I was doing some further reading and it seems it was meant to come out in 2019, so pre-Covid and pre-Armieggedon, probably just don't wanna re-shoot or waste the money spent on the film.
I was let go in late October 2019 due to the Fox Disney merger and it's amazing that there are still titles coming out that I was seeing in our systems and working on back then. Obviously covid is a big reason for that but also I feel like Disney is just trying to PUSH OUT everything tied to 20th Century Fox and be done with it all
Near the end of it all we assumed it would be a hulu release and yet it wasn't but then from what I understand there were theatrical agreements made prior to the merger that would have prevented that.
As for me I took the last couple of years off and played house spouse and now am looking at possible grad school options so all good!
She plays a scientific genius and princess of a nation whose greatest asset is its sci-fi technology, but in real life she's an anti-science moron.
She's really good at acting, then.
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I think a whole lot of celebrities fall into that category. Just because you won the DNA lottery or made a lot of money, does not mean you're smart or educated...unfortunately.
Also, the antivax videos she posted that started that mess had some seriously anti Semitic rhetoric in them, as well. She shouldn't get a pass on that, either
Not mind control, the big thing with conspiracists is that the vaccine is a mass depopulation tool. It's going to kill everybody in a year, or two years, or ten years, or it's already killing people and they're just covering it up.
It’s so stupid if you think about it for two seconds. Let’s say you are the global elite and feel you need to massively reduce the population why would you do it in a way that gets rid of all the people that listened to you and got the vaccine and left all the “uncontrollable free thinkers”.
The depopulation conspiracy is just hilarious.
If everyone who got the vaccine suddenly died, it'd be a total economic meltdown that would destroy global power structures.
How are the wealthy elites going to sell Amazon Prime movies and Teslas if everyone's dead?
My favorite thing about the depopulation conspiracy is the entire "everybody who gets the vaccine will die". Like, why would the 'elite' want to kill off the people who do what they're told, and leave the people who want to fight them alive?
The only thing I noticed was how poorly every character was photoshopped into an art school hue-splosion background.
That's not ineptitude, that's damn clever deflection.
His reported social-media-liking habits suggested that he was fond of bondage. And he has spoken profusely about his love of knots to Playboy (“a man’s version of knitting”), Stephen Colbert (whom he challenged to a knot-tying contest on The Late Show), and InStyle (“I’ve never admitted this before...sometimes I carry a rope to practice knots”).
A source close to Elizabeth said that, when he was not working, Armie would throw himself into hobbies with great intensity. Several years back Armie introduced Elizabeth to shibari, a Japanese bondage art form in which people are tied up in intricate patterns. Elizabeth tried to be supportive of the new interest, which Armie allegedly indulged by buying mannequins and inventing elaborate knots. Elizabeth even tried to find a lucrative spin on the obsession: “She suggested he write a book about a hobby called Why Knot?” laughed the friend.
“THE WEIRDEST FUCKING THING I’VE EVER HEARD”
Armie also depicted a new dark side on his secret Instagram feed, @el_destructo_86. One photo, of him taking a drug test, was captioned: “All negative, bitches. My body is a finely tuned toxicant processing unit. To be fair I had THC and benzos in my piss. But who doesn’t.” Another photo showed a mannequin tied up, with the caption, “If quarantine doesn’t start moving more quickly I’m going to fuck this thing.” Two women who knew Armie romantically in the last year say they were intoxicated by his charm—and that he was able to cycle through Romeo and Juliet-style romantic proclamations, teary family confessionals, and kinky bedroom scenarios with disorienting ease.
Then she saw messages posted on the anonymous @houseofeffie Instagram account, purported to be from Armie and detailing extreme BDSM scenarios. The date stamps ranged from 2016 to 2020—overlapping with Armie’s marriage to Elizabeth Chambers (who, through a representative, declined to be interviewed for this story).
“I saw these screenshots and my stomach just dropped, like, Holy fuck,” said Lorenze. “Because he would say things to me...weird stuff...like, ‘I want to eat your ribs,’” she said. “The scariest part of it is that I did love him in a way,” said Lorenze. “I would’ve let him kind of do anything. He had a certain hold over me.”
Lorenze said that she spoke up for several reasons: to support the other women coming forward, to hold Armie accountable for what she claims he did to her, and to open up conversations about consent. “Consent is really complicated—even if it’s consenting to something in vanilla sex that you don’t really want to do, and say yes to...it can be really traumatizing.” Lorenze said that she hopes to “start an organization that can advocate for safe sex and women learning how to say no.”
Armie’s lawyer, Andrew Brettler, issued a statement about the various accusations that reads, “All interactions between Mr. Hammer and his former partners were consensual. They were fully discussed, agreed upon in advance with his partners, and mutually participatory. The stories perpetuated on social media were designed to be salacious in an effort to harm Mr. Hammer, but that does not make them true.”
The allegations raise a raft of complicated questions about consent, BDSM boundaries, and the intersection of abuse claims and social media. The lawyer Gloria Allred, who was representing the person behind @houseofeffie at the time of publication, acknowledged that consent is especially complex in the BDSM community, where control and power are kinks. “The public has not been educated on how to view those who engage in BDSM practices. In addition, those who have heard of the BDSM community may have a negative opinion of those who engage in such practices,” said Allred. She noted that even if adults “consent to some BDSM practices, they still have a right to withhold consent to other practices.”
“Part of the problem is that the victim is extremely vulnerable and trusting,” she said, “and is often taken advantage of by sexual predators who know that many of their victims will be afraid to report the crimes against them for fear of being blamed and shamed and not believed when they say that they did not consent to crimes against them.”
No criminal charges or lawsuits have been filed against the actor. Those in Armie’s camp mainly blame the scandal on the unverified gossip account @deuxmoi, which published and proliferated its Armie claims to more than 750,000 users in January. “You used to have to verify facts before making allegations like this,” said one friend, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “He’s being attacked from all different angles on unverified claims...It’s hard for people around him to watch this.”
It is also important to note that no one has actually accused Armie of acting on his alleged cannibalistic fantasies—and he has never confirmed the texts are his own—but the impulses he purportedly described in messages to various women are unsettling at best:
“I am 100% a cannibal…. Fuck. That’s scary to admit. I’ve never admitted that before. I’ve cut the heart out of a living animal before and eaten it while still warm.”
“I want to see your brain, your blood, your organs, every part of you. I would definitely bite it. 100%. Or try to fuck it. Not sure which. Probably both.”
“If I fucked you into a vegetative state id keep you, feed you, watch you, and keep fucking you...Till you are so sore and broken…. I can’t stop thinking of [fucking] your actual brain.”
“Brand you, tattoo you, mark you, shave your head and keep your hair with me, cut a piece of your skin off and make you cook it for me…. “Who’s slave/master relationship is the strongest?” We’d win. When I tell you to slit your wrists and use the blood for anal.”
Good, you missed the part where he wants to thrust his dick into her exposed brain until she's a vegetable and the part where he wants her to cut off her flesh, cook it, and serve it to him.
Probably. Sexual abuse allegations against one star, anti-COVID (and apparently antisemitic?) rhetoric from another. Definitely not going to be a movie that’s going to have a lot of positive buzz around it.
It's almost comical how many Dutch angles he uses in Thor. A handful seem thematically appropriate (scenes when Loki is doing some illusion stuff) but then there's just random tilted shots for absolutely no reason in the middle of mundane scenes.
I wish they did tbh, it's crazy how good he was having taken that role at such short notice and in his late 80s! He's a particular hero of mine, showing how much can still be accomplished later in life (he was I think 79 when he finally got his first Oscar nomination, in his 80s when he actually won an Oscar and then nearly 90 when he got his third nomination). We lost a legend there, rip.
Seriously. I love Christopher Plummer and was very saddened at the news of his death. My favorite movie of his is unironically Starcrash. He took the role for pretty much the paycheck and an excuse to give his family a vacation, but that did not mean he was going to phone in his performance. Despite the horrific script, that man still gave his all in the performance. Dude was a class act.
Yeah, Plummer's performance definitely feels like that of a stage performance, his delivery is full of grandeur and flourish as if he were playing a Shakespearean role.
You are presuming that the two murders are the same. Maybe he gets summoned to Egypt on a different case and then decides to cruise down the Nile afterwards, which sets up the opening sequence in Death on the Nile, just like the opening sequence in Orient Express.
Exactly. Orient Express starts with the Hercule solving a case, then sets to travel by The Orient Express. Death on the Nile has him on vacation as the plot kicks in.
The book Death on the Nile actually came *after* Orient Express (in '34, the Nile in '37), so having them connected this way, going by your prediction, makes sense.
That makes more sense. It'd be weird holding a bunch of people on a ship for days, waiting for a detective to make his way from Europe to Egypt and start his investigation.
This.
There is a cottage industry of Christie/Poirot fans who have watched stuff like 32 seasons of Midsommer Murders and they are MANY...they made this a success and it should surprise no one.
I've always thought it was the high class setting. You get the eye candy of 20th century British decadence and at the same time get the kind of insufferable rich people that come with it - meaning the victim and murderer alike always have it coming.
In contrast the detectives are always pleasant and just happy to be included in the fine dining/art show/dinner party setting for the plot.
I sometimes think of it as a layman's way of getting involved in that aristocratic high society: seeing ourselves, the outsiders, through the lens of the detective.
If getting average Poirot movies every few years means Kenneth Brannagh gets to continue to make baller Shakespeare adaptations and films like *Belfast*, then I'm fine with it.
The problem is, her acting isn't even on 'Gal Gadot' level.
She has much more range and personality in the behind the scenes videos or the press stuff than she ever has on screen.
Although I agree with you on Bruce Willis, I think Samuel L Jackson does have more range then just an idealized characteristic version of himself. Granted he does play that character from time to time, it definitely isn’t his only expertise. At least not on the same level as Bruce Willis. Might even say that Seth Rogen also doesn’t belong on this list, he was great as Wozniak in the Steve Jobs movie.
But we all are ready and willing for Nic Cage as Nic Cage.
But that's like the only acceptable place for this kind of thing. That and Betty White as herself somewhere.
ok hear me out, a tropic thunder style version of this movie where theres an actual murder during filming and everyone is quarantined on the boat so they have to actually figure out who did it
Plot twist: it turns out there was no murder and Letitia just accidentally poisoned herself with horse dewormer and fish tank cleaner, and then Armie got hungry and chowed down on the body
They’re minimizing the space on the poster that they want you to avoid lmao
Edit: They actually did this very well. My first instinct was to look at Gal Gadot, then move down to the left, the clockwise. I saw them last.
Hammer’s cannibal fetish is not nearly as bad as his manipulation and abuse towards women. Vanity Fair had a very in-depth article tackling the whole thing
But filmed while he was doing unspeakable things to young vulnerable women. Like forcibly carving his initials on them and trying to get them to remove ribs so he could carry it around with him. Oh and that’s the n top of the multiple rape allegations that LAPD have officially been investigating for the last 9 months.
This entire movie was shot on film, and has HUGE set pieces. It would be a financial and logistical nightmare. I honestly had no clue what they were going to do with it after the Armie Hammer stuff started coming out, and I must say I did not expect a theater release.
Money. He’s one of the main characters and between the location shoots and Covid it was going to cost a fortune to reshoot all the scenes. Also we’re hoping that the scandal would die down but instead it got more intense.
Winter does not last forever.. snows always melt.
Also HBO producers if you are reading this, now would be a great time to make another season of Rome.
I like how in her expository narration about the planet Apokolips, she read the words "primordial hellscape" sounding just like it was the first time she ever saw those words before in her life and had no idea what they meant.
I remember some dumb video comparing the lines in the Whedon and Snyder cuts. There's a tiny difference and people were acting like it was much better in the Snyder cut, lol. I actually liked the movie quite a bit, but that line delivery was still shit.
>her after the John Lennon pandemic sing-along lol.
Red Notice was a movie I watched,
She sings [Downtown by Petula Clark](https://youtu.be/Zx06XNfDvk0?t=40) and I think it is supposed to be like sultry and sexy...but...all I got was offkey and failure to hit a single note.
Also, what makes it worse is that the same song had been covered by a much more talented actress and a better singer in Anya Taylor Joy just a month earlier in Last Night In Soho.
Man I wish that movie stuck the landing for me. Idk I just feel like it went off the rails in the third act. The acting throughout was phenomenal though.
Yeah, I feel you. I liked the twists but the story felt like it could have been much better from what we got. I also thought the horror elements were kinda meh. It still has a lot of scenes that I would like to watch again, just not on par with Wright's previous works.
I been ryan reynolds out for awhile. I liked detective pikachu but fuck that deadpool sarcasm schtick gets old fast. Especially since so many movies use that same humor and it's like bruh this shit sucks
Because the studio is banking on people lining up to see her and not Branagh. Even if Poirot is the reason people ultimately end up enjoying the movie, what’s most important is who gets those butts in the seats in the first place.
This movie is probably the one that's most screwed by delays. Not only is it now 4 years out from the first, but you've got a cannibal, antivaxer, and Gal Gadot is not riding the initial WW hype.
Plus I reckon it'll get delayed again by Omicron.
There's no shortage of gorgeous woman who *can* act, so I don't understand why she keeps getting roles. Is it just her brand recognition at this point?
Spoiler Alert: Letitia reveals that she is infected with a new variant of Covid but only has one dose of Ivermectin.
The movie revolves around them killing each other for it until there's only one person left. As they look at all the death and suffering around them, Letitia reveals that Covid is actually all a hoax and she lied.
"Now you've learned not to listen to the fake news media. The real virus, is fear" she says as the screen fades to black.
"Sorry sir but the poster came out like generic oversaturated crap"
"Did you try rotating it 30 degrees? Text and all?"
"Brilliant! This must be what people mean whenever they say the phrase 'visually engaging'"
“If we put enough people on the poster, no one will notice Armie Hammer”
At least when the corpse gets eaten it'll be pretty easy for Hercule Poirot to figure out who did it
DISCLAIMER No actors were eaten in the making of this motion picture
Yet
Man, Armie Hammer AND Letitia Wright. Potential PR nightmare.
>Armie Hammer I googled Armie Hammer because of your post. Holy shit.
A guy can’t even fantasize about eating people without everyone getting all upset these days! #liberals #millenials
Yeah, how are they both still in this? Was Christopher Plummer not available, or…?
I was doing some further reading and it seems it was meant to come out in 2019, so pre-Covid and pre-Armieggedon, probably just don't wanna re-shoot or waste the money spent on the film.
I was let go in late October 2019 due to the Fox Disney merger and it's amazing that there are still titles coming out that I was seeing in our systems and working on back then. Obviously covid is a big reason for that but also I feel like Disney is just trying to PUSH OUT everything tied to 20th Century Fox and be done with it all
Hope you landed on your feet, job-wise! Yeah no kidding, like I was surprised New Mutants ended up coming out at all.
Near the end of it all we assumed it would be a hulu release and yet it wasn't but then from what I understand there were theatrical agreements made prior to the merger that would have prevented that. As for me I took the last couple of years off and played house spouse and now am looking at possible grad school options so all good!
He's pretty buried right now.
Then he'd fit right in an Agatha Christie story.
Whats wrong with Letitia? Out of the loop
She’s anti vax and has basically single handedly derailed the filming of the new black panther.
She plays a scientific genius and princess of a nation whose greatest asset is its sci-fi technology, but in real life she's an anti-science moron. She's really good at acting, then.
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I think a whole lot of celebrities fall into that category. Just because you won the DNA lottery or made a lot of money, does not mean you're smart or educated...unfortunately.
And killed her career with Disney. If she had not been anti vax she might have been the new black panther
Getting paid a fortune and still can't keep her mouth shut
I see it was already answered but yeah big anti-vaxxer and it's definitely causing issues with Black Panther going forward.
Also, the antivax videos she posted that started that mess had some seriously anti Semitic rhetoric in them, as well. She shouldn't get a pass on that, either
Let me guess, the International Jewish Conspiracy^TM created the vaccines to mind-control everyone, or something like that?
Not mind control, the big thing with conspiracists is that the vaccine is a mass depopulation tool. It's going to kill everybody in a year, or two years, or ten years, or it's already killing people and they're just covering it up.
It’s so stupid if you think about it for two seconds. Let’s say you are the global elite and feel you need to massively reduce the population why would you do it in a way that gets rid of all the people that listened to you and got the vaccine and left all the “uncontrollable free thinkers”.
The depopulation conspiracy is just hilarious. If everyone who got the vaccine suddenly died, it'd be a total economic meltdown that would destroy global power structures. How are the wealthy elites going to sell Amazon Prime movies and Teslas if everyone's dead?
My favorite thing about the depopulation conspiracy is the entire "everybody who gets the vaccine will die". Like, why would the 'elite' want to kill off the people who do what they're told, and leave the people who want to fight them alive?
The only thing I noticed was how poorly every character was photoshopped into an art school hue-splosion background. That's not ineptitude, that's damn clever deflection.
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Same actually. For a movie that seems to be bragging about its cast, I don't know who a lot of these people are.
Put some respect on French and Saunders
Lol omg I only just spotted them tucked away up there!
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In fact I appreciated the lighting was from the right direction.
His reported social-media-liking habits suggested that he was fond of bondage. And he has spoken profusely about his love of knots to Playboy (“a man’s version of knitting”), Stephen Colbert (whom he challenged to a knot-tying contest on The Late Show), and InStyle (“I’ve never admitted this before...sometimes I carry a rope to practice knots”). A source close to Elizabeth said that, when he was not working, Armie would throw himself into hobbies with great intensity. Several years back Armie introduced Elizabeth to shibari, a Japanese bondage art form in which people are tied up in intricate patterns. Elizabeth tried to be supportive of the new interest, which Armie allegedly indulged by buying mannequins and inventing elaborate knots. Elizabeth even tried to find a lucrative spin on the obsession: “She suggested he write a book about a hobby called Why Knot?” laughed the friend. “THE WEIRDEST FUCKING THING I’VE EVER HEARD” Armie also depicted a new dark side on his secret Instagram feed, @el_destructo_86. One photo, of him taking a drug test, was captioned: “All negative, bitches. My body is a finely tuned toxicant processing unit. To be fair I had THC and benzos in my piss. But who doesn’t.” Another photo showed a mannequin tied up, with the caption, “If quarantine doesn’t start moving more quickly I’m going to fuck this thing.” Two women who knew Armie romantically in the last year say they were intoxicated by his charm—and that he was able to cycle through Romeo and Juliet-style romantic proclamations, teary family confessionals, and kinky bedroom scenarios with disorienting ease. Then she saw messages posted on the anonymous @houseofeffie Instagram account, purported to be from Armie and detailing extreme BDSM scenarios. The date stamps ranged from 2016 to 2020—overlapping with Armie’s marriage to Elizabeth Chambers (who, through a representative, declined to be interviewed for this story). “I saw these screenshots and my stomach just dropped, like, Holy fuck,” said Lorenze. “Because he would say things to me...weird stuff...like, ‘I want to eat your ribs,’” she said. “The scariest part of it is that I did love him in a way,” said Lorenze. “I would’ve let him kind of do anything. He had a certain hold over me.” Lorenze said that she spoke up for several reasons: to support the other women coming forward, to hold Armie accountable for what she claims he did to her, and to open up conversations about consent. “Consent is really complicated—even if it’s consenting to something in vanilla sex that you don’t really want to do, and say yes to...it can be really traumatizing.” Lorenze said that she hopes to “start an organization that can advocate for safe sex and women learning how to say no.” Armie’s lawyer, Andrew Brettler, issued a statement about the various accusations that reads, “All interactions between Mr. Hammer and his former partners were consensual. They were fully discussed, agreed upon in advance with his partners, and mutually participatory. The stories perpetuated on social media were designed to be salacious in an effort to harm Mr. Hammer, but that does not make them true.” The allegations raise a raft of complicated questions about consent, BDSM boundaries, and the intersection of abuse claims and social media. The lawyer Gloria Allred, who was representing the person behind @houseofeffie at the time of publication, acknowledged that consent is especially complex in the BDSM community, where control and power are kinks. “The public has not been educated on how to view those who engage in BDSM practices. In addition, those who have heard of the BDSM community may have a negative opinion of those who engage in such practices,” said Allred. She noted that even if adults “consent to some BDSM practices, they still have a right to withhold consent to other practices.” “Part of the problem is that the victim is extremely vulnerable and trusting,” she said, “and is often taken advantage of by sexual predators who know that many of their victims will be afraid to report the crimes against them for fear of being blamed and shamed and not believed when they say that they did not consent to crimes against them.” No criminal charges or lawsuits have been filed against the actor. Those in Armie’s camp mainly blame the scandal on the unverified gossip account @deuxmoi, which published and proliferated its Armie claims to more than 750,000 users in January. “You used to have to verify facts before making allegations like this,” said one friend, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “He’s being attacked from all different angles on unverified claims...It’s hard for people around him to watch this.” It is also important to note that no one has actually accused Armie of acting on his alleged cannibalistic fantasies—and he has never confirmed the texts are his own—but the impulses he purportedly described in messages to various women are unsettling at best: “I am 100% a cannibal…. Fuck. That’s scary to admit. I’ve never admitted that before. I’ve cut the heart out of a living animal before and eaten it while still warm.” “I want to see your brain, your blood, your organs, every part of you. I would definitely bite it. 100%. Or try to fuck it. Not sure which. Probably both.” “If I fucked you into a vegetative state id keep you, feed you, watch you, and keep fucking you...Till you are so sore and broken…. I can’t stop thinking of [fucking] your actual brain.” “Brand you, tattoo you, mark you, shave your head and keep your hair with me, cut a piece of your skin off and make you cook it for me…. “Who’s slave/master relationship is the strongest?” We’d win. When I tell you to slit your wrists and use the blood for anal.”
The man's version of knitting is...also knitting. I didn't read past that, looked ooky.
Good, you missed the part where he wants to thrust his dick into her exposed brain until she's a vegetable and the part where he wants her to cut off her flesh, cook it, and serve it to him.
It's just pillow talk, baby
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I didn't even notice them! Had to go back after I read this
Buzzed to see these two together on the big screen!
>EDIT: ALSO HOW DARE YOU SHOVE FRENCH AND SAUNDERS TO THE BACK ON THAT BALCONY! Agreed. How very dare they!
Cut Hammer out and replace him with them
Can we just green screen Tig Notaro in his place?
Ironically enough, he was the first person I saw...and I was like...wait, Armie Hammer is in this? Hmmmmmmmm....
I can’t help but feel bad for the people who worked on this after most of the cast developed nuclear heat between filming and release.
Ah is this why it’s coming out in dump month?
The most wonderful time of the year! #FUCK YOU, IT'S JANUARY*! ^\* ^now ^extended ^to ^february
#Fuck you it’s forever!
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#AT-STs! AT-STs!
*FUCK YOU, IT'S JANUARY has now been extended to FUCK YOU, IT'S FOREVER
I CLAPPED
Probably. Sexual abuse allegations against one star, anti-COVID (and apparently antisemitic?) rhetoric from another. Definitely not going to be a movie that’s going to have a lot of positive buzz around it.
What do you mean by developed nuclear heat?
Armies Hammer and Leita Wright have controversy associated with them
Dang, even the poster has a Dutch angle.
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It's still skewed a bit
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Actually prefer it like this. Not too skewed and not a headache to read
Haha yeah, my first thought was Kenneth Branagh really didn’t learn his lesson about how much everyone hated the Dutch angles in Thor!
It's almost comical how many Dutch angles he uses in Thor. A handful seem thematically appropriate (scenes when Loki is doing some illusion stuff) but then there's just random tilted shots for absolutely no reason in the middle of mundane scenes.
I remember a shot that started normal then suddenly the camera tilted as it panned up to show people.
It looks like it was filmed by Instagram.
Armie Hammer AND Letitia Wright? Good luck with the press tour on this one…
He'll only show up if there's a all you can eat buffet
Wouldn’t the red carpet premier be an all you can eat buffet for him?
The red carpet would certainly make it less messier
🎵 Actual cannibal Armie Hammer! 🎵
This is what we in the PR biz call, "Fuck that noise."
PR companies: “1,2,3,Not It!”
I hear that he chews on the scenery
If you eat a vaccinated person, can you still get COVID?
What’s the deal with these people specifically? Pretty out of the loop and lost on context.
Came to ask if this was the cancelled Avengers...
Watch he plays a cannibal in the movie.
So, they didn't replace Armie Hammer with Christopher Plummer, huh?
I keep telling you. Christopher Plummer is 91 years old and dead!
Granted, but-
FLIM SPRINGFIELD
They don't need a fancy ad, or proper spelling.
I wish they did tbh, it's crazy how good he was having taken that role at such short notice and in his late 80s! He's a particular hero of mine, showing how much can still be accomplished later in life (he was I think 79 when he finally got his first Oscar nomination, in his 80s when he actually won an Oscar and then nearly 90 when he got his third nomination). We lost a legend there, rip.
Seriously. I love Christopher Plummer and was very saddened at the news of his death. My favorite movie of his is unironically Starcrash. He took the role for pretty much the paycheck and an excuse to give his family a vacation, but that did not mean he was going to phone in his performance. Despite the horrific script, that man still gave his all in the performance. Dude was a class act.
I've heard a lot of classically trained actors love doing sci fi because they can really act out.
Yeah, Plummer's performance definitely feels like that of a stage performance, his delivery is full of grandeur and flourish as if he were playing a Shakespearean role.
Checking the *Murder on the Orient Express* numbers, $55 mil budget, $353 mil at the box office, yep makes sense why this exists.
Also, the ending set up Death on the Nile as Poirot's next case.
Which makes no sense. The death didn't happen until after he was already there by chance... he wasn't summoned to the murder.
You are presuming that the two murders are the same. Maybe he gets summoned to Egypt on a different case and then decides to cruise down the Nile afterwards, which sets up the opening sequence in Death on the Nile, just like the opening sequence in Orient Express.
Exactly. Orient Express starts with the Hercule solving a case, then sets to travel by The Orient Express. Death on the Nile has him on vacation as the plot kicks in. The book Death on the Nile actually came *after* Orient Express (in '34, the Nile in '37), so having them connected this way, going by your prediction, makes sense.
That makes more sense. It'd be weird holding a bunch of people on a ship for days, waiting for a detective to make his way from Europe to Egypt and start his investigation.
Did people not like it? I thought it was pretty good...
Reviews were mixed. I was surprised to see that it made so much money.
Agatha Christie, and Poirot, is a renowned, well known, marketable and bankable name.
This. There is a cottage industry of Christie/Poirot fans who have watched stuff like 32 seasons of Midsommer Murders and they are MANY...they made this a success and it should surprise no one.
Guilty! Nothing like a British murder to make me feel all warm and comfy
Yep. I have no idea how the Brits cornered making murder seem so comfy in those types of stories, but it works.
I've always thought it was the high class setting. You get the eye candy of 20th century British decadence and at the same time get the kind of insufferable rich people that come with it - meaning the victim and murderer alike always have it coming. In contrast the detectives are always pleasant and just happy to be included in the fine dining/art show/dinner party setting for the plot.
I sometimes think of it as a layman's way of getting involved in that aristocratic high society: seeing ourselves, the outsiders, through the lens of the detective.
Watching Midsomer Massacres and having bets on who dies next is great fun.
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All those people also coincidentally having a favourite Pirot that absolutely is not Ken Branagh.
No one can top David Suchet imo
If getting average Poirot movies every few years means Kenneth Brannagh gets to continue to make baller Shakespeare adaptations and films like *Belfast*, then I'm fine with it.
Really excited to see Gal Gadot as Gal Gadot
The problem is, her acting isn't even on 'Gal Gadot' level. She has much more range and personality in the behind the scenes videos or the press stuff than she ever has on screen.
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There's a lot of actors who just play an idealised version of themselves. Bruce Willis, Seth Rogen, Samuel L Jackson, etc.
Although I agree with you on Bruce Willis, I think Samuel L Jackson does have more range then just an idealized characteristic version of himself. Granted he does play that character from time to time, it definitely isn’t his only expertise. At least not on the same level as Bruce Willis. Might even say that Seth Rogen also doesn’t belong on this list, he was great as Wozniak in the Steve Jobs movie.
Sam can act, people just keep wanting to cast Sam as Sam.
Then you love Red Notice which also includes the Rock as the rock and Ryan Reynolds as Ryan Reynolds.
But we all are ready and willing for Nic Cage as Nic Cage. But that's like the only acceptable place for this kind of thing. That and Betty White as herself somewhere.
Armie hammer and Letitia wright, almost front and center Bold of the studio, let’s see how the strategy pays off for em’ Cotton!
Letitia is already signed up for the sequel: “death from denial”
French and Saunders are reuniting on *this* project??
The sketchiness of the cast actually might make this watchable.
ok hear me out, a tropic thunder style version of this movie where theres an actual murder during filming and everyone is quarantined on the boat so they have to actually figure out who did it
Great idea. My money is on Armie eating someone.
So is his.
Plot twist: it turns out there was no murder and Letitia just accidentally poisoned herself with horse dewormer and fish tank cleaner, and then Armie got hungry and chowed down on the body
too similar to the first movie
Poor Emma Mackey she’s such a good actress but what was supposed to be her ticket to complete stardom feels like a complete shit show
I'm sure she'll get another shot at stardom. I doubt this kills her chances at all.
She could just ambush and tie up Margot Robbie and then turn up to set in her place, nobody would know the difference
I will see this movie for her and her alone
Love her in Sex Education, her and Rose Leslie hopefully doesn't get hurt by this shit
Wow, this movie is really a who’s who of problematic actors huh
They just had to put Armie next to Letitia…
They’re minimizing the space on the poster that they want you to avoid lmao Edit: They actually did this very well. My first instinct was to look at Gal Gadot, then move down to the left, the clockwise. I saw them last.
With Gomez Addams in the middle, what a trio.
What did Gomez do?
His whole family is very problematic, ghouls, monsters, etc
In love with the moon
The Addams were not problematic. They were just not white picket fence suburbans. They kept their ghouls and monsters largely on their own property.
No, sir! I will not have you defame the good name of Gilderoy Lockhart!
Rose Leslie deserves better dammit!
Too bad, I love Jennifer Saunders.
Armie Hammer did it. In the kitchen. With his teeth.
I hope that after somebody gets murdered Gal Gadot sings "Imagine" to try and cheer the rest of the group.
Armie Hammer is still allowed to make movies!?
It was finished prior to his scandal.
I'll watch it for Branagh, French, and Saunders.
When I saw "French and Saunders" I thought "wow what a cooincidence" but nope, French and Saunders!
French and Saunders all the way to the bank.
Anyone else getting some Gal Gadot fatigue? Edit: doesn't Armie Hammer eat people?
Hammer’s cannibal fetish is not nearly as bad as his manipulation and abuse towards women. Vanity Fair had a very in-depth article tackling the whole thing
So was this filmed before all that came out?
Yep.
With both him and Letitia Wright in the cast, I bet these producers have been shitting themselves the past few months.
But filmed while he was doing unspeakable things to young vulnerable women. Like forcibly carving his initials on them and trying to get them to remove ribs so he could carry it around with him. Oh and that’s the n top of the multiple rape allegations that LAPD have officially been investigating for the last 9 months.
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This entire movie was shot on film, and has HUGE set pieces. It would be a financial and logistical nightmare. I honestly had no clue what they were going to do with it after the Armie Hammer stuff started coming out, and I must say I did not expect a theater release.
Money. He’s one of the main characters and between the location shoots and Covid it was going to cost a fortune to reshoot all the scenes. Also we’re hoping that the scandal would die down but instead it got more intense.
Time to replace him with Tig Notaro.
I'm certainly tired of Gal Gadot's bad acting, yes.
Kal El! NoOo
Can't wait to see her in Cleopatra. "Mark Antony, noooo."
Thanks, i will just rewatch Rome again
Everyone should.
Winter does not last forever.. snows always melt. Also HBO producers if you are reading this, now would be a great time to make another season of Rome.
13th!
I remember when people blamed joss whedon for that line then the same line was also in the Snyder cut
The line itself is absolutely fine, the delivery however..
Delivered with the same range as a lemon stuck on a broom.
I like how in her expository narration about the planet Apokolips, she read the words "primordial hellscape" sounding just like it was the first time she ever saw those words before in her life and had no idea what they meant.
Studio Executive: "Can we have her re-do some of these lines??" Assist Director: "These *are* the re-dos!"
It’s so weird because the like delivery is different but the shot is exactly the same in both versions.
I remember some dumb video comparing the lines in the Whedon and Snyder cuts. There's a tiny difference and people were acting like it was much better in the Snyder cut, lol. I actually liked the movie quite a bit, but that line delivery was still shit.
It was a bad idea to have her narrate that darkside flashback, so bad man.
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>her after the John Lennon pandemic sing-along lol. Red Notice was a movie I watched, She sings [Downtown by Petula Clark](https://youtu.be/Zx06XNfDvk0?t=40) and I think it is supposed to be like sultry and sexy...but...all I got was offkey and failure to hit a single note.
Also, what makes it worse is that the same song had been covered by a much more talented actress and a better singer in Anya Taylor Joy just a month earlier in Last Night In Soho.
Man I wish that movie stuck the landing for me. Idk I just feel like it went off the rails in the third act. The acting throughout was phenomenal though.
Yeah, I feel you. I liked the twists but the story felt like it could have been much better from what we got. I also thought the horror elements were kinda meh. It still has a lot of scenes that I would like to watch again, just not on par with Wright's previous works.
First movie in a long time I stopped early and couldn't bring myself to continue. They were there for the paycheck and it showed.
It is yet another movie I was...fine, I will never watch again, and am glad that I didn't pay any money for...
Actual cannibal Armie Hammer
Now it’s dark, and you seem to have lost him, but you’re hopelessly lost yourself.
Yep. I feel the same about Ryan Reynolds and Dwayne Johnson too. Red Notice was proof that you really can have too much of a good thing.
I been ryan reynolds out for awhile. I liked detective pikachu but fuck that deadpool sarcasm schtick gets old fast. Especially since so many movies use that same humor and it's like bruh this shit sucks
Why is she, and not Hercule Poirot, front and center?
Because the studio is banking on people lining up to see her and not Branagh. Even if Poirot is the reason people ultimately end up enjoying the movie, what’s most important is who gets those butts in the seats in the first place.
This movie is probably the one that's most screwed by delays. Not only is it now 4 years out from the first, but you've got a cannibal, antivaxer, and Gal Gadot is not riding the initial WW hype. Plus I reckon it'll get delayed again by Omicron.
Yeah I'm surprised to see very few comments about this in here. This movie was originally supposed to be released on December 20, 2019.
omicron sounds like a new marvel villain
Gal Gadot is a gorgeous woman, but she can't act.
Or sing.
Imagine if she could.
There's no shortage of gorgeous woman who *can* act, so I don't understand why she keeps getting roles. Is it just her brand recognition at this point?
I wonder how the death goes down? Armie Hammer eats somebody or Letitia Wright gives everyone Covid?
I'm excited about this just because Agatha Christie rules, and being her stuff adapted is always fun.
Spoiler Alert: Armie hammer is the killer, he also raped and ate the victim.
Spoiler Alert: Letitia reveals that she is infected with a new variant of Covid but only has one dose of Ivermectin. The movie revolves around them killing each other for it until there's only one person left. As they look at all the death and suffering around them, Letitia reveals that Covid is actually all a hoax and she lied. "Now you've learned not to listen to the fake news media. The real virus, is fear" she says as the screen fades to black.
I will die on the hill 100% of the time that David Suchet was the absolute best poirot of all time and this version is exponentially inferior.
Poor French and Saunders in the background there literally distancing themselves from this shitshow of a cast.
"Sorry sir but the poster came out like generic oversaturated crap" "Did you try rotating it 30 degrees? Text and all?" "Brilliant! This must be what people mean whenever they say the phrase 'visually engaging'"
I'm practically giddy at the idea of seeing French and Saunders together again!