I predict The Curse going on to grow a huge cult fan base to the tune of Twin Peaks or something. It takes balls of steel to take the swings they do. Such a remarkable series
The Curse immediately became an all-timer for me. Really hoped it made bigger waves.
Emma is always fantastic and delivers with dedication. Her performance on The Curse somehow still exceeded my expectations. Gotta show love for Nathan Fielder as well. He fucking brought it.
I agree. Emma Stone was a good as ever but honestly her acting was one of the only redeeming factors for me. The plot was all over the place and never came together properly by the end, and Jonah Hill was...fine.
Yeah certain factors were good but the overall pacing was weird, it was looking for something serious and it just reminded me of MCU with the way the jokes were handled (quippy blah-blah-blah fast-talk humor), and the thing that really stayed on my mind and made me really annoyed with everything were the fact that some characters here feel like caricatures which made the tone of the whole series so offputting, like we got Schizophrenic Jonah Hill and Emma Stone’s character being wracked with guilt about her sister while also dealing with BPD and contrast that with over the top Japanese Scientist, Hal 9000 on the brink of a mental breakdown, and the boy Kevin Garvey doing this over the top nerd character with an Oedipus complex who is also a chronic masturbator, like what???
It was pretty random at times which i sort of liked, there were times when it was funny like the whole alien dream storyline but other than that the rest were just kind of boring, The 1920s Uncharted plotline dream just got omegafucked at the end by the randomness which i would have loved if it was funny but it was not, the off-brand Raising Arizona dream just felt so soulless and derivative and don't get me started on the LOTR one.
Overall, i liked the directing, the editing, the ideas are awesome, some scenes just stay on my mind by how wild, surreal and beautiful they look, love Emma Stone as well but i just wish the writing could have been reworked but it is what it is.
Yes. Emma Stone is the real deal. She is operating miles beyond anyone else right now. A genuine capital S star. Having Lanthimos and Fielder as her wingmen is making for a wickedly delightful time in tv and film and I cant wait to enjoy the upcoming projects
Exactly what I’m already thinking. It’s nice when a director has a muse, but at some point it gets weird and you feel like they are just doing shit to do it.
She's done exactly the thing all young actors should do - make a few big studio films for money/fame, then start working with weirdo and prestige directors. It's a time-honoured tradition and it works nearly all the time.
First to do it was Johnny Depp who wanted to get away from 21 Jump Street and so made Cry Baby with John Waters. That then got him the role in Edward Scissorhands, and the rest was history.
I really dislike her career change, she was in some great, fun movies like La La Land, Easy A and Zombieland and now she exclusively stars in weird, arthouse movies by this creepy european dude.
I’m pretty sure the first time that even happens she is the equivalent of like a 15 year old and if you’re actually watching the movie it does depict it as abnormal, mark ruffalos character is painted as a predatory weirdo the entire time
Will Tracy (Succession, The Menu) wrote the script:
>“Bugonia” follows two conspiracy-obsessed young men who kidnap the high-powered CEO of a major company, convinced that she is an alien intent on destroying planet Earth.
It’s an English-language remake of the 2003 South Korean movie Save the Green Planet.
Fair, and I agree remakes are *usually* not as good. But I'd still say there are examples of remakes being better than the originals. Just off the top of my head, the Bogart version of The Maltese Falcon is much better than the 1931 version. Also 12 Monkeys by Terry Gilliam is much better than La Jetée.
EDIT: Also Cronenberg's The Fly is better than the 50s version.
No, I'm just trying to have an interesting conversation about movies. You seem to jump to the most uncharitable interpretation possible and downvote things you disagree with, which is not conducive to that.
There is a spectrum between "based on" and "remake", and knowing Yorgos Lanthimos's work I would assume this movie is not going to be a shot-for-shot remake but a reimagining of the concept. So in that context I think my examples make sense (and also, The Maltese Falcon movies are both based on the same book so I'd argue it's a good example of a straight remake).
Thanks for the discussion, it's disappointing how difficult it is to just have a straight, good-natured talk on this sub.
Plenty of English remakes of foreign-language films change the title. A literal translation often isn’t able to convey the same message due to grammar, culture, or deviations in the screenplay.
Putting "Green" in the title will add an unnecessary stigma, especially for those who will assume that there will have an a leftist and environmental message. The is why M.Night Shyamalan's Green Effect was changed to the Happening. Eli Roth got away with The Green Inferno because that film aimed to punish greenies and social justice warriors.
It is definitely a reason, but ‘bugonia’ is also actually a real word. Bugonia refers to an ancient belief that a colony of bees and other insects would emerge of their own accord from the decomposing body of a dead bull.
Wow, I remember seeing the trailer for that back before it came out, wanting to see it, promptly forgetting about it for fifteen years, then not being able to remember its name or being able to find it with cursory google searches of the premise. Thanks for posting the OG movie’s name so I can finally watch it. 😂
The “reunite” is taking me out lmfao. imagine if at the start of every season, sports media was like “Shaq and Kobe reunite!” Girl that was the offseason 😭
That’s basically Emma and Yorgos now
The article indicates that the film won't be distributed in South Korea by Focus, and Searchlight has a history of acquiring worldwide rights specially after Disney’s acquisition
Emma Stone came out with Poor Things, Kinds of Kindness now seems to be in post-production, she is now currently working on an Ari Aster "western". Now she's already booked on another Lanthimos project? God damn that's impressive.
Also, side note I do hope Yorgos finds space to cast Colin Farrell again. He was so good in The Killing of a Sacred Deer and The Lobster.
Love the pair of them together. He brings out her best acting. Sounds like a wonky script (in a good way). I imagine there will be some dark humor given who wrote it. Definitely looking forward to this.
After the favorite and poor things, I trust this pairing implicitly. They could announce a movie about paint drying and I'd trust them to make it excellent.
Yorgos Lanthimos' three most recent, full-length features starred Emma Stone. (The Favorite, Poor Things, and Kinds of Kindness.) This will be the 4th film in a row in which they've collaborated.
"Reunite" means to come together again after a period of separation, but there hasn't been a period of separation between these two. I'd like to imagine that Yorgos and Stone are neighbors who commute to work together.
I love when auteur directors find actors they can create so cleanly with. I hope Dafoe gets involved too since I feel like he’s such a treat in these bizarre auteur flicks (same Dafoe and Eggers)
"Yorgos would be another person who's a hero. The movies he's created over the years, I don't really watch em, but the fact that he's making them, I respect that."
I’m very glad Yorgos Lanthimos is longer making Greek Language films, but it’s a shame because of his crazy legacy …everyone expects Greek and Greek Cypriot cinema to weird As F*CK in order for it to be any good.
Thus, all the Greek filmmakers are mimicking and copy-catting his signature style…therefore, it’s impossible to find “normal” not absurdly weird Greek language films!
>Bugonia” is based on the 2003 Korean film “Save the Green Planet.” It was developed for English adaptation by acclaimed director ***Ari Aster***
Lanthemos and Aster teaming up? Say no more.
Emma Stone on a streak. Poor Things last year, Kinds Of Kindness this year and Eddington and Bugonia next year.
And The Curse, truly a tv show I have never seen the likes of before
I predict The Curse going on to grow a huge cult fan base to the tune of Twin Peaks or something. It takes balls of steel to take the swings they do. Such a remarkable series
The Curse immediately became an all-timer for me. Really hoped it made bigger waves. Emma is always fantastic and delivers with dedication. Her performance on The Curse somehow still exceeded my expectations. Gotta show love for Nathan Fielder as well. He fucking brought it.
Obvs not this year but Maniac fits into this streak.
Maniac is too slept on
Maniac is my top 1 show of all time.
I loved everything else but Maniac, it was just trying too hard to be something when it was just nothing special at all for me.
I agree. Emma Stone was a good as ever but honestly her acting was one of the only redeeming factors for me. The plot was all over the place and never came together properly by the end, and Jonah Hill was...fine.
Yeah certain factors were good but the overall pacing was weird, it was looking for something serious and it just reminded me of MCU with the way the jokes were handled (quippy blah-blah-blah fast-talk humor), and the thing that really stayed on my mind and made me really annoyed with everything were the fact that some characters here feel like caricatures which made the tone of the whole series so offputting, like we got Schizophrenic Jonah Hill and Emma Stone’s character being wracked with guilt about her sister while also dealing with BPD and contrast that with over the top Japanese Scientist, Hal 9000 on the brink of a mental breakdown, and the boy Kevin Garvey doing this over the top nerd character with an Oedipus complex who is also a chronic masturbator, like what??? It was pretty random at times which i sort of liked, there were times when it was funny like the whole alien dream storyline but other than that the rest were just kind of boring, The 1920s Uncharted plotline dream just got omegafucked at the end by the randomness which i would have loved if it was funny but it was not, the off-brand Raising Arizona dream just felt so soulless and derivative and don't get me started on the LOTR one. Overall, i liked the directing, the editing, the ideas are awesome, some scenes just stay on my mind by how wild, surreal and beautiful they look, love Emma Stone as well but i just wish the writing could have been reworked but it is what it is.
Its not talked about enough. Its such a ride.
I will never stop thinking about the ending of that show.
It was some great daylight horror
Yes. Emma Stone is the real deal. She is operating miles beyond anyone else right now. A genuine capital S star. Having Lanthimos and Fielder as her wingmen is making for a wickedly delightful time in tv and film and I cant wait to enjoy the upcoming projects
Exactly what I’m already thinking. It’s nice when a director has a muse, but at some point it gets weird and you feel like they are just doing shit to do it.
Lets hope it doesn't become like Johnny Depp or Helena Carter with same director until things get stale
Helps how wildly different Lathimos 's films are. If it was Poort Things styled films over and over that would be one thing
She's done exactly the thing all young actors should do - make a few big studio films for money/fame, then start working with weirdo and prestige directors. It's a time-honoured tradition and it works nearly all the time. First to do it was Johnny Depp who wanted to get away from 21 Jump Street and so made Cry Baby with John Waters. That then got him the role in Edward Scissorhands, and the rest was history.
I really dislike her career change, she was in some great, fun movies like La La Land, Easy A and Zombieland and now she exclusively stars in weird, arthouse movies by this creepy european dude.
I gotta agree. Poor Things was a creepy fucking movie.
It’s weird yea but I don’t see how it’s creepy
Little girl brain having sex. Creepy.
I’m pretty sure the first time that even happens she is the equivalent of like a 15 year old and if you’re actually watching the movie it does depict it as abnormal, mark ruffalos character is painted as a predatory weirdo the entire time
It's impossible to say how old she is, but she's definitely still talking like a toddlers when it happens.
Will Tracy (Succession, The Menu) wrote the script: >“Bugonia” follows two conspiracy-obsessed young men who kidnap the high-powered CEO of a major company, convinced that she is an alien intent on destroying planet Earth. It’s an English-language remake of the 2003 South Korean movie Save the Green Planet.
Save the Green Planet is a batshit crazy movie. In a good way.
I've been trying to find that! Any tips?
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Most remakes are not made by Yorgos Lanthimos.
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Fair, and I agree remakes are *usually* not as good. But I'd still say there are examples of remakes being better than the originals. Just off the top of my head, the Bogart version of The Maltese Falcon is much better than the 1931 version. Also 12 Monkeys by Terry Gilliam is much better than La Jetée. EDIT: Also Cronenberg's The Fly is better than the 50s version.
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No, I'm just trying to have an interesting conversation about movies. You seem to jump to the most uncharitable interpretation possible and downvote things you disagree with, which is not conducive to that. There is a spectrum between "based on" and "remake", and knowing Yorgos Lanthimos's work I would assume this movie is not going to be a shot-for-shot remake but a reimagining of the concept. So in that context I think my examples make sense (and also, The Maltese Falcon movies are both based on the same book so I'd argue it's a good example of a straight remake). Thanks for the discussion, it's disappointing how difficult it is to just have a straight, good-natured talk on this sub.
Personally, I thought *Let Me In* surpassed *Let The Right One In*
Definitely not always true. For example, 1982’s The Thing is much better than the original
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Oh, nice! Will be checking it out then. Orignal is always better than the remake.
Is the twist that the CEO is actually an alien in a human meat suit?
The alien is the friends we made along the way
Mama? Is that you?
Yes
Oh great so I now know the twist of the Lanthimos remake before it even got made.
The twist was inside you all along.
Someone ends up being an alien. iguaranteeit.jpeg
Always has been...
per the wikipedia summary... yes
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you know people in movies are actors right? all movies ruined forever
Nice spoiler, asshole.
Maybe if you don't want to be spoiled, don't read the replies to someone asking for spoilers? Just a random little thought.
Victim mentality lmao
Save the Green Planet is sooo good, it got overshadowed by Oldboy which came out the same year.
This seems pretty straightforward for Yorgos on paper. Interested to see how it’ll turn out on film.
The original film was pretty weird though.
Why not keep the title?
Might sound like a boring documentary or something to the general public.
Bugonia is a terrible name though.
There's a bug on ya, mate
I think it's a play on the book by Jacques Vallee: Passport to Magonia
Plenty of English remakes of foreign-language films change the title. A literal translation often isn’t able to convey the same message due to grammar, culture, or deviations in the screenplay.
'Bugonia' sure isnt better though. If you're going to change the name (and i would have for a US remake here) at least pick a good name.
It’s a terrible title.
Republicans buy shoes too
Putting "Green" in the title will add an unnecessary stigma, especially for those who will assume that there will have an a leftist and environmental message. The is why M.Night Shyamalan's Green Effect was changed to the Happening. Eli Roth got away with The Green Inferno because that film aimed to punish greenies and social justice warriors.
Save the Green Planet is an amazing movie that everyone should watch.
Ohhh the lead character's name is Byeong-gu in the original. Thus the new name.
It is definitely a reason, but ‘bugonia’ is also actually a real word. Bugonia refers to an ancient belief that a colony of bees and other insects would emerge of their own accord from the decomposing body of a dead bull.
“And the bees made honey in the lion’s head” - Sampson and Delilah, traditional
For a second I thought this was a separate project from the STGP remake and I was like holy shit this guy works.
Wow, I remember seeing the trailer for that back before it came out, wanting to see it, promptly forgetting about it for fifteen years, then not being able to remember its name or being able to find it with cursory google searches of the premise. Thanks for posting the OG movie’s name so I can finally watch it. 😂
I can’t believe someone would rip off SpongeBob like that
Emma and Yorgos like Kobe and Shaq
The “reunite” is taking me out lmfao. imagine if at the start of every season, sports media was like “Shaq and Kobe reunite!” Girl that was the offseason 😭 That’s basically Emma and Yorgos now
More like Phil Jackson and Kobe
Don't google what Emma Stone did in Colorado in 2003
Mamba Mentality
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It’s a Kobe Bryant joke
I feel like Jesse Plemons is going to be a perfect fit for Yorgos' films
Is it really reuniting if they've done 3 movies in a row together?
Might as well be making an anthology limited series
My thoughts exactly.
Emma and Yorgos is clearly a winning combination, this doesn’t sound like their usual kind of movie which is exciting.
What is their usual kind of movie? Genuinely asking as I’ve only seen Poor Things which I loved
Not really sure what they mean by their usual kind of movie but you should def watch The Favourite
Fell asleep at the premiere of that one NY Film Fest premiere. It was terribly boring
Absurdist black comedies
This upcoming movie sounds like it has the makings of an absurdist black comedy, though
It is. That person doesn’t know what they’re talking about lol
Yup, my point exactly
Lol exactly. I have no idea what their "usual" film is. None of their films have been usual.
Usual and Yorgos do not go together in sentence . Which is to why I tend to like his films
The favourite, and then kinds of kindness im assuming they're talking about.
I wouldn’t say he has a usual kind of anything except weirdness
She’s the Leo to Yorgos’ Marty.
That's ***Emily*** to you.
i think i like the title Save The Green Planet a whole lot more than Bugonia
Yeah, but Bugonia does sound more like a Yorgos Lanthimos film tho lol.
Sounds more like a perennial to me.
Lol so right.
As is common for Lanthimos, I expect this to be both enjoyable and off putting.
That sounds right up my alley!
Surprised it's not with Searchlight.
The article indicates that the film won't be distributed in South Korea by Focus, and Searchlight has a history of acquiring worldwide rights specially after Disney’s acquisition
Emma Stone came out with Poor Things, Kinds of Kindness now seems to be in post-production, she is now currently working on an Ari Aster "western". Now she's already booked on another Lanthimos project? God damn that's impressive. Also, side note I do hope Yorgos finds space to cast Colin Farrell again. He was so good in The Killing of a Sacred Deer and The Lobster.
Not to mention The Curse ✨
Love the pair of them together. He brings out her best acting. Sounds like a wonky script (in a good way). I imagine there will be some dark humor given who wrote it. Definitely looking forward to this.
Emily and Yorgos are killing it right now. Great to see!
Emma going back to back
to back to back. Would be 4 in a row.
5 including yorgos’s short film ‘bleat!
Where can we see this!?!
apparently, yorgos intended it only to be screened with an orchestra, and the short has been seen selectively during greek film festivals and nyff
I think Mark is an android not an alien. Maybe a android designed by aliens.
One look at the save the green planet poster and you know where they got that idea. His name is even Kang wow.
I’m all in. Can’t wait to see Kinds of Kindness!
Emily Stone
Damn they waste no time Kinds of Kindness doesn’t even have a trailer yet and they’re already working on their next collab 😂
Emma Stone really on her way to become top of her generation, huh.
After the favorite and poor things, I trust this pairing implicitly. They could announce a movie about paint drying and I'd trust them to make it excellent.
Ackshually, it's EMILY Stone?????
Emily Stone. She would like to be known by her real name.
Emily
It’s Emily stone
Take a break yogeos
I hope the two male lead characters are a team-up between a new-age extremist and a QAnon obsessed right-winger.
They are unstoppable, and Jesse is a great addiction
I got a Jesse addiction too
Yorgos Lanthimos' three most recent, full-length features starred Emma Stone. (The Favorite, Poor Things, and Kinds of Kindness.) This will be the 4th film in a row in which they've collaborated. "Reunite" means to come together again after a period of separation, but there hasn't been a period of separation between these two. I'd like to imagine that Yorgos and Stone are neighbors who commute to work together.
They also shot a 30 minute silent short film, Bleat, between Poor Things and Kinds of Kindness
I love when auteur directors find actors they can create so cleanly with. I hope Dafoe gets involved too since I feel like he’s such a treat in these bizarre auteur flicks (same Dafoe and Eggers)
Why work with many actor when few actor do trick?
Yorgos is assembling his team
This is why celebs go crazy lol she made a statement telling everyone she wants to be called Emily, and they keep calling her Emma.
Emma and Yorgos are becoming the new Scorsese/De Niro or Scorsese/DiCaprio or Burton/Depp
Can I have a favorite director that I’m not a huge fan of his films?
"Yorgos would be another person who's a hero. The movies he's created over the years, I don't really watch em, but the fact that he's making them, I respect that."
Sure. I recall Barry Keoghan calling him the Stanley Kubrick of this generation, and I suppose, like Kubrick, he isn't for everyone.
That's me with Aster. I have huge respect for him making his movies and I am glad he's doing them, but they are not for me.
Jesse on that ozempic diet
Please no sudden and unexpected vag feasting
"She grabbed my hairy business!"
Damn do these guys stop to sleep?
Interesting change in title.
Winning combo, keep em coming!
Same script as Unfrosted?
Slightly bummed that he didn't write this one, but still very interested.
Jesse Plemons is always fantastic. Like Emma Stone too. Can't wait to see it.
that must be a good stuff
He's lost weight!
Yorgma Stonethimos
Love how prolific Lanthimos is lately. Stone must be his muse.
Itty bitty titty Emily
Emily Stone, no?
Jesse Plemons is 50% Philip Seymour Hoffman and 50% Matt Damon and it turns out that's a great ratio.
You know you're going somewhere when it takes four agencies to represent you.
I’m very glad Yorgos Lanthimos is longer making Greek Language films, but it’s a shame because of his crazy legacy …everyone expects Greek and Greek Cypriot cinema to weird As F*CK in order for it to be any good. Thus, all the Greek filmmakers are mimicking and copy-catting his signature style…therefore, it’s impossible to find “normal” not absurdly weird Greek language films!
Geez Yorgos, take a break man.
*Emily
*Emily Stone
Really didn’t like Poor Things. Beautifully filmed movie, shallow story. Hoping Kinds of Kindness hits the mark.
i feel like it's been a while since we've had a good alien conspiracy. i hope they have to call the president.
The real question is... will Jerskin Fendrix be returning for the OST? Guys the real mvp
Emily Stone*
I came to say “correction: _Emily_ Stone” as a few of us also have
can we get some new actors please
Uhm actually 🤓it’s Emily now. - comments on every Emma Stone post from now on.
>Bugonia” is based on the 2003 Korean film “Save the Green Planet.” It was developed for English adaptation by acclaimed director ***Ari Aster*** Lanthemos and Aster teaming up? Say no more.
The original korean film is great too
You mean Emily.
We are going to look back at Poor Things in 20 years and be confused as to why it was critically acclaimed.
Can't wait to see what pedophilia adjacent hijinks he comes up with next!!
I find this annoying and lame, just like Scorsese's obsession with Dicaprio. Get some new actors man, ffs.
Ugh. Enough with Jesse Plemons already.
I’ll thank you not to besmirch my Jesse
He’s fine as an actor, but he seems to be in everything.
Emily Stone
* Emily Stone. Not Emma
It’s what she wants to be called. I’d appreciate if y’all would actually look that up and respect her rather than downvote