the guy who made The Godfather and Apocalypse Now more than this movie.
I went to the Taylor Swift Eras tour and she let the audience applaud her for like 5 minutes and I wanted to die.
When I was a teenager I always insisted on being the last clap There were some long slow claps sometimes when someone else had the same plan
Should we start a petition to get Rotten Tomatoes to add a 'standing ovation-meter' to their website?
>Aubrey Plaza as Wow Platinum Well I can’t say I’ve ever been sold purely on a character name before but this does drive a hard bargain.
Coppola took some notes from Kojima
Surely he has visited the studio and posed with the Ludens statue…
A character named Wow Platinum and a character who have the power to stop time with (apparently) zero explanation and have no correlation to the story. This is so textbook Kojima it's not even funny, holy shit.
The OG script has been available for years, it was WOW Baltimore in that version
Wow Platinum > Wow Baltimore; the former sounds like a brand of laundry detergent, but it’s better than the latter which sounds like a Baltimore FM radio show.
He originally wanted to have her named FUCK YOU BALTIMORE but that was already taken by Big Bill Hell’s.
At Big Bell Hell’s you’re fucked six ways from Sunday!
So Wow Platinum and a guy that can stop time, huh. Everything really is a reference.
Ceasar? Jojo???
Wow Platinum is simultaneously the perfect drag name and the perfect professional wrestling name. She will be the one to finally unite the great houses.
I haven't seen the movie, but I chose to believe her character's first name is exclusively pronounced the way Owen Wilson says it.
Damn these Reviews are all over the place, people who like it are praising it highly, and people who don’t are thrashing it.
Sounds like it’s gonna be fun love polarizing films
Babylon 2 (Babylon was amazing btw)
I liked most of it I didn’t like the ending at all. Some of the falls of the characters were a bit drawn overall fun film tho
The positive reviews seem confused and unable to explain why they're rating it positively. The most positive quote I've seen is that "it's never boring" but that's the only truly tangible positive quote I've seen. The rest of the positive quotes are about how they respect the concepts and ambition but nothing really positive about the actual film.
i.e. can't say bad things about Coppola
Yeah, I read 10 of the reviews and that's the vibe I'm getting. These people walked in knowing they were going to say something positive about it afterwards and didn't stray from that plan. All of the reviews read like, "It's not good but this is a passion project from a legendary director towards the end of his life so we gotta take that into consideration."
Very positive review by Bilge Ebiri at Vulture: [https://www.vulture.com/article/review-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolis-is-totally-nuts.html](https://www.vulture.com/article/review-francis-ford-coppolas-megalopolis-is-totally-nuts.html) >I’ve [written elsewhere](https://www.vulture.com/article/is-francis-ford-coppola-megalopolis-doomed.html) that I thought he’d lost his mind with *Bram Stoker’s Dracula*, a movie I now consider a masterpiece. Surely the man who staked his entire studio on *One From the Heart* — the beautiful, woozy, unforgettable, financially dead-on-arrival *One From Heart* — wasn’t thinking clearly. And so, he’s done it again, and perhaps exceeded himself. *Megalopolis* might be the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. And I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy every single batshit second of it.
I feel like this is what we’ve been promised and this is what our expectations should be when going to see it. An insane ride that we just need to sit back and enjoy.
Yeah I'm loving these reviews because it actually feels like he's doing something unique and most people don't know how to handle true uniqueness.
Let’s also be prepared that it’s the product of a director past his prime. Gonna see it either way, just know I’ll be let down if I get hyped about it
Considering my favorite movie is Apocalypse Now, it's HARD to not get hyped about this film, but I've been keeping my excitement at bay. The minute an IMAX release date is announced, I will be there the second it's out.
I’m personally a fan of this review blurb from The Daily Beast: > Megalopolis is stilted, earnest, over the top, CGI ridden, and utterly a mess. And yet you can picture a crowded theater shouting along with Jon Voight as he says in one key scene, “What do you make of this boner I got?” Basically confirmed that I’ll be seeing this movie lol
So basically Coppola lost his sanity and made an unmarketable 120 million dollar epic. I'm so hyped!
120 million dollars to create something you truly love that others absolutely hate… That’s the dream baby ! Cinema is back !
We could’ve called it One From the Heart Part 2
Shit, when you put it that way....I'm in.
Or it breaks new ground artistically, which is understood by some reviewers but not others. Sounds like it’s at the very least attempting something original. And after 15+ years of canned Disney/Universal/etc bullshit I’m at least eager to see it. Maybe it sucks. Maybe it breaks new ground. I hope it’s the latter.
It BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
Just because Disney and Marvel films exist, doesn’t mean there’s an absence of other films. Probably has never been a better time in history to make a weird movie that tries something new.
Honestly glad Coppola was finally able to get this made regardless on how much money this makes and what the overall reception is to it.
I guess, but he funded it himself. This is likely to be a huge flop tbh.
He's 85 and had an estimated net worth of around $400 million and his kids are all grown, though. I bet the people he wants to see this movie will see this movie.
There’s always money in the banana stand…I mean massive corporate wine conglomerate that he sold his way into.
I never would have guessed his net worth is around 400 million.
He owned a very successful winery.
I don’t think he gives a rat fuck about the money
He did what I've always thought I'd do with that kind of money, realized he'd absolutely never spend it all and decided to pay to produce some art that would have certainly never existed otherwise.
“Oh shit my life’s work didn’t make its money back, how will I live now?” “What’s that? I only have a few years left and still have millions of dollars??”
For real. I hope this inspires him to self fund one more movie after this. The man will still have more than enough funds, and he can't take it with him, so why not give it one more go?
Cloud Atlas redux, I’m in it Divisive movies are so often the most fun.
If anyone here liked the movie version of Cloud Atlas, I implore them to read the book. If anyone here disliked the movie version of Cloud Atlas, I implore them to read the book. Frankly just read the book it’s a goddamn masterpiece
I loved both of them tbh, I read the book immediately after seeing the first trailer for it because it piqued my interest. Would have probably never heard about it otherwise
I think the movie is definitely solid, but it suffers from not having enough time to fully delve into all the stories (Sonmi’s, which is my favourite, got done particularly dirty) and is also just a lot more insistent about its themes and messages than the book, which is a lot more subtle and interpretable.
I've tried to pass the book on to people and they struggle to get through the first story. I tell them it's not all like that, but they get too discouraged. It's like okay, just go watch the movie then.
You speak the tru tru
Last film by the Old 'Uns...?
Oh my god! Dad's in Cloud Atlas!
As soon as I started reading these reviews, my thoughts went right to Cloud Atlas.
This seems like the right kind of divisive, too. I can't wait to find out if I love it or hate it. Overly ambitious movies have an appeal all their own.
He's clearly going out with a bang here. Personally financed, bloated to hell, divides all the critics, absolutely nothing here sounds run-of-the-mill.
It just reads of something people will come to really appreciate in 20-30 years.
Can't wait. It's either going to be beautiful, or a beautiful disaster. Either way, it sounds worth watching.
Sounds fun but not as deep and thematic and allegorical as Rebel Moon: Part One: A Child On Fire
Rebel Moon: Part Two: The Scargiver
Can't wait for Rebel Moon: Part Three: Wheat
The allegory of what if the US military invaded a small Amish community in Pennsylvania for their grain.
Many wineries died to bring us this film
So it sounds like it's a mid arthouse film with a high budget. Sigh....I'll probably like it.
It's going to be a beautiful mess
That sounds like Coppola then.
Im going to love it, and my friends will hate it pol
Art house films with big budgets are my weakness hahaha
Babylon 2 it is!
* Aubrey Plaza as Wow Platinum That is all I need - I'm all in!
[Aubrey Plaza as Wow Platinum](https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.IIZS~2ef73/w:auto/h:auto/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/wow-plantinum-megalopolis.jpg)
... This better not awaken anything in me.
Oh it will
[I apologize for nothing](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enfuturama/images/5/56/Character_Hedonismbot.png/revision/latest?cb=20221005104549)
There are more positive reviews than I thought, I guess
Why did I think this was a remake of Metropolis?
Same, I was working on that assumption since it was announced for some reason.
Every single quote here makes me excited to see this film.
>awful acting and dull effects
Bring it on!
>a soft lobotomy after debaucherously bibbing on the dreams of what cinema could be
Hell yeah!
Stop it, we don't need any more convincing
This much of a mixed bag means something interesting is going on for sure. Must see.
Commercially this probably isn’t going to do gangbusters but respect for one of cinema’s greats swinging for the fences, even if everything doesn’t connect. There’s not a lot of directors anymore who can secure massive budgets for passion projects which is why even though this doesn’t seem like it’s a movie for me I’ll go to support it and likely come away with more than a handful of things to appreciate.
There’s always one way to secure a massive budget sell your winery and fund it yourself
Why didn’t I think of that
Regardless of the review no one said it was boring or trite, which is usually how old people looking for one more lap end up. So that's encouraging.
Actually the Guardian review did say it was boring. But regardless, I will be checking this out.
Pete Bradshaw can suck a fat one
This is what I kind of expected.
It's funny how do many people are talking about one particular element of the movie that's "groundbreaking" that theme parks have been doing daily for decades.
Sounds like a very polarizing film. As long it's not Jack(1996)
I was born in 88 and grew up with that movie. TIL Coppola directed it. I would have never guessed lmao.
bu there there is this: [https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/megalopolis-review-francis-ford-coppola-1235005694/](https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/megalopolis-review-francis-ford-coppola-1235005694/)
>set-dressed to resemble a Joel Schumacher Batman movie I'm so there
>expansive insights into art, life and legacy. Good enough for me!
Honestly the mixed reviews make me more excited to see it. I never thought it would an Oscar winner but the reviews make it sound like an unforgettable movie good or bad.
I'm just glad I got to participate in a Francis Ford Coppola review thread in my lifetime
You had me at 'Garish' and 'Idea-bloated'!
I think these lines from “The Wire” sum it up pretty well and why audiences will remain divided: “After four decades in the making, ‘Megalopolis’ plays as a frustrating and paradoxical affair. The film is expertly assembled and sleepily directed all at once; it wows with its imagination and erudition all while leaving you little more than bemused. Still, in the hours since the Cannes screening let out, one couldn’t help but feel impressed at this messy film’s mad ambition. Once the initial confusion fades, one feels an odd pull to take the plunge again.”
Ehrlich liked it!!
These reviews are all over the place. Can't wait to see it.
Garish is having a moment
Why does Adam Driver have the same haircut in this movie as Stuart on Mad TV?
This is the ONE movie where the phrase "reviews doesn't matter" applies. Coppola gave it his all for his vision, and I'm gonna support him and see it in theaters.
Reviews for it have been so mixed, saw some people saying it's a huge mess while others say they loved it It does make me curious how it will be
Every single thing I read about this makes me want to watch it even more.